Elizabeth and all. I don't know who Betty J. Masley and Carley Gioe are, but perhaps they would be a resource? "Compiled from the Records of the KY State Historical Society by Joan Colbert Gioe, revised in 1996 by Betty J. Masley and Carley Gioe. Researchers Publications, PO Box 39063 Indianapolis, IN 46239." It looks as though, from a cursory websearch, that Joan produced many, many, pamphlets from several states and counties, and on. . and on . . Seems this discussion has occurred before, but has anyone gone to the husband (is that Carley? If so, there is a son, Mario) and asked for her "notes"? My bet is there are boxes and boxes. Pat (in Tucson) -----Original Message----- From: kygarrar-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kygarrar-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of E Kaspar Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:40 AM To: M. A. Farrell; kygarrar@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYGARRAR] RE Garrard Co County DATA THANKS anyway! Gioe put out (self published) about 132 booklets of KY. stats from every county....ALL without any sources! Her husband is still advertising them in major genealogy magazines! KY. genealogical librarians are quite familiar with her work, and most libraries won't buy them because they lack any sources. She would have to have found zillions of family Bibles in order to glean all of the material she has put out. Her husband insists that she worked primarily in Frankfort, but I have met with all of the experts there. Elizabeth M. A. Farrell wrote: > This didn't arrive with my post yesterday, and Gerald has made the subject clear: > > I have never heard of the woman or her booklets; I will say it sounds as if she got much of this info on birth and marriages from old bible records. The Frankfort connection is interesting. > > I find it nearly impossible to get an exact date of very early marriage unless it happened in a place where there was actually a minister or magistrate who recorded the marriage. As to exact birthdates - very hard to find. Some recorded documents (County Court Order Books) contain birthdates of children - binding them out, for instance, until exactly 21 years old. Other early documents I have seen containing chidren's exact birthdates and full names, are "Separation Agreements", where a couple have a legal agreement as to alimony, custody and support of children. These have been found in Will Books and Deed Books. I have seen emancipations of slaves with an exact date of birth - usually children. Generally speaking, this is very hard information to come by - except in family bibles.. > > Wish I could help, but can't. Mary Alice > > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYGARRAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message