Vicki, I have two James H. Perkins in my database and they are approximately the same age, born in 1872, but of course they have different parents. However, I do not have a spouse for either of them which would tell you which one it is that you are looking for. The James H. Perkins that you have the 1880 Census for was born in Franklin Co.,Ky. of parents, William Perkins and Margaret E. Long. I do not have another census on James yet. 1880 Franklin Co.,Ky.--Benson Dist. William Perkins, w,m, 54, Farmer, b. Ky., b. Va., B. Va. Margaret E. Perkins, w,f, 40, wife, keeping house, b. Ky., unknown, unknown Lucy A. Perkins, w,f, 18, dau, at home, b. Ky Nancy J. Perkins, w,f, 15, dau, at home, b Ky Louisa V. Perkins, w,f, 13, dau, at home, b Ky. **James H. Perkins, w,m, 8, son, b Ky** John M. Perkins w,m, 3, son, b Ky ========================== The other James H. Perkins was born April 6, 1872 in Shelby Co., Ky. which is right next to Franklin County. He died March 7, 1891 in Shelby Co. Source for birth and death from his tombstone at the Perkins-Roberts-Clark Cemetery in Shelby Co. This James's parents were; Francis Jackson Perkins, Sr. and Suhrena Susan Morris. They died in the years, 1929 & 1885. James's father remarried after Suhrena's death. Here is the same 1880 Census on this James. 1880 United States Census Jackson PERKINS Self M Male W 33 KY Farmer KY KY R. S. PERKINS Wife M Female W 30 KY Keeping House ("Rena" Susan) Georgia A. PERKINS Dau S Female W 10 KY At Home KY KY James H. PERKINS Son S Male W 8 KY KY KY Elizebeth PERKINS Dau S Female W 5 KY KY KY Francis J. PERKINS Son S Male W 3 KY KY KY Mary B. PERKINS Dau S Female W 7M KY KY KY * George B. PERKINS Brother S Male W 18 KY Works On Farm KY KY * Lou R. ROBERTS Sister W Female W 22 KY KY KY * Cyntha B. ROBERTS Other S Female W 1 KY (niece of Jackson Perkins-dau of Lou, above) Source Information: Census Place Hardinsville, Shelby, Kentucky Family History Library Film 1254442 NA Film Number T9-0442 Page Number 298B As you know, looking for someone between the years 1880-1894 is impossible. The best way to discover the correct James H. Perkins' is by an additional census showing him with Martha or Belle and then getting a death certificate on him if he lived after 1911. _RootsWeb Presents Kentucky Death Records 1911-2000_ (http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ky/death/search.cgi) I will get back to you if I find anything by replying to this email again. Phyllis