Researching another family i came across the Burial of Lydia Baker born Apr. 27,1811 Clay Co Ky Md. Samuel Lewis 1829 ? Clay co Ky died May 15 , 1884 in Caldwell CO . Misssouri hope this helps someone phyllis

Calvin, Did these WHITES live in the proximity of Goose Creek? Do you know? Renee ----- Original Message ----- From: jess wilson Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:09 AM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Look-ups offered (William Potter) Renee, When they rererred to "the white`s" they may have been talking about the WHITES, one of the first and most prominent families in Clay County. Jess Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renee Smith" <hrsmith40@msn.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Look-ups offered (William Potter) > Calvin, > Oh, you just don't know how much this means. To have this info offered, in that you say they lived "near the whites". Can you please help me understand how this was gleaned. Can a location be pinpointed at all? By chance any way of determining from whince Harriet came before marrying William? Someone else reported my grandmother having appeared on the census as "Mulatto" - which is new news to me. I can get no further than back than Harriett and William. I suppose I'll never find out what Harriett's surname was prior to her becoming a Potter. > Thank you ever so much. > Renee > Columbus Ohio > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Calvin Smith > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 1:25 PM > To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [KYCLAY] Look-ups offered (William Potter) > > 1900 census indicates the following: > Potter William head bm apr 1831 69 m 31 > Harriet wife bf may 1848 52 m 31 12 kids 6 living > Steven son bm sep 1870 29 s > Newton son bm may 1879 21 s > Louise dau bf apr 1882 18 s > Lilly gdau bf aug 1889 10 s > They were listed as day laborers living near the Whites > > Calvin Smith > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Renee Smith [mailto:hrsmith40@msn.com] > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 4:59 PM > To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Look-ups offered > > Charlotte, > Thank you kindly for helping. Shall await word from you (fingers > crossed). > Renee > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: CM7153@aol.com > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 4:57 PM > To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Look-ups offered > > In a message dated 7/25/03 5:03:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > hrsmith40@msn.com writes: > > > Charlotte, > > Thank you for the offer. Trying to locate any census records wherein > > > appeared one Harriett POTTER. > > Harriett would be listed under the household of either a William > POTTER or > > George POTTER. She had a daughter named Louise (or Louisa). Harriett > is my > > great, grandma. She was black, and I was told she was likely a slave > at some > > point in time. I am having a grave time of this. Do you know if > anyone has > > any records pertaining to slaves in Manchester? > > Renee > > Renee, > > I will look and get back with you. I don't know anything about slave > records. > > Thanks, > Charlotte Miller > <A > HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Our_Sharing_Place/">http://groups.ya > hoo.com/group/Our_Sharing_Place/</A>

Joyce, Thanks! This answers a question that has long perplexed me pertaining to a second Louise I had seen on Clay Co. Census records. Renee ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Collins Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 7:44 PM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] POTTER RESPONSE: Adding to the information already provided to you from the 1930 Fed. Census: 1930 Harlan Co. Harlan Town Dwelling 37-39 POTTER, Claud, 25, Negro, mar. at 22, b. KY; parents b. KY . .May, wife, Negro, age 24, mar. at 21, b. VA; father b. TN; mother b. KY . .Louise, dau, Negro, age 2, b. "OHIO" JACKSON, Moses, L., Negro, 39, widow, b. KY; parents b. KY - - lodger or boarder Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Charlotte, Thank you for the offer. Trying to locate any census records wherein appeared one Harriett POTTER. Harriett would be listed under the household of either a William POTTER or George POTTER. She had a daughter named Louise (or Louisa). Harriett is my great, grandma. She was black, and I was told she was likely a slave at some point in time. I am having a grave time of this. Do you know if anyone has any records pertaining to slaves in Manchester? Renee ----- Original Mess<

Charlotte, I'm resigned to the fact that the Lillie listed is likely the woman who raised me - Lillian. What a revelation this has been. She appears on one Census as Lillian (1920) but on the others as Lillie. This has really thrown me off, as I have been told that Lillian had a SISTER named Lillie. Renee ----- Original Message ----- From: CM7153@aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:53 AM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Harriet Potter, 1920 Clay County Census In a message dated 7/26/03 11:07:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hrsmith40@msn.com writes: > anywhere. She was born in 1914 in Clay Co. and is the daughter of Louisa > and granddaughter of Harriett. THANKS AGAIN. > God Bless. > Renee > Columbus, Ohio Renee, Could she be the Lillie that is listed? Thanks, Charlotte

RESPONSE: I absolutely agree with what you say. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > >>>If a Black or Mulatto person was listed prior to the Civil War, that means they had been freed or were free Blacks in their status.>>>> Yes you are right, OR it could mean they were just a little to dark and the census taker placed them in those categories. They could have been Native American, or Melungeon descendants, or any mix that was not quite white enough. The url below will show you some documented information about the Melungeon people. Someone mentioned Mullins being a Melungeon name, the Mullins in Hawkins County Tennessee were Irish, but married Melungeon (Mahala Collins), so this Mullins line would have been considered Melungeon. Penny Ferguson http://www.geocities.com/ourmelungeons/front.html <

Will do! ----- Original Message ----- From: Katie Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:26 AM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Look-ups offered (William Potter) Must have been "Smiths" LOL! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Guilda11133@aol.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Look-ups offered (William Potter) > Thank you, Renee, > I would love to have your resources. > > My cousin said they weren't registered because they hid & weren't moved at > the time. > > Thanks again, > Guilda > > >

>>>If a Black or Mulatto person was listed prior to the Civil War, that means they had been freed or were free Blacks in their status.>>>> Yes you are right, OR it could mean they were just a little to dark and the census taker placed them in those categories. They could have been Native American, or Melungeon descendants, or any mix that was not quite white enough. The url below will show you some documented information about the Melungeon people. Someone mentioned Mullins being a Melungeon name, the Mullins in Hawkins County Tennessee were Irish, but married Melungeon (Mahala Collins), so this Mullins line would have been considered Melungeon. Penny Ferguson http://www.geocities.com/ourmelungeons/front.html

Thank you for the information. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Hines Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:36 PM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Potter, free blacks & slaves There were some very interesting BATES families, one with a Harriet, on the one page of the 1850 that is posted on the Clay Co. site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyclay/Census/1850/index.htm Schedule 1 - Free Inhabitants in Kentucky District, in the county of Clay, State of Kentucky, enumerated on the 29th day of August, 1850. 543 Melani BATES 50 M B -- -- Ky Nancy 46 F M Mary 19 F M Harriet 17 F M Almin 15 F M KY Sarah 14 F M Elijah 7 M M Elizabeth 22 F M Fanny 4 F M Sarah 1 F M Kathy Hines wrote: > > Well? She's 43 and married with at least 9 kids by the time the 1880 > was taken. Judging by the age of the oldest child, I presume she > married at about the age of 23 in about 1860. We could try looking for > a 13 year old black or mulatto Harriet in Clay Co. in the 1850 census. > It isn't likely that there would be too many to choose from, is there? > > It wouldn't be conclusive proof, but it would have a very high > probability ratio. Do you already have her on the 1860 as being married > and having children? > > 1880 Census Place Manchester, Clay, Kentucky - Page Number 469A > Family History Library Film 1254410 NA Film Number T9-0410 > William POTTER Self M Male B 48 KY Shoemaker KY KY > Harriet POTTER Wife M Female B 43 KY Keeping House KY > KY > Berry POTTER Son S Male B 19 KY At Home KY KY > Almira POTTER Dau S Female B 15 KY At Home KY KY > William POTTER Son S Male B 13 KY At Home KY KY > Sarah POTTER Dau S Female B 12 KY At Home KY KY > Carolina POTTER Dau S Female B 11 KY At Home KY KY > Olivia POTTER Dau S Female B 7 KY KY KY > Stephen POTTER Son S Male B 5 KY KY KY > Newton POTTER Son S Male B 3 KY KY KY > Louisa POTTER Dau S Female B 1M KY KY KY > > Kathy

No idea sadly. The only two that can be identified is because the names were written on the back - Alice Mullins and Little Edwin Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: NANCY/Glenda Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:29 PM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCLAY] ReneeSmith I don't have your email add. in my book so ... Thank you for the pictures. It is interesting to look at the old ones. Do you have any ideas on the other two, who, what, where?? Nancy

Joyce, Thanks for the info. Will piece this together before it's over. I am finding there are a few Harriette in Clay Co. records. Renee ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Collins Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:11 PM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCLAY] Goosecreek Family Surname WHITE RESPONSE: The way the census was completed in those times as that slaves were considered property and were not listed by name. They were grouped by the census enumerated by male, female, and age groupings. If a Black or Mulatto person was listed prior to the Civil War, that means they had been freed or were free Blacks in their status. On the 1880 Clay Co., here is B. P. WHITE (part of the saltmaking wealthy families) Dwelling 5-6 WHITE, Beverly P., 38, b. KY; father b. AR, mother b. KY . .Helen G., 32, wife, b. KY; parents b. KY . .James, 11, son, KY . .Eva, 9, dau, KY . . Lucy, 7, dau, Ky NEAL, Polly, Mulatto female, 14, servant, b. TN; father b. TN; mother b. KY POTTER, Ellen, Black female, 38, servant, b. KY; father b. KY; mother b. VA NOTE: The wife is Helen GARRARD. I am now looking at the 1870 Clay Co. There are a large number of Black and Mulatto WHITE families listed in this one particular section of the census. Here is one family I will give you because the name POTTER is there: Dwelling 29 LITTON, Moses, 30 MB (Moses LYTTON mar. Martha A. POTTER on 3-27-1869 in Clay Co.) . .Ann, 20, FB . .Susan, 6 mo's FB, (born in Jan.) . .Polly A., 16, FB domestic servant Next dwelling is "a" Harriet as follows: Dwelling 28 CLARK, Mill, 45, MB - coal miner . . Harriet, 22, FB * * * . .James, 5, MB . .George B., 3MB . .Easter, 1, FB Dwelling 440 - 1870 WHITE, Beverly P., 28 - - county judge . . Hellen G., 22 . .James, 1 HERD, Polly, 25, FB - hired servant . .Sally, 18, FB - hired servant Dwelling 442 POTTER, Robert G., 30 - merchant (prop. valued at $7,000 - $20,000 - wealthy man for the time . . Nanny C., 29 (Nancy C. GILBERT mar. 10-17-1865 in Clay Co.) GILBERT, Margarett, 30, FB - hired servant . . Alfred, 8 MB GIBSON, Lidda, 10, FW - at home GILBERT, Daffney, 12, FB - hired servant WHITE, June, 18, MB - work on farm Lots of famiies all around with hired BM and BF servants, etc. Joyce C.. Dwelling 446 POTTER, James G., 25 (mar. Ann M. PRICE on 6-8-1865 in Clay Co.) . .Ann M. . .Elizabeth, 2 . . Harriett, 14, Female Black - - hired servant * * * (would this be her?) ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Joyce C. Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Would anyone have any info on slaves owned by the WHITE family who resided on the waters of Goose Creek in Clay County in the mid to late 1800's? USGENWEB/Clay page has midwife birth records showing births of some slave children in certain WHITE households in the late 1800's. Looking for a Harriett(e). Anything specifically on a B.P. WHITE and wife Helen? Thanks. <

Thanks Karolyn. Will ck. it out. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karolyn Hoover Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:52 PM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCLAY] Melungeon Mullins? I can't remember who asked about a Mullins-Melungeon connection, but here is an interesting site that contains several Mullins links in that context: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mtnties/mlgnlinks.html Konnie

Well well. Just goes to show you - one should never be too hasty to judge. You can't tell a book by how it's cover looks, nor how it sounds. Did you ever hear anything about those aliens they keep out at the field? ----- Original Message ----- From: jess wilson Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:09 PM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] ADAM WAS BLACK Renne, Of one thing I brag is that when I applied for employment at Patterson Field ,I with others were given an examination. When I reported to start work a few days later, I was told that I had made the highest score of anyone who had applied before that time. One reason I like to brag about this is that many people regarded me as nothing more than a poor Kentucky Hillbilly just because my language sounded different. I was as good an Aircraft Sheetmetal Mechanic as ever worked at that field. That is a statement, not a brag. JESS WILSON ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renee Smith" <hrsmith40@msn.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] ADAM WAS BLACK > Hi Jess, > Would love to discuss more w/you about Dayton post WWII. Lots of KY folk flocked to Dayton to work at "The Field". > Renee > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jess wilson > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:55 AM > To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KYCLAY] ADAM WAS BLACK > > ADAM WAS BLACK > > By Jess Wilson > > During World War Two we lived and I worked in Dayton. Ohio. After a night shift I was coming home from work on the Third Street streetcar when a middle aged black man, probably a minister, sat down beside me. He said, "In the beginning everyone was black like me." He said it in a tone that indicated he expected an argument. > > My answer was more with a shrug of my shoulder than a mild, "So what?", which may have been because it was after my bed time or it may have been the indoctrination I had received at the Berea Foundation School. The motto of the school was, "God hath made of one blood, all nations of men." > > Anthropological findings of recent years and the tenet of "survival of the fittest" prove that the man was right. Mankind evolved in sunny Africa. Those who had more pigment in their skin had a greater survival rate. As humans migrated north, those who had less pigment in their skin had a greater survival rate. The rate may have been very slight, maybe only one or a very few individuals per century, but there are a great many centuries in a million years and we are speaking of multi-millions of years. > > The importance of the amount of pigment is due to the fact that a very important vitamin is produced in the body by the action of sunlight on the body. There are other factors as well The amount of this vitamin D is important to good health. Too much or too little is of great importance. Thus, the more or less pigment in a persons skin is important. Therefor, African races are black, Mediterranean races are brown and Scandianian races are white. > > If our Faith is such that we can read the Bible with understanding and at the same time accept the latest findings of our best thinkers we can agree with the African-American preacher that Adam and Eve were black like him.

Thanx Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: Beckstrom, Barbara A Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 4:44 PM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [KYCLAY] RESPONSE TO JESS's - ON THINKING OF ANCESTORS Very well said Renee. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: RENEE SMITH [mailto:hrsmith40@msn.com] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:09 PM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCLAY] RESPONSE TO JESS's - ON THINKING OF ANCESTORS Our ancestors could not have possibly envisioned our world as it is today - yet I am sure many hoped and prayed for such. That being a world now more inclusive, more diverse, a world wherein all persuasion of folk are beginning to try to embrace one another in a way that our forefathers felt impossible. All the secrets, lies, mistruths that were passed along from generation to generation. The purposeful misinforming of their descendents. Truths they felt needed to be kept well-guarded are tid bits that we can only hope will help to bridge divides and provide a richer future for generations to come. Our ancestors could not have envisioned our having at our disposal the world wide web and mailing lists -a means of folk from all corners sharing information. >From: "jess wilson" <jswlsn@prtcnet.org> >Reply-To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KYCLAY] ON THINKING OF ANCESTORS >Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:30:12 -0400 > >ON THINKING OF ANCESTORS > >By Jess Wilson > >When we consider that we have two parents, four grandparents, eight >great >grand parents, ad infinitum, we realize that if we continue this thinking, >we soon arrive at a number of ancestors that is greater than the population >of the people on this earth at that time. Then we realize that if within >the multitude there was one individual that was someone else than who they >were, we would also be someone other than who we are. > >It is sobering to think that we are who we are as a result of all the >happenings to the human race since the beginning. Every war, famine, >pestilence, plague, devastation or flea bite that ever happened may have >had some bearing on our being born who we are rather than being someone >else. > >Now think of all the pain and suffering endured by our multitude of >forebearers, the wounds that were inflicted in wars, the stubbed toes >suffered by barefooted children, the labors of child birth and the tortures >of being burned alive. > >Now, consider this: Imagine that in our crowd of ancestors during the >17th >century there was one individual that was a captive brought from Africa in >the bowels of a stinking slave ship. There chained to lie in their own >filth with only enough room to breathe. That individual suffered more hell >that all the others put together. Three days nailed to a cross would have >been a picnic compared to this and all of it might have happened just so >you would be born you and I was born me. > > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/2003

Renne, Of one thing I brag is that when I applied for employment at Patterson Field ,I with others were given an examination. When I reported to start work a few days later, I was told that I had made the highest score of anyone who had applied before that time. One reason I like to brag about this is that many people regarded me as nothing more than a poor Kentucky Hillbilly just because my language sounded different. I was as good an Aircraft Sheetmetal Mechanic as ever worked at that field. That is a statement, not a brag. JESS WILSON ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renee Smith" <hrsmith40@msn.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] ADAM WAS BLACK > Hi Jess, > Would love to discuss more w/you about Dayton post WWII. Lots of KY folk flocked to Dayton to work at "The Field". > Renee > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jess wilson > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:55 AM > To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KYCLAY] ADAM WAS BLACK > > ADAM WAS BLACK > > By Jess Wilson > > During World War Two we lived and I worked in Dayton. Ohio. After a night shift I was coming home from work on the Third Street streetcar when a middle aged black man, probably a minister, sat down beside me. He said, "In the beginning everyone was black like me." He said it in a tone that indicated he expected an argument. > > My answer was more with a shrug of my shoulder than a mild, "So what?", which may have been because it was after my bed time or it may have been the indoctrination I had received at the Berea Foundation School. The motto of the school was, "God hath made of one blood, all nations of men." > > Anthropological findings of recent years and the tenet of "survival of the fittest" prove that the man was right. Mankind evolved in sunny Africa. Those who had more pigment in their skin had a greater survival rate. As humans migrated north, those who had less pigment in their skin had a greater survival rate. The rate may have been very slight, maybe only one or a very few individuals per century, but there are a great many centuries in a million years and we are speaking of multi-millions of years. > > The importance of the amount of pigment is due to the fact that a very important vitamin is produced in the body by the action of sunlight on the body. There are other factors as well The amount of this vitamin D is important to good health. Too much or too little is of great importance. Thus, the more or less pigment in a persons skin is important. Therefor, African races are black, Mediterranean races are brown and Scandianian races are white. > > If our Faith is such that we can read the Bible with understanding and at the same time accept the latest findings of our best thinkers we can agree with the African-American preacher that Adam and Eve were black like him.

Someone wrote me regarding Louisianna Chadwell and Felix Pennington. I lost the email. Please contact me again. Anna

The MELUNGEON-L list at Rootsweb is a good one for information on the Mullins Melungeon connection. They lived in Wise Co VA at the Pound, and I descend from these Mullinses. Their origin cannot be proven, of course. Regards, Connie Hoskins Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karolyn Hoover" <erinfitz@zialink.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: [KYCLAY] Melungeon Mullins? > I can't remember who asked about a Mullins-Melungeon connection, but here > is > an interesting site that contains several Mullins links in that context: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mtnties/mlgnlinks.html > > Konnie > > >

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RESPONSE: The way the census was completed in those times as that slaves were considered property and were not listed by name. They were grouped by the census enumerated by male, female, and age groupings. If a Black or Mulatto person was listed prior to the Civil War, that means they had been freed or were free Blacks in their status. On the 1880 Clay Co., here is B. P. WHITE (part of the saltmaking wealthy families) Dwelling 5-6 WHITE, Beverly P., 38, b. KY; father b. AR, mother b. KY . .Helen G., 32, wife, b. KY; parents b. KY . .James, 11, son, KY . .Eva, 9, dau, KY . . Lucy, 7, dau, Ky NEAL, Polly, Mulatto female, 14, servant, b. TN; father b. TN; mother b. KY POTTER, Ellen, Black female, 38, servant, b. KY; father b. KY; mother b. VA NOTE: The wife is Helen GARRARD. I am now looking at the 1870 Clay Co. There are a large number of Black and Mulatto WHITE families listed in this one particular section of the census. Here is one family I will give you because the name POTTER is there: Dwelling 29 LITTON, Moses, 30 MB (Moses LYTTON mar. Martha A. POTTER on 3-27-1869 in Clay Co.) . .Ann, 20, FB . .Susan, 6 mo's FB, (born in Jan.) . .Polly A., 16, FB domestic servant Next dwelling is "a" Harriet as follows: Dwelling 28 CLARK, Mill, 45, MB - coal miner . . Harriet, 22, FB * * * . .James, 5, MB . .George B., 3MB . .Easter, 1, FB Dwelling 440 - 1870 WHITE, Beverly P., 28 - - county judge . . Hellen G., 22 . .James, 1 HERD, Polly, 25, FB - hired servant . .Sally, 18, FB - hired servant Dwelling 442 POTTER, Robert G., 30 - merchant (prop. valued at $7,000 - $20,000 - wealthy man for the time . . Nanny C., 29 (Nancy C. GILBERT mar. 10-17-1865 in Clay Co.) GILBERT, Margarett, 30, FB - hired servant . . Alfred, 8 MB GIBSON, Lidda, 10, FW - at home GILBERT, Daffney, 12, FB - hired servant WHITE, June, 18, MB - work on farm Lots of famiies all around with hired BM and BF servants, etc. Joyce C.. Dwelling 446 POTTER, James G., 25 (mar. Ann M. PRICE on 6-8-1865 in Clay Co.) . .Ann M. . .Elizabeth, 2 . . Harriett, 14, Female Black - - hired servant * * * (would this be her?) ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Joyce C. Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Would anyone have any info on slaves owned by the WHITE family who resided on the waters of Goose Creek in Clay County in the mid to late 1800's? USGENWEB/Clay page has midwife birth records showing births of some slave children in certain WHITE households in the late 1800's. Looking for a Harriett(e). Anything specifically on a B.P. WHITE and wife Helen? Thanks. <

I can't remember who asked about a Mullins-Melungeon connection, but here is an interesting site that contains several Mullins links in that context: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mtnties/mlgnlinks.html Konnie

The 1880 census may be researched for free from www.familysearch.org follow the links on the site. You need to register first, but it is for free. It is the Latter Day Saints website.