Chris, You might check on www.webcam.com/duane/trip1921.html for another wagon train trip concerning the Clinton Co., KY area. Also, some of William Matthew Massengale's children went to Texas on a wagon train. Pictures appeared in the Clinton County newspaper. Also, one of the Massengale's was either beaten to death or was killed by lightening as they were leaving for Texas on a wagon train. Much of his family eventually migrated to Illinois and Indiana. If I remember correctly this is Martin Massengale's line. Sandi -- Sandih paintgenie@elitemail.org -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again

Joyce, Yes, Reuben b. c. 1833. Chris

Chris, Did Sophronia Owens have an older brother by the name of Reuben? Think she is one of my gggrandfather's sisters. Joyce Pecora ----- Original Message ----- From: <Capenwell@wmconnect.com> To: <KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [KYCLINTO] DAVIS, BROWN & STINSON from Clinton Co., KY to Collin Co., Te... > Anna, > > I am researching the Davis family. I have Saphornia's maiden name as > Sophronia Adeline Owens b. 1840 Clinton Co. KY. Her parents were: Samuel > Owens b. > c. 1805 in KY. and Sarah Ann Hamilton b. c. 1806 in VA. > > May I please have a copy of the picture of the Davis children? Thank you > so much. > > Chris > > > ==== KYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > All responses should be directed to the message poster, not to the > KYCLINTO list in general. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jAB.2ACI/1359.3 Message Board Post: John Henderson Phillips was my gggggrandfather, his first wife was racheal, & the second wife mary stockton. If i could be of any help with this line please let me know. You can e-mail me at craft@alltel.net. Thanks, barb

<Anna Bertram" <abertram@heartoftn.net> Tilman C. and Artema Willa(WESTMORELAND) STINSON __________________________ Do you have any further information on Artema Willa WESTMORELAND STINSON? Parents d.of birth and death, brothers and sisters? Anything appreciated. Thanks in advance. Linda

Gary, Are these Whitewright news items on the internet? ~ Rae Ann Hopkins Berry > There were numerous news items from Whitewright, Texas published in the > various Fentress County and Jamestown, Tennessee newspapers. Several names > were mentioned in each article as I recall. The articles were from the > 1890's to about the 1920's. > > Gary D. Norris > > > From: <arangeley@stx.rr.com> > > Reply-To: KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:39:23 -0600 > > To: KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [KYCLINTO] Kentuckytown, Texas > > Resent-From: KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com > > Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:39:21 -0700 > > > > http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/KK/hrk7.html > > > > The North Texas area saw many settlers from Kentucky. > > > > Some of the families I am familiar with who migrated from Clinton Co. > > to the vicinity of Van Alstyne and Whitewright in Grayson, Tx. area > > of Grayson were Hopkins, Neathery, Grider, Hunter, Guthrie, Brammer, > > & Mann. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <KELKEV956@cs.com> > > To: <KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [KYCLINTO] Wagon Train from Clinton co KY to TX (SMITH) > > > > > >> There may have been multiple migrations from Clinton county KY to Texas. > >> At > >> least one son from the family of Robert C SMITH (b abt 1802, VA) and > >> Cynthia D > >> Ragle (b Jan 1813, VA) relocated to Texas. The widowed Cynthia, my wife's > >> 2nd great grandmother, also went and was still alive and living with her > >> son > >> George SMITH in 1900. George and family were in Fannin county, TX at that > >> time. > >> The pattern of birth states for his children indicates the family > >> relocated > >> from KY to TX before about Sept of 1884. By 1910 the family were in Hunt > >> county, and lived in or around Greenville. > >> > >> Kevin in MO > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== KYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > >> All responses should be directed to the message poster, not to the > >> KYCLINTO list in general. > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== KYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > > Please keep your messages limited to Clinton County, KY genealogy related > > topics. Everyone will appreciate it! > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== KYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > All responses should be directed to the message poster, not to the KYCLINTO list > in general. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Anna, Do you have any information on Artema Willa (WESTMORELAND) STINSON? And, yes, I would like more information on Fount and his family. Thank you so much. Chris

Hi I am interested in the Guthrie's that settled in or near Whitewright, Grayson, County TX. These people are my direct 4th & 3rd generation great grandparents respectively. Armenis GUTHRIE b.27 Jun 1819 KY d. 10 Aug 1897 in Whitewright, Grayson Co TX., married in Clinton Co KY to Matilda C VANCE b. 01 Sept. 1827 Burkesville Cumberland Co KY d. 19 Nov 1904 in Whitewright Grayson Co TX., their daughter Martha Jane GUTHRIE b.1847? KY d. abt 1886 Whitewright Grayson Co TX. Martha Jane married 12 July 1872 in Clinton Co KY Lenoidas C LAWHORN b. 22 Feb 1852 d. 04 May 1935 Wilbarger Co TX. The remaining GUTHRIE children are: 1.Olive Elizabeth b.? d. 13 Mar 1858 Clinton Co KY 2. Wesley O. b. 07 Jan KY 1845 d. 22 Sept 1919 Tioga Grayson Co TX., buried Oak Hill Cemetery Whitewright, TX [1] Virginia? [2] Mary Sivells [3] Martha Ann Craft 17 Dec 1885 Clinton co KY 3.Martha J "mentioned above" 4.Parazinnis V "Zettie" 11 Aug 1848 KY 28 Jul 1922 Fannin Co.TX mar.19 Dec 1872 in Clinton Co KY Granville B. Madison 5.Mary Emmamaline b. 04 May 1853 d. 06 Feb 1924 Grayson Co TX mar. 02 Sept 1869 in Clinton Co KY Samuel B Jarvis 6.George Albert b. 28 July 1859 KY d. 16 Aug 1941 mar.[1] Vancie Forth 1881 [2] mar. Martha "Helen" Berry 7.Sarah "Alice" b. 08 Jan 1868 KY d. 18 Apr 1896 TX Whitewright Cemetery mar. 08 Jan 1888 TX John R Harper If anyone has any information to share I would be deeply grateful....I can add more to Martha Jane #3 child. Thanks. Deb Hill in TX ----- Original Message ----- From: <arangeley@stx.rr.com> To: <KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:39 AM Subject: [KYCLINTO] Kentuckytown, Texas > http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/KK/hrk7.html > > The North Texas area saw many settlers from Kentucky. > > Some of the families I am familiar with who migrated from Clinton Co. > to the vicinity of Van Alstyne and Whitewright in Grayson, Tx. area > of Grayson were Hopkins, Neathery, Grider, Hunter, Guthrie, Brammer, > & Mann.

There were numerous news items from Whitewright, Texas published in the various Fentress County and Jamestown, Tennessee newspapers. Several names were mentioned in each article as I recall. The articles were from the 1890's to about the 1920's. Gary D. Norris > From: <arangeley@stx.rr.com> > Reply-To: KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:39:23 -0600 > To: KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KYCLINTO] Kentuckytown, Texas > Resent-From: KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:39:21 -0700 > > http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/KK/hrk7.html > > The North Texas area saw many settlers from Kentucky. > > Some of the families I am familiar with who migrated from Clinton Co. > to the vicinity of Van Alstyne and Whitewright in Grayson, Tx. area > of Grayson were Hopkins, Neathery, Grider, Hunter, Guthrie, Brammer, > & Mann. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KELKEV956@cs.com> > To: <KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:48 PM > Subject: Re: [KYCLINTO] Wagon Train from Clinton co KY to TX (SMITH) > > >> There may have been multiple migrations from Clinton county KY to Texas. >> At >> least one son from the family of Robert C SMITH (b abt 1802, VA) and >> Cynthia D >> Ragle (b Jan 1813, VA) relocated to Texas. The widowed Cynthia, my wife's >> 2nd great grandmother, also went and was still alive and living with her >> son >> George SMITH in 1900. George and family were in Fannin county, TX at that >> time. >> The pattern of birth states for his children indicates the family >> relocated >> from KY to TX before about Sept of 1884. By 1910 the family were in Hunt >> county, and lived in or around Greenville. >> >> Kevin in MO >> >> >> >> >> ==== KYCLINTO Mailing List ==== >> All responses should be directed to the message poster, not to the >> KYCLINTO list in general. >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== KYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > Please keep your messages limited to Clinton County, KY genealogy related > topics. Everyone will appreciate it! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

"Kevin"- Thanks. BobHop Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Hopkins File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins0 Byers File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins1 Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

Chris, Different girls named Rhoda A. STINSON. They were first cousins and very close in age. The one who married Fount BROWN was the daughter of Tilman C. and Artema Willa (WESTMORELAND) STINSON. The one I am trying to find with a husband and family was born to William Henry H. and Lavina (RIGNEY) STINSON. Fount and his wife were my husband's great-uncle and great-aunt because Fount was his grandfather's brother. The other Rhoda was his grandmother's sister. I think she was the one who married Greorge Thomas SUTTON. I have a lot on Great Uncle Fount BROWN and Rhoda Ann (STINSON) BROWN, his wife, if you want it. Thanks! Sincerely, Anna Bertram abertram@heartoftn.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Capenwell@wmconnect.com To: KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [KYCLINTO] STINSON, SUTTON DABNEY Anna, I have that Rhoda Stinson b. 12/1878 in KY. was married to William Fount Brown b. 1/1878 in Clinton Co. KY. 29 Mar 1898. Is this wrong? Or do I have a differnet couple here? Chris

I noticed that one of the books cited at http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/KK/hrk7.html was A History of Grayson County by Mattied D. Lucas and Mita H. Hall. Mrs. Hall was the daughter of John Wright Holsapple, who represents one of several Holsapple branches to come from Kentucky to Texas. He came from Calloway Co., I believe. Does anyone know anymore about his ancestry? My own Holsapples are from Clinton Co., descendents of Jacob Holsapple and Catherine Van Meter Holsapple. In my research, I've found Holsapples scattered throughout (mostly) the western half of Kentucky. Has anyone been able to connect them? I find it astounding that there can be as many branches of a family, with a not very common name, all in the same part of the state without their being related. Jacob and Catherine had at least 12 children of record. I don't believe all of their descendents are accounted for either. Any help out there, especially with the less researched children? -- Patrick J. McCann, Jr. Dallas, TX CRESCIT SUB PONDERE VIRTUS

Anna, I have that Rhoda Stinson b. 12/1878 in KY. was married to William Fount Brown b. 1/1878 in Clinton Co. KY. 29 Mar 1898. Is this wrong? Or do I have a differnet couple here? Chris

BOBHOP@aol.com wrote: >Kevin- > >Which branch of HOPKINS moved to Grayson, TX? > >(My line is usually identified by their use of the name Dennis.)   Thanks. >Bob Hopkins in FL Sorry, if I am the Kevin you meant, I have no information on HOPKINS family at all. Kevin in MO > > > > >Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ > >Hopkins File >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins0 > >Byers File >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins1 > >Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, >Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, >Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake > > >==== KYCLINTO Mailing List ==== >All responses should be directed to the message poster, not to the KYCLINTO list in general. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Anna, In the 1910 census, George T Sutton appears in Mullentown, Wayne Co., KY with his wife, Rhoda and children (this is extremely hard to read but here goes) George T. Sutton, age 42?, b. GA Rhoda, age 37, b. KY William H. (he is 12 or 15, this census page is very washed out, born KY) ??? L. (daughter, age 6, KY) Hattie E. (age 4, KY) Roxie M. (age 1 5/12, KY) 1910 census says that Rhoda had 10 children and 4 are still living. In the 1920 census, there is a Thomas Sutton (age 56 b,. GA) in Precinct 5, Piney Woods, Clinton Co., KY with his wife Rhoda (age 48, b. KY) and children: Lou, age 15, Hattie, age 14, Roxie, age 10, Kenzie, (son) age 8, and Ettie, age 4 8/12. All born KY. In June Bork's "Wayne Co Marriages and Vital Records" vol 2, there is a William Stinson and Rhoda Joan Sloan listed in the Births section (page 314). This page lists a daughter Mary Jane was born Dec 1, 1858 on K Creek. The book has info up to 1860, so these might be your Rhoda's parents. Though I could not find them in the 1880 census. I hope this helps. Colleen Beck-Domanico On Nov 14, 2005, at 2:44 PM, Anna Bertram wrote: > I am trying to find the parents of both the bride and groom in the > following Clinton Co., KY marriage: > > G.T. SUTTON to Rhoda STINSON, bondsman was W.C. DABNEY, December > 24, 1889, Marriage Book 8, Page 93 > > And who was W.C. DABNEY? > > I also would like to follow this bridal couple on census but have > not had any luck. Thanks in advance for any and all help! > > Anna Bertram > > abertram@heartoftn.net > > > ==== KYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > All responses should be directed to the message poster, not to the > KYCLINTO list in general. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Anna, Thank you for the information. Chris

Anna, I am researching the Davis family. I have Saphornia's maiden name as Sophronia Adeline Owens b. 1840 Clinton Co. KY. Her parents were: Samuel Owens b. c. 1805 in KY. and Sarah Ann Hamilton b. c. 1806 in VA. May I please have a copy of the picture of the Davis children? Thank you so much. Chris

I am trying to find the parents of both the bride and groom in the following Clinton Co., KY marriage: G.T. SUTTON to Rhoda STINSON, bondsman was W.C. DABNEY, December 24, 1889, Marriage Book 8, Page 93 And who was W.C. DABNEY? I also would like to follow this bridal couple on census but have not had any luck. Thanks in advance for any and all help! Anna Bertram abertram@heartoftn.net

Kevin- Which branch of HOPKINS moved to Grayson, TX? (My line is usually identified by their use of the name Dennis.) Thanks. Bob Hopkins in FL Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Hopkins File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins0 Byers File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins1 Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/KK/hrk7.html The North Texas area saw many settlers from Kentucky. Some of the families I am familiar with who migrated from Clinton Co. to the vicinity of Van Alstyne and Whitewright in Grayson, Tx. area of Grayson were Hopkins, Neathery, Grider, Hunter, Guthrie, Brammer, & Mann. ----- Original Message ----- From: <KELKEV956@cs.com> To: <KYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [KYCLINTO] Wagon Train from Clinton co KY to TX (SMITH) > There may have been multiple migrations from Clinton county KY to Texas. > At > least one son from the family of Robert C SMITH (b abt 1802, VA) and > Cynthia D > Ragle (b Jan 1813, VA) relocated to Texas. The widowed Cynthia, my wife's > 2nd great grandmother, also went and was still alive and living with her > son > George SMITH in 1900. George and family were in Fannin county, TX at that > time. > The pattern of birth states for his children indicates the family > relocated > from KY to TX before about Sept of 1884. By 1910 the family were in Hunt > county, and lived in or around Greenville. > > Kevin in MO > > > > > ==== KYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > All responses should be directed to the message poster, not to the > KYCLINTO list in general. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >