I am related to both Wilson's and Felty's so I am very interested too. Jess Wilson will have all the answers. He is a very smart cousin... He is on kyclay@rootsweb.com subscriber. I haven't heard from him in a while. Maybe he's on vacation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete & Kathy" <pklewis6@comcast.net> To: <kyclay@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Felty, Clay, Kentucky > > Would they have gone to Berea ,Ohio? There is a class photo with a > Robert H Felty in it on ancestory.com. I am also interested in the > Wilson's . Thank You .Kathy Lewis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kyclay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kyclay-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Victoria Roy > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:07 PM > To: kyclay@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Felty, Clay, Kentucky > > > What are your records/names of "Wilson". I come from a line of > Kentuckians of last name Wilson(which is my maiden name). Please reply. > Thanks!! > > Victoria R. Roy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kyclay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kyclay-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of BDCamp6900@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:58 PM > To: KYCLAY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KYCLAY] Felty, Clay, Kentucky > > I have found records pertaining to the CAMPBELL and WILSON and HELTON > surnames all in Clay County, Kentucky and to Felty. > > Can find no information about Felty. Can someone tell me about Felty > circa > 1915 to 1950? > > Also is anyone researching CAMPBELL, George -- WILSON, Isabell -- > HELTON > is the maiden name of Isabell also married to George Campbell. > Divorced? > > Thanks for any help. > > Dodie > _BDCamp6900@aol.com_ (mailto:BDCamp6900@aol.com) > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new > AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ---------------------------------------- > > > To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County > research, please visit > http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have > any questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email > kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ---------------------------------------- > > > To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County > research, please visit > http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have > any questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email > kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ---------------------------------------- > > > To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County > research, please visit > http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have any > questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email > kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I have found records pertaining to the CAMPBELL and WILSON and HELTON surnames all in Clay County, Kentucky and to Felty. Can find no information about Felty. Can someone tell me about Felty circa 1915 to 1950? Also is anyone researching CAMPBELL, George -- WILSON, Isabell -- HELTON is the maiden name of Isabell also married to George Campbell. Divorced? Thanks for any help. Dodie _BDCamp6900@aol.com_ (mailto:BDCamp6900@aol.com) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

What are your records/names of "Wilson". I come from a line of Kentuckians of last name Wilson(which is my maiden name). Please reply. Thanks!! Victoria R. Roy -----Original Message----- From: kyclay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kyclay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BDCamp6900@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:58 PM To: KYCLAY@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCLAY] Felty, Clay, Kentucky I have found records pertaining to the CAMPBELL and WILSON and HELTON surnames all in Clay County, Kentucky and to Felty. Can find no information about Felty. Can someone tell me about Felty circa 1915 to 1950? Also is anyone researching CAMPBELL, George -- WILSON, Isabell -- HELTON is the maiden name of Isabell also married to George Campbell. Divorced? Thanks for any help. Dodie _BDCamp6900@aol.com_ (mailto:BDCamp6900@aol.com) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ---------------------------------------- To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County research, please visit http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have any questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been away from the computer for over a week and will address Sandy England's relationship. Joseph or Joe K. Smith son of subject was married 21 October 1880 as Sharon has reported and this comes from Knox Co. official marriage records which can be obtained on the Knox Co. Gen website which is very informative showing that Elizabeth BAKER was his bride. According to these documents both were residents of Knox Co and believed to be living in the area of Hammons Fork Road just south of the Clay County line and below Otter Creek Right Fork Road. It should be noted that the marriage of their son James R. Smith in 1910 and this marriage document is on the Knox Co. Gen Website and it shows that James married Mandy Brown son of Mr. & Mrs. Silas Brown. Further it shows that his father is Joseph K. Smith and mother Lizzie Smith. >From this marriage it is assumed that three known children were born with Emily or Emma Jane Smith born in 1881. In the 1900 census of Emily or Emma Jane, the month as recorded on the census form appears to be March but however this could in reality be May but that does not matter. James R. Smith was born in 1889 and Daughtery who has been recorded in census records as Daw Daugh etc. was born 1893. Surely there could have been other children born but not accounted for in 1900 census and if there were any, they could have been females which are less able to track. Joseph or Joe K. Smith married 14 January 1897 to Mollie Smith in Knox Co. with the resident of Joseph being Clay Co and Mollie, Knox Co. There known children were Ellen, Willie B. and Calvin Smith. In the 1920 census Joseph K. Smith is enumerated as Joe Smith and has a 47 year old wife named Nancy. I have no further information on her. I hope that Sandy does not mind me giving her descent, although I would have thought she would have replied, however she is a hard working gal with a regular job and that comes first and like me is away from the computer at times for some time. Emily or Emma Jane Smith married 8 August 1895 to John D. JACKSON, son of Micajah "Cager" JACKSON and his second wife Amanda SMITH. What is believed to have been John and Emily/Emma Jane's second child was Nicholas or Nick JACKSON. Nick Jackson married Lucy Smith daughter of John Hensel Smith & Elizabeth Slusher and their 7th known child and daughter Irene Jackson was born in 1945. Irene married Carl Hubbard, son of Isaac Hubbard and grandson of Turner HUBBARD and Amelia [Smith] Hubbard. Sandy is the daughter of Carl HUBBARD and Irene JACKSON. And yes, she is a cousin to Wages etc. I hope that this has helped, and also that Betty was able to access the proper rootswebsite. As we owe Sharon Gallagher Shaffer Smith [and excuse me I hope I have this right-the names that is] a debt of gratitude in what she has put forth in her postings on this SMITH & JACKSON family. It should also be known that it is Irene Jackson Hubbard who relayed information that her grandmother Emma had a brother named Jim to her daughter Sandy. Sandy was online and Richard Holt a descendant of Micajah "Cager" JACKSON & his first wife Mariana STEWART chatted with each other. Richard knew that I had thoroughly researched the parentage of Emily or Emma Jane SMITH and had came to the conclusion that her father had to be Joseph K. Smith. However had no proof and I Hal [Harold} Smith was ignorant in not getting onto the Knox Co Gen Website. Richard contacted me and I relayed the info that Joseph had a son named James Smith and he was enumerated in 1910 just married and next to his father. Richard then got on the Knox Co website and got the married document of James R. SMITH and Mandy BROWN. And this led us to now have documents proving the parentage of Emily Jane or Emma Smith and so many people now know their ancestry. It is sweeter as the GUNTER family hereabouts in Central-Mid Michigan now have their final Clay County, and Knox County roots solved. However their is a footnote to the story and probably only Irene Hubbard could tell it best. Sometime between 1923-24 the above Emily/Jane [Smith] Jackson went out of her mind so to speak as a young daughter born after 1920 census died in scalding water pit which was used for pigs. The scene and this tragedy set off Emily//Emma and she wandered off. It is evident that she went from home to home alone by herself. Since husband John married in 1926 he evidently divorced her. Emma Jackson 48 years old appears in January 1930 enumeration of the area around Ashers Fork Road living in the household of Sarah [Clarkston] MILLS. Or this is my belief. No other Emma Jackson by that name would be possible. Sarah Mills was a widow for over 30 years of Clark Mills and of course the Mills were ancestors and relatives of this tragic lady. It should also be mentioned that the same fate happened to her daughter Ida Jackson when Ida's 33 year old husband Arthur Jackson died of TB last week of December 1938 and she wandered off from here children and died less than 3 months after her husband Arthur Jackson and believe it or not having wed a Philip Cox in February and then dying also of TB on 29 March 1939. The descendants of subject are happy in knowing their ancestry now but at the same time their is falso sadness in knowing what their grandmother Ida JACKSON and Emily/Emma Jane [SMITH] Jackson had evidently suffered the same way. There is knowledge what happened to Ida but there is mystery to what happened to Emily/Emma Jane. My best to everyone. God Bless.

Am I right? Sandy England is Joseph's Smith Daughter? If so do you have an e-mail address for her. Joseph is Samantha (Smith) Wages Brother. Thanks. Jasper and Betty Wages -----Original Message----- >From: Harold Smith <coeurdepines@sbcglobal.net> >Sent: Jul 13, 2007 8:18 PM >To: kyclay@rootsweb.com >Cc: sandycolleen@yahoo.com, sharinlpn@netzero.com, Angel-List@hotmail.com >Subject: [KYCLAY] Hiram Harrison SMITH > >To anyone seeking thorough data pertaining to practically all SMITH's that emigrated to Clay County please log on to http://wc.rootsweb.com/ On this initial page is should show surname and given name. Naturally put in SMITH as surname and Hiram Harrison as given name. Hiram Harrison SMITH was the son of Henry Smith and Susannah SMITH. When you click on search scroll down to the database of SHARON SMITH. Sharon has so much information pertaining to court documents, census results etc. > >I will sometime next week have a story on the coming to light of Hiram Harrison Smith & his wife Sallie/Sarah Hunt or Hurst, son JOSEPH, whose marriages and descendants have previously been unknown until uncovered by Richard Holt of Tennessee and myself because of the interdiction of an online person who happened to be a great-great granddaughter of Joseph or Joe K. Smith of Brightshade, Clay County and Hammons Fork Road, Knox County, Sandy England. . It was her mother Irene [Jackson] Hubbard that passed on info that led to this discovery. > >In the meantime Sharon has the proper ancestry of Joseph or Joe K. Smith and his first wife Elizabeth or Lizzie Baker and of their presumed 1st child and daughter Emily or Emma [Jane] SMITH who was the 1st wife of John D. JACKSON son of Micajah "Cager" Jackson and Amanda Smith. > >Take care and God Bless. > >Hal [Harold L.] SMITH >---------------------------------------- > > >To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County research, please visit http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have any questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Am I right? Sandy England is Joseph's Smith Daughter? If so do you have an e-mail address for her. Joseph is Samantha (Smith) Wages Brother. Thanks. Jasper and Betty Wages -----Original Message----- >From: Harold Smith <coeurdepines@sbcglobal.net> >Sent: Jul 13, 2007 8:18 PM >To: kyclay@rootsweb.com >Cc: sandycolleen@yahoo.com, sharinlpn@netzero.com, Angel-List@hotmail.com >Subject: [KYCLAY] Hiram Harrison SMITH > >To anyone seeking thorough data pertaining to practically all SMITH's that emigrated to Clay County please log on to http://wc.rootsweb.com/ On this initial page is should show surname and given name. Naturally put in SMITH as surname and Hiram Harrison as given name. Hiram Harrison SMITH was the son of Henry Smith and Susannah SMITH. When you click on search scroll down to the database of SHARON SMITH. Sharon has so much information pertaining to court documents, census results etc. > >I will sometime next week have a story on the coming to light of Hiram Harrison Smith & his wife Sallie/Sarah Hunt or Hurst, son JOSEPH, whose marriages and descendants have previously been unknown until uncovered by Richard Holt of Tennessee and myself because of the interdiction of an online person who happened to be a great-great granddaughter of Joseph or Joe K. Smith of Brightshade, Clay County and Hammons Fork Road, Knox County, Sandy England. . It was her mother Irene [Jackson] Hubbard that passed on info that led to this discovery. > >In the meantime Sharon has the proper ancestry of Joseph or Joe K. Smith and his first wife Elizabeth or Lizzie Baker and of their presumed 1st child and daughter Emily or Emma [Jane] SMITH who was the 1st wife of John D. JACKSON son of Micajah "Cager" Jackson and Amanda Smith. > >Take care and God Bless. > >Hal [Harold L.] SMITH >---------------------------------------- > > >To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County research, please visit http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have any questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes Sir Mr. Smith I got your message and appreciate it very much. I have also visit the rootsweb.com and got information there. Most of all I really appreciate your Service Duty. Hope I have got this right. You are 80 years old and 100% disabled Service person. If I am right about this I want to THANK you so very much for your Service Duty. My Husband (Jasper Wages) was in The Navy and also Air-Force. Went in 1943 got out 1949. We got married Dec. 1950. Jasper will be 81 July 24 of this year. I am 74. I have tried to get you pass the spam blocker. I must not be doing the right thing. Please try again. Thanks for all you have done for us. Did I tell you we lived in Corbin, Ky.? Jasper and Betty Wages -----Original Message----- >From: Harold Smith <coeurdepines@sbcglobal.net> >Sent: Jul 13, 2007 7:22 PM >To: kyclay@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KYCLAY] Hiram Harrison Smith, Betty Wages of Jasperwages@jih.net > >I respectively answered an inquiry of Betty regarding Hiram Harrison Smith. I answered it directly to her e-mail address and not to kyclay@rotsweb.com. Then I made a correction to my original e-mail. This was returned by her spam blocker. It is my desire to help Betty out. However after a week I have received no answers to my e-mails to her, thus I am going this route in an attempt to find out if she was able to log on to Sharon's data on subject and his ancestors too > >Respectively a 80 year old 100% disabled serviceman who is only trying to help someone out > >Hal [Harold L.] Smith >---------------------------------------- > > >To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County research, please visit http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have any questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To anyone seeking thorough data pertaining to practically all SMITH's that emigrated to Clay County please log on to http://wc.rootsweb.com/ On this initial page is should show surname and given name. Naturally put in SMITH as surname and Hiram Harrison as given name. Hiram Harrison SMITH was the son of Henry Smith and Susannah SMITH. When you click on search scroll down to the database of SHARON SMITH. Sharon has so much information pertaining to court documents, census results etc. I will sometime next week have a story on the coming to light of Hiram Harrison Smith & his wife Sallie/Sarah Hunt or Hurst, son JOSEPH, whose marriages and descendants have previously been unknown until uncovered by Richard Holt of Tennessee and myself because of the interdiction of an online person who happened to be a great-great granddaughter of Joseph or Joe K. Smith of Brightshade, Clay County and Hammons Fork Road, Knox County, Sandy England. . It was her mother Irene [Jackson] Hubbard that passed on info that led to this discovery. In the meantime Sharon has the proper ancestry of Joseph or Joe K. Smith and his first wife Elizabeth or Lizzie Baker and of their presumed 1st child and daughter Emily or Emma [Jane] SMITH who was the 1st wife of John D. JACKSON son of Micajah "Cager" Jackson and Amanda Smith. Take care and God Bless. Hal [Harold L.] SMITH

I respectively answered an inquiry of Betty regarding Hiram Harrison Smith. I answered it directly to her e-mail address and not to kyclay@rotsweb.com. Then I made a correction to my original e-mail. This was returned by her spam blocker. It is my desire to help Betty out. However after a week I have received no answers to my e-mails to her, thus I am going this route in an attempt to find out if she was able to log on to Sharon's data on subject and his ancestors too Respectively a 80 year old 100% disabled serviceman who is only trying to help someone out Hal [Harold L.] Smith

My name is Betty Wages. My Husband's GGGrandfather was Hiram Harrison Smith. I would like to know if you have any information on a Hiram Harrison Smith married Sarah Elizabeth Hurst. They lived in Clay County, Kentucky. Hiram Harrison Smith Married Sarah Hurst Samantha Smith M. Highy Wages Jasper Wages M. Martha Belle Gregory Elisha Wages M. Laura Robbins Jasper Wages M. Betty Mayne I think they all lived in Clay County, Ky. / Laurel County, Ky. and now we live in Know County, Ky. I know Highy and Samantha went to Jackson Parish, Louisiana. They are buried in Eros, Lousiana. Sarah Hurst was from Claiborne, Tn. Close to the Ky. line, near Tazewell Tn. Any informatin would be appreciate. Thanks for your time. Jasper and Betty WAges Our e-mail jasperwages@kih.net -----Original Message----- >From: moonrose2u <moonrose2u@yahoo.com> >Sent: Jul 7, 2007 8:17 AM >To: KYCLAY@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KYCLAY] help!!! > >IMy husband has been hospitalized for a serious illness, and I am just now getting back into the 'genealogicial' swing of things and doing my research. If anyone has contacted me personally for information that I might have please do so again, so I can be of helps Is anyone tracing the following lines: > Salley/Salley Edwards ('mulatto or native american" who md. or was common in law wife or slave to Jesse Barrett > > Lydia Barrett (possibly md. a Griffin/Griffith/Griffis/Grifen who md. Irven Allen. Daughter Lucinda (of the Clay County Allens) b. 1856 md. George Frazier/Frasure/Frasier for 1 yr, had daugher Ollie and divorced and was living with 'aunt' 'Giney Grifen" (misspellings courtesy of census taker) who was listed as 'mulatto" (native american-family has had DNA test- mother is 25% native american) and Lucinda then married JK Martin. Gramps insisted that Joe and Giney received Indian allottment monies; there are nearly 100 Griffens on various Indian rolls, and to send for each application packet to verify family information would cost a small fortune! Some records show Ollie as Frasier and others including school record show her as "Ollie Martin"....George Frazier disappeared and probably remarried. I think his family may have been Solomon Frazier line, but not sure. > > Ollie went on to marry Ameridith Combs-I have the Combs line back to Englnd- and they traveled to Oklahoma in 1907 where she gave birth to my grandfather in 1908. Family tradition says that she was a schoolteacher like her stepfather JK Martin, and taught Indian children in or around Seminole Oklahoma where Granpa was born. I have searched official school records in that area, and come up empty. > > Lastly, my mother brings native blood from both of her lines. And it is said that several relatives on both the Allen/Combs/Frazier side and her maternal side of: Sergent/Hensley/Lewis/Smith/Hall/Holt/Pennington/Jenkins,etc perished on The Trail of Tears...Is anyone's research heading that way? > > If any out there might see a connection, please contact me: > > moonrose2u@yahoo.com > > > Karen L. Fielding RN,C BS CMSRN > > >---------------------------------------- > > >To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County research, please visit http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have any questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My aunt Lula Pennington (birth date: 1897 and died in 1980) married Larkin Gilbert. He died before 1980, but I'm not sure when. I don't know anything about his family. Jeri S. Commonwealth Construction Co. of VA, Inc. 521 N. Adams St. Richmond, VA 23230 (804) 771-9703 Office (804) 771-9705 Fax (804) 640-8438 Cell -----Original Message----- From: kyclay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kyclay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KYPHILPOT@aol.com Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 6:46 PM To: kyclay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Johnson Roberts The only Gilberts I have in my files are females that married into my Hensley family line and I'm afraid I don't have much information on them. Anna Gilbert married John Hensley in 1874, Clay County, Nancy Gilbert married Isham Hensley in 1889, and a Paralee Gilbert married Squire D. Hensley in 1901, she was his fourth wife. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Jerry. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ---------------------------------------- To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County research, please visit http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have any questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

RESPONSE: You are quite right that at least in the State of KY (and I assume in other eastern and southern and midwestern states), one would see either Mulatto or Black or Negro listed as the race of a person when all the relatives of that person seemed to agree the person was actually of Native American descent. I know I have never seen anyone listed in KY (that I can recall) who was listed as either Indian or NA (Native American). It makes me think that the census enumerators were not even given that choice when making a determination of the person's race. If one's skin color was darker than that person would have considered to be the norm, they became either Black or Mulatto. Now, in the Western States such as in OK, AZ and other places, you will find persons listed in the earlier censuses as "Indian". I really don't recall that the term, Native American, had even come into play before 1900. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA p.s. The sad and unfortunate truth in those days was that a person of Native American descent would have been looked down on and would have made every attempt to blend into the population without calling attention to his heritage. Many, in fact, moved into the Western states in order to live in peace. In a message dated 7/7/2007 11:59:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, woodster1@fuse.net writes: > Jesse was actually married to Sally Edwards. Married 15 July 1814 and > divorced July 1824. They had two children to our knowledge. Tradition is > that she left after the divorce and moved to Ohio. Sally was white. Jesse > > later had a woman living with him that was listed as "black" on the census > report. Tradition is that she was an Indian because a lot of Indians were > listed back then as black. Makes no difference except us genealogist like > to know for certain the nationality of our ancestors. He had two children > with Sally and I have been in contact with a descendent of Phebe, one of the > > children by Jesse and Sally. > Barb

Jesse was actually married to Sally Edwards. Married 15 July 1814 and divorced July 1824. They had two children to our knowledge. Tradition is that she left after the divorce and moved to Ohio. Sally was white. Jesse later had a woman living with him that was listed as "black" on the census report. Tradition is that she was an Indian because a lot of Indians were listed back then as black. Makes no difference except us genealogist like to know for certain the nationality of our ancestors. He had two children with Sally and I have been in contact with a descendent of Phebe, one of the children by Jesse and Sally. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "moonrose2u" <moonrose2u@yahoo.com> To: <KYCLAY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: [KYCLAY] help!!! > IMy husband has been hospitalized for a serious illness, and I am just now > getting back into the 'genealogicial' swing of things and doing my > research. If anyone has contacted me personally for information that I > might have please do so again, so I can be of helps Is anyone tracing the > following lines: > Salley/Salley Edwards ('mulatto or native american" who md. or was common > in law wife or slave to Jesse Barrett > > Lydia Barrett (possibly md. a Griffin/Griffith/Griffis/Grifen who md. > Irven Allen. Daughter Lucinda (of the Clay County Allens) b. 1856 md. > George Frazier/Frasure/Frasier for 1 yr, had daugher Ollie and divorced > and was living with 'aunt' 'Giney Grifen" (misspellings courtesy of census > taker) who was listed as 'mulatto" (native american-family has had DNA > test- mother is 25% native american) and Lucinda then married JK Martin. > Gramps insisted that Joe and Giney received Indian allottment monies; > there are nearly 100 Griffens on various Indian rolls, and to send for > each application packet to verify family information would cost a small > fortune! Some records show Ollie as Frasier and others including school > record show her as "Ollie Martin"....George Frazier disappeared and > probably remarried. I think his family may have been Solomon Frazier > line, but not sure. > > Ollie went on to marry Ameridith Combs-I have the Combs line back to > Englnd- and they traveled to Oklahoma in 1907 where she gave birth to my > grandfather in 1908. Family tradition says that she was a schoolteacher > like her stepfather JK Martin, and taught Indian children in or around > Seminole Oklahoma where Granpa was born. I have searched official school > records in that area, and come up empty. > > Lastly, my mother brings native blood from both of her lines. And it is > said that several relatives on both the Allen/Combs/Frazier side and her > maternal side of: > Sergent/Hensley/Lewis/Smith/Hall/Holt/Pennington/Jenkins,etc perished on > The Trail of Tears...Is anyone's research heading that way? > > If any out there might see a connection, please contact me: > > moonrose2u@yahoo.com > > > Karen L. Fielding RN,C BS CMSRN > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County > research, please visit > http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have any > questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email > kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Jesse Barrett is my ggg grandfather. My record shows that he had two children by whom we think was an Indian woman because of the designation of "Black" on the census report. I have contact with one of the descendents of this union. Other than the children's names we have no other info on her. Would like to share info with you. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "moonrose2u" <moonrose2u@yahoo.com> To: <KYCLAY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: [KYCLAY] help!!! > IMy husband has been hospitalized for a serious illness, and I am just now > getting back into the 'genealogicial' swing of things and doing my > research. If anyone has contacted me personally for information that I > might have please do so again, so I can be of helps Is anyone tracing the > following lines: > Salley/Salley Edwards ('mulatto or native american" who md. or was common > in law wife or slave to Jesse Barrett > > Lydia Barrett (possibly md. a Griffin/Griffith/Griffis/Grifen who md. > Irven Allen. Daughter Lucinda (of the Clay County Allens) b. 1856 md. > George Frazier/Frasure/Frasier for 1 yr, had daugher Ollie and divorced > and was living with 'aunt' 'Giney Grifen" (misspellings courtesy of census > taker) who was listed as 'mulatto" (native american-family has had DNA > test- mother is 25% native american) and Lucinda then married JK Martin. > Gramps insisted that Joe and Giney received Indian allottment monies; > there are nearly 100 Griffens on various Indian rolls, and to send for > each application packet to verify family information would cost a small > fortune! Some records show Ollie as Frasier and others including school > record show her as "Ollie Martin"....George Frazier disappeared and > probably remarried. I think his family may have been Solomon Frazier > line, but not sure. > > Ollie went on to marry Ameridith Combs-I have the Combs line back to > Englnd- and they traveled to Oklahoma in 1907 where she gave birth to my > grandfather in 1908. Family tradition says that she was a schoolteacher > like her stepfather JK Martin, and taught Indian children in or around > Seminole Oklahoma where Granpa was born. I have searched official school > records in that area, and come up empty. > > Lastly, my mother brings native blood from both of her lines. And it is > said that several relatives on both the Allen/Combs/Frazier side and her > maternal side of: > Sergent/Hensley/Lewis/Smith/Hall/Holt/Pennington/Jenkins,etc perished on > The Trail of Tears...Is anyone's research heading that way? > > If any out there might see a connection, please contact me: > > moonrose2u@yahoo.com > > > Karen L. Fielding RN,C BS CMSRN > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County > research, please visit > http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have any > questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email > kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

IMy husband has been hospitalized for a serious illness, and I am just now getting back into the 'genealogicial' swing of things and doing my research. If anyone has contacted me personally for information that I might have please do so again, so I can be of helps Is anyone tracing the following lines: Salley/Salley Edwards ('mulatto or native american" who md. or was common in law wife or slave to Jesse Barrett Lydia Barrett (possibly md. a Griffin/Griffith/Griffis/Grifen who md. Irven Allen. Daughter Lucinda (of the Clay County Allens) b. 1856 md. George Frazier/Frasure/Frasier for 1 yr, had daugher Ollie and divorced and was living with 'aunt' 'Giney Grifen" (misspellings courtesy of census taker) who was listed as 'mulatto" (native american-family has had DNA test- mother is 25% native american) and Lucinda then married JK Martin. Gramps insisted that Joe and Giney received Indian allottment monies; there are nearly 100 Griffens on various Indian rolls, and to send for each application packet to verify family information would cost a small fortune! Some records show Ollie as Frasier and others including school record show her as "Ollie Martin"....George Frazier disappeared and probably remarried. I think his family may have been Solomon Frazier line, but not sure. Ollie went on to marry Ameridith Combs-I have the Combs line back to Englnd- and they traveled to Oklahoma in 1907 where she gave birth to my grandfather in 1908. Family tradition says that she was a schoolteacher like her stepfather JK Martin, and taught Indian children in or around Seminole Oklahoma where Granpa was born. I have searched official school records in that area, and come up empty. Lastly, my mother brings native blood from both of her lines. And it is said that several relatives on both the Allen/Combs/Frazier side and her maternal side of: Sergent/Hensley/Lewis/Smith/Hall/Holt/Pennington/Jenkins,etc perished on The Trail of Tears...Is anyone's research heading that way? If any out there might see a connection, please contact me: moonrose2u@yahoo.com Karen L. Fielding RN,C BS CMSRN

Sorry, I only had their names because of the marriage. I have no parental information. Jerry. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Thanks for your information. B. W. -----Original Message----- >From: wpjohnson02 <wpjohnson02@alltel.net> >Sent: Jul 5, 2007 10:45 PM >To: 'Betty & Jasper' <jasperwages@kih.net>, kyclay@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [KYCLAY] marriage record > >Write to the Clay County Court Clerk, Manchester, Ky. They did charge $2.00 >for the record and $3.00 for doing the look up. Don't know if they have >changed their prices or not. If you visit the Clay Co. Web Site it will >give you the full address of the Clerk's office and his telephone number, or >at least it did. > >-----Original Message----- >From: kyclay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kyclay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Betty & Jasper >Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:43 PM >To: kyclay@rootsweb.com; kyclay@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] marriage record > > >This may help: > >Office of Vital Statistics >275 East Main Street. 1E-A >Frankfort, Kentucky. 40621 > >Phone number: > >502-564-4212 > > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: walter peak <iamhere@frontiernet.net> >>Sent: Jul 5, 2007 6:38 PM >>To: kyclay@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [KYCLAY] marriage record >> >>Could anyone please tell me how I can get a copy of the following marriage >record by mail? >> >>William Alcorn & Deborah Phillips married in Clay Co. 1810. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Walter Peak >>---------------------------------------- >> >> >>To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County >research, please visit >http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have any >questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email >kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >---------------------------------------- > > >To review the Welcome message and find useful links for Clay County >research, please visit >http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~beckyjs3/clayco.html. If you have any >questions or need help regarding this mailing list, please email >kyclay-admin@rootsweb.com. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KYCLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks Joyce. As always you are a great help. Jerry. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.