I am looking to see if anyone has researched or is researching the following family. I don't know which Smith family they original came from or even if I have the correct parents for this particular Jabel Smith. Any information would be EXTREMELY appreciated. Jabel Smith s/o Robert Smith Jr. and Rosanna Rody Smith. and his wife Mahala/Mary Delph d/o Jacob Deplh and Mary Baker. I have the following two census for them. 1860 U.S. Census, Hancock Co., TN #70/60 Mahaley Delp, 18, f, TN, Domestic in household of Alfred N. Baldwyn, physician Clay County Census From the 1870, this appears to be him: Dwelling 2 - Precinct #7 SMITH, Jabel, 29, farmer . . Mahala, 24, b. TN (Mahala DELPH mar. 7-23-1862 in Clay Co.) . . John, 6 . . Andrew J., 3 . . George W., 1 A few additional children, but I don't have the census info on them: Loaelle 1871 Daniel 1873 Sarah 1875 Taylor 1878 Frank as Franklin 1880 Jabel and Mahala were married 21 Jul 1862 in Clay County. Any information on their children is greatly appreciate. Who are/were their children? Who did their children marry? Thanks, Cassy. -- Please check out my new free genealogy site. I am currently looking for others willing to share their photographs as well. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~foe3643/

Hi Jess: I would very much like to purchase a copy of the 1784 State Census of the State of North Carolina.Please advise me. thank you so much!! Barbara J. Wooddell woodster1@fuse.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "jess wilson" <jswlsn@prtcnet.org> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > Wilma, there is a state census of the State of North Carolina for the year > of 1784. I could furnish you copy. I think there was a state censu of > Virginia some time in the 1700. I have never seen a state census of > Kentucky, although there is a "FIRST SENSUS OF KENTUCKY 1790, a > reconstruction from tax lists , etc. I think it was a publication of the > Kentucky Historical Society. I will check this and write later. My > information is at the Battle Abbey , it has been raining and I am > bare-footed. \ > > JESS WILSON > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WILMA JOHNSON" <wpjohnson@kih.net> > To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:15 AM > Subject: RE: [KYCLAY] Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > > > > What is the difference in a State Census and a Federal Census? > > > > WILMA JOHNSON > > > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Michael J. Smith <msmith4@gt.rr.com> > > > To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: 6/5/03 1:58:49 AM > > > Subject: [KYCLAY] Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > > > > > > Hi List, > > > Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > > > Thanks, > > > Michael J. SMITH > > > msmith4@gt.rr.com > > > > > > > > >

FIFTH ANNUAL MARCUM REUNION Sunday June 22, 2003 RALPH MARCUM'S HOOTEN OLD TOWN It's that time to mark your calendars for the descendants of Thomas Pleasant & Nancy Margaret Carr Marcum to come together for our family reunion. It's hard to believe another year has gone by so quickly. We will all start gathering around Noon. We ask that everyone bring a covered dish. You may want to bring a few lawn chairs, too. And don't forget to bring your family histories or old pictures you want to share, but PLEASE label them or have them in an album. This year I am including a family chart for you all to fill out & bring back to me. It will only take a few minutes to do, that way I'll make sure I have our family history correct. We are now up to 101 cousins who I am sending these flyers to. Hopefully this year we will have some NEW family members to show up & also we hope that some of the others who haven't been in a while will be back this year. We Miss You!!! If you have any questions or comments feel free to contact: Ralph Marcum 606-287-3855 Tonya Marcum 606-965-2116 Martha Jo Marcum Carr 859-824-9466 DIRECTIONS: Hooten Old Town is located just off Hwy 421 out of McKee. Turn right at McKee Car Wash on Hwy 89 South (Indian Creek Road. Go approximately 2 miles and turn right at the Indian Creek Baptist Church on Hooten Road. The reunion site is only 2 miles up this road.

In a message dated 6/6/03 4:13:04 AM Central Daylight Time, jswlsn@prtcnet.org writes: > the only place where I was born Hey, Jess, Love your sense of humor!! Great writer. Guilda

Looking for documentation stating that Nancy Ann Bowling, born 1827 was the daughter of Jesse Bowling, Jr., born 1800, and Winnie Lewis. Any help appreciated. Thanks Judy Names Researching: Bowling, Bolling, Bolin, Lewis, Pennington, Begley, Wooten, Stacey. Jesse Bowling Jr. son of Jesse Bowling Sr. born 1758 NC (Bowling/Bolling serevd in American Revolution) and Mary Pennington Married 1771 Lee county, VA

Cousins, As you may know, I am and have been a storyteller for 27 years. I lived and went to school in Clay County - graduated from Oneida. As a part of my storytelling and writing, i have started an online series of short stories and musings to share with folks. If you would like to read some of it, go to: http://mountainstories.easyjournal.com While you are there drop me a note and let me know you were there. Oh, by the way, I talk about a hometown of Beloved...it exists only in my dreams. It is a place where everybody would want to be from, where all is good and dreams always come true. If you look close, you'll see a little of Manchester in Beloved. Stephen Hollen Appalachian Storyteller & Mountain Humorist My Daddy says Happiness is like Moonshine; Make your own and you'll never run out. www.mountainstories.com online journal: http://mountainstories.easyjournal.com

brenda, To get to the W[gwam at the Heaad of Possum Trot Hollow from Manchester take Hwy U. S. 421 13 miles north. You will see Possum Trot Road on your right just after you see a large, two story, white house on your left, the only place where I was born. Slow down and turn right on the best marked county road in the county. From there follow signs for two miles to the Wigwam. We will be glad to see you when you arrive. If you have any doubt about where you are, stop and get out and stomp the ground. If it feels like no where else on earth you are on Possum Trot. JESS WILSON 794 POSSUM TROT ROAD MANCHESTER KY 40962 1 606 364 5867 tr ----- Original Message ----- From: "brenda johnston" <bjjonline@hotmail.com> To: <jswlsn@prtcnet.org> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:18 PM Subject: Baker Reunion > Jess, We will be coming to the Boston Baker reunion this year, and I need > directions to your house from Manchester, KY. Looking forward to seeing you > and Ruth then. My brothers are planning to come also, and I would love for > them to meet you. See you soon, Brenda Baker Johnston bjjonline@hotmail.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >

Here my family Daniel W Murray & Elizbeth Ponder Martha Murray B 8/30/1839 nc d 3/18/1907 clay co ky marred Gw Ball Ellender Elizabeth Murray b 1843 nc d 1879 clay co ky Ellender Elizabeth Murray Marred Theophilus Hensley 11/24/1862 Mary Elizabeth Hensley Daughter of Ellender Elizabeth Murray and Theo Hensley Marred Franklin Doctor Brewster 6/8/1882 Franklin Droctor Brewster was the son of Skillen Brewster & Mary McDaniel children Martha Brewster b 1883 Mary Brewster B 7/1884 James R Brewster 8/1889 Alfred H Brewster b 7/1892 Celia Brewster b/7/1890 Nathen Brewster b 3/1894 Skillen Brewster b 9/1897/ Lucy Brewster b1900 Rosa Brewster B 1902 she marred Lester H Burns my father sais we was kin to Lester H Burns Jr i can rembert that in the 1850 i hop thiss is right Edith Ball Daniel W Murray& Elizibith Ponder Martha Murray & GW Ball Robert Ball & Bettie Allen Harvey Ball & Edna Byrd Me Edith Ball & Bill caudill i be 67 year old in feb i can rembert lot the cousin Edith

Hi Edith; In April , when I visited Kentucky, I tried looking up information on my grandfather Abijah Burns' first wife, MARTHA BREWSTER. The date I have for that marriage is November 19, 1903. The marriage file # 32 was empty, therefore I could not determine her parents. Any information you can offer would be great. My grandfather's second marriage was to TELLIA WILSON, my grandmother, in February 27,1906. Thanks Edith. Cosetta Hacker Dowdell see ya c

Wilma, there is a state census of the State of North Carolina for the year of 1784. I could furnish you copy. I think there was a state censu of Virginia some time in the 1700. I have never seen a state census of Kentucky, although there is a "FIRST SENSUS OF KENTUCKY 1790, a reconstruction from tax lists , etc. I think it was a publication of the Kentucky Historical Society. I will check this and write later. My information is at the Battle Abbey , it has been raining and I am bare-footed. \ JESS WILSON ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILMA JOHNSON" <wpjohnson@kih.net> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:15 AM Subject: RE: [KYCLAY] Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > What is the difference in a State Census and a Federal Census? > > WILMA JOHNSON > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Michael J. Smith <msmith4@gt.rr.com> > > To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 6/5/03 1:58:49 AM > > Subject: [KYCLAY] Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > > > > Hi List, > > Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > > Thanks, > > Michael J. SMITH > > msmith4@gt.rr.com > > > >

Hi to Edith, I just wanted to add that my grandfather Isom Scott was married a short time to Lucy Brewster. It apparently didn't work out and they divorced. A couple of years passed and he married my grandmother Gracie Campbell. I am grateful to you for posting that information. I have searched to try to find out who this Lucy Brewster was. Thanks, Debbie Scott Wells

I love to find my cousin on the Burns and Brewster Mary E Hensley & Frank Dr Brewster marred 8/6/1867 Children Martha Brewster was born 4/1883 Mary Brewster 7/1884 James R Brewter b /8/1889 clay co ky marred Ida Burns 2/30/ 1909 clay co ky Alfred H Brewster b 7/1892 clay co ky Celia Brewster b /1890 clay co ky Nathen Brewster b 3/1894 clay co ky Skillen Brewster b 9/1897 clay co ky marred Polly Stidham /6/28/1920 clay co ky Lucy Brewster b 1902 clay co ky married Lester H Burns 12/25 1919 i love to fin my cousin Edith Ball

What is the difference in a State Census and a Federal Census? WILMA JOHNSON > [Original Message] > From: Michael J. Smith <msmith4@gt.rr.com> > To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 6/5/03 1:58:49 AM > Subject: [KYCLAY] Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > > Hi List, > Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > Thanks, > Michael J. SMITH > msmith4@gt.rr.com >

Hi List, I am asking if there are any STATE census, not U.S. FEDERAL census, for Kentucky? What years? State censuses rank with federal censuses as a major genealogical resource, but, because they were taken randomly, remain a much under-utilized resource in American genealogy. State censuses not only stand as substitutes for some of the missing 1790, 1800, 1810, and 1890 censuses (as well as many county and statewide enumerations lost or destroyed between 1790 and 1890) but also as valuable population enumerations in their own right. Many state censuses, for example, asked different questions than the federal census, so they record information that cannot be found elsewhere in federal schedules. Thanks, Michael J. SMITH msmith4@gt.rr.com

Hi Wilma, Other Censuses Many states also had their own census, sometimes at more frequent intervals. There are census returns in other countries also. Canada and Great Britain have census for every 10 years since 1841. There are not nearly as many indexes for these census as for the U.S. ones, but there is an online index of the 1871 census for Ontario. Because of their 100 year confidentiality rule, only 1841-1891 are open to the public. They can also be obtained from the Family History Library. Michael J. SMITH msmith4@gt.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILMA JOHNSON" <wpjohnson@kih.net> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com>; "Michael J. Smith" <msmith4@gt.rr.com> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:15 AM Subject: RE: [KYCLAY] Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > What is the difference in a State Census and a Federal Census? > > WILMA JOHNSON > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Michael J. Smith <msmith4@gt.rr.com> > > To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 6/5/03 1:58:49 AM > > Subject: [KYCLAY] Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > > > > Hi List, > > Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > > Thanks, > > Michael J. SMITH > > msmith4@gt.rr.com > > > > > >

This website <A HREF="http://www.census-online.com/links/KY/">http://www.census-online.com/links/KY/</A> provides links to all KY census records that are available online for FREE. <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com">http://www.ancestry.com</A> and <A HREF="http://www.Genealogy.com">http://www.Genealogy.com</A> have all years that are available for a FEE. Family Search <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/">http://www.familysearch.org/</A> has all counties and states for the 1880 census online for FREE. Kristie Setser <A HREF="http://www.gentrails.com">http://www.gentrails.com</A> <A HREF="http://www.gentrails.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi">http://www.gentrails.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi</A>

Hi List, Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? Thanks, Michael J. SMITH msmith4@gt.rr.com

Here what was in the ky Post about Kin Book Edith Column by David Wecker On one wall in Dr. Ken Tankersley's study in Highland Heights, Ky., is a sepia-tone photograph of his great-grandfather, John Wesley Byrd, white-haired, square-jawed, his family gathered around. The portrait was made some time after he lost an eye in a shotgun blast. "That occurred at a still in Fogertown, over in Clay County," Ken says. "Tubhead Cornett ran the still. They were drinking when a dispute broke out over something or other. Tubhead pulled a shotgun and would've blown my great-grandfather's head off were it not been for the quick thinking of his cousin, Doublethumb Buttry, who shoved the barrel aside so that all my great-grandfather lost was an eye." Tubhead, OK. But Doublethumb? "One of his thumbs branched off into two," Ken explains. "You had a lot of inter-marrying in that part of Kentucky in those days, especially among people with American Indian ancestry. It's a part of what led to so many stereotypes we have about Appalachian people." The incident nearly left Jane McWhorter a widow a second time. Her first husband, a mixed-blood Powhatan-Cherokee named Delaney Bowling, was beaten and shot in the chest by a band of Ku Klux Klan in the woods near Walnut Grove Church, also in Clay County. Then they shoved his head through the spokes of a wagon and drove off at a full gallop. Jane kept Delaney's bloodstained shirt in a chest and passed it along to her youngest child, Charlotte, who was born in 1908. She moved to Cincinnati, Ken says, to escape the violence of Eastern Kentucky. In 1981, when his mother was cleaning out his Grandma Charlotte's attic, Ken held the shirt in his hands one last time. He suspects his grandmother finally yielded to pressure from his mother to get rid of it. These are pieces of Ken's own history, flint chips from his personal anthropology. He is an eighth-generation Kentuckian and the first of his family to go to college, let alone do post-doctorate work. His heritage is a blend of "Scotch-Irish and Cherokee." He looks more the former with his red hair and blue eyes. But he can remember his father telling his dark-eyed sister to bleach her hair so she would look less like an American Indian. "Stereotypes die hard," Ken says. He is 47, old enough to remember sitting in front of the TV, watching Disney's romanticized version of the Davy Crockett story, where all the Indians were bad guys. He remembers, too, watching the Lone Ranger, whose Tonto was Uncle Tom in buckskin. "It wasn't until Wounded Knee, in 1973, that it was OK to be an American Indian, and acceptable to be proud of that heritage." Dr. Tankersley is an author, cancer survivor, anthropologist, research associate for the Cleveland Museum of Natural History, historian, consultant for the British Broadcasting Company and a chronic dyslexic. His newest book, "In Search of Ice Age Americans," (Gibbs Smith, $24.95) is a remarkable and highly readable collection of untold tales of the most important archeological discoveries in American history. One of that book's spinoffs is a TV production, "What   Killed the Mega Beasts?" which premiered in August on the Discovery Channel. "Mega Beasts" is his term for the huge mammals that once populated the region —  the mastadon, the mammoth, the giant sloth, to name a few. So what killed them? "I think, beyond a reasonable doubt, it was global warming," he says. "Did people have a hand in it? Absolutely. They hunted and killed. But the huge mammoths would have died out without people. There was a time when, as a child, you would have seen mammoths walking the landscape —  and 40 years later, they were gone." One chapter in particular, about Big Bone Lick in Boone County, should be required reading in every school in Northern Kentucky. He describes the significance of the ancient salt lick: "Big Bone will forever have a place in the history of science because it provided the likes of Benjamin Franklin (and) Thomas Jefferson —  evidence of the Ice Age, the giant creatures that lived during that time, and the people that hunted them." These days, he's working on three TV documentaries —  including one inspired by the book about a year in the life of a band of Stone Age people. The working title is "Monsters We Met." He's also working on three books. One, he's not allowed to discuss because of an agreement with his publishers. The other two have these working titles —  "Lakota Land" and "Kentucky Cherokee: People of the Cave." He likes tracking down stories that aren't in history books, coming across what either has been long-forgotten or was distorted long ago to suit someone's bias. His attention flits eagerly from one subject to the next —  from the Ice Age to the War against the Cherokees in the 1790s, from why Kentucky is so rich in history and so misunderstood to the French commander who brought 440 men to Big Bone Lick in 1729. For a moment, the conversation touches on Harriette Simpson Arnow's novel, "The Dollmaker," about the struggle of an Appalachian family that moves to Detroit during World War II. It was like that for Ken's dad. He tried finding work in Jackson and Clay counties after the Korean War, then moved to Cincinnati to take a job at the Ford transmission plant in Fairfax. Because of that, Ken says, it became possible for him to attend the University of Cincinnati. "I taught at Purcell High School for four years, but I couldn't really read until I was in my early 20s —  did I mention my dyslexia is chronic?" he says. He got along, he says, because he has almost a photographic memory. And because of a special education teacher at Purcell who noticed he seemed to have a problem, although he was good at hiding it. "It was because of that, essentially, that I learned to read," he says. "Once I reached that point, it opened a whole new world. That's why I write so voraciously. If I were to stop, the dyslexia would take over again. "So I can't stop. The fortunate thing is, I love what I do." Contact David Wecker at 352-2791 or via e-mail at sambets@choice.net. Publication Date: 11-09-2002   Thiss was in the cint Post  

In a message dated 6/3/03 11:39:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, joycecollins@compuserve.com writes: > > > RESPONSE: > Hello, > > Here is this family on the 1920 Clay co. Fed. census as follows in Otter > Creek, Prec. 8 > Dwelling 47-127 > SMITH, Will, 29, husband, b. KY; parents b. KY > . .Sallie, wife, 30, b. KY; parents b. KY > . .Andrew, 9, son, b. KY > . .Cora, 6, dau, b. KY (per birth CD's: born in Clay Co. 1-24-1913 > > Their marriage record appears as follows on the Clay Co. marriage index. > Perhaps you might want to order it in case it lists the parents. > > SMITH, William to HUBBARD, Sallie, lic. date: 31 July 1906; marr. date: 1 > Aug 1906, File 33 > > Joyce Taylor Collins > La Palma, CA > > Thanks so much Joyce. Charlotte

RESPONSE: Hello, Here is this family on the 1920 Clay co. Fed. census as follows in Otter Creek, Prec. 8 Dwelling 47-127 SMITH, Will, 29, husband, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Sallie, wife, 30, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Andrew, 9, son, b. KY . .Cora, 6, dau, b. KY (per birth CD's: born in Clay Co. 1-24-1913 Their marriage record appears as follows on the Clay Co. marriage index. Perhaps you might want to order it in case it lists the parents. SMITH, William to HUBBARD, Sallie, lic. date: 31 July 1906; marr. date: 1 Aug 1906, File 33 Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >I am looking for information on this family. Does anyone know who William Smith and Sallie Hubbard's parents were? Thanks, Charlotte Miller Descendants of William Smith 1 William Smith b: Abt. 1891 in KY. .. +Sallie Hubbard b: Abt. 1890 in KY. m: August 01, 1906 in Kentucky ....... 2 Andrew Smith b: 1911 in KY. ....... 2 Cora L. Smith b: January 24, 1913 in KY. <