This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/pAB.2ACI/5363.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Carol, Thanks for the reply.I'm not really sure of Lovina's birthdate( at least not now).On the list of Jesse and Rebecca's children they have their oldest child listed as being born on 12-12-1880(Nelve) also known as Blue Nelve and they have Lovina's birthdate as 9-18-1871.The birthday I had for Minnie Ma was 1892,so that can't be right if Lovina and Rhodes didn't get married until 1898.I do know that Minnie Ma died in 1929,when her daughter Martha was born.Martha also died ,probably shortly after birth.My father was 5yrs. old at that time.I would love to have a copy of the papers that you got the info from,especially the marriage license.Is there some way I could get a copy from you?Thanks for you time .Linda P.S. How are you related to the family?