RESPONSE: I don't believe you will find any actual marriage record from that early time period. All there is remaining are the names and information in registery format. Here is what I have in case you may not have received all that is in the record. January 16, 1834 MILLER, Leander to BALLINGER, Virginia by: Wm. HOPPER, minister Stephen W. BATES, bondsman Daniel MILLER, Father* * Richard BALLINGER, father * * note: parent given. 1830 Knox Co. BALLINGER, Richard, male, bet. 60-70 . . Female, bet. 40-50 . . Male, bet. 15-20 . . Female, bet. 10-15 PLUS: 16 slaves There are also two BALLINGERS living on the same transcribed page. One is James F. BALLINGER bet. 30-40 with a female bet. 15-20, a couple of kids and 6 SLAVES. The other is Frank BALLINGER, bet. 20-30 with another similiar age Male plus one 15-20 age range female and l child plus a couple slaves. Most probably this is all from the same family. I don't see any Daniel MILLER on either the 1820 or 1830 Knox Co. There is, however, a David MILLER. By 1840, there are a number of MILLER families present in Knox Co. and a David MILLER but still no Daniel MILLER or Leander MILLER. By 1840, Richard BALLINGER is bet. 70-80 and his wife bet. 50-60 along with a bunch of slaves 1850 clay Co. Dwelling 749 MILLER, Leander, 47 - Merchant . .Virgena, 35 . .Richard, 13, . .Sarah, 11 . .Ellen, 8 RAMSEY, Charles, 19 JACKSON, James, 24 - brick mason MAUPIN, Dabney, 26 Not present in 1860 Clay Co. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Hello! I am a new subscriber to this list. Thank you up front for all the time and energy it takes to provide this service. I am the GGGgranddaughter of Leander Miller of Clay County, KY (b. 2/2/1802 in KY d. 8/16/1858 in St. Joe, MO) and looking for more information. Here is what I know..... He married a Virginia. I have info from Jody Sizemore (thanks Judy!) that suggested my Leander may be the one that married a Virginia Ballinger in Knox County, KY 1/16/1834. I am currently trying to obtain the marriage document. Time is right. Virginia was the daughter of Richard and Mildred Herndon Ballinger. Leander Miller I have do not have any info on his parents. He was either born in KY as is listed w/ him in the 1840 and 1850 census or TN (as told to the census taker in 1900 w/ his daughter Helen/ Ellen) Here is what I have found out: Married (Virginia? ________?) b. 1814 or 1815 in KY Children: Richard b. 1837 Unknown what happened to him Sarah b. 1839 oral family history says she died at finishing school in St. Louis, MO in 1850s Ellen (Helen) my GGgrandmother b. 1842 married Israel Hamman in St. Joseph, MO 1861 d. 12/18/1908. Leander was a merchant in Manchester, Clay County, KY. I have found tidbits on the web for him. 1844 he bought 25 acres and then another 100 acres on Sturgeon Creek, Owsley County. Unknown if it was ever developed in any way. Probably spec property. In 1840 KY census he has 13 people at his residence 4 are slaves and the rest are free white persons. In 1850 KY census the family is listed w/ 3 other persons and is also listed on the KY slave schedules with 11 slaves. I found court records showing his involvement w/ the Bates Baker shooting and the guardianship of Bates children. Also on record as a merchant in Manchester providing money for Milley Henson and new husband William Densel in 1833. I do not where he was born. Or have any other info on his family. Family oral history has him related to Samuel Freeman Miller, Supreme Court Judge, appointed by Lincoln. There is a line of Millers w/Samuel's father that I have not been able to find any information on. Does anyone have any information on this family? How do I go about getting records for his property ownership/sale in Manchester, do they exist? Are their death records available for that time? I think Virginia may have died about 1850 and that is why he went to Missouri. I have been in contact w/ the Ballinger family line and her line stops about this time. I have a picture of her I would love to share should anyone want a copy of it. I look forward to hearing from you, Robin Landgren Dlandgren@aol.com <