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    1. [KYCLAY] Polly Allen
    2. Hi List Members! I'd like information on Polly Allen who was 31 in the 1850 Breathitt Co. census. She lived with several Allens who were younger,,,,,Lettie, 15, and Phoeby , 13, Franklin , 5. Any help would be appreciated on this family group. Sincerely, Nancy Morris Brown

    08/03/2003 10:23:34
    1. [KYCLAY] Surname WHITE
    2. Renee Smith
    3. Anyone researching surname WHITE - Clay Co.? Thanks.

    08/03/2003 09:33:31
    1. [KYCLAY] Goosecreek Family Surname WHITE
    2. Renee Smith
    3. Would anyone have any info on slaves owned by the WHITE family who resided on the waters of Goose Creek in Clay County in the mid to late 1800's? USGENWEB/Clay page has midwife birth records showing births of some slave children in certain WHITE households in the late 1800's. Looking for a Harriett(e). Anything specifically on a B.P. WHITE and wife Helen? Thanks.

    08/03/2003 09:17:57
    1. Re: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics
    2. Renee Smith
    3. It's on the way :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: NANCY/Glenda Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 12:00 PM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics I don't know the Alice Mullins but would be interested in seeing the pictures anyway. crowwmn@mvdsl.com thank you, Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renee Smith" <hrsmith40@msn.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics > Thanks Betty. Pardon my ignorance all. I'm new to this list. If anyone is interested in any of the photos I mentioned I'll be glad to forward to your prsnl email if you request. > Again Betty, thank you. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Betty Eddy > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 10:10 AM > To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics > > Renee, > > This site does not accept and post attachments. None of your posts > regarding the picture of Alice Mullins have carried the picture. > > Betty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Renee Smith > To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:08 AM > Subject: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics > > > Sorry list. If anyone wants to respond to the pics I posted, please > respond to my prsnl email WITHOUT the photo attachment. I have an old, slow > computer and cannot open the responses on the list with the photo > attachment. Thank you. > >

    08/03/2003 08:36:55
    1. Re: [KYCLAY] Alic Mullins
    2. Renee Smith
    3. Sending it now. You can barely see the image. It is on some type of thick board which I could not scan and doctor up nearly as well as I could on the older metal ones I have (either Daguerreatype, Ambrotype, or Tintype). Sendnig to your email now. ----- Original Message ----- From: gladys Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 2:12 PM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCLAY] Alic Mullins I don't know Alice Mullins either but would like to see the pics. gladysh.mcintosh@verizon.net Gladys McIntosh

    08/03/2003 08:30:55
    1. [KYCLAY] ReneeSmith
    2. NANCY/Glenda
    3. I don't have your email add. in my book so ... Thank you for the pictures. It is interesting to look at the old ones. Do you have any ideas on the other two, who, what, where?? Nancy

    08/03/2003 08:27:13
    1. Re: [KYCLAY] marriage look up
    2. Joyce Collins
    3. RESPONSE: I am pretty involved right now transcribing the outline of the 1910 Knox Co. Fed. Census along with others where it will be posted on Cassy SOMMERs "free" site. You may have already done this but if you have not, please do not forget to make all the connections you can with anyone from the Whitley Co. Message Board and/or Mailing List. The more families you can connect with who connect to your family, the more chance you have of locating the information you need. One day the information will come to you and probably when you are least expecting it. For sure, your Caner, Kanner, (maybe Elkannah) WYNN will show up somewhere on the 1880 Fed. Census. You also might consider joining the Whitley Co. Gen. Society. They probably have a publication where you can make queries about your family which will be sent out to all members. We must always remember that there are still many, many devoted long-time researchers who do not have computer access. Good luck to you. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >yes George Lawson and Francis Wilson (franky) are the mother to the alice (barbery) that i'm looking for..I have little info on this family also..just really started it...for i've been looking for alice's husband ? Wynn for 3 yrs now...I've got Alice's death cert and a census that shows her married to william bennett and raiseing her 3 children from the Wynn marriage...and the 4 children she has with mr bennett..I'm sorry this is all confuseing...I sure wish it wasn't..I love a good mystery..but this one has about wore it's self out..thanks for helping me...and please don't give up...I'm takeing all the help I can get these days..again thanks so much...you are a wonderful person...Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Collins" <joycecollins@compuserve.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] marriage look up > RESPONSE: > I don't know how much you have on your maternal side of the family. That > is, the parents of Barbara A. (Alice) spelled Barbery A. on the 1880 > Whitley Co. Fed. Census. Here they are as of the 1870: > > 1870 Whitley Co. > Dwelling 93 > LAWSON, Geo., 24, b. KY > . .Franky, 21, b. KY<

    08/03/2003 06:33:11
    1. [KYCLAY] Alic Mullins
    2. gladys
    3. I don't know Alice Mullins either but would like to see the pics. gladysh.mcintosh@verizon.net Gladys McIntosh

    08/03/2003 05:28:28
    1. Re: [KYCLAY] marriage look up
    2. Does anyone know if the marriage lists are posted for 1900 forward? I found one part of a bride's list, but have not been able to complete the rest. Cinda

    08/03/2003 04:21:49
    1. Re: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics
    2. Betty Eddy
    3. Renee, This site does not accept and post attachments. None of your posts regarding the picture of Alice Mullins have carried the picture. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: Renee Smith To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:08 AM Subject: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics Sorry list. If anyone wants to respond to the pics I posted, please respond to my prsnl email WITHOUT the photo attachment. I have an old, slow computer and cannot open the responses on the list with the photo attachment. Thank you.

    08/03/2003 04:20:36
    1. Re: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics
    2. Renee Smith
    3. Thanks Betty. Pardon my ignorance all. I'm new to this list. If anyone is interested in any of the photos I mentioned I'll be glad to forward to your prsnl email if you request. Again Betty, thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty Eddy Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 10:10 AM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics Renee, This site does not accept and post attachments. None of your posts regarding the picture of Alice Mullins have carried the picture. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: Renee Smith To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:08 AM Subject: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics Sorry list. If anyone wants to respond to the pics I posted, please respond to my prsnl email WITHOUT the photo attachment. I have an old, slow computer and cannot open the responses on the list with the photo attachment. Thank you.

    08/03/2003 04:16:19
    1. Re: [KYCLAY] Eversole
    2. In a message dated 7/23/2003 9:41:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, crowwmn@mvdsl.com writes: > Subj: [KYCLAY] Eversole > Date: 7/23/2003 9:41:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:crowwmn@mvdsl.com">crowwmn@mvdsl.com</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com">KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com">KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > With all the excitement I lost the address of the person asking about > Eversoles.. I did find a picture that I had tucked a way however it is not Peter > it is Nathan. If you still want it email me at home crowwmn@mvdsl.com Nancy > > Yes Mam, I would like to have any Info that you would care to share with me about the Eversole`s, and thank you very much. James In Georgia.

    08/03/2003 04:04:47
    1. Re: [KYCLAY] ADAM WAS BLACK
    2. Renee Smith
    3. Hi Jess, Would love to discuss more w/you about Dayton post WWII. Lots of KY folk flocked to Dayton to work at "The Field". Renee ----- Original Message ----- From: jess wilson Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:55 AM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCLAY] ADAM WAS BLACK ADAM WAS BLACK By Jess Wilson During World War Two we lived and I worked in Dayton. Ohio. After a night shift I was coming home from work on the Third Street streetcar when a middle aged black man, probably a minister, sat down beside me. He said, "In the beginning everyone was black like me." He said it in a tone that indicated he expected an argument. My answer was more with a shrug of my shoulder than a mild, "So what?", which may have been because it was after my bed time or it may have been the indoctrination I had received at the Berea Foundation School. The motto of the school was, "God hath made of one blood, all nations of men." Anthropological findings of recent years and the tenet of "survival of the fittest" prove that the man was right. Mankind evolved in sunny Africa. Those who had more pigment in their skin had a greater survival rate. As humans migrated north, those who had less pigment in their skin had a greater survival rate. The rate may have been very slight, maybe only one or a very few individuals per century, but there are a great many centuries in a million years and we are speaking of multi-millions of years. The importance of the amount of pigment is due to the fact that a very important vitamin is produced in the body by the action of sunlight on the body. There are other factors as well The amount of this vitamin D is important to good health. Too much or too little is of great importance. Thus, the more or less pigment in a persons skin is important. Therefor, African races are black, Mediterranean races are brown and Scandianian races are white. If our Faith is such that we can read the Bible with understanding and at the same time accept the latest findings of our best thinkers we can agree with the African-American preacher that Adam and Eve were black like him.

    08/03/2003 04:02:54
    1. Re: [KYCLAY] Re: Clay County Homecoming
    2. Linda are you talking about Clay County Days, (Clay Homecoming) if so its the weekend of Labor Day, starting August 29 Nancy S

    08/03/2003 03:48:18
    1. Re: [KYCLAY] marriage look up
    2. Denise
    3. yes George Lawson and Francis Wilson (franky) are the mother to the alice (barbery) that i'm looking for..I have little info on this family also..just really started it...for i've been looking for alice's husband ? Wynn for 3 yrs now...I've got Alice's death cert and a census that shows her married to william bennett and raiseing her 3 children from the Wynn marriage...and the 4 children she has with mr bennett..I'm sorry this is all confuseing...I sure wish it wasn't..I love a good mystery..but this one has about wore it's self out..thanks for helping me...and please don't give up...I'm takeing all the help I can get these days..again thanks so much...you are a wonderful person...Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Collins" <joycecollins@compuserve.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] marriage look up > RESPONSE: > I don't know how much you have on your maternal side of the family. That > is, the parents of Barbara A. (Alice) spelled Barbery A. on the 1880 > Whitley Co. Fed. Census. Here they are as of the 1870: > > 1870 Whitley Co. > Dwelling 93 > LAWSON, Geo., 24, b. KY > . .Franky, 21, b. KY > > Dwelling 92 > LAWSON, Henry, 46, b. KY (assume these are the parents of George) > . .Lucinda, 44, b. KY > . . Wm., 15, Ky > .Elizabeth, 13, KY > . .Louisa, 10, KY > . .Green, 9, KY > . .Sarah, 7, KY > . .Rachael, 5, KY > . .Henry, 2, KY > > Dwelling 94 > LAWSON, Hugh, 22, b. KY > . .Samantha, 22, KY > . .Wm., 1, KY > > I make an assumption these are the parents of Barbara A. or Alice who was a > WILSON. > > Dwelling 95 > WILSON, Vincent, 56, b. KY > . .Barbary, 57, KY (so she (Alice) carried her mother's name) > . .Sarah, 13, KY > > I got her maiden name from the Vital Stats for Whitley Co. as follows: > > July 14, 1875 in Whitley Co. > LAWSON, Nancy , female, born to : George LAWSON and Franky WILSON, both > parties shown as born in Whitley Co., KY > > Joyce Taylor Collins > La Palma, CA > > Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > >Betty > ON the documents for grandpa john...it lists his place of birth as swan > lake...i'm told it's up in barbraville in whitley co...I've been > there...drove threw it..but never stopped...so I have no clue..just know > what i've been told all these yrs...it lists granny's place of birth also > as > swan lake...and his sister mary jane...hope this helps...Denise > ----- Original Message ----- < > > >

    08/03/2003 03:22:54
    1. [KYCLAY] Pics posted
    2. Renee Smith
    3. Sorry - the email is hrsmith40@msn.com Please do NOT attach the photo you are writing about. Also, it may take me a while to get back to you, but I will. Thanx.

    08/03/2003 03:09:40
    1. [KYCLAY] Posts with pics
    2. Renee Smith
    3. Sorry list. If anyone wants to respond to the pics I posted, please respond to my prsnl email WITHOUT the photo attachment. I have an old, slow computer and cannot open the responses on the list with the photo attachment. Thank you.

    08/03/2003 03:08:13
    1. Re: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics
    2. NANCY/Glenda
    3. I don't know the Alice Mullins but would be interested in seeing the pictures anyway. crowwmn@mvdsl.com thank you, Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renee Smith" <hrsmith40@msn.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics > Thanks Betty. Pardon my ignorance all. I'm new to this list. If anyone is interested in any of the photos I mentioned I'll be glad to forward to your prsnl email if you request. > Again Betty, thank you. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Betty Eddy > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 10:10 AM > To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics > > Renee, > > This site does not accept and post attachments. None of your posts > regarding the picture of Alice Mullins have carried the picture. > > Betty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Renee Smith > To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:08 AM > Subject: [KYCLAY] Posts with pics > > > Sorry list. If anyone wants to respond to the pics I posted, please > respond to my prsnl email WITHOUT the photo attachment. I have an old, slow > computer and cannot open the responses on the list with the photo > attachment. Thank you. > >

    08/03/2003 02:58:51
    1. Re: [KYCLAY] marriage look up Conor Wynn
    2. Denise
    3. Calvin thanks I"m going to dig into this one also...I have nothing to lose...inless of course he was from a hillbilly mafia in that case i'm sure there is no paper trail...LOL..thanks again...Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Calvin Smith" <smithcalvin@insightbb.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:56 PM Subject: RE: [KYCLAY] marriage look up Conor Wynn > Could this be him??? > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > L. Conor WYNN Household > Male > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Other Information: > Birth Year <1873> > Birthplace KY > Age 7 > Occupation At Home > Marital Status S <Single> > Race W <White> > Head of Household Jisirah WYNN > Relation Son > Father's Birthplace VA > Mother's Birthplace KY > > ------------------------------------------- > > Source Information: > Census Place District 47, Harlan, Kentucky > Family History Library Film 1254418 > NA Film Number T9-0418 > Page Number 517C > > Calvin Smith > Louisville, Ky. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:poohthatswho66@comcast.net] > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:53 PM > To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] marriage look up > > Betty > ON the documents for grandpa john...it lists his place of birth as swan > lake...i'm told it's up in barbraville in whitley co...I've been > there...drove threw it..but never stopped...so I have no clue..just know > what i've been told all these yrs...it lists granny's place of birth > also as > swan lake...and his sister mary jane...hope this helps...Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty Eddy" <beddy@jellico.com> > To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:43 PM > Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] marriage look up > > > > Denise, I find no WYNN males listed in the Clay Co. Index of > Marriages > for > > 1807 - 1923. There is no Alice Lawson listed in the bride index > either. > > Could you possibly have meant Swan Pond, Ky. as the birth place for > your > > grandfather? There is a Swan Pond in Knox Co., Ky. > > > > Betty > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Denise > > To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:48 PM > > Subject: [KYCLAY] marriage look up > > > > > > hello everyone...I need a marriage look up for the yr 1900 it was > either > > in Knox...Whitley...Clay...or Harlan Co's the names are ? Wynn and > Alice > > Lawson or a Lawson and a Wynn...the reason i'm being so cheap on the > names > > is because my great grandpa wynn sure had alot of names...in the 1900 > census > > for whitley he was list as cain born 2/1878 born in ky...on his son's > death > > and marriage license he is listed as canner and caner Wynn...on his > 2nd > > daughters death cert he's listed as caynor Wynn and on his 3rd and > last > > child's death cert he listed as caynor Wynn..so you see why this man > has > me > > so confused...I know that my grandpa his son John Wynn was born on > 1/2/1903 > > and his last sister was born on 3/26/1907 all in swan lake ky...his > wife > > alice Lawson was remarried to William Bennett and had the 1st of 4 > children > > with mr bennett in 1911..William Bennett and Alice Lawson Wynn Bennett > were > > married in 1910 i've only found the wynn family together once with no > > children yet born to th! > > em in 1900 when they were married...could someone please help > me..i've > > looked for this man for so long...I can't go back any further untill I > know > > his true identity...maybe this name was a middle name or > something...but > > it's pretty obvious it's the name he went by..it says he was born in > clay > co > > in one of the death certs that was filled out for his middle child > mary > jane > > Wynn...SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME FIND THIS MAN! Thanks so much in advace > > ..Denise > > please email me direct at poohthatswho66@comcast.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail is scanned by Norton antivirus no worrys here > > > > > > > > >

    08/03/2003 02:48:12
    1. [KYCLAY] Recent Alice Mullins Post
    2. Renee Smith
    3. Can someone please repost the recent Alice Mullins email minus the photo I can't open it. I have older puter :-( Thanks

    08/03/2003 02:34:40