----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis A Raker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [KYFRANKL] how to search this--again > Thanks to you who replied on searching the KYVitals site. > > I have tried it all and get "no results for your search" > > > I tried someone in about 5 different decades.............nothing comes > up. > > Phyllis Counts Raker > Cincinnati > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Phillis, Most of the images at the KVRP site are for the years 1911-1914. To date, more than 100,000 images have been processed for those years. There are some images for later years that have been donated to the project by visitors. If you have had problems searching for a name, there is link on the SEARCH RECORDS page to "Surname Spellings." All images are transcribed with the actual spelling shown on the death certificate. If you used the common spelling of a name in your search and did not find it, you can search the "Surname Spellings" page using the first letter, or more, of the name to determine whether it is listed under another spelling. When the informant gave the deceased's name to a clerk, the way its spelled is the way the clerk heard it. Some of these spellings are quite creative and some very hard to read. I see from another message that you are searching the KNOX surname. Following are some of the spellings in the KVRP database for possible KNOX surnames: KNOCH, KNOCK, KNOCKE, KNOCKS, KNONTZ, KNOXX, NOX Try these spellings to see if you might have more success. If you need help, let me know. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis A Raker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [KYFRANKL] how to search this--again > Thanks to you who replied on searching the KYVitals site. > > I have tried it all and get "no results for your search" > > > I tried someone in about 5 different decades.............nothing comes > up. > > Phyllis Counts Raker > Cincinnati > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to you who replied on searching the KYVitals site. I have tried it all and get "no results for your search" I tried someone in about 5 different decades.............nothing comes up. Phyllis Counts Raker Cincinnati

Yes, Suzanne, I've tried every scenario possible. Thank you for writing back. I have thought about that Austin Bohannon. ??????? On the 1810 census, James has one child, male, u5. Robert does not have any children under 5 on that census. This child is the only one listed with James and female (Mary). Austin was born in Feb..........census later in year. That would be 5 years of marriage without children..............then on 1820 census there's about half a dozen children, and some that would have been born between 1805 and 1810. So -- could Robert's lst wife Elizabeth have died ?childbirth, and the child being cared for by James. Then, on the census there is a female in home of Robert close to age of Elizabeth, if she is living. If not Elizabeth ??............and Milly is MUCH younger. Milly came into the picture a few years before the marriage.............first child of Robert and Milly was born a few months before the marriage. It's said she was a neighbor brought in for household help. I also cannot place these two men...........I believe them to be brothers to each other........and who else ??? There is a Wilkerson KNOX and a Drury KNOX, both born in 1816 and 1817. Wilkerson is also on the estate settlement of Robert's 2nd wife Milly.......but can not put him in his place in the family. Surely would have been thoughtful of Robert and James to have left a will or/and an estate settlement !!!!!! Believe me, I have looked and looked. This KNOX family just goes round and round !!!!! Phyllis Counts Raker Cincinnati

Phyllis, Following is the link to the death certificate search page: http://www.kyvitals.com/ Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis A Raker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: [KYFRANKL] how to search this > Regarding the message below received on Franklin co KY list....... > > How is it possible to search this site for death certificates ????? > > **************** > In a message dated 1/21/2007 1:08:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > http://kyvitals.com/vis/search/view_death_rec.php?deathID=63624 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The KNOX family was living in Franklin Co. KY in early 1800's. Robert Knox (born 1758, Ireland) and his first wife, Elizabeth Gill, had come there from South Carolina. According to Bible records, they married in SC in 1784. It's said that Elizabeth died about 1809, and that Robert went back, in 1810, to South Carolina to 'settle her estate' . Robert died 1836 in Gallatin Co. KY. The oldest child of this marriage was James, b. 1785, in SC. He married, in Franklin Co. in 1805, Mary McCreary. Mary died in 1830 /31, according to church records of the Sharon Road Baptist Church, Carroll Co. KY. I am trying to find parents for Austin KNOX, b. 1810 KY. Austin in on the estate settlement for Robert's second wife, Millie Bohannon, d. 1860, in Gallatin Co. Is he the son of Robert, or of James.? I'm convinced it's one or the other. Would there be ANYONE on this list that would be searching either of these two families? I have lots of KNOX information on either side of 1810, willing to share. Phyllis Counts Raker Cincinnati

Regarding the message below received on Franklin co KY list....... How is it possible to search this site for death certificates ????? **************** In a message dated 1/21/2007 1:08:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: http://kyvitals.com/vis/search/view_death_rec.php?deathID=63624

According to Forks of Elkhorn Church, by Ermina Jett Darnell, Milly Bohannon married Robert Knox in Franklin County, KY in 1817, then went to Gallatin County. Milly's father was Austin Bohannon. This might be a hint that Austin Knox was Robert's son, named after Milly's father. What do you think? Suzanne Russell -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phyllis A Raker Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYFRANKL] Knox -- Gill -- McCreary The KNOX family was living in Franklin Co. KY in early 1800's. Robert Knox (born 1758, Ireland) and his first wife, Elizabeth Gill, had come there from South Carolina. According to Bible records, they married in SC in 1784. It's said that Elizabeth died about 1809, and that Robert went back, in 1810, to South Carolina to 'settle her estate' . Robert died 1836 in Gallatin Co. KY. The oldest child of this marriage was James, b. 1785, in SC. He married, in Franklin Co. in 1805, Mary McCreary. Mary died in 1830 /31, according to church records of the Sharon Road Baptist Church, Carroll Co. KY. I am trying to find parents for Austin KNOX, b. 1810 KY. Austin in on the estate settlement for Robert's second wife, Millie Bohannon, d. 1860, in Gallatin Co. Is he the son of Robert, or of James.? I'm convinced it's one or the other. Would there be ANYONE on this list that would be searching either of these two families? I have lots of KNOX information on either side of 1810, willing to share. Phyllis Counts Raker Cincinnati ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 1/21/2007 1:08:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: http://kyvitals.com/vis/search/view_death_rec.php?deathID=63624 I also look in the Franklin County Church and Family graves book with no luck with John L. Hunter. I also looked in the Frankfort Cemetery Book for Hunters and Martins to see if he was buried next to other family but no luck. I notice on the death certificate it did not list a burial site just the Funeral Home which is still in business today. It was started in 1802 and is the oldest Funeral Home in the nation I have listed their telephone number maybe they still have the records In book form. Also, these records have been microfilmed and can be viewed at the Kentucky History center I have also listed their number. They are not open in Mondays. They can probably search the microfilm for you and which may have additional information. Rogers Funeral Home 502-223-3481 History Center 502-564-1792 or _http://history.ky.gov/_ (http://history.ky.gov/) Good luck Mike

Here is a copy of the death certificate for this child: http://kyvitals.com/vis/search/view_death_rec.php?deathID=63624 Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: [KYFRANKL] Lawrence Hunter's burial site? >I am trying to find the burial site and actual date of death of a little >boy who died in Franklin Co., KY. > > Lawrence Hunter (b. 1906) Hamilton Co., OH (Cincinnati area) son of Daniel > T. Hunter and Ella Martin Hunter. Lawrence's father, Daniel, worked for > the railroad and died February 25, 1910. His mother brought her two > children, Lawrence and Etta Irene, back to Frankfort to live with her > mother and step father, John Andrews and Lucy Martin Andrews on Mero > Street. This family appears in the 1910 Franklin County Census which was > taken April 24, 1910. > Family lore says that Lawrence died of pneumonia at about the age of 4 or > 5. > > So I know that he died after 2/25/1910 (date of the 1910 census) but > before > the 1920 Census. Can anyone look at cemetery records anywhere in Franklin > Co. and tell me if they find a Lawrence Hunter buried there? > > Appreciate your help. > Linda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, The closest that I found listed in Vital Stats was: JNO L HUNTER Date 130603 Age 007 Place FRNKL Volume 031 Cert 15476 Deathvol 13 This is for John L Hunter Died 3 Jun 1913 Age 7 Yrs Place: Franklin County Volume: 31 Certificate # 15476 Death Volume: 13 I don't know for sure what the difference is between the volume and death volume........ Don't know if this is who you are looking for or not, but it was too close to just ignore........ Happy Hunting, Donna in SW GA

Hello Linda: I have referred to my book "Index of the Frankfort Cemetery" (Frankfort, Franklin County, KY), published in 2005, and do NOT find an entry for Lawrence Hunter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: [KYFRANKL] Lawrence Hunter's burial site? >I am trying to find the burial site and actual date of death of a little >boy who died in Franklin Co., KY. > > Lawrence Hunter (b. 1906) Hamilton Co., OH (Cincinnati area) son of Daniel > T. Hunter and Ella Martin Hunter. Lawrence's father, Daniel, worked for > the railroad and died February 25, 1910. His mother brought her two > children, Lawrence and Etta Irene, back to Frankfort to live with her > mother and step father, John Andrews and Lucy Martin Andrews on Mero > Street. This family appears in the 1910 Franklin County Census which was > taken April 24, 1910. > Family lore says that Lawrence died of pneumonia at about the age of 4 or > 5. > > So I know that he died after 2/25/1910 (date of the 1910 census) but > before > the 1920 Census. Can anyone look at cemetery records anywhere in Franklin > Co. and tell me if they find a Lawrence Hunter buried there? > > Appreciate your help. > Linda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just added a few more pages to my BUFORD Web Site. Come on over and take a look... www.bufordfamilies.com More to be added tomorrow Thanks, Fern K. Buford Walker

Thank you. So very much! The family story may bite the dust as we track George Young through Kentucky! I just really want to know -- and the older I get, the more I recognize the "stubborn" in me -- Thank you for taking the time to look this up -- and being so kind to send it to me. Warm regards, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennie & Bob Cox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [KYFRANKL] YOUNG and WOOLUMS Your George Young appears in the 1930 US census in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, OH. He is living in a household also occupied by his brother. They apparently reside in an apartment building at 6401 Euclid Avenue in the city of Cleveland, for which they pay monthly rental of $22. Both men are identified as single white males, can read & write, and are not military veterans. George Young is listed as age 27, born KY & both parents born KY, he worked as an ice man at the ice company. Also in the household is his brother William Young. William is listed as age 23, born KY & both parents born KY, he worked as a clerk in an office. I referred to my book, an index of burials in the Frankfort Cemetery, Franklin County, KY (published by the cemetery in 2005). I do not see George Young listed as being buried there. However, I see a possible older brother: Gilbert I. "Zip" Young, born 03 April 1902 & died 19 April 1973. Age 71, male, married. Interred 21 April 1973. Buried in section AA, lot 19F, grave 1. Buried next to him in section AA, lot 19F, grave 2 is his wife Georgia R. Young, born 14 April 1908, died 03 March 1992. Age 83, female, married. Her maiden name may have been Flynn, since "Young-Flynn" is engraved on the grave marker. Good luck! Virginia Perry Cox ----- Original Message ----- From: "KarenKingHiatt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:39 AM Subject: [KYFRANKL] YOUNG and WOOLUMS >I just opened my mail -- and have a Marriage Record (1930) in Cuyahoga >County, OH (Cleveland) for > George Young, age 27 and Matilda Schneider, age 23, the biological > grandparents of my adopted children. The marriage ended in divorce within > six years -- after the birth of two children -- and the family does NOT > talk about George Young. It has taken me YEARS to get enough information > to DO any research. > > Matilda remarried -- to Frank Ryan -- he adopted the children -- and we > have a puzzle that has been a brick wall. > > According to the marriage record I'm holding -- > George Young was born in Frankfort Kentucky about 1903 -- > his parents were Gilbert Young and Susie Woolums. > > Up until tonight, I thought that George Young was born in Michigan -- but > this marriage record that shows his birthplace in Frankfort, Kentucky is > finally providing us a clue we can research. > > This is probably the beginning of a long search -- and I'm just posting > this tonight because I'm EXCITED -- and there's no one to talk to here (my > husband died in 2002 -- or he'd be doing the Happy Dance with me! I also > received an obituary for an unwed Mom in MY family -- that had married > surnames for her granddaughters, but that's another story -- just a darn > good day -- and I'm sharing it with you!) > > The HIATT family story is that grandfather George Young was a Native > American -- and certainly, my children do look as if they had that > heritage. > > I am interested in documenting the history of their family -- for our 11 > grandchildren. > > I know NOTHING about searching in Kentucky -- we're lucky in Cuyahoga > County to have a Historical Marriage Index, on line, for free -- and once > I finally learned the NAMES of the grandparents, I sent for the document. > I did expect to get a photocopy of the APPLICATION -- which would have > given a lot more info -- instead, this RECORD is more of an abstract -- > all typewritten. Ptui. Tomorrow I'll deal with it. > > meanwhile -- if anyone is miraculously interested in this same historical > family -- I'll be THRILLED. Or if some kind Gene-angel will head me in > the right direction for Kentucky research, all advice will be gratefully > received. I'm willing to do the work -- just too excited tonight to > figure it out. > > AND I keep hoping for miracles! (which is what happened once I'd > documented 3 generations of HIATT -- and then we were linked to the full > ten generations back to William Penn's second ship of Quaker immigrants. > Ahhh. All documented. By Bob's 4th cousin Lynn Messina, in Indiana, > Bless Lynn for finding Bob's ONLY first cousin and introducing us before > both Bob and Burt died.) > > I have met the nicest people while researching family history! I do some > genealogy volunteer work here -- and will take digital pictures of > headstones here if someone needs that. > > Warm regards, > > Karen King Hiatt > in cold Cleveland OH > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nora -- How kind you are to write -- and so gently, too! I am not new to genealogy -- but I'm UNTRAINED -- and very enthusiastic -- and unsure! In the past, I've also teamed up with a cousin -- and we've been working together to research our MORAN and KING and HELFRICH and KONN (Konopinsky) and KLUCK and MUELLER and NOULLET (in Ireland and Germany and Prussia and Alsace Lorraine). And we're back to the old country on all of them -- now we just need $$$$ for on-site research -- and to hire someone who reads the language. And my late husband and I researched HIATT on our own -- from Cleveland -- until we found the birthplace for his parents and grandparents -- about a four-hour drive from here -- and THEN we went traveling and found the rest of the family history in Winchester, Randolph County, Indiana. Then we had the travel bug! And when we visited my family in Florida -- we took a different route each time so we could see for ourselves -- the HIATT migration path in his direct line. We never made it to the last piece of travel -- where his grandparents (first cousins) traveled in a wagon train from Indiana to Missouri (Carter County) -- and when their fathers both died, their mothers (sisters) brought the younger children back to Indiana. So. Lots to do yet! But this Native American story in my children's family is starting to heat up -- the older grandchildren are doing 8th grade essays on their family history (must be a school tradition -- I remember doing one of my own -- asking questions of my grandparents -- and only NOW understanding their answers (and what they did NOT admit to, like the unmarried grandmother, and their trace of ethnicity NOT what they claimed (yes, the "Irish" had an Englishwoman, and the "Germans" had some Polish and French!) And when I found that information, it rocked the foundations of MY parents -- who were in their 80's at the time -- and they literally had to comfort each other. And when my Dear Husband, agnostic and very American non-ethnic -- who had been gently poking fun of MY Irish heritage (and 44 first cousins) for 30 years -- and my religious background (lots of priests and nuns and brothers) -- oh, it was great fun to discover his 8th great grandmother was a MINISTER -- a Quaker minister -- and IRISH, to boot! It's to Bob's credit that he accepted it all -- and told the story on himself -- and stopped poking fun at my people. (:-) So, here I am, without Bob's help, trying to explain the family story to our grandchildren -- and it just suddenly loomed up over me like a big brick wall, and I got my "stubborn Dutch" up (or maybe Dad's "mule-y Irish" (:-) ---- and just decided to figure this out. One Baby Step at a time. It took a long time just to get names -- then about a month to obtain a document -- and I know this one will be hard. My children remember their biological mother -- and my late husband told me that his ex-wife had a terrible childhood -- divorced parents, looking different from other children -- and Bob thought she'd been the butt of school bullies and anti-Indian prejudice. She never spoke of her father to the children -- and their grandmother told them he was Cherokee. Which would make Janet 1/2 or maybe 1/4 Native American -- depending on the rest of his genealogy. I don't think so. I'm a retired social worker, and had a professional acquaintance with our Cleveland American Indian Center -- and took the family story to them 30 years ago -- and back then we thought that the YOUNG family came from Michigan -- the Director looked at pictures of our children -- and said highly unlikely that a Cherokee family had settled in Michigan -- and none of our children "looked" Cherokee to him. And apparently the whole world thinks it's fashionable to claim to be Cherokee (:-) And this is how far-fetched a family story can get -- my middle son's classmates thought he looked like the model on the Indian-head nickel (which is actually a composite of 3 tribal leaders -- Oglala, Seneca and Cheyenne tribes; Chief Iron Tail, Chief Two Moons and Big Tree -- the men). Bart has been interested in their history since he was a little boy. And REALLY wants to know who his ancestors were. He's my wandering child -- left home at 18 to join the Army -- and left them as soon as possible -- to travel the world. He's been everywhere in the United States -- and might be settled in Arizona (third time's the charm, maybe!) He did buy property for the first time, age 47. High up a small mountain -- with no hope of ever building a road -- he says to bring my hiking boots when I come to see him. NOT going to happen. He will be mushing me up the mountain while I sit on a cart -- (:-) He's an inventor, like all the HIATT men -- so he'll figure out how to bring building materials on site -- so he can figure out how to bring ME! ********* I woke up STILL excited about the YOUNG - WOOLUMS information. Tantalizing. Not enough! I've already phoned my Irish cousin -- who volunteers at the County archives -- and he's going to dig further for a real document (might NOT be available, he says -- brace myself) -- I want a BIRTH DATE for George Young. I want to know what he wrote for "race" -- I know in 1930 we were still asking rude questions like that in Cuyahoga County.. I have to wait until Wednesday to get to the LDS library -- and it's just as well -- I don't have ENOUGH data yet. I signed up for some computer time at the county library for this afternoon -- and I'll check the Cleveland city directories for 1929 through 1936 -- and see what I can find. MAYBE some work history for George Young -- this could be good! So I'll lurk on this list -- Google until I can't think of anything else -- and do some praying! Can't hurt. Could help! Thanks again, Nora -- for writing and kindly offering advice -- I'll be following it -- as soon as I get some REAL data, not just our "family stories". (I love family stories! Miss Bob the most when I find another clue -- and he's not there to share. I appreciate your taking the time and effort!) Warm regards, Karen in cold Cleveland, OH ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [KYFRANKL] KYFRANKL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 2 Karen, I am a descendent of 3 family lines in KY. One I can't find, One I don't anything about except he is a horsetrader and married to my other line, and the final person married the second, then married again and disappeared. You have more luck than I have had. _www.usgenweb.com_ (http://www.usgenweb.com) is a wonderful site to go to. [snip -- advice saved in my files!]

Karen, I am a descendent of 3 family lines in KY. One I can't find, One I don't anything about except he is a horsetrader and married to my other line, and the final person married the second, then married again and disappeared. You have more luck than I have had. _www.usgenweb.com_ (http://www.usgenweb.com) is a wonderful site to go to. KY has a lot of information on line at the site. You may want to go to some counties and look before you get in the car and go places. Also, rootsweb has a "census look-up" that you can join and they are very helpful. Of course going to the actual census is best. Since your ancestors are in the 1900s you can try the Social Security site. They do have some information about a person if they had a social security no. Also, death certificates have information on them and funeral homes. Birth certificates are also good to have for information. You are lucky that some of these things were in place for your ancestors that were more recent. Census are great. Just finding them on the census is the problem, especially if they moved often. Also, beware that some of the ages may be different and not in relationship to the census before that one! One decade they are 28 and ten years later, they are 49. Note: I was lucky about these census. I found out that some times people are deceptive or the information comes from another source like a neighbor, etc. On one census one of my families had a set of names for the children, the next year, they had a different set of names. Later I found out that one census they listed the first names of the children and the next census they used the middle name. I got the whole package, but in an odd way. My ancestor's brother had George as his name...I later found out that he listed it as G. W. After a long search in the courthouse finding documents on this line, I found out that his name was George Washington and my ancestor was Andrew Jackson. It really put a plug in the naming patterns of the Scots! Finally, IF you have Native American blood lines, there are a lot of wonderful sites on the Internet that would be a great help. Do a search for Native American genealogy and you can come up with a lot of sources. Remember that history was not gentle with people who married into the Native American society. They kept it a secret, especially in the 1800s. You may find it difficult to find your ancestor, but keep digging. I am looking for a Native American line on my tree also. It gets frustrating. I have been at this researching "stuff" since 1997 and I have made great strides and also remain in the same position I was in 97. One day, everything will be discovered if it is possible. I am not kin to your lines that I know of. But, please send me an e-mail with HELP and I will try to do my best to help you. I am not a professional, but have been successful. Researching for ancestors is not an instant discovery! ONE good thing, you meet a lot of people that will be willing to help you, and you also meet a lot of cousins and that is the best part! Talk later. Nora

Forgot to mention: -- Kentucky did not mandate reporting of births until 1911, so it may be hard to find further proof of a birth date for somebody born in 1903. -- Frankfort, Franklin Count, KY is the current and historical state capital. They have an excellent organization there, the Kentucky Historical Society. They may be able to help you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennie & Bob Cox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [KYFRANKL] YOUNG and WOOLUMS > Your George Young appears in the 1930 US census in Cleveland, Cuyahoga > County, OH. He is living in a household also occupied by his brother. > They apparently reside in an apartment building at 6401 Euclid Avenue in > the city of Cleveland, for which they pay monthly rental of $22. Both men > are identified as single white males, can read & write, and are not > military veterans. > George Young is listed as age 27, born KY & both parents born KY, he > worked as an ice man at the ice company. > Also in the household is his brother William Young. William is listed as > age 23, born KY & both parents born KY, he worked as a clerk in an office. > > I referred to my book, an index of burials in the Frankfort Cemetery, > Franklin County, KY (published by the cemetery in 2005). I do not see > George Young listed as being buried there. However, I see a possible > older brother: > Gilbert I. "Zip" Young, born 03 April 1902 & died 19 April 1973. Age 71, > male, married. Interred 21 April 1973. Buried in section AA, lot 19F, > grave 1. > Buried next to him in section AA, lot 19F, grave 2 is his wife Georgia R. > Young, born 14 April 1908, died 03 March 1992. Age 83, female, married. > Her maiden name may have been Flynn, since "Young-Flynn" is engraved on > the grave marker. > > Good luck! > Virginia Perry Cox > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KarenKingHiatt" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:39 AM > Subject: [KYFRANKL] YOUNG and WOOLUMS > > >>I just opened my mail -- and have a Marriage Record (1930) in Cuyahoga >>County, OH (Cleveland) for >> George Young, age 27 and Matilda Schneider, age 23, the biological >> grandparents of my adopted children. The marriage ended in divorce >> within six years -- after the birth of two children -- and the family >> does NOT talk about George Young. It has taken me YEARS to get enough >> information to DO any research. >> >> Matilda remarried -- to Frank Ryan -- he adopted the children -- and we >> have a puzzle that has been a brick wall. >> >> According to the marriage record I'm holding -- >> George Young was born in Frankfort Kentucky about 1903 -- >> his parents were Gilbert Young and Susie Woolums. >> >> Up until tonight, I thought that George Young was born in Michigan -- but >> this marriage record that shows his birthplace in Frankfort, Kentucky is >> finally providing us a clue we can research. >> >> This is probably the beginning of a long search -- and I'm just posting >> this tonight because I'm EXCITED -- and there's no one to talk to here >> (my husband died in 2002 -- or he'd be doing the Happy Dance with me! I >> also received an obituary for an unwed Mom in MY family -- that had >> married surnames for her granddaughters, but that's another story -- just >> a darn good day -- and I'm sharing it with you!) >> >> The HIATT family story is that grandfather George Young was a Native >> American -- and certainly, my children do look as if they had that >> heritage. >> >> I am interested in documenting the history of their family -- for our 11 >> grandchildren. >> >> I know NOTHING about searching in Kentucky -- we're lucky in Cuyahoga >> County to have a Historical Marriage Index, on line, for free -- and once >> I finally learned the NAMES of the grandparents, I sent for the document. >> I did expect to get a photocopy of the APPLICATION -- which would have >> given a lot more info -- instead, this RECORD is more of an abstract -- >> all typewritten. Ptui. Tomorrow I'll deal with it. >> >> meanwhile -- if anyone is miraculously interested in this same historical >> family -- I'll be THRILLED. Or if some kind Gene-angel will head me in >> the right direction for Kentucky research, all advice will be gratefully >> received. I'm willing to do the work -- just too excited tonight to >> figure it out. >> >> AND I keep hoping for miracles! (which is what happened once I'd >> documented 3 generations of HIATT -- and then we were linked to the full >> ten generations back to William Penn's second ship of Quaker immigrants. >> Ahhh. All documented. By Bob's 4th cousin Lynn Messina, in Indiana, >> Bless Lynn for finding Bob's ONLY first cousin and introducing us before >> both Bob and Burt died.) >> >> I have met the nicest people while researching family history! I do >> some genealogy volunteer work here -- and will take digital pictures of >> headstones here if someone needs that. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Karen King Hiatt >> in cold Cleveland OH >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Your George Young appears in the 1930 US census in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, OH. He is living in a household also occupied by his brother. They apparently reside in an apartment building at 6401 Euclid Avenue in the city of Cleveland, for which they pay monthly rental of $22. Both men are identified as single white males, can read & write, and are not military veterans. George Young is listed as age 27, born KY & both parents born KY, he worked as an ice man at the ice company. Also in the household is his brother William Young. William is listed as age 23, born KY & both parents born KY, he worked as a clerk in an office. I referred to my book, an index of burials in the Frankfort Cemetery, Franklin County, KY (published by the cemetery in 2005). I do not see George Young listed as being buried there. However, I see a possible older brother: Gilbert I. "Zip" Young, born 03 April 1902 & died 19 April 1973. Age 71, male, married. Interred 21 April 1973. Buried in section AA, lot 19F, grave 1. Buried next to him in section AA, lot 19F, grave 2 is his wife Georgia R. Young, born 14 April 1908, died 03 March 1992. Age 83, female, married. Her maiden name may have been Flynn, since "Young-Flynn" is engraved on the grave marker. Good luck! Virginia Perry Cox ----- Original Message ----- From: "KarenKingHiatt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:39 AM Subject: [KYFRANKL] YOUNG and WOOLUMS >I just opened my mail -- and have a Marriage Record (1930) in Cuyahoga >County, OH (Cleveland) for > George Young, age 27 and Matilda Schneider, age 23, the biological > grandparents of my adopted children. The marriage ended in divorce within > six years -- after the birth of two children -- and the family does NOT > talk about George Young. It has taken me YEARS to get enough information > to DO any research. > > Matilda remarried -- to Frank Ryan -- he adopted the children -- and we > have a puzzle that has been a brick wall. > > According to the marriage record I'm holding -- > George Young was born in Frankfort Kentucky about 1903 -- > his parents were Gilbert Young and Susie Woolums. > > Up until tonight, I thought that George Young was born in Michigan -- but > this marriage record that shows his birthplace in Frankfort, Kentucky is > finally providing us a clue we can research. > > This is probably the beginning of a long search -- and I'm just posting > this tonight because I'm EXCITED -- and there's no one to talk to here (my > husband died in 2002 -- or he'd be doing the Happy Dance with me! I also > received an obituary for an unwed Mom in MY family -- that had married > surnames for her granddaughters, but that's another story -- just a darn > good day -- and I'm sharing it with you!) > > The HIATT family story is that grandfather George Young was a Native > American -- and certainly, my children do look as if they had that > heritage. > > I am interested in documenting the history of their family -- for our 11 > grandchildren. > > I know NOTHING about searching in Kentucky -- we're lucky in Cuyahoga > County to have a Historical Marriage Index, on line, for free -- and once > I finally learned the NAMES of the grandparents, I sent for the document. > I did expect to get a photocopy of the APPLICATION -- which would have > given a lot more info -- instead, this RECORD is more of an abstract -- > all typewritten. Ptui. Tomorrow I'll deal with it. > > meanwhile -- if anyone is miraculously interested in this same historical > family -- I'll be THRILLED. Or if some kind Gene-angel will head me in > the right direction for Kentucky research, all advice will be gratefully > received. I'm willing to do the work -- just too excited tonight to > figure it out. > > AND I keep hoping for miracles! (which is what happened once I'd > documented 3 generations of HIATT -- and then we were linked to the full > ten generations back to William Penn's second ship of Quaker immigrants. > Ahhh. All documented. By Bob's 4th cousin Lynn Messina, in Indiana, > Bless Lynn for finding Bob's ONLY first cousin and introducing us before > both Bob and Burt died.) > > I have met the nicest people while researching family history! I do some > genealogy volunteer work here -- and will take digital pictures of > headstones here if someone needs that. > > Warm regards, > > Karen King Hiatt > in cold Cleveland OH > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just opened my mail -- and have a Marriage Record (1930) in Cuyahoga County, OH (Cleveland) for George Young, age 27 and Matilda Schneider, age 23, the biological grandparents of my adopted children. The marriage ended in divorce within six years -- after the birth of two children -- and the family does NOT talk about George Young. It has taken me YEARS to get enough information to DO any research. Matilda remarried -- to Frank Ryan -- he adopted the children -- and we have a puzzle that has been a brick wall. According to the marriage record I'm holding -- George Young was born in Frankfort Kentucky about 1903 -- his parents were Gilbert Young and Susie Woolums. Up until tonight, I thought that George Young was born in Michigan -- but this marriage record that shows his birthplace in Frankfort, Kentucky is finally providing us a clue we can research. This is probably the beginning of a long search -- and I'm just posting this tonight because I'm EXCITED -- and there's no one to talk to here (my husband died in 2002 -- or he'd be doing the Happy Dance with me! I also received an obituary for an unwed Mom in MY family -- that had married surnames for her granddaughters, but that's another story -- just a darn good day -- and I'm sharing it with you!) The HIATT family story is that grandfather George Young was a Native American -- and certainly, my children do look as if they had that heritage. I am interested in documenting the history of their family -- for our 11 grandchildren. I know NOTHING about searching in Kentucky -- we're lucky in Cuyahoga County to have a Historical Marriage Index, on line, for free -- and once I finally learned the NAMES of the grandparents, I sent for the document. I did expect to get a photocopy of the APPLICATION -- which would have given a lot more info -- instead, this RECORD is more of an abstract -- all typewritten. Ptui. Tomorrow I'll deal with it. meanwhile -- if anyone is miraculously interested in this same historical family -- I'll be THRILLED. Or if some kind Gene-angel will head me in the right direction for Kentucky research, all advice will be gratefully received. I'm willing to do the work -- just too excited tonight to figure it out. AND I keep hoping for miracles! (which is what happened once I'd documented 3 generations of HIATT -- and then we were linked to the full ten generations back to William Penn's second ship of Quaker immigrants. Ahhh. All documented. By Bob's 4th cousin Lynn Messina, in Indiana, Bless Lynn for finding Bob's ONLY first cousin and introducing us before both Bob and Burt died.) I have met the nicest people while researching family history! I do some genealogy volunteer work here -- and will take digital pictures of headstones here if someone needs that. Warm regards, Karen King Hiatt in cold Cleveland OH

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