*Duncan Tavern and John Fox, Jr. Genealogical Library will close October 31 and not open until April 1, 2001* The Tavern, built in 1788 and now headquarters of the Kentucky Society Daughters of the American Revolution, received two grants for renovation. The first grant for $200,000 will be used to repair roof, gutters, downspouts and foundation. The second grant for $100,000 is for electrical wiring, plumbing and plastering. Both grants are on the 80% - 20% basis. Because of some demolishing and extense repair, the adjoining John Fox, Jr. Library will also be closed. If all goes on schedule, both will reopen April 1, 2001. Board members ask for understanding and patience from the public. Kenney Roseberry, Chairperson John Fox, Jr. Library

Christine, You are right, I do wish sometimes that my family had a convoluted name, negative in everyday life but great for genealogy. Thanks very much. Hank Rice

RICE in the 1820 census index: name county page Abraham FTE 94 Allen LVG 2 Ann CHN 40 Archibald GNP 176A Aron FLG 42A Bavil FKN 154 Ben. GRD 121A Benj. G. LVG 2 Benjamin FTE 93 Benjamin CBL 9A Benjm. GRN 57 Caleb FTE 95 Campbell BTH 198 Charles LNC 75 Charles HRL 118 Charles SHE 169 Charles BTH 198 Claiborne MBG 143 Coonrod FLD 39 David GRN 69 David WDF 97 David CLY 128 David HRY 200 David MTG 261 David, Sr. MTG 241 David M. CSY 222 Delilah CBL 9A Edmond JEF 46 Edmund UNN 154 Elias HRD 68 Elijah GND 165A Ezekiel BNE 32 Ezekiel MBG 133A Ezekiel GNP 176A Francis LGN 44 Fredk. FLG 46A Gabriel MER 116 Gabriel GRD 121A George MER 107 George BRK 285 George GNP 176A Henry BTH 178 Hiram NCH 114A Holeman BTH 198 Holeman, Sr. BTH 190 Hudson BKN 6 Isaac I./J.? MAD 128 J./I.? H. CHN 46 Jacob JES 83 Jacob JES 91 Jacob SHE 160 Jacob GRD 106A James LVG 10 James BKN 20 James LGN 44 James MAD 148 James BTH 202 James MTG 241 James WYN 84A James MBG 143A Jas. H. LVG 3 Jasper JES 75 Jefferson JES 69 Jeremiah LGN 47 Jesse SHE 150 Jessee MBG 143 Jessee H. MBG 141 Joel BNE 32 John FLD 38 John CLK 78 John JES 82 John MER 107 John SHE 150 John HRY 198 John BTL 329 John, Jr. HRY 228 John FLG 45A John SHE 113A John V. BKN 13 Jonath. HRY 244 Jonathan LGN 29 Joseph JES 82 Joshua BNE 32 Levi HRD 92 Lucy MER 116 Martin FLD 35 Mary GRD 104A Matthew LNC 75 Michael, Jr. JES 82 Michael, Sr. JES 82 Morris LGN 39 Nancy MER 107 Patrick H. LVG 3 Phillip R. BKN 20 Phinias G. MER 116 Polly BBN 124 Polly MTG 261 Randolph GRN 70 Richd. GRN 70 Rowlett SHE 170 Sally FLG 43A Saml. BKN 6 Samuel FLD 35 Samuel JES 77 Samuel MBG 143 Samuel HRY 198 Samuel L. BRK 289 Sarah MAD 148 Shelton MTG 287 Simon PND 29A Thomas BRK 289 Thomas WYN 83A William LVG 2 William BNE 32 William LNC 63 William JES 79 William FTE 109 William MBG 141 William SHE 174 William HOP 262 William CBL 8A William WYN 80A William WDF 95A William NCH 116A William B. CSY 212 William G. BTH 212 Wm. HRY 254 Wm. FLG 45A Wm. FLG 68A Wm. HRY 256 Wm. HRY 244 RICE? Abram GNP 176A Elias GRN 75 Joseph SCT 93A Lucy CLK 66 County name abbreviation Adair ADR (ADC is Columbia city in Adair) Allen ALN Barren BRN Bath BTH Boone BNE Bourbon BBN Bracken BKN Breckinridge BRK Bullitt BLT Butler BTL Caldwell CWL Campbell CBL Casey CSY Christian CHN Clark CLK Clay CLY Cumberland CLD Daviess DVS Estill ETL Fayette FTE Fleming FLG Floyd FLD Franklin FKN Gallatin GTN Garrard GRD Grant GRT Grayson GSN Green GRN Greenup GNP Hardin HRD Harlan HRL Harrison HAR Hart HRT Henderson HND Henry HRY Hopkins HOP Jefferson JEF Jessamine JES Knox KNX Lewis LWS Lincoln LNC Livingston LVG Logan LGN Madison MAD Mason MAS Mercer MER Monroe MNR Montgomery MTG Muhlenberg MBG Nelson NSN Nicholas NCL Ohio OHO Owen OWN Pendleton PND Pulaski PUL Rockcastle RCK Scott SCT Shelby SHE Simpson SPN Todd TOD Trigg TRG Union UNN Warren WRN Washington WAS Wayne WYN Whitley WTY Woodford WDF

My John Carter Jr,born 1-2-1813, has been my BRICK WALL for about 30 years... He married somewhere in Ky, or Indiana about 1828-1830, an Eliza NUTTERFIELD/NUTTERFEE... He had a Brother JOB/JOBE who was deaf... Have been looking for his father for 30+ years...He was my gg grandfather. Any help would be appreciated...Eliza, I believe, was born in Shelby Ky,daughter of George and Nancy McWilliams NUTTERFIELD, But, who knows...One of my correspondants jokingly, I think, suggested that he, along with her John Carter, were deposited here as adults, with no ancestors, from an alien planet... I am not sure I go along with that, But, it is a better theory than I have been able to come up with... It would explain a lot... Dick Carter rcar37@prodigy.net

Hello, Thank you so much... I'm sure you must be overwhelmed at this point, but you are so kind to offer the service. To add to your workload, I would appreciate any information you can forward on the name: (will take any and all spellings) Pritchart, Pritchett, Pritchard, Pritcher, Pickett. Thank you Anne Rupert Tracking down elusive William Pritchart

Hi Christine, Do you have a listing for Hockersmith or Hockensmith? Thanks, Jana P.S. You're doing a great job!

RICE in the 1790 census index: name county tax list date Benjamin MERCER 3/20/1789 Bevel MASON 1790 Charles FAYETTE 12/4/1789 Charles FAYETTE 1/11/1790 David MADISON 4/28/1789 Edmund JEFFERSON 6/15/1790 Edward JEFFERSON 6/ /1789 Frederick FAYETTE 2/26/1790 James MERCER 3/17/1789 Jane FAYETTE 12/5/1789 John FAYETTE 1/11/1790 Joseph MADISON 4/28/1789 Nathan MERCER 3/17/1789 Richard FAYETTE 2/26/1790 Samuel FAYETTE 2/26/2790 Samuel MADISON 4/7/1789 Wm. FAYETTE 6/3/1789 Wm. FAYETTE 12/5/1789 Wm. FAYETTE 1/11/1790 William JEFFERSON 8/20/1789

1790 census index HARTs: name county tax list date HART, George NELSON 12/3/1792 HART, Josiah BOURBON 3/ /1791 HART, Matthews MASON 8/21/1790 HART, Nicholas BOURBON 3/ /1791 HEART, John FAYETTE 1/11/1790 HEART, Josiah FAYETTE 1/11/1790 HEART, Leonard FAYETTE 1/11/1790

Thank you!! Charlotte ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 7:51 PM To: KYFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYFAYETT] 1790 census index HART 1790 census index HARTs:___________________________________________________________ Get more from your time online. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Christine asked me to report how I made out with Transylvania University. I telephoned and the switchboard directed me to their Special Collections Librarian who was not in at the moment but the woman I spoke with was extremely helpful. I have ordered a book through interlibrary loan. In addition, I plan to write to the Special Collections Librarian. Nancy Johnson also contacted me with specific information regarding the College of the Bible which is now the Lexington Theological Seminary. Thus, I'm on my way. Thanks to all. Penny Hartzell 49 Woodbury Hill Woodbury, CT 06798

Hi, Christine~ How about Bosworth - Chesher - McKinney ? In both Census' Thanks Ella in Michigan

Hey folks! Sheesh, doesn't anybody have any nice unusual names (like PIATT or TANGEMAN) for me to look up??? ;) Actually, I suppose those are the ones that stand out...it's those of looking for JONES & ROBERTSON who need every single clue... Here is the list I am working on (in the order I will get to them, please be patient--unless someone wants to write my paper analyzing information sources and services in science and technology??? No takers? Darn.) HART (in the 1790) RICE WILLIAMS GRANT GREER BARCLAY (1820) RHORER (1820) HICKS STONE CHARLES DOWNING JONES ANDREWS Any other takers? I'll get to these as soon as I can--should have some time this weekend! Thanks and good luck, Christine

Hello Christine Thank you for generous offer to do lookups. I am searching two Fayette Co. families 1790 and 1820 JONES and ANDREWS Thank you in advance Marty Burkhart-Poe

Christine...many many thanks for doing this...but I suspect you'd do a better job on that paper...<g>....Charlotte ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 8:40 PM To: KYFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYFAYETT] 1790 & 1820 census index look ups Hey folks! Sheesh, doesn't anybody have any nice unusual names (like PIATT or TANGEMAN) for me to look up??? ;) Actually, I suppose those are the ones that stand out...it's those of looking for JONES & ROBERTSON who need every single clue... Here is the list I am working on (in the order I will get to them, please be patient--unless someone wants to write my paper analyzing information sources and services in science and technology??? No takers? Darn.) HART (in the 1790) RICE WILLIAMS GRANT GREER BARCLAY (1820) RHORER (1820) HICKS STONE CHARLES DOWNING JONES ANDREWS Any other takers? I'll get to these as soon as I can--should have some time this weekend! Thanks and good luck, Christine ==== KYFAYETT Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a message with only the word 'unsubscribe' to KYFAYETT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or KYFAYETT-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM, depending if you receive 'list mode' or 'digest mode'. Thanks! ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the No. 1 Source for Family History Online. Search over 600 MILLION NAMES and trace your family tree today. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB___________________________________________________________ Get more from your time online. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Hi list- I found a site: www.ancientfaces.com it has a lot of old photos....thought the list might be interested. I think there are a couple hundred surnames on the site; maybe someone can make a connection.... Pamela

Hello Penny, If your Dr. McGarvey was connected with the College of the Bible, you might want to check their records with their librarian and their registrar. The name has been changed from College of the Bible to Lexington Theological Seminary. The librarian's name is Dr. Phil Dare. His e-mail is pdare@lextheo.edu. The seminary address is 631 South Limestone, Lex, KY 40508. I would imagine that old records for College of the Bible would be stored in the vault. The name was changed in the 50s, and old graduates were given the option of receiving "updated" diplomas saying LTS rather than COB. I would start with Phil, and if that is not the correct place, then Rachel Childress (rchildress@lextheo.edu), the registrar would be the next stop. I know there are privacy issues with regard to recent and current students, but for genealogical research, it may be different. John W. McGarvey was the president/co-founder of College of the Bible. There is a ton of information available about him. One source would be "Journey in Faith: A History of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) by McAllister and Tucker, St. Louis: Chalice Press. I would suggest contacting Chalice Press to see what they have available, but also an interlibrary loan from the Seminary through any University or public library should work as well. The McAllister and Tucker work has 8 references with multiple pages to some of the references. McGarvey research should be no problem at all. The LTS web site is http:/www.lextheo.edu. From there you can get to the library, bookstore, etc. Good luck, Nancy Foley Johnson Lexington, KY

Looking for info on W.H.Flack born in ohio abt.1849 died in ohio ? married Susan Hatton Born 1850 in Ky. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Thank you, Margie. You might check with Presbyterian Church Historian, Frederick J. Heuser, Jr. in the Louisville office of the Presbyterian Church (USA). All I can do is give you the number (215) 627-1852. A quick phone call might get you an email addy or an address to write to. Good Luck! Shirl ----- Original Message ----- From: BarclayMA@aol.com To: KYFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [KYFAYETT]Pewee Valley Presby Church and other churches Dear Shirl, 1. I find no Turners or Stewarts among the members of the church. 2. The Session Minute Book I found on microfilm (that is, ordered from Salt Lake City) at my Family History Library and was surprised and delighted to find the first years were in my greatgrandfather Thomas Philander BARCLAY's handwriting (he was the clerk). I photocopied just about the entire book. 3. Thomas Philander BARCLAY was one of the founders and trnasfered from "the Bowling Green Church." In 1872 he transfered to the Fourth Church in Louisville and returned to Pewee Valley in 1877. does anyone know of these churches and where the records for that period might be? 4. Pewee Valley is in OLDHAM COUNTY but close to Louisville. Margie in New York City ==== KYFAYETT Mailing List ==== Remember, just because you found it online doesn't mean it's accurate! Check and recheck the details! ============================== Search over 64,000,000 records in the Social Security Death Index: http://ssdi.rootsweb.com

Dear Shirl, 1. I find no Turners or Stewarts among the members of the church. 2. The Session Minute Book I found on microfilm (that is, ordered from Salt Lake City) at my Family History Library and was surprised and delighted to find the first years were in my greatgrandfather Thomas Philander BARCLAY's handwriting (he was the clerk). I photocopied just about the entire book. 3. Thomas Philander BARCLAY was one of the founders and trnasfered from "the Bowling Green Church." In 1872 he transfered to the Fourth Church in Louisville and returned to Pewee Valley in 1877. does anyone know of these churches and where the records for that period might be? 4. Pewee Valley is in OLDHAM COUNTY but close to Louisville. Margie in New York City

I've read it many times. LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SPELLINGS and there was my brick wall for the Rhorer family. Thanks to you, Pamela, I've broken through and I'm going to take a careful look at all the names I am researching... I also found the book The Rohrer Families in the New York Public Library - Genealogy Division. I'll be down there later this week! Margie