This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CHEEK, ALLEN, SMITH, SHELLEY, BLAIR, STOCKTON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jAB.2ACI/1810.1.2 Message Board Post: Thanks, Jim, for sharing information linking ALLEN and CHEEK families in KY. After I read your exchanges with Robin Poindexter (nice to hear from you again, Robin; I had no valid e-mail address for you these past few months) my memory clicked and I recalled seeing a marriage record for Gallatia ALLEN in Clinton county. Sorry I did not note the exact date, but it was in 1873, book 3, page 453. She married John H CHEEK. I suppose he was related to the CHEEK families I research in Clinton county but I am not certain how. He could be the John CHEEK mentioned below whose parents were James A CHEEK and Mary GASKILL. The marriage entry gave his middle initial as H, and it looked like W to me in the 1850 census, but Jim Estes reported it as M in a tree he placed on Ancestry. It's easy to mistake those. That John CHEEK was born in NC about 1848, which makes him a good candidate for marriage in 1873. Candace ALLEN CHEEK certainly could also be related to Hinton ALLEN and his son (your great grandfather) Aaron Andrew ALLEN. Here are some Cheek census data. 1850 Clinton Co KY: (misindexed in Ancestry.com as "Malone Tuck"), Mabane Cheek (35,VA) laborer, Candis (25,VA), John (3,VA), Beaufort (2,VA), NOTE: married in NC and must have come to KY about 1849 1850 Clinton co KY (misindexed Ancestry.com as "James Suck"): James A. Cheek (29, NC) farmer, Mary Cheek (31, NC), Augustus W (7,NC), Mary E<C?> (3,NC), John W (2,NC), Willis Cheek (27,NC) laborer, Thomas Frost<?> (16,KY) laborer, twelve houses from Mabane Cheek 1860 Clinton Co KY: Maborn Cheek (44,NC) farmer, Candes (45,NC), John (14,NC), Bedford (11,NC), Jams (8,KY), Sarah C (7,KY) 1870 Albany, Clinton co KY: Candis Cleek (49,KY), Buford (20,KY) works on farm, James (17,KY), works on farm, Walter (16,KY) works on farm James A Cheek and Mary are probably Mayburn CHEEK's brother and sister-in-law. There is a marriage bond for James A Cheek and Mary L Gaskill, dated 04 Dec 1845 in Orange county, NC which could be theirs. I have not yet suceeded in locating an entry for that family in 1860; however, there is an 1864 marriage (book 1, page 331) for James A Cheek to Cynthia N STOCKTON, and I wonder if it is a remarriage for that same fellow. The census entries for Candace, all in Clinton co KY, can be used to estimate her birth date. The 1850 age of 25 for Candace may not be reliable, since whoever gave it (a neighbor, perhaps?) also thought the family were all born in VA. Based on the 1860 age of 45, and the 1870 age of 49, Candace was probably born in NC between 1815 and 1821. Lacking any better information I tend to favor the latter date. There is a marriage bond record for her (to Mebane Cheek) dated 18 Dec 1847 in Orange county, NC (an area of North Carolina that was thick with CHEEKs at that time). That would make her 26 then. A birth date of 1815 for her would instead make her 32 at marriage, which is possible but would make her a bit old for a woman beginning to have children back then. According to some researchers, that was Mayburn Cheek's second marriage. His name has been spelled a lot of ways, but the more reliable records (death certificate of his daughter, Charity CHEEK SHELLEY, and family! bible page of his son, James M CHEEK) have it spelled as Mayburn or Mayben. Mebane is the name of a town in the Orange county, NC area, so that might expain how the index entry for the marriage bond came to refer to him as Mebane CHEEK (handwriting was probably poor). With Hinton ALLEN born 1818 and Aaron in 1841, is it possible either could have been brother to Candace ALLEN?. The other ALLEN family I know of in connection with CHEEKs in Clinton co KY is that of Drury (Andrew) and Rebecca ALLEN, also of North Carolina. Robin has named Hinton as a child of Drury and Rebecca. Willis CHEEK, reputed by some to be brother to Mayburn CHEEK, apparently lived with that ALLEN family for more than two decades after they relocated to Clinton county. I cannot say just what relation Willis was to them. None of the ALLEN daughters was ever listed as CHEEK in the census, and I found no record of a marriage between them. The CHEEK family left few records in Clinton county, despite a long stay. The militia roll in 1861 included Willis CHEEK and an M CHEEK (Mayburn?). There are also a few marriage records in Clinton county with the CHEEK name. The only one I saw that mentions Willis CHEEK is actually the marriage of Rebecca ALLEN (daughter of Charity ALLEN), as follows (book 7, page 105): Thomas B Brown + Rebecca Allen, ceremony performed at Willis Cheek's place, 8 Mar 1885. That presumably was the farm Drury ALLEN left when he passed away. The marriage bond was filed 6 Mar, with Cynthia D Blair and C L <hard to read initials> Shelley as witnesses, ceremony performed by L. S. Shelley, min of MCCS. Cynthia was Cynthia D SMITH BLAIR, older sister to my wife's great grandmother Elizabeth Jane SMITH (who married Mayburn CHEEK's son, James M CHEEK in 1871). According to the 1880 census, Rebecca ALLEN would have been only 14 or 15 when married. That the marriage record refers to Willis Chee! k's place suggests, but does not prove, the old Mr. ALLEN was gone by then, that Willis was still around in 1885, and that he had perhaps acquired or inherited the ALLEN farm. I note, though, that the "Clinton County, Kentucky Census 1890" (reconstructed), 976.902 C641ce, available at the library in Frankfort had no mention of Willis CHEEK. Since that "census substitute" was constructed partly using property tax roles for the county, I suppose it could be no deed was ever filed for the property. Alexander B (Beaufort, Bedford or Buford) CHEEK (who married Emarine TUGGLE) is the only CHEEK mentioned in that reference. Emarine TUGGLE CHEEK and her son, Moses CHEEK, are the only CHEEKS for whom I found a death or burial record in the county. 1850 house 94, south district, Alamance co, NC: Drury Allen (60,NC) farmer, Rebecca (60,NC), Charity (20,NC), Rose (17), Susan (11) 1860 Clinton co KY: Drewry Allen (71,NC) farmer, Rebecca (71,NC), Charita A (23,NC) housework, Rosa A (25,NC) sewing, Willis Cheek (29,NC) farmer 1870 Clinton co KY: Drury Allen (76,NC) farmer, Rosa A (33,NC), Charity (30,NC) works at home, Rebecca E (7m,KY), John Dickerson (7,KY), Willis Cheek (41,NC) farmer 1880 Neathery and Shelley, Clinton co KY: Willis Cheek (45,NC NC,NC) farmer, Andrew Allen (90,NC, NC,NC) widower, Rosa (35,NC NCNC), Charity(33,NC NC,NC), Rebecca E (9,KY, not give,NC ), Sidney M (8,KY, not given,NC) These data indicate birth dates about 1789 for Drury ALLEN and his wife, Rebecca CHAMPION. In 1840 they would have been about 50 years old. Candace ALLEN should have been between 19 and 25 years old at that time. Do you have a proven or suspected 1840 census entry for the family of Hinton ALLEN? There are two Drury ALLEN records in NC in 1840, again in counties near Orange county (Person, Alamance, and Granville are all in that area). The one in Granville county has: male 50-59 years old, female 40-49 years old (plus one 70-79 years old), two male children 10-14 years of age, two female children 10-14 years old, and one female child 20-29 years old The other Drury ALLEN record is from Person county, and that family (which is next door to one headed by a Sarah ALLEN) has: male 50-59 years old, female 40-49 years old, one male child under 5, one male aged 10-14, two males aged 20-29 (Hinton ALLEN and <?> ALLEN?), one female child under 5 (Susan ALLEN?), one female aged 5-9 years (Rose ALLEN?), one female aged 15-19 (Charity ALLEN?), and one female aged 20-29 (Candace ALLEN?). Charity and Rose ALLEN aged very slowly once they reached adulthood, so the 1850 record is probably the most accurate indicator for calculating their birth dates. In 1840 Charity ALLEN should have been about 10, her sister Rose about 7, and her sister Susan about 1. The record from Person county seems to be the better fit for that information. The older ALLEN girl in the 1840 Person county record could be Candace ALLEN. Tthere were two males aged 20-29 in that record, and one of them could have been Hinton ALLEN. If it was so that Hinton and Candace ALLEN were brother and sister, then Willis CHEEK would I think have been the brother of Drury and Rebecca ALLEN's son-in-law, Mayburn CHEEK, and therefore also brother to Charity ALLEN's brother-in-law. That could explain his long residency at the Drury and Rebecca ALLEN farm. Also, if Charity ALLEN and Candace ALLEN were sisters, Candace ALLEN CHEEK might have named her daughter, Charity CHEEK SHELLEY, after her own sister, which is logical. I suppose to prove this someone must find reliable birth records from the counties in North Carolina. Do you know whether anyone in central NC has prepared a reference work similar in quality to the one Jack Ferguson did for Clinton county, KY? Kevin Kelly

Kevin; Thanks for the information. Until a couple of days ago I could only go back to Hinton and Harriet Weldon Allen in Granville, Co. N. C. and the only connection I had to Cheek was hearing my grandmother speakof her Aunt Glatia Cheek. I always assumed that the Cheek's had also relocated to the NW Arkansas area as my grandmother seemed to know her Aunt Glatia. I have not been able to find them on the census reports. Where doe's Candace show up on the record as Candace Allen? Like you, I kept wondering where does Willis Cheek fit in as he keeps showing up in the Allen Household. I have a lot of data down stream from Aaron Andrew but very little of his ancestors. Wish I could have been of more help to you. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <kelkev956@cs.com> To: <KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: [KYCLINTO] Re: CHEEK, SHELLEY, SMITH, ALLEN, Clinton co KY > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: CHEEK, ALLEN, SMITH, SHELLEY, BLAIR, STOCKTON > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jAB.2ACI/1810.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Thanks, Jim, for sharing information linking ALLEN and CHEEK families in > KY. After I read your exchanges with Robin Poindexter (nice to hear from > you again, Robin; I had no valid e-mail address for you these past few > months) my memory clicked and I recalled seeing a marriage record for > Gallatia ALLEN in Clinton county. Sorry I did not note the exact date, > but it was in 1873, book 3, page 453. She married John H CHEEK. I > suppose he was related to the CHEEK families I research in Clinton county > but I am not certain how. He could be the John CHEEK mentioned below > whose parents were James A CHEEK and Mary GASKILL. The marriage entry > gave his middle initial as H, and it looked like W to me in the 1850 > census, but Jim Estes reported it as M in a tree he placed on Ancestry. > It's easy to mistake those. That John CHEEK was born in NC about 1848, > which makes him a good candidate for marriage in 1873. > > Candace ALLEN CHEEK certainly could also be related to Hinton ALLEN and > his son (your great grandfather) Aaron Andrew ALLEN. Here are some Cheek > census data. > > 1850 Clinton Co KY: (misindexed in Ancestry.com as "Malone Tuck"), Mabane > Cheek (35,VA) laborer, Candis (25,VA), > John (3,VA), Beaufort (2,VA), NOTE: married in NC and must have come to > KY about 1849 > 1850 Clinton co KY (misindexed Ancestry.com as "James Suck"): James A. > Cheek (29, NC) farmer, Mary Cheek (31, NC), > Augustus W (7,NC), Mary E<C?> (3,NC), John W (2,NC), Willis Cheek > (27,NC) laborer, Thomas Frost<?> (16,KY) laborer, twelve houses from > Mabane Cheek > 1860 Clinton Co KY: Maborn Cheek (44,NC) farmer, Candes (45,NC), John > (14,NC), Bedford (11,NC), Jams (8,KY), Sarah C (7,KY) > 1870 Albany, Clinton co KY: Candis Cleek (49,KY), Buford (20,KY) works on > farm, James (17,KY), works on farm, Walter (16,KY) works on farm > > James A Cheek and Mary are probably Mayburn CHEEK's brother and > sister-in-law. There is a marriage bond for James A Cheek and Mary L > Gaskill, dated 04 Dec 1845 in Orange county, NC which could be theirs. I > have not yet suceeded in locating an entry for that family in 1860; > however, there is an 1864 marriage (book 1, page 331) for James A Cheek to > Cynthia N STOCKTON, and I wonder if it is a remarriage for that same > fellow. > > The census entries for Candace, all in Clinton co KY, can be used to > estimate her birth date. The 1850 age of 25 for Candace may not be > reliable, since whoever gave it (a neighbor, perhaps?) also thought the > family were all born in VA. Based on the 1860 age of 45, and the 1870 age > of 49, Candace was probably born in NC between 1815 and 1821. Lacking any > better information I tend to favor the latter date. There is a marriage > bond record for her (to Mebane Cheek) dated 18 Dec 1847 in Orange county, > NC (an area of North Carolina that was thick with CHEEKs at that time). > That would make her 26 then. A birth date of 1815 for her would instead > make her 32 at marriage, which is possible but would make her a bit old > for a woman beginning to have children back then. According to some > researchers, that was Mayburn Cheek's second marriage. His name has been > spelled a lot of ways, but the more reliable records (death certificate of > his daughter, Charity CHEEK SHELLEY, and family! > bible page of his son, James M CHEEK) have it spelled as Mayburn or > Mayben. Mebane is the name of a town in the Orange county, NC area, so > that might expain how the index entry for the marriage bond came to refer > to him as Mebane CHEEK (handwriting was probably poor). > > With Hinton ALLEN born 1818 and Aaron in 1841, is it possible either could > have been brother to Candace ALLEN?. The other ALLEN family I know of in > connection with CHEEKs in Clinton co KY is that of Drury (Andrew) and > Rebecca ALLEN, also of North Carolina. Robin has named Hinton as a child > of Drury and Rebecca. Willis CHEEK, reputed by some to be brother to > Mayburn CHEEK, apparently lived with that ALLEN family for more than two > decades after they relocated to Clinton county. I cannot say just what > relation Willis was to them. None of the ALLEN daughters was ever listed > as CHEEK in the census, and I found no record of a marriage between them. > > The CHEEK family left few records in Clinton county, despite a long stay. > The militia roll in 1861 included Willis CHEEK and an M CHEEK (Mayburn?). > There are also a few marriage records in Clinton county with the CHEEK > name. The only one I saw that mentions Willis CHEEK is actually the > marriage of Rebecca ALLEN (daughter of Charity ALLEN), as follows (book 7, > page 105): Thomas B Brown + Rebecca Allen, ceremony performed at Willis > Cheek's place, 8 Mar 1885. That presumably was the farm Drury ALLEN left > when he passed away. The marriage bond was filed 6 Mar, with Cynthia D > Blair and C L <hard to read initials> Shelley as witnesses, ceremony > performed by L. S. Shelley, min of MCCS. Cynthia was Cynthia D SMITH > BLAIR, older sister to my wife's great grandmother Elizabeth Jane SMITH > (who married Mayburn CHEEK's son, James M CHEEK in 1871). According to > the 1880 census, Rebecca ALLEN would have been only 14 or 15 when married. > That the marriage record refers to Willis Chee! > k's place suggests, but does not prove, the old Mr. ALLEN was gone by > then, that Willis was still around in 1885, and that he had perhaps > acquired or inherited the ALLEN farm. I note, though, that the "Clinton > County, Kentucky Census 1890" (reconstructed), 976.902 C641ce, available > at the library in Frankfort had no mention of Willis CHEEK. Since that > "census substitute" was constructed partly using property tax roles for > the county, I suppose it could be no deed was ever filed for the property. > Alexander B (Beaufort, Bedford or Buford) CHEEK (who married Emarine > TUGGLE) is the only CHEEK mentioned in that reference. Emarine TUGGLE > CHEEK and her son, Moses CHEEK, are the only CHEEKS for whom I found a > death or burial record in the county. > > 1850 house 94, south district, Alamance co, NC: Drury Allen (60,NC) > farmer, Rebecca (60,NC), Charity (20,NC), Rose (17), Susan (11) > 1860 Clinton co KY: Drewry Allen (71,NC) farmer, Rebecca (71,NC), Charita > A (23,NC) housework, Rosa A (25,NC) sewing, Willis Cheek (29,NC) farmer > 1870 Clinton co KY: Drury Allen (76,NC) farmer, Rosa A (33,NC), Charity > (30,NC) works at home, > Rebecca E (7m,KY), John Dickerson (7,KY), Willis Cheek (41,NC) farmer > 1880 Neathery and Shelley, Clinton co KY: Willis Cheek (45,NC NC,NC) > farmer, Andrew Allen (90,NC, NC,NC) widower, > Rosa (35,NC NCNC), Charity(33,NC NC,NC), Rebecca E (9,KY, not give,NC ), > Sidney M (8,KY, not given,NC) > > These data indicate birth dates about 1789 for Drury ALLEN and his wife, > Rebecca CHAMPION. In 1840 they would have been about 50 years old. > Candace ALLEN should have been between 19 and 25 years old at that time. > Do you have a proven or suspected 1840 census entry for the family of > Hinton ALLEN? There are two Drury ALLEN records in NC in 1840, again in > counties near Orange county (Person, Alamance, and Granville are all in > that area). > > The one in Granville county has: > male 50-59 years old, > female 40-49 years old (plus one 70-79 years old), > two male children 10-14 years of age, > two female children 10-14 years old, and > one female child 20-29 years old > > The other Drury ALLEN record is from Person county, and that family (which > is next door to one headed by a Sarah ALLEN) has: > male 50-59 years old, > female 40-49 years old, > one male child under 5, > one male aged 10-14, > two males aged 20-29 (Hinton ALLEN and <?> ALLEN?), > one female child under 5 (Susan ALLEN?), > one female aged 5-9 years (Rose ALLEN?), > one female aged 15-19 (Charity ALLEN?), and > one female aged 20-29 (Candace ALLEN?). > > Charity and Rose ALLEN aged very slowly once they reached adulthood, so > the 1850 record is probably the most accurate indicator for calculating > their birth dates. In 1840 Charity ALLEN should have been about 10, her > sister Rose about 7, and her sister Susan about 1. The record from Person > county seems to be the better fit for that information. The older ALLEN > girl in the 1840 Person county record could be Candace ALLEN. Tthere were > two males aged 20-29 in that record, and one of them could have been > Hinton ALLEN. > > If it was so that Hinton and Candace ALLEN were brother and sister, then > Willis CHEEK would I think have been the brother of Drury and Rebecca > ALLEN's son-in-law, Mayburn CHEEK, and therefore also brother to Charity > ALLEN's brother-in-law. That could explain his long residency at the > Drury and Rebecca ALLEN farm. Also, if Charity ALLEN and Candace ALLEN > were sisters, Candace ALLEN CHEEK might have named her daughter, Charity > CHEEK SHELLEY, after her own sister, which is logical. I suppose to prove > this someone must find reliable birth records from the counties in North > Carolina. Do you know whether anyone in central NC has prepared a > reference work similar in quality to the one Jack Ferguson did for Clinton > county, KY? > > Kevin Kelly > > > ==== KYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > All responses should be directed to the message poster, not to the > KYCLINTO list in general. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Kevin; Forget My Candace Allen question as I see you answered that on a prior posting. Greene Co. Mo. was mentioned in an earler post, Greene Co. is only about 65 miles north of where Aaron Andrew Allen settled in Boone, Co. Ar. Many famlies travelling from Ky and Tn into nw Arkansas during the mid 19th century travelled a route through Greene Co. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <kelkev956@cs.com> To: <KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: [KYCLINTO] Re: CHEEK, SHELLEY, SMITH, ALLEN, Clinton co KY > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: CHEEK, ALLEN, SMITH, SHELLEY, BLAIR, STOCKTON > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jAB.2ACI/1810.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Thanks, Jim, for sharing information linking ALLEN and CHEEK families in > KY. After I read your exchanges with Robin Poindexter (nice to hear from > you again, Robin; I had no valid e-mail address for you these past few > months) my memory clicked and I recalled seeing a marriage record for > Gallatia ALLEN in Clinton county. Sorry I did not note the exact date, > but it was in 1873, book 3, page 453. She married John H CHEEK. I > suppose he was related to the CHEEK families I research in Clinton county > but I am not certain how. He could be the John CHEEK mentioned below > whose parents were James A CHEEK and Mary GASKILL. The marriage entry > gave his middle initial as H, and it looked like W to me in the 1850 > census, but Jim Estes reported it as M in a tree he placed on Ancestry. > It's easy to mistake those. That John CHEEK was born in NC about 1848, > which makes him a good candidate for marriage in 1873. > > Candace ALLEN CHEEK certainly could also be related to Hinton ALLEN and > his son (your great grandfather) Aaron Andrew ALLEN. Here are some Cheek > census data. > > 1850 Clinton Co KY: (misindexed in Ancestry.com as "Malone Tuck"), Mabane > Cheek (35,VA) laborer, Candis (25,VA), > John (3,VA), Beaufort (2,VA), NOTE: married in NC and must have come to > KY about 1849 > 1850 Clinton co KY (misindexed Ancestry.com as "James Suck"): James A. > Cheek (29, NC) farmer, Mary Cheek (31, NC), > Augustus W (7,NC), Mary E<C?> (3,NC), John W (2,NC), Willis Cheek > (27,NC) laborer, Thomas Frost<?> (16,KY) laborer, twelve houses from > Mabane Cheek > 1860 Clinton Co KY: Maborn Cheek (44,NC) farmer, Candes (45,NC), John > (14,NC), Bedford (11,NC), Jams (8,KY), Sarah C (7,KY) > 1870 Albany, Clinton co KY: Candis Cleek (49,KY), Buford (20,KY) works on > farm, James (17,KY), works on farm, Walter (16,KY) works on farm > > James A Cheek and Mary are probably Mayburn CHEEK's brother and > sister-in-law. There is a marriage bond for James A Cheek and Mary L > Gaskill, dated 04 Dec 1845 in Orange county, NC which could be theirs. I > have not yet suceeded in locating an entry for that family in 1860; > however, there is an 1864 marriage (book 1, page 331) for James A Cheek to > Cynthia N STOCKTON, and I wonder if it is a remarriage for that same > fellow. > > The census entries for Candace, all in Clinton co KY, can be used to > estimate her birth date. The 1850 age of 25 for Candace may not be > reliable, since whoever gave it (a neighbor, perhaps?) also thought the > family were all born in VA. Based on the 1860 age of 45, and the 1870 age > of 49, Candace was probably born in NC between 1815 and 1821. Lacking any > better information I tend to favor the latter date. There is a marriage > bond record for her (to Mebane Cheek) dated 18 Dec 1847 in Orange county, > NC (an area of North Carolina that was thick with CHEEKs at that time). > That would make her 26 then. A birth date of 1815 for her would instead > make her 32 at marriage, which is possible but would make her a bit old > for a woman beginning to have children back then. According to some > researchers, that was Mayburn Cheek's second marriage. His name has been > spelled a lot of ways, but the more reliable records (death certificate of > his daughter, Charity CHEEK SHELLEY, and family! > bible page of his son, James M CHEEK) have it spelled as Mayburn or > Mayben. Mebane is the name of a town in the Orange county, NC area, so > that might expain how the index entry for the marriage bond came to refer > to him as Mebane CHEEK (handwriting was probably poor). > > With Hinton ALLEN born 1818 and Aaron in 1841, is it possible either could > have been brother to Candace ALLEN?. The other ALLEN family I know of in > connection with CHEEKs in Clinton co KY is that of Drury (Andrew) and > Rebecca ALLEN, also of North Carolina. Robin has named Hinton as a child > of Drury and Rebecca. Willis CHEEK, reputed by some to be brother to > Mayburn CHEEK, apparently lived with that ALLEN family for more than two > decades after they relocated to Clinton county. I cannot say just what > relation Willis was to them. None of the ALLEN daughters was ever listed > as CHEEK in the census, and I found no record of a marriage between them. > > The CHEEK family left few records in Clinton county, despite a long stay. > The militia roll in 1861 included Willis CHEEK and an M CHEEK (Mayburn?). > There are also a few marriage records in Clinton county with the CHEEK > name. The only one I saw that mentions Willis CHEEK is actually the > marriage of Rebecca ALLEN (daughter of Charity ALLEN), as follows (book 7, > page 105): Thomas B Brown + Rebecca Allen, ceremony performed at Willis > Cheek's place, 8 Mar 1885. That presumably was the farm Drury ALLEN left > when he passed away. The marriage bond was filed 6 Mar, with Cynthia D > Blair and C L <hard to read initials> Shelley as witnesses, ceremony > performed by L. S. Shelley, min of MCCS. Cynthia was Cynthia D SMITH > BLAIR, older sister to my wife's great grandmother Elizabeth Jane SMITH > (who married Mayburn CHEEK's son, James M CHEEK in 1871). According to > the 1880 census, Rebecca ALLEN would have been only 14 or 15 when married. > That the marriage record refers to Willis Chee! > k's place suggests, but does not prove, the old Mr. ALLEN was gone by > then, that Willis was still around in 1885, and that he had perhaps > acquired or inherited the ALLEN farm. I note, though, that the "Clinton > County, Kentucky Census 1890" (reconstructed), 976.902 C641ce, available > at the library in Frankfort had no mention of Willis CHEEK. Since that > "census substitute" was constructed partly using property tax roles for > the county, I suppose it could be no deed was ever filed for the property. > Alexander B (Beaufort, Bedford or Buford) CHEEK (who married Emarine > TUGGLE) is the only CHEEK mentioned in that reference. Emarine TUGGLE > CHEEK and her son, Moses CHEEK, are the only CHEEKS for whom I found a > death or burial record in the county. > > 1850 house 94, south district, Alamance co, NC: Drury Allen (60,NC) > farmer, Rebecca (60,NC), Charity (20,NC), Rose (17), Susan (11) > 1860 Clinton co KY: Drewry Allen (71,NC) farmer, Rebecca (71,NC), Charita > A (23,NC) housework, Rosa A (25,NC) sewing, Willis Cheek (29,NC) farmer > 1870 Clinton co KY: Drury Allen (76,NC) farmer, Rosa A (33,NC), Charity > (30,NC) works at home, > Rebecca E (7m,KY), John Dickerson (7,KY), Willis Cheek (41,NC) farmer > 1880 Neathery and Shelley, Clinton co KY: Willis Cheek (45,NC NC,NC) > farmer, Andrew Allen (90,NC, NC,NC) widower, > Rosa (35,NC NCNC), Charity(33,NC NC,NC), Rebecca E (9,KY, not give,NC ), > Sidney M (8,KY, not given,NC) > > These data indicate birth dates about 1789 for Drury ALLEN and his wife, > Rebecca CHAMPION. In 1840 they would have been about 50 years old. > Candace ALLEN should have been between 19 and 25 years old at that time. > Do you have a proven or suspected 1840 census entry for the family of > Hinton ALLEN? There are two Drury ALLEN records in NC in 1840, again in > counties near Orange county (Person, Alamance, and Granville are all in > that area). > > The one in Granville county has: > male 50-59 years old, > female 40-49 years old (plus one 70-79 years old), > two male children 10-14 years of age, > two female children 10-14 years old, and > one female child 20-29 years old > > The other Drury ALLEN record is from Person county, and that family (which > is next door to one headed by a Sarah ALLEN) has: > male 50-59 years old, > female 40-49 years old, > one male child under 5, > one male aged 10-14, > two males aged 20-29 (Hinton ALLEN and <?> ALLEN?), > one female child under 5 (Susan ALLEN?), > one female aged 5-9 years (Rose ALLEN?), > one female aged 15-19 (Charity ALLEN?), and > one female aged 20-29 (Candace ALLEN?). > > Charity and Rose ALLEN aged very slowly once they reached adulthood, so > the 1850 record is probably the most accurate indicator for calculating > their birth dates. In 1840 Charity ALLEN should have been about 10, her > sister Rose about 7, and her sister Susan about 1. The record from Person > county seems to be the better fit for that information. The older ALLEN > girl in the 1840 Person county record could be Candace ALLEN. Tthere were > two males aged 20-29 in that record, and one of them could have been > Hinton ALLEN. > > If it was so that Hinton and Candace ALLEN were brother and sister, then > Willis CHEEK would I think have been the brother of Drury and Rebecca > ALLEN's son-in-law, Mayburn CHEEK, and therefore also brother to Charity > ALLEN's brother-in-law. That could explain his long residency at the > Drury and Rebecca ALLEN farm. Also, if Charity ALLEN and Candace ALLEN > were sisters, Candace ALLEN CHEEK might have named her daughter, Charity > CHEEK SHELLEY, after her own sister, which is logical. I suppose to prove > this someone must find reliable birth records from the counties in North > Carolina. 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