Ask her which child that she is from out of GtGtGrs John E. Bowling(1837=Ky)& Sarah/Sally Ann Baker. Thanks, Gerri Hoskins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie" <jamiejhunter@hotmail.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 12:14 PM Subject: [KYCLAY] Baker Reunion > Hello! > > I have a friend who lives in KY and might like to attend the Baker (she is a > descendent of Sally Baker and John Bowling) reunion but she doesn't have > access to a computer so I'm not certain if she knows of it. Is there a > person who might be able to contact me off list with a phone number so > someone she would be able to call about information, directions, etc? > > Thank you very much! > jamie in california >

Debbie, I'm from the King David Line also! My GtGtGrs were "Bear Creek"Jim Bowling & Martha/Patsy Benge. if you don't mind, I would like a copy of the line also. Thanks, Gerri Hoskins ----- Original Message ----- From: <Windycitypat@cs.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] King David Chapter of DAR > In a message dated 5/4/03 7:41:27 AM US Eastern Standard Time, > LBlack8978@aol.com writes: > > > > > > List, > > > > Does anyone have any information about the King David Benge chapter of the > > DAR that was begun in Clay Co several years ago? > > > > Thank you, > > Debbie > > > > Debbie: > > > > If you get this information I would like it too as I am descended from King > > David Benge. > > > > Patty >

Debbie is thiss the one he kin to me here my family Frome my cousin Kin we got his picture Edith Here is King David Benge's bloodline to you and me. Your Byrd Cousin, Ken John Wesley Byrd   b. 3.14.1860 d. 2.10.1950 m. Jane McWhorter   b. 8.28.1960 d. 3.23.1924 Children Laura Byrd   b. 3.19.1882 d. 2.19.1946 Nora Byrd   b. 9.13.1884 d. 1917 Campbell (Cam) Byrd   b. 2.15.1886 d. 12.17.1963 Martha Byrd   b. 3.10.1888 d. 5.1908 Benjamin (Ben) Harrison Byrd   b. 2.15.1892 Jefferson (Jeff)Byrd   b. 7.4.1895 d. 3.22.1942 Gertrude Byrd   b. 4.25.1897 d. 1916 Sophia Byrd   b. 3.10.1901 d. 11.10.1972 Sherman   b. 2.3.1904 d. 4.11.1966 Charlotte (Lottie) Byrd b. 4.4.1908 d. 1.11.2001 Elijah McWhorter   b. 9.17.1842 d. 1.12.1933 m. Susan D. Parrett   b. 6.22.1841 d. 2.11.1926 Children Jane McWhorter   b. 8.28.1960 d. 3.23.1924 Elizabeth McWhorter   b. 4.9.1863 Lanners McWhorter   b. 8.15.1865 Henry McWhorter   b. 3.22.1867 Martha McWhorter   b. 2.9.1869 Jessie McWhorter   b. 1.19.1873 James (Jeams) McWhorter   b. 2.5.1875 d. 8.21.1967 Jesse Henry McWhorter   b. 1814 m. Lucinda Benge   b. 1822 d. after 1893 Children Nancy Jane McWhorter Mary Elizabeth Allen McWhorter   b. 11.11.1839 d. after 1900 Elijah McWhorter   b. 9.17.1842 d. 1.12.1933 John McWhorter   b. about 1844 Rev. Henry Harrison McWhorter b. 5.10.1847 d. 11.24.1920 William Jefferson McWhorter   b. about 1849 David McWhorter   b. 12.13.1859 d. 11.5.1940 Martha Jane McWhorter Oliver Harrison Perry McWhorter James C. McWhorter Thomas Franklin McWhorter   b. 5.9.1865 d. 5.22.1945 John David (Jackie) Benge   b. 1797 d. before 1860 m. 1.9. 1817 Philadelphia Ann (Delphia) Harrison b. about 1800 Children Sallie Ann Benge   b. before 1814 Martha (Patsy) Harrison Benge   b. 2.15.1815 d.6.1.1900 David (Smiling Dave) Benge Lydia Ann (Ludie) Benge   b. before 1818 Nancy Ann Benge   b. about 1828 Evaline Benge   b. 1832 Melvina Ann (Bina) Benge   b. about 1836 James Lewis (Jim Crow) Benge   b.1840 Virginia M. (Jennie) Benge   b.1843 Eliza Jane (Ann P.) Benge   b. 3.1835 d.about 1902 Elizabeth Ann (Betsy/Betty) Benge   b. before 1822 Lucinda Benge   b. 1822 d. after 1893 King   David Benge   b. 8.1760 d. 3.3.1854 m. 1783 Lucinda Perry   b. about 1770 d. about 1845 Children Joel Benge   b. 1786 d. 12.1.1866 Sarah Benge   b. 1787 Elizabeth (Bettie) Benge   b. 1790 d. 1860 Anna Benge b. 1795   d. after 1860 John David (Jackie) Benge   b. 1797 d. before 1860 William (Bugger Bill) Benge   b.1799 Thomas Benge   b. 1.1.1801   d. 8.18 1879 Micajah Benge   b.1802 Lewis Franklin Benge   b. 7.8. 1805 d. 7.26.1900 Nancy Benge   b.1807 Lucinda Benge   b. 1809 David (Long Dave) Benge   b. 5.1816 d. 1903

In a message dated 5/4/03 7:41:27 AM US Eastern Standard Time, LBlack8978@aol.com writes: > > > List, > > Does anyone have any information about the King David Benge chapter of the > DAR that was begun in Clay Co several years ago? > > Thank you, > Debbie > > Debbie: > > If you get this information I would like it too as I am descended from King > David Benge. > > Patty

Hi Cousins: Just a reminder about the Clay County Reading Celebration.  If you are in the area, it would be great to see you. Best wishes, Dr Kin Tankersley Announcement May 22 – The fourth annual Clay County Reading Celebration at Manchester Elementary School will feature book signing by the following authors: Silas House, Anne Shelby, Loyal Jones, David Dick, Lallie Dick, Rebecca Bailey, Linda Pack, Pat Banks, Lynwood Montell, Jim Hays, Rob Williams, Leatha Kendrick, Robert Mason, Kenneth Tankersley, Bryan Auxier, Regina Daniels, Clyde Pack, Graham Shelby, Shawana Hopkins, and Nancy Allen. It will also include murals painted by students working with artists Pat Banks and Alfredo Escobar and an exhibit of artwork by students working with Rebekka Seigel.  There will also be plays, music, and literary based games and activities for the whole family. Free and open to the public.  for more information call Karen Lawson at 606-598-1601.  Sponsored by the Clay County Reading Celebration Committee in partnership with Clay County Schools with partial funding for art projects from the Kentucky Arts Council and Hacker/Manchester Family Resource Center. Judy Sizemore South/Southeast Region Kentucky Arts Council 217 Black Lick Road McKee, Ky  40447 606-364-5831    FAX: 606-364-2940 <A HREF="mailto:circuit@prtcnet.org">circuit@prtcnet.org</A> CLICK ON <A HREF="http://www.readingcelebration.org/">http://www.readingcelebration.org/</A>

Hi Cousins: Just a reminder about the Clay County Reading Celebration.  If you are in the area, it would be great to see you. Best wishes, DR Kin Tankersley Announcement May 22 – The fourth annual Clay County Reading Celebration at Manchester Elementary School will feature book signing by the following authors: Silas House, Anne Shelby, Loyal Jones, David Dick, Lallie Dick, Rebecca Bailey, Linda Pack, Pat Banks, Lynwood Montell, Jim Hays, Rob Williams, Leatha Kendrick, Robert Mason, Kenneth Tankersley, Bryan Auxier, Regina Daniels, Clyde Pack, Graham Shelby, Shawana Hopkins, and Nancy Allen. It will also include murals painted by students working with artists Pat Banks and Alfredo Escobar and an exhibit of artwork by students working with Rebekka Seigel.  There will also be plays, music, and literary based games and activities for the whole family. Free and open to the public.  for more information call Karen Lawson at 606-598-1601.  Sponsored by the Clay County Reading Celebration Committee in partnership with Clay County Schools with partial funding for art projects from the Kentucky Arts Council and Hacker/Manchester Family Resource Center. Judy Sizemore South/Southeast Region Kentucky Arts Council 217 Black Lick Road McKee, Ky  40447 606-364-5831    FAX: 606-364-2940 <A HREF="mailto:circuit@prtcnet.org">circuit@prtcnet.org</A> CLICK ON <A HREF="http://www.readingcelebration.org/">http://www.readingcelebration.org/</A>

Hi Cousins: Just a reminder about the Clay County Reading Celebration.  If you are in the area, it would be great to see you. Best wishes, DR Kin Tankersley Announcement May 22 – The fourth annual Clay County Reading Celebration at Manchester Elementary School will feature book signing by the following authors: Silas House, Anne Shelby, Loyal Jones, David Dick, Lallie Dick, Rebecca Bailey, Linda Pack, Pat Banks, Lynwood Montell, Jim Hays, Rob Williams, Leatha Kendrick, Robert Mason, Kenneth Tankersley, Bryan Auxier, Regina Daniels, Clyde Pack, Graham Shelby, Shawana Hopkins, and Nancy Allen. It will also include murals painted by students working with artists Pat Banks and Alfredo Escobar and an exhibit of artwork by students working with Rebekka Seigel.  There will also be plays, music, and literary based games and activities for the whole family. Free and open to the public.  for more information call Karen Lawson at 606-598-1601.  Sponsored by the Clay County Reading Celebration Committee in partnership with Clay County Schools with partial funding for art projects from the Kentucky Arts Council and Hacker/Manchester Family Resource Center. Judy Sizemore South/Southeast Region Kentucky Arts Council 217 Black Lick Road McKee, Ky  40447 606-364-5831    FAX: 606-364-2940 <A HREF="mailto:circuit@prtcnet.org">circuit@prtcnet.org</A> CLICK ON <A HREF="http://www.readingcelebration.org/">http://www.readingcelebration.org/</A>

List, Does anyone have any information about the King David Benge chapter of the DAR that was begun in Clay Co several years ago? Thank you, Debbie

Dear Mrs. Ball   Thank you very much for copying your message to us.  We would very much like to send you information which will help you understand the circumstances of the death of your cousin, Bert H. Ray, who served in Company G, 222nd Infantry Regiment, 42nd Infantry Rainbow Division and who was killed in action on January 25, 1945.   Will you let me know your USPS mailing address?  I will need  to send most of this information to you by regular mail.  For now, attached to this e-mail is a photo of your cousin which is being sent to you by a Rainbow Division veteran, Arthur N. "Art" Lee, Jr., who is providing this information to all of us.  He has asked that I send this and other information to you. Art Lee writes: The photo is printed on page 107 in the historical and pictorial review book 242D INFANTRY REGIMENT, 42D INFANTRY DIVISION, printed by the Army and Navy Publishing Company of Louisiana, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, 1944. We know, from primary source records, that Bert H. Ray was a member of Co. "G", 2nd Bn., 222nd Inf. Regt. and that he was killed in action (KIA) at Schweighausen, France on 25 January 1945. We know that on the day Ray was killed his unit, the 222nd Inf. Regt., was engaged in combat with the mission of "...containing and throwing back the German breakthrough in the Moder River Line at Ohlungen Forest, near Haguenau, in Alsace, France." In the 49 page after action report written about the events of the battle fought in the Ohlungen Forest, during the 3 day period 24-26 January 1945, the following, in part, is reported concerning Co. "G", 2nd Bn., 222nd Inf. Regt.:      -..........................................................-      "Sgt. Decaline [Co. "E", 2nd Bn., 222nd Inf. Regt.], whom Lt. Carroll [same company] had sent back earlier that night [night of 24-25 January 1945] to the 2nd Battalion Aid Station in Ohlungen, had gone first to the Battalion CP [Command Post] and at 2130 hours [9:30 P.M.] had reported the news of E Company's plight.  He said that about 150 Germans had broken through in the region of the firebreak.  Major Downard, seeing that he was excited and shocked from his wound, discounted his figure, and decided to send G Company, his reserve company, to close the gap and reestablish that part of the MLR [Main Line of Resistance].  So he ordered Capt. Jere F. Palmes to take his men up through the forest, to follow the creek that cuts off its southeastern corner, to cross the creek and to attack the Germans to the North.  If G Company had gone this way, it might have contacted E Company which had not yet withdrawn, and it might have helped check the flow of Germans through the firebreak.      But the breakthrough was already too well made to stop, and by the time G Company was on its way many - probably most - of the Germans who had come over were on their way eastward, after the retreating 2nd Platoon of F Company towards Schweighausen.  Evidently they meant to attack Schweighausen immediately, without waiting for their right to be secured by the taking of Uhlwiller and the high ground outside Ohlungen.  So when G Company failed to follow its assigned route - when instead of crossing the creek northward, it followed the south side of the creek northeastwards, out of the woods into the clearing that separates the neck from the body 0f the forest - they moved not upon that part of the enemy penetration they had been ordered to attack but on one equally, if not more, threatening.  And although they failed to accomplish their mission, they did much to stem the German advance upon Schweighausen.      Soon after 2200 [10:00 P.M.] G Company came out of the woods, the 3rd Platoon on the left, the 1st on the right, four scouts leading each platoon.  The rest of the company followed.  Because they could only see 150 yards ahead, they moved slowly across the clearing.  It was very quiet.  But when the 1st scouts reached the edge of the woods on the other side, they touched off a tremendous volley of fire.  Two of the scouts were killed, and shortly the advancing platoon were pinned down by what Capt. Palmes estimated to be four machine guns, twelve automatic weapons, and probably a company of riflemen.  Mortar fire zeroed in on them as they lay exposed in the snow.  They were at the complete mercy of the Germans whom they couldn't see, so Capt. Palmes ordered an attack.  As T/Sgt. Zigman Poskus stood up to lead his 3rd Platoon on, a mortar shell hit him directly in the back, but his men moved up, under the momentum of his courage, to gain shorter range on the Enemy.  To their right T/Sgt. Mike Viters [sic - Witers ... deceased 1961] led his 1st Platoon south of the corner of the woods; there they crawled into firing positions and poured flanking mortar and machine gun fire in on the Germans' left.  Both platoons, by moving forward, pulled the whole company out of a hopeless position to one where they were able to fight, from the open snow-covered field, for five hours.  They were in contact with no other unit, and they received no aid.  Shortly after midnight Battalion ordered two tanks to go up to "help get fire off G Company".  But the tanks never found them.  When at about 0500 [5:00 A.M.], the Enemy fire had dwindled, when the men and their arms were wet through from the snow, Capt. Palmes ordered them to withdraw to Ohlungen.  They brought back with them 4 dead and 19 wounded.  After the Battle of Ohlungen Forest had ended, the 222nd found 67 German dead in the neck of the forest, a large part of whom G Company had killed." Based on the aforegoing account, it would seem that one of those members of Co. "G" who were killed, was Bert H. Ray. The Department of the Army maintains an Individual Deceased Personnel File (IDPF) on each individual from all branches of service who died while overseas during World War II. Each file contains such information as:   a.  Full Name of the Deceased.   b.  Army Serial Number.   c.  Grade.   d.  Home Address.   e.  Arm of Service.   f.  Date of Birth.   g.  Place of Death.   h.  Cause of Death.   i.  Date of Death.   j.  Date of Entry on Current Active Service.   k.  Emergency Addressee.   l.  Beneficiary.   m.  Investigation Made.   n.  Remarks The address to which to send a request for a copy of a person's IDPF is:     Army Casualty and Memorial Affairs Operation Center   U.S. Army Total Personnel Command   ATTN:  TAPC-PED-F   2461 Eisenhower Avenue   Alexandria, VA 22331-0482. As much as possible, the following information concerning the deceased should be included in one's request for a copy of the deceased's IDPF:   a. Full Name.   b. Grade.   c. Army Serial Number.   d. Date of Birth.   e. Date of Death.   f.  Place of Death.   g. Unit.   The following information concerning the person placing the request for a copy of the deceased's IDPF should be included in their letter:   a. Relationship, if any, to the Deceased.   b. Reason for the Request.   c. Full Name.   d. Mail Address.   c. Telephone Number.   e. E-mail address.

Joyce thank you Edith

Edith Do you have any information on Cardelia Blevins? Blevins was my Mother's maiden name. Her family was from Madison County, Ky. Della Robinson Boggess

Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-Sender: KYCLAY-L-request@rootsweb.com My aunt Parrie Lee Allen Marred George W Miller he was the son ofThomas Miller &Cardelia Blevins  i love to fin her family here her child Taubbee Miller b 12/ 1996   & Maggie Harrison Betha Miller B 4/1886  &Kentfield Rosie Miller b 4/2/1888 m /George Wolfe John Miller  b 12/21/1891 m  Bessie? Ben Miller b/12.21/1893 m/ no 1 Nannie Gill/ no 2 / Mattie  Rooney Tom Miller b/2/3/1894/ in  Laurel co ky  /10/15/1918 RESPONSE: I see where George GRUBB and Maggie MILLER married in Laurel Co. as follows: Laurel Co. Marriage Index GRUBB, George to MILLER, Maggie on March 13, 1913 in Laurel Co., KY On the 1910 Laurel Co., your George MILLER's family appeared as follows: Dwelling 28-29 MILLER, George W., husband, 43, mar. 2 times, mar. 9 years, b. KY; parents b. KY - coal miner . . .Sallie, wife, 28, mar. 2 times, mar. 9 years, 7 born; 7 living, b. KY; parents b. KY . .John, son, 17, single, Ky . . Thomas, son, 16, KY . .Maggie, dau, 12, KY * * . . Lula, dau, 7, Ky . .Nellie, dau, 5, KY . .Homer, son, 4, Ky . .Kirtie, son, 2, KY . .Tevis, dau, 6 mo's, KY MARRIAGE RECORD: MILLER, G. W. to VENABLE, Sallie on Nov. 12, 1901 in Laurel Co. per Mar. Index In 1920 in Laurel, the family appears as follows: East Bernstadt Prec. Dwelling 290-293 MILLER, George W., husb. 54, b. Ky - miner . . .Sallie, wife, 39, Ky . .Nellie, dau, 15, KY . . Homer, son, 14, Ky . .Curtis, son, 12, Ky . .Tevis, dau, 10, Ky . .Charles, son, 8, KY . .Earl, son, 6, Ky . .Joseph, 1, KY Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Maggie Miller  b /3/9/1893 m  George  Grubb george was my father cousin  i love to here frome the family  Edith Ball byrdball@aol.com <

My aunt Parrie Lee Allen Marred George W Miller he was the son ofThomas Miller &Cardelia Blevins  i love to fin her family here her child Taubbee Miller b 12/ 1996   & Maggie Harrison Betha Miller B 4/1886  &Kentfield Rosie Miller b 4/2/1888 m /George Wolfe John Miller  b 12/21/1891 m  Bessie? Ben Miller b/12.21/1893 m/ no 1 Nannie Gill/ no 2 / Mattie  Rooney Tom Miller b/2/3/1894/ in  Laurel co ky  /10/15/1918 Maggie Miller  b /3/9/1893 m  George  Grubb george was my father cousin  i love to here frome the family  Edith Ball byrdball@aol.com

Hello! I have a friend who lives in KY and might like to attend the Baker (she is a descendent of Sally Baker and John Bowling) reunion but she doesn't have access to a computer so I'm not certain if she knows of it. Is there a person who might be able to contact me off list with a phone number so someone she would be able to call about information, directions, etc? Thank you very much! jamie in california

Edith, have you ever heard of Malinda or Lindy Baker that married Ezekiel Sizemore (High Zeke)? Della From: KYCLAY-D-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com To: KYCLAY-D@rootsweb.com Subject: KYCLAY-D Digest V03 #99 Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 04:16:22 -0600 << message2.txt >> << message4.txt >> << message6.txt >> << message8.txt >> << message10.txt >> << message12.txt >> << message14.txt >> << message16.txt >> << message18.txt >> << message20.txt >> << message22.txt >> << message24.txt >> << message26.txt >> << message28.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Thanks. Enjoyed reading it very much ----- Original Message ----- From: <BYRDBALL@aol.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: [KYCLAY] Chief Red Bird By Dr Kin Tankersley > You may enjoy reading this text about the history of Clay County. > > <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brockfamily/ChiefRedBird-byKB Tankersley.html"> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brockfamily/ChiefRedBird-byKBTanker sle > > y.html</A> > > Edith Ball > >

My cousin said she got more Ponder Book of you like to have one you better get it know Edith Ball here her Email Edith, I am going to take some more Ponder books over to the Clay Historical Society and leave them there for sale - they've been out of books for a long time now so if anybody in Clay wants them, they are back and you wouldn't have to pay the postage if you pick them up instead of me mailing them.  Thanks, Pat 

Edith Is Elizabeth Ponder in there, she was married to James W. Moore, Also looking for a Ponder that married a Hogan. Thanks Sherry Baker Frazier Nashville, Tennessee President Owsley County Historical Society http://owsleykyhist.org http://sherryfrazier.com Support Our Troops I'd rather look for dead people than have 'em look for me!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <BYRDBALL@aol.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 7:52 AM Subject: [KYCLAY] Ponder Book > My cousin said she got more Ponder Book of you like to have one you better > get it know Edith Ball here her Email > Edith, I am going to take some more Ponder books over to the Clay Historical > Society and leave them there for sale - they've been out of books for a long > time now so if anybody in Clay wants them, they are back and you wouldn't > have to pay the postage if you pick them up instead of me mailing them. > Thanks, Pat > > >

Dear Edith, Thank you so much for the link. Stephen Tuder's is supposedly my GGGG-Gran'dad. I thoroughly enjoyed reading about them. So very interesting & sad too. Guilda

Dear Linda, Thanks for the info. It doesn't take much to confuse me, LOL. Kandy