Margie; I rechecked in the book and for Henry Rohrer m. to Magdalena Huber and he spelled it Rohrer maybe. But then there is this general switching around between Rohrer and Rhorer in that family. This makes it hard when you go to look up something that is in alphabetical order. And that surname of Good for Ann Good was I am certain Guth. Some of the German families capitulated sooner than later. I have Schnocks and that can go all the way to Shook. That some Rohrers or Rhorers are Presbyterian is interesting. I think they all started out as either Lutherans or even Mennonites in some cases, especially the ones who stayed in Pennsylvania. My line of Rehrers had nothing to do with this $50 book I bought. I have Berks County PA Rehrers or Rohrers or whatever spelling they latched onto. That is not as confusing though as the number of Johann Jacob Rohrers they have.. the genealogical kiss of death to figure out. Anyway, in this book I have there is a lengthy discussion on pages 18 and 19 about whether or not the family of Rhorers in Jessamine County was Presbyterian or not. I have no idea but it says that Jacob Rohrer, Moses Hoover, Abraham Houser Sr were Dunkard preachers. Then later members of the family became affiliated with more "generic" Christian churches as the author puts it. In my opinion, I think the Rohrers who went to KY assimilated into the mainstream whereas the ones who stayed in PA maintained more of a German culture. My great grandmother Dollingers brothers all learned German first in the late 1800s and the family had been in the US for well over 100 years at that point. The Wicliffe book is good on background and even explains German customs. pamela

> Searching for "orphaned" A. J. and Collin BOSWORTH, 1824-1840. > > ALSO: > Parents of NANCY MCKINNEY BOSWORTH, 1796 - 1824 > > McKINNEY, NANCY is my g-g-grandmother. > > Ella in Michigan (ellah@prodigy.net) > > > >

Margie, LOL, yes I understand now. I thought you had only one. This list is perfect as I was looking for a family name who was a minister in a Presby church in that area. His sons were also but no one knows where they went. The name was STEWART and if you could also look up TURNER, I would really, really appreciate it. You have some priceless information in your hands. Thank you so much! Shirl ----- Original Message ----- From: BarclayMA@aol.com To: KYFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [KYFAYETT]Pewee Valley Presby Church Yikes, I've only a photocopy of the Session Minutes. Lists are endless. Here's the Roll of Pastors 1866-1951: McCowan McKee Dick Brown Archibald Barr Hopkins Humphrey Cleland Raynard Randolph Creighton Hoye Cotton Rule Fox Duncan Davidson Lyons Crandell It's too long to list the members. Ask me names...Margie ==== KYFAYETT Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a message with only the word 'unsubscribe' to KYFAYETT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or KYFAYETT-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM, depending if you receive 'list mode' or 'digest mode'. Thanks! ============================== Know the town name but not the county? Look it up at: http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi

Yikes, I've only a photocopy of the Session Minutes. Lists are endless. Here's the Roll of Pastors 1866-1951: McCowan McKee Dick Brown Archibald Barr Hopkins Humphrey Cleland Raynard Randolph Creighton Hoye Cotton Rule Fox Duncan Davidson Lyons Crandell It's too long to list the members. Ask me names...Margie

Margie, I have also been looking for information of the Presby churches in that area. Could you possibly send the list of session member and the minister's name(s) ? Thank you Shirl in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: BarclayMA@aol.com To: KYFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 3:13 PM Subject: [KYFAYETT] Rhorer or Rohrer?- Pewee Valley Presby Church You are spelling it Rohrer - I made that "mistake" for many years. I have a copy of the Session Minutes of the Pewee Valley Presbyterian Church where my greatgrandfather was an Elder and the Clerk. He spells his father-in-law's name as Rhorer. I also have pictures of Rhoreres marked Rhorer. By the way, the Session Book lists the members of the congregation from the founding in1866 to the early 1900's. Are there any names you would like looked up? Margie ==== KYFAYETT Mailing List ==== Your best bet to get the answers you need is to ask questions! We're here to help each other out! ============================== Check out RootsWeb's new threaded archives! http://archiver.rootsweb.com/

You are spelling it Rohrer - I made that "mistake" for many years. I have a copy of the Session Minutes of the Pewee Valley Presbyterian Church where my greatgrandfather was an Elder and the Clerk. He spells his father-in-law's name as Rhorer. I also have pictures of Rhoreres marked Rhorer. By the way, the Session Book lists the members of the congregation from the founding in1866 to the early 1900's. Are there any names you would like looked up? Margie

Dear Pamela, Thank you for all the "new" family. Lucky that today is a holiday and I will have time to absorb all this. And a cousin of mineis arriving tomorrow. We have been sharing family pictures and history. What a surprise he will get! Margie Barclay in NYC

HARTs in the 1820 census index: name county page Aaron HRD 8 Aaron MNR 209 Aaron GSN 139A Alfred CWL 35 Amos HRD 90 Amy JEF 34 Ann HND 13 Beazley PUL 66A Benjamin MTG 271 Charles, Jr. MER 97 Charles, Sr. MER 97 Charles WYN 92A Childers WYN 92A Danl. T. JEF 34 David MER 97 David BTH 208 David FLG 26A Ed GRD 96A Elijah FLG 57A Ezekiel BLT 154 Gabriel SPN 11A Geo. BRK 261 Henry BLT 154 Henry BTH 210 Henry SPN 11A Hezekiah HRD 92 Hezekiah WYN 93A Israel, Senr. PUL 66A Jack LNC 33 James MTG 231 John BRN 16 John CWL 31 John CLK 77 John HRD 86 John MER 114 John MAD 146 John BTH 172 John, Sen. ALN 66A John HND 11A John FLG 26A John GRD 123A Josiah HRD 68 Josiah CLK 72 Mary BLT 196 Miles GSN 139A Minor FTE 86 Molly FTE 110 Moses GRN 80 Nancy PND 22A Nathaniel WDF 125A Nathl. MAS 67 Nicholas PND 2A Olive GNP 172A Oliver FTE 65 Pleasant MER 98 Reubin MAD 140 Ricard MAD 140 Richard G. HND 7 Robert WYN 92A Robt. CWL 31 Ruchd. FLG 57A Samuel MER 114 Samuel BTH 210 Silas HRD 92 Solomon UNN 151 Susanna FTE 62 Thomas P. FTE 110 Thos. HND 12 William HND 11 William BNE 20 Wm. JEF 32 HART? Jonathan ADR 24 William BTH 174 ADR Adair ALN Allen BLT Bullit BRK Breckinridge BRN Barren BTH Bath CLK Clark CWL Caldwell FLG Fleming FTE Fayette GNP Greenup GRD Garrard GRN Green GSN Grayson HND Henderson HRD Hardin JEF Jefferson LNC Lincoln MAD Madison MAS Mason MER Mercer MNR Monroe MTG Montgomery PND Pendleton PUL Pulaski SPN Simpson UNN Union WDF Woodford WYN Wayne * Charlotte wrote: > > I'll take Hart for 400... > > Any Hart families... > > Thanks bunches.... > > Charlotte >

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> > > Samuel Rohrer b. 5 Jan 1793 near Hagerstown, Md and m. 02 March 1812 > > > "Catherine Dillman in Snyder Co., PA . She was born 22 Dec 1792 Snyder > >Co. > > > Pa at Zion Lutheran Church and d 12 June 1842. Samuel died 29 Dec 1876 > >in > > > Jessamine Co. KY. > > > Issue: > > > 1. Mary Ann b. 14 Dec 1812 > > > 2. Jonas Huber, b. 3 Jan 1814 in Brown Co, OH m. Louisa Cowden b. 5 > >April > > > 1818 and d. 21 June 1838. Jonas died after 09 July 1894. > > > 3. Francis b. 11 Dec 1815 > > > 4. George Dillman Rohrer b. 22 july 1817 Brown Co OH and m. 13 Oct > >1846 > > > Mary Anne Moore. b. 1 may 1823 d. 12 July 1876. George died 21 April > >1855. > > > 5. Elizabeth Ann Rohrer b. 11 July 1819 , Jessamine Co Ky and m. 08 > >June > > > 1840 to Samuel A. Smith and m (2) John David. Elizabeth died 24 Aug 1853 > > > buried Mt Pleasant IN > > > 6. Moses Hoover Rohrer b. 30 July and d 15 Aug 1822.Jessamine Co KY > > > 7. Phebe Ann Rohrer b. 17 April 1824 and m 31 May 1849 David Oaks. > > > 8. James Monroe Rohrer b. 17 May 1826 in Jessamine Co Ky and 24 April > >1855 > > > to nancy VIrginia Hickman. > > > 9. Samuel Andrew Rohrer b. 6 Sept 1828 , MOnroe Co In m 3 April 1855 > >Helen > > > Oliva Hynson. Samuel died 2 July 1862. After Samuel's death Helen > >married a > > > Mr. Barclay. > > > 10. Milton Marion Rohrer b. 19 Nov 1830, Monroe Co In and m. 25 march > >1855 > > > Virginia Young. > > > 11. Jonathon Nichols Rohrer b. 4 May 1834 in Monroe Co In and 22 Oct > >1857 > > > to Susan Neal. > > > 12. Nancy Magdalena Rohrer b. 20 Sept 1836 in Monroe Co IN and m. 24 > >Dec > > > 1858 to Joseph Milton Bryan. > > > 13. Julia Comley Rohrer b. 5 march 1841 in Monroe Co IN and m. 9 Nov > >1875 > > > John Homire. > > > > > > So does the author of this Rohrer book have some of the names wrong in > >this > > > list of people? He has Samuel's wife marrying a Mr. Barclay and Jonas > > > Huber married to Louisa Cowden. I assume this is your line as you giv e > >the > > > date of birtht of Jonas Huber as 1814. This man gives the place as Brown > >Co > > > Ohio. That will be interesting to know which is right. His address is > > > Wicliffe B. Neal, Rt 1 Box 96 Arlington Ky 42021. I assume the Rohrer > >book > > > is still for sale and he is working on corrections and other > >modifications. > > > You could write him and make corrections. The line of Jonas Huber is > >not > > > carried any further in this book. I will type out the original immigrant > > > Hans Michael Rohrer tomorrow. The son of Hans Michael that your line > >comes > > > from is Samuel Rohrer b. abt 1715 in Europe and d. 12 Aug 1788 buried in > > > Rohrersville, MD. He has a will dated November 14, 1786 and proven on > >august > > > 12, 1788. He is believed to have come on the ship Restauration in 1747 > >with > > > his father and brother Martin. He and Martin lived on adjoining farms in > >MD. > > > Pamela > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. >

Margie; I was trying to type on my son's computer last night and the angle to the keyboard was off so this should go better. Hans Michael Rohrer was born circa 1665 in Markirch, Alsace, m. 6 June 1688 in Markirch to Katherine Scwagler and m (2) unknown. Markirch, Alsace is today known as St. Marie-Aux-Mines, France. David Rohrer was probably a brother. He married Elizabeth Chenal on February 20, 1696 in Markirch. The second marriage of Hans Michael is based on the research of Albert L. Rohrer who came to the conclusion that Martin and Samuel were half brothers of John who aided them in purchasing and settling lands of Hagaerstown, MD. Samuel's farm bordered on a 320 acre tract known as Piney Hills Enlarged, which John Rohrer purchased from John Sweringen on March 16, 1763 and left to his son Martin by will. Louise Rhorer Eddleman states that this wife came to America with Hans and her two children Samuel and Martin. Children: 1. Hans Jacob Rohrer b 15 May 1689 in Markirch 2. Hans Michael Rohrer, b. 15 April 1691, Markirch 3. Verena Rohrer, b. 10 may 1693, Markirch 4. Anna Maria Rohrer, b. 4 May 4 May 1698, Markirch 5. David Rohrer, b. 10 Feb 1704, Markirch 6. Johannes Rohrer 7. John Jacob b. ??March 1696 8. Samuel, b. abt 1715 That last Samuel is your line. Samuel Rohrer b abt 1715 in Europe, probably Alsace. d 12 August 1788 and buried in Rohrersville, MD. He came to America when he was 11 years old. Will proven on August 12, 1788. Children: 1. Frederick, b. 20 March 1755 2. Henry 3. Christian Rohrer. No records other than to show that he died in Indiana. According to Louise Eddleman, Miss Bessie Rohrer stated that in Deed Book C, pages 570 to 571 in Washington Co, MD dated on December 12, 1791 that Christian and his brother Martin enlisted in Capt Lewis' company to go on an expedition into Indiana territory. Should they not return, their shares of their father's estate would go to their brother Johan. 4. Martin Rohrer 5. Elizabaeth Rohrer m 7 Nov 1800 to Jacob Hoover and (2) to Simeon Thomas on 1 Oct 1845. The first marriage bond was by Jacob Rohrer. 6. Abraham Rohrer 7. Jacob b 1750-55 8. John Rohrer 9. Ann (Nancy) b. abt 1750 If you do a search on www.familytreemaker.com for Hans Michael Rohrer you will come up with a lot of things and bifurcations on the trees. I type much better in the morning and will look and see how that last stuff looks or if it came out all right. Pamela

Margie: Is that truly all you knew? Well here goes: Henry Rohrer m. Magdalena Huber (daughter of Jacob Huber and Ann Good) d.1832 Henry died in 1820, Jessamine Co, Ky. marguerite Dillman's records whow wife's name as Magadalena Hoover. Caroline Butterfield says moved from mD to Jessamine Co, Ky about 1795. ( I assume these are people who supplied the author with family notes.) Issue: 1. Samuel b.5 Jan 1793 2. John, b. 1805 3. Henry Rohrer 4. Peter Rohrer, m. 15 April Rachel Brunton (d/o William Brunton) marriage bond by Henry Rohrer. Charles W. Davenport and consent by William Brunton (her fathere) . Another records shows nancy as wife. 5. Christopher, b. 4 Aug 1800 6. Nancy Rohrer 7. Jonas Rohrer m. Elizabeth Wise Marriage bond was by Charles Mural. 8. Elizabeth "Betsey" Rohrer m. 19 oct 1814 Jacob Bowman 9. Jacob b. 15 Oct 1797 I will put samuel on next e-mail as this will not cooperate. pamela Then _________________________________________________________________________ This mail sent via toadmail.com, web e-mail @ ToadNet - want to go fast? http://www.toadmail.com

Dear Pamela, My great grandmother was Louisa RHORER Barclay b. 1841 d. 1918, her parents were Jonas Huber Rhorer b. 1814 in Jessamine and Julia Riffetts Comley, Jonas' father was Samuel Rhorer. I know very little about the Rhorers other than what is written above. Any additonal information would be a real find! Margie Barclay in NYC

Fayette County Marriage Records According to one of my source books, the County Clerk of Fayette County has marriages from 1795, however, another source told me that the records may have burned in 1803, so I don’t know just who to believe. I have found information on Fayette County marriages in the following sources: Fayette County Kentucky Records Vol. 3 Michael L. Cook, C. G. Bettie A. Cummings Cook, C. G. Cook Publications 3318 Winberg Ave. Evansville, Ind. 47712 (There are a number of volumes in this series that contain a lot of different kinds of information) Kentucky Marriages 1801 - 1825 by Liakona Research Heritage Quest Bountiful, Utah 1999 I think there may have also been another volume which contained marriages for prior years, but I don’t have it listed in my notes, so I am not sure if this is the source or one of the other sources listed in this message.) Marriage Records of Fayette Co., Kentucky 1803 - 1809 Volume I Elizabeth Prather Ellsberry Box 206 Chillicothe, Missouri I hope this information is of some help to some of you out there. Joseph W. Miller josmill@swbell.net

Sorry but I did not find anything by the surname of Gutzeit. Pamela _________________________________________________________________________ This mail sent via toadmail.com, web e-mail @ ToadNet - want to go fast? http://www.toadmail.com

Thanks, I am willing to try any new lead. Bonnie -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Zull <pamela@toad.net> To: KYFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com <KYFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 10:18 PM Subject: [KYFAYETT] Reed marriage >This might be what you want: > >William Reed m. Sally A. Higbee on 06 November 1845 > >Pamela > > >==== KYFAYETT Mailing List ==== >You can contact the listowner (that's me, Christine!) at >Xinegirl@gateway.net with any questions or problems. > > >============================== >Visit ROOTS-L, the Internet's oldest and largest genealogical >mailing list: >http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/

Would you please look and see if you can find Francis Downing in your 1790 census of Fayette? And also Powhatan or "Puck" Downing. Sue ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Pamela, Thanks for your offer to do marriage lookups. I'd like some help on a lookup for August Gutzeit and Mary "?". Tom O'Brien Oregon City, OR 97045 obone@gte.net Searching for BUNNEY, BURNS, CALLAHAN, O'CONNOR, DUNN, FLYNN, GUTZEIT, HAUSMAN, LITTEREST, MATTHEWS, MC KENNA, MEYER, MULLEN, NASTOLD, NAUT, NIEHAN, O'BRIEN, O'DONNEL, RUEVE, SCHERER, SCHINDLER, SCHOENY, SMITH, TAYLOR

Christine, would you please check for the CHARLES surname. Thanks, Mollie Charles Pawlik Texas

This might be what you want: William Reed m. Sally A. Higbee on 06 November 1845 Pamela