Hey there, Benttree: I do believe you have them. Ethel was the mother of my father-in-law, b. 1903, and his older brother, b. abt. 1900. I made a mistake. Ethel's grandparents - not her parents - were married in 1853. They were Isaac Holtzclaw and Elizabeth Hogue. Their daughter, Marium "Maymie" HOLTZCLAW, whom my wife remembers as "Ma Tharp," married Samuel SOLOMON/SOLOMAN, and they were the parents of Ethel Elizabeth SOLOMON/SOLOMAN, who married Pius Napoleon SMITH. All this in the Louisville or Jefferson County area.Thanks for your information and correction. Cookie, in Florida < GreystokeB@aol.com >