SEVERAL OF CHILDREN OF DANIEL AND JANE [SMEATHERS] GRASS WE NEED MORE INFO ON.... From: coopville@webtv.net 15 Feb 2003-Gee, might be on a wild goose chase but just hit a Albrech Graff 1718 -1761 --could be where our Alfred comes in---father a Jakob Graff--believe to come here 1732 on ship Pink Plaisance---Looking for more---this in P A !!! don't know if I mailed this or not but found this in just two generations " Henry Graff a Swiss who m a German gal "in this Henry's first marriage children went by Graff---second marriage by Graaf "Henry's father went by name of Groff !! I really think our Daniel Grass was b in PA-above info and pieces from misc. PA charts---again those old letters written to John Grass state they they thought the Grass family Swiss & German ? Oh, and by the way, don't have to tell you what half the first names of these children were either>Coop From: "ED Wilson" ed.wilson@attbi.com 12-12-2002-ONE OF THE REASONS I ASKED RE JANE-SIBLINGS ETC IS--DIGGING THRU BOX OF PAPER--RAN ACROSS E-MAIL(THINK YOU SENT) FROM DEBBIE LANGTON--9-28-2000 ON MSN-- 1850 SPENCER COUNTY CENSUS--SHOWED JANE GRASS--AGE 71 BEING BORN IN VA--ALSO HAVE COPY OF THE (GUESS BITS AND PIECES FROM BACK THEN)--THE NELSON COUNTY PIONEER--BARDSTOWN KY--ONE -SUMMER OF 1977 WHICH HAS HENRY GRASS IN 1785 BEING ON THE LIST OF--TITHABLES IN SEVERNS VALLEY & HARDINS SETTLTMENT--THEN ANOTHER ISSUE--WINTER 1778 HAS EXTENSIVE ARTICLE ON--INDIAN DEPREDATIONS IN KENTUCKY--STATED THAT--ESTIMATED IN THE YR 1780-3OO BOATLOADS OF IMMIGRANTS INTO THE LOUIVIILE AREA AND LATER ON COVERS SOME ACTIVITY IN NELSON COUNTY--NE OF BARDSTOWN--GOES ON RE LOSS OF LIFE ETC--AND THAT CAPTIVES WERE TAKEN AND NO COMPLETE RECORD OF WHO WAS KILLED-CAPTURED ETC--AND HAVE A LTR FROM A GEORGE M HARDING BARDSTOWN KY TO MY SIS PAT--7-8-80 IN WHICH HE ALLUDES TO INDIAN ATTACKS IN THE AREA THAT LATER BECAME HARDIN COUNTY IN 1782--WHERE I'AM HEADED IS PUTTING THE GRASSES (NOT SURE WHO) AND OTHER FAMILIES--EG--SMOTHERS-SYNDER--IN VA SOMETIME IN THE 1780 TIME FRAME AND SPIN BOTH WAYS TO SEE WHAT SHAKES OUT AS-GOOD OLE DAN AND OR HIS FAMILY GOT TO KENTUCKY FROM SOMEWHERE AND LOOKING AT THE MAPS OF THAT TIME--THEY PROBALY CAME FROM THE EAST--OVER THE MTNS FROM VA OR THRU THE MTNS TO RIVERS(PENN EG) THEN VIA THE OHIO TO LOUISVILLE-THEN INLAND--AND CONSISTENT WITH MIGRATIONS--VERY SELDOM DID THEY COME BY THEMSELVES-GENERALLY GROUPS-INTERRELATED-AND NENA YOU MENTIONED THE GRASSES OF VA AND TRYING TO TIE THEM TO DAN--SO MAYBE HENRY IS A CUZ OR UNCLE TO DAN AS HAVE NOTES WHERE HE LIVED WITH DAN AROUND 1800--THIS SUPPORTS THE NELSON COUNTY PIONEER --BARDSTOWN -WINTER 1978--FRONT PG I FWDED RE 300 BOATLOADS OF IMMIGRANTS DISEMBARKED AT LOUISVILLE IN 1780--RE THE DAN ET AL ARRIVING IN KY? IN THAT A ROAD OR ROUTE EXISTED BETWEEN LOUISVILLE AND BARDSTOWN. Fr:Gayle Gayle.Alvis@kdla.net - 12-26-2002- It is my GUESS that Bardstown Pike was originally the Louisville to Bardstown Turnpike. It is probably very close to the current Bardstown Road from Louisville that is US 31E (the old Dixie Highway East). This is only a supposition from documents I've found on the internet about Civil War action in that area and other incidental information from materials in our collection. It passes through Fern Creek, Mount Washington and on to Bardstown. [original question]- Does anyone know abt a Bardstown Pike? I am not sure abt John Ash,thinking he might be related to some of the Ash gals that md into the Ashby family & Coombs/Combs. Wonder what the name of this stockade was outside Bardstown? And what was Salem Central ? a town ....and Breshears or Brashers, Kandy Kramer JHarris578@aol.com DAWSON/GRASS/GREATHOUSE/HYNES/KRAMER/SMITHERS Daniel GRASS m Jane SMEATHERS Daviess County, KY (across the river from Rockport) and soon after located on land near the present site of Rockport. He later settled on a farm near the line of the township which now bears his name. He was a member of the In Legislature, and Judge of the Co Court for a number of years. He had a dau Elizabeth GRASS b Ky Dec 22 1803. Judge GRASS's parents were murdered and his sisters captured and killed by the Indians in Ky. After he was left an orphan, he lived with William R. HYNES in Nelson Co Ky, and may have come to Spencer Co. to attend to the possessions of HYNES, who was a large land owner here. Daniel's grandson was James SMITHERS GREATHOUSE b May 13 1833. I am from Grass Township in Spencer Co IN--KRAMER and DAWSON families. Kandy Kramer JHarris578@aol.com [CANT GET AHOLD OF THIS GAL, EMAIL DOES NOT WORK] "Read at Poseyville by Mrs. Galder Erhman, September 28, 1920." Daniel Grass, lone survivor of his family, who had been killed in Kentucky, was taken into the home of Dr. William R. Hynes, of Bardstown, Kentucky. He married Jane Smeathers from the settlement of Yellow Banks and tradition tells us that he came here in the interest of Dr. Hynes. This seems to be true because of the various land transactions. On May 9, 1807, Daniel Grass made the first land entry on the territory where Rockport now stands. Sometime later he built a log house south of Rockport and moved his family and became the first permanent settler. He changed the name to Mt. Duvall, in honor of Col Wm Duvall, a Ky friend. On March 11, 1808, William Berry bought land on the river below Grass and lived on his houseboat with is family until a cabin in the woods could be constructed. Daniel Grass later became the first County Agent and Berry became Judge of the Northwest Territory. [is this Berry related to our Berry that md Janes sister, Betsy Smeathers?] ~~~~~~~~~ ~~DESCENDANTS OF JUDGE DANIEL GRASS & JANE SMEATHERS~~ 1=Jane Smeathers/Daniel Grafs [Grass] 2=7 children of Jane/Daniel 3=17 children of lst child of Jane/Daniel-Alfred H.Grass sr m Susan Snyder 1 Jane Smeathers/Daniel Grafs M Feb 5 1800 [had 7 kids] Jane B 1779 D 1867 Spencer Co In Daniel B abt 1775 D May 25 1836 In NOTE: copy of hand written marriage bond spells Grass-GRAFS and bond is signed by Daniel GRAFS and Wm SMEATHERS. Wife's name is undreadable, presumed to be Jane. Wm Smeathers presumed father of Jane Smeathers. 1820 Census Jane Smeathers Grass born 1775-1794 1830 Census Jane Smeathers Grass born 1770-1780 1830 Spencer co Census-Daniel Grass Ohio Township 1830 Spencer County Census-Spelling on list or anyway it looks like Grafs (old english spelling) Alfred is also listed. Jane listed as being 50-60 no mention of James Smeathers, the nephew/son of Mary Smeathers or where he is located. 1840 Census Jane Smeathers Grass born 1770-1780 1850 Census Jane Smeathers Grass listed as 71 born VA 1779 801 58B GRASS JAM/JANE 71 M VA OHIO TP b 1779 Va 801 58B GRASS GARRET J 34 M CONSTABLER 1300 IN OHIO TP b 1816 In -Garret Joab 801 58B GRASS JAS S 30 M FARMER IN OHIO TP b 1820 In -James Smithers Grass 801 58B HUNTER MARTHA 21 F KY X OHIO TP b 1829 KY - NO IDEA who she is....nurse?? 801 58B SMOTHERS JAMES 40 M NONE KY X IDIOTIC OHIO TP b 1810 KY [he belongs to Mary Smeathers, sis to Jane Smeathers Grass. Jane got custody upon Mary's death in 1846-hes prob the son that was b 1810 when Mary got raped 1809 at her father's Yellowbanks cabin] 1860 Census Jane Smeathers Grass listed as 81 born VA 1779 Jane Grass listed as 81 born VA James Grass listed as 40 born IN her son-James Smithers Grass Futura Grass listed as 33 KY his wife -Futura Howard Robert Grass listed as 4 born IN their two children Ann M. listed as 11/12 born IN CHILDREN OF DANIEL GRASS AND JANE SMEATHERS 1- Alfred Hynes Grass sr B Feb 13 1801 D Dec 30 1856 l+1 Jane Brady B Abt 1801 [not proven] +2 Susan Snyder M Oct 5 1823 [had 17 kids] B Mar 13 1808 D Feb 18 1877 KS Dau/of Samuel Snyder b c1770 Va d 1839 Lawrence Co IL md Sarah Brady Jul 22 1791 Nelson Co Ky. http://genforum.genealogy.com/brady/messages/1225.html 2-Elizabeth Grass B Dec 22 1803 Ky D April 18 1878 In [12 kids] + John Buche Greathouse M Sep 20 1821 Spencer Co In B Feb 12 1797 Deatsville Nelson Co KY D May 2 1857 3- 2 Joseph Grass B Abt 1805 D Unknown [NEED MORE INFO] NOTE: Dr never m. Bur Old Rockport IN cem behind Rockport Mid School with his father Daniel and mother Jane, but his stone is gone. 4-Daniel Grass Jr B 1805 D by 1850 [NEED MORE INFO] + Martha Roberts md Apr 10 1845 B Dec 1822 d Feb 1 1886 NOTE:Martha Roberts dau/o B Willis Roberts/Rosanna Duncan 3 Rosa J Grass b 1847 IO NOTE: Daniel/Martha went to Iowa 5-Margaret Grass B Abt 1810 D Unknown [NEED MORE INFO ON HER] + Daniel Brown B Abt 1810 NOTE:At Daniel Grass death-"I have sold unto Daniel Brown a gang of hogs for $15.00 them being the same hogs that I could not get to public sale of Daniel Grafs dec'd Feb 1837--Signed Jane Grafs-- Daniel Brown married Margaret GROSS 6/7 1830 Spencer Co In---marriage on same page as our Greathouse, Snyder etc.--Coop-5/2002 Fr Ed Wilson-from the liily library-re daniel brown & jane grafs--1) from 6-11-1836 2) estate sale item-- Oliver Brown @ same sale 3) 11-15-1836--$ 4.25 rec'd from jane grafs --balance on acct--daniel brown-- 4) from brown and crawford (think they were handling part of estate disposition) rec'd --long list of items on account of jane grafs--not sure of mo--but 17th--1836 6-Garrett Joab Grass B 1816 D Apr 7 1855 ARKANSAS [NEED MORE INFO ON HIM] NOTE: Received land grant from Pres. Martin Van Buren 10-1-1840 for 40ac in Spencer Co.,In. Garrett J. Grass 40 Acres 1 SWSE 32/ 6-S 6-W No 2nd PM IN SPENCER 10/01/1840 Have copy of a letter Garrett Joab Grass wrote fr Arkansas to Simeon Rasor submitted by Rasor's gg granddau Joan Hall Shelton, Owensboro Ky to Spencer Co In Hist Society. Its written by him from Big Creek, ARK Oct 18, 1853...2 yrs bef he died. Simeon Razor 1787-1864 son of Peter and Frances Adair Rasor was a farmer and cooper, as was his father, who settled northwest of Rockport. He md Nov 10 1813 Mary Ann Polly Allensworth 1792-1869. Children referred to in letter John W.,George, James Monroe, Deborah, Simeon jr, Andrew Jackson, Calvin, William and David. Deborah m Samuel Cowen and moved to Tyler,Tx. 1850 Spencer co census Garret listed as 34y with 1300 acres and is a Constabler living w/his mother Jane, bro James Smithers Grass. 7-James Smeathers Grass B 1818 [2kids] + Futura Howard B Abt 1820 NOTE:Fr glorecords.gov-JAMES S GRASS Document #: 21727 Issue Aug 1 1839 Acres: 80 1 EœSE 5/ 7-S 6-W No 2nd PM IN SPENCER -James S. Grass 40A. 1 NWSE 5/ 7-S 6-W No 2nd PM IN SPENCER 10/01/1840 JANE SMEATHERS GRASS WILL 1867 -According to will (in my possession) Jane died in 1867 however I've seen 1869 on some researchers data. Jane had 7 children James, Garrett, Daniel, Elizabeth, and Susan, Alfred and Joseph. She only listed James her son in her will dated 29th day of December 1857 NOTE:when Daniel died 1837-his wife Jane Smeathers Grass was Admin for estate-signed Grafs-Rockport May 20-Rec'd fr Jane Grafs $6.75 for visits last sickness--Stephen I Giffma? Coop-5/2002 Fr Betty- BLMcCsky@aol.com -"Daniel Grass Spencer Co In Vol 11 Old Rockport Cem says Daniel Grass no dates-Lt Indiana Mil War 1812; Jane his wife b c1783; Joseph-son no dates. All buried Old Rockport Cem. The hanging rock land known to Boatman on Ohio as Lady Washington Rock-land original purchased fr gov by Daniel Grass May 9 1807. Daniel Grass first white man in territory-parents killed by Indians. **He escaped death by being in the fort.** Dr. Hinds residing Nelson Co Ky reared him to manhood-came here entered land for Dr Hinds. Later m Jane Smithers at YellowBanks (Owensboro)-lived on bluff So Rockport. Daniel was 1st Judge and 1st Rep to Congress. His oldest dau Elizabeth was given in marriage to Jonathan Buche Greathouse was a tanner." Title The Hon. Daniel Grass Stmnt. Resp. by Laura Mercy Wright [dau/o John Wright/Margaret Greathouse-she dau/o Eliz Grass/John B Greathouse-she dau/o Daniel Grass/Jane Smeathers] Authors Wright, Laura Mercy (Main Author) Grass, Daniel, d. 1837 (Subject)Notes Microfilm of typescript (photocopy, [8] leaves) at the Willard Library, Evansville, Indiana. Film restricted because of items 24. Fr:< mtooth@bardstown.com > 6 Mar 2002-found article "A Hist of Owensboro/Daviess Co Ky" by Hugh O Potter copyright 1974 abt Daniel Grass-Abraham Lincoln helping to build flatboat at foot of Rockport bluff, lived at home of Alfred Grass, son of Daniel Grass who was Leading early resident of Rockport. Daniel m Jane Smeathers oldest dau/Bill Smeathers-early 1800's. Only record of Grass Nelson Co is Henry Grass 1785. Nelson Co covered large area 1780's. Henry mentioned several different times leads one to think had property in diff areas-Found Wm R Hynes and Wm K Hynes dau's m 1826/1829. Believe Hynes very much part of Bardstown. Talbott Tav Inn historic land mark owned by Hynes family or their home was part of. Several refer hyphen "Hynes-Talbott". NOTE--from Trinty's Evangeical Church History records---Daniel Grass and his family were first settlers at present site of Rockport Indiana in 1807, Spencer County origanized in 1814--Grandview settled in 1808--George Huffman mill in 1812----this article about German settlers and most were considered German Lutherans. NOTE--Evansville Courier , July 4th 1936---furniture in the Daniel Grass home has been presented by desc of the Grass family and placed in the log cabin at Rockport---( now I wonder who this might have been ) ?? NOTE--- Warrick County Records --Daniel Grass born March 27th , 1774 or 1780 or 1781 in Pa. or Ky. (how the heck did they get month and day and don't know year ?)--Cuz Coop _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail