Here my first cousin Obits Hazel A. Holcomb, 75 March 24, 1928 - AUG. 9, 2003 SPENCER - Hazel A. Holcomb, 75, of Spencer, died Saturday at her residence. Born Mar. 24, 1928, in Manchester, Ky., she was the daughter of William and Victoria (Napier) Ball. She was a homemaker, a member of Lifeway Baptist Church, and a 50-year member of Order of the Eastern Star in Kentucky. Survivors include one daughter, Debbie Holcomb of Spencer; three brothers, Virgil Ball of Brookville and Henry L. Ball and Estill Ball, both of West Harrison; one sister, Mary Sandlin of Spencer; two grandchildren, Holly Watson and Matt Cazzell; and three great-grandchildren, Brayton Wyatt, Caitlyn Watson and Megan Vernon. She was preceded in death by her parents; her husband, William C. Holcomb, in January 1994; two brothers, Oakley Ball and Leonard Ball; and one sister, Ethel Ball. Services will be 2 p.m. Tuesday at Spencer Baptist Church, with Pastor Kevin Albert and the Rev. Shannon Benham officiating. Burial will be at Chambersville Cemetery. Friends may call 4-8 p.m. Monday at West & Parrish & Pedigo Funeral Home, and 1-2 p.m. Tuesday at the church. Memorial contributions may be made to Bloomington Hospice in care of the funeral home. Herald Times Online.com August 10, 2003

Note, the dates are day of death. July 1, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Nella Cottongim, 72, Railroad Avenue, died Tuesday. Services 2 p.m. today, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 9 a.m. today. July 2, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Laura Belle Hubbard, 42, Goose Rock, died Wednesday. Services 2 p.m. today, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 9 a.m. today. July 3, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Buddy Fred Britton, 63, Annville, formerly of Clay County, retired truck driver, husband of Lovenia Britton, died Thursday. Services 2 p.m. Monday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 6 p.m. Sunday. July 3, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Ralph Brock, 63, Garrard, retired coal miner, husband of Margie Brock, died Thursday. Services 1 p.m. Sunday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 5 p.m. today. July 5, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Ar-mest Jackson, 80, Jack's Branch, retired farmer, husband of Rose Jackson, died Saturday. Services 2 p.m. Thursday, Horse Creek Baptist Church, Hima. Visitation 6 p.m. today, Britton Funeral Home. July 8, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Nannie Thompson, 88, who had been a sales clerk, widow of Phillip Thompson, died Tuesday. Services 10 a.m. Friday, Rominger Funeral Home. Visitation 6 p.m. today. July 8, 2003 MANCHESTER -- John Campbell, 72, Pigeonroost, retired Clay County school system employee, husband of Cindy Campbell, died Tuesday. Services 2 p.m. Saturday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 6 p.m. today. July 13, 2003 MANCHESTER -- James C. "Low" Hubbard, 62, Lockards Creek, brother of Helen Morsch, Lockards Creek, died Sunday. Services 10 a.m. Thursday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 6 p.m. today and Wednesday. July 14, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Carrie Lewis, 77, Island Creek, widow of Milton Lewis, died yesterday. Services noon Wednesday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 6 p.m. today. July 14, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Estill Bishop, 80, died Monday. Services 2 p.m. Thursday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation noon Thursday. July 18, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Willie Scalf, 75, retired miner, husband of Billie Scalf, died Friday. Services 1 p.m. Monday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 6 p.m. today. July 19, 2003 MANCHESTER-- Oscar Jackson, 36, Blue Hole, son of Sallie Mae Jackson, died yesterday. Services 10 a.m. Monday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 6 p.m. today. July 19, 2003 MANCHESTER -- James "Doc" Holiday, 69, Lyttleton, retired heavy equipment operator, widower of Geneva Holiday, died Saturday. Services 11 a.m. Tuesday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation after 6 p.m. today. July 19, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Harold Dean Hoskins, 23, Richmond, motel clerk, son of Charles Gary and Bertha Hoskins, died Saturday. Services 2 p.m. Tuesday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 6 p.m. today. July 19, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Minnie Reynolds, 83, Lyttleton, died Saturday. Services 11 a.m. today, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 9 a.m. today. July 22, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Retha Lawson, 76, Burning Springs, homemaker, wife of Dock Lawson, died yesterday. Services 10 a.m. Friday, Big Creek Holiness Church. Visitation 6 p.m. today, church. Arrangements, Rominger Funeral Home. July 24, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Charlie Isom, 76, Bluehole, retired Louisville & Nashville Railroad employee, died Thursday. Services 2 p.m. Sunday, Rominger Funeral Home. Visitation 6 p.m. today. July 24, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Dewey Lunsford, 75, Burning Springs, retired Ohio state and county governments employee, World War II veteran, died Thursday. Services 1 p.m. Sunday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 6-9 p.m. today. July 24, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Judy Hughes, 50, Burning Springs, died Thursday. Services 3 p.m. Monday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 6 p.m. today. July 25, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Jerry A. Sparks, 56, Road Run, retired mechanic, widower of Ovilla Sparks, died Friday. Services 11 a.m. Monday, Britton Funeral Home. Visitation 6 p.m. today. July 27, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Delora Hoskins, 94, Big Creek, widow of Bev Hoskins, died Sunday. Services 1 p.m. Wednesday, Big Creek Holiness Church. Visitation 5 p.m. today, church. Arrangements, Britton Funeral Home. July 30, 2003 MANCHESTER -- Marie Asher, 89, Warbranch, widow of Tom Asher, died Wednesday. Services 11 a.m. Saturday, Rocky Point Holiness Church. Visitation 2 p.m. today, church. Arrangements, Britton Funeral Home.

RESPONSE: Thank you for your kind words. I have responded to you directly. Good luck in your research. Please remember to start making contacts on the Laurel Co. Message Board and Mailing List. That was where your people were. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Hello Joyce, I really am courious as to HOW you can find this stuff! I am totally amazed! and you live in California besides??? You could probably teach me alot. I wish I could be your student! even for one lesson. I don't see a birthdate for Terrance Thomas George. Is there a way of finding that out? I am so sorry for asking you another question, you jut seem to know what you are doing! after ALL the searching I have done. AND all the phone calls to relatives and letters thru regular mail also. Always to get the same, ""don't know anything"" answers. I super duper Thankyou.<

One way Joyce in way off California can find Kentucky information, is that she has bought publications and CD's available from Clay County Genealogical Society and from the Kentucky Archives. >From: "Sandra Thoney" <sthoney@uplogon.com> >Reply-To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Perry George & Alice King >Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:56:46 -0500 > >Hello Joyce, >I really am courious as to HOW you can find this stuff! I am totally >amazed! and you live in California besides??? >You could probably teach me alot. I wish I could be your student! even for >one lesson. > >I don't see a birthdate for Terrance Thomas George. Is there a way of >finding that out? > >I am so sorry for asking you another question, you jut seem to know what >you >are doing! after ALL the searching I have done. AND all the phone calls to >relatives and letters thru regular mail also. Always to get the same, >""don't know anything"" answers. > >I super duper Thankyou. > >Sandy >sthoney@uplogon.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Joyce Collins" <joycecollins@compuserve.com> >To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:48 PM >Subject: [KYCLAY] Perry George & Alice King > > > > RESPONSE: > > These births appear on the KBI CD's: > > They are all in Laurel Co. and they all had a mother who was an Alice >KING. > > GEORGE, Eliza M., b. 11-22-1916 > > GEORGE, Ollie G., b. 5-31-1919 > > GEORGE, Orlie W., b. 7-14-1914 > > GEORGE, Wilson P. b. 12-4-1912 > > GEORGE, Carmon E. b. 8-21-1925 > > GEORGE, Perry b. 3-17-1923 > > > > Joyce Taylor Collins > > La Palma, CA > > > > Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > > >Dwelling 176-176 > > GEORGE, Perry, husband, 55, b. KY; parents b. KY > > . .Alice, 36, b. KY > > . .Tarrence, son, 13, KY > > . .Lillian, dau, 12, KY > > . .Vernice, dau, 9, KY > > . .Willard, son, 5, KY > > . .Morine, dau, 3, KY > > . .Gertrude, dau, 9 mo's, KY > > < > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Hello Joyce, I really am courious as to HOW you can find this stuff! I am totally amazed! and you live in California besides??? You could probably teach me alot. I wish I could be your student! even for one lesson. I don't see a birthdate for Terrance Thomas George. Is there a way of finding that out? I am so sorry for asking you another question, you jut seem to know what you are doing! after ALL the searching I have done. AND all the phone calls to relatives and letters thru regular mail also. Always to get the same, ""don't know anything"" answers. I super duper Thankyou. Sandy sthoney@uplogon.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Collins" <joycecollins@compuserve.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: [KYCLAY] Perry George & Alice King > RESPONSE: > These births appear on the KBI CD's: > They are all in Laurel Co. and they all had a mother who was an Alice KING. > GEORGE, Eliza M., b. 11-22-1916 > GEORGE, Ollie G., b. 5-31-1919 > GEORGE, Orlie W., b. 7-14-1914 > GEORGE, Wilson P. b. 12-4-1912 > GEORGE, Carmon E. b. 8-21-1925 > GEORGE, Perry b. 3-17-1923 > > Joyce Taylor Collins > La Palma, CA > > Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > >Dwelling 176-176 > GEORGE, Perry, husband, 55, b. KY; parents b. KY > . .Alice, 36, b. KY > . .Tarrence, son, 13, KY > . .Lillian, dau, 12, KY > . .Vernice, dau, 9, KY > . .Willard, son, 5, KY > . .Morine, dau, 3, KY > . .Gertrude, dau, 9 mo's, KY > < > > >

RESPONSE: These births appear on the KBI CD's: They are all in Laurel Co. and they all had a mother who was an Alice KING. GEORGE, Eliza M., b. 11-22-1916 GEORGE, Ollie G., b. 5-31-1919 GEORGE, Orlie W., b. 7-14-1914 GEORGE, Wilson P. b. 12-4-1912 GEORGE, Carmon E. b. 8-21-1925 GEORGE, Perry b. 3-17-1923 Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Dwelling 176-176 GEORGE, Perry, husband, 55, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Alice, 36, b. KY . .Tarrence, son, 13, KY . .Lillian, dau, 12, KY . .Vernice, dau, 9, KY . .Willard, son, 5, KY . .Morine, dau, 3, KY . .Gertrude, dau, 9 mo's, KY <

RESPONSE: Hello, I am not related so far as I know. From the 1860 Clay Co. Fed. Census Dwelling 921 GEORGE, Samuel, 23, b. NC . .Amanda, 22, b. Clay Co. . . James, 5 mo's, b. Clay Co. NOTE: Samuel GEORGE mar. Amanda BOWLIN on 10-20-1859 in Clay Co. No census listing for any GEORGE in Clay Co. as of 1870. As of 1880: Dwelling 157-169 GEORGE, Samuel, 45, b. NC; parents b. NC . .Amandy, 43, wife, b. KY . .Wiley, 16, son, KY . .Susan, 15, dau, KY . .Louisa, 10, dau, KY . .Robert, 9, son, KY . .John, 8, son, KY . .Thomas, 5, son, KY . .Judia, 2, dau, KY YEAGER, William, 21, lodger, KY Okay, I have now realized there is a Laurel Co. connection here and that your Perry was NOT in Clay Co. early on. You are in the wrong county!! I will now go to Laurel Co. 1860 Laurel Co. Fed. Census Dwelling 175-174 GEORGE, Ansel, 52, b. NC . .Sarah, 50, b. NC . .William, 21, b. NC * * . .James, 19, b. NC . .Newton, 16, b. NC . .Charles, 14, b. NC . .Hasseltine, 12, female, NC . .Henry, 10, b. NC . .Mera, 7, female, NC . .Mary Jane, 5, b. NC . .Thomas C., 3, b. NC (so you can see these folks arrived in KY after 1857. 1870 Dwelling 139 GEORGE, William, 31, b. NC . .Hannah, 32, KY . .James A., 8, KY . .Perry, 5, KY * * *(assume this is him) . .Nancy G., 3, KY . .Talitha C., 1, kY GEORGE, Newton, 25, b. NC . .Sarah E., 4, KY . .William D., 2, KY . .Mary A., 1, KY Laural Co. Marriage Index: GEORGE, William to REAMS, Hannah on Nov 20, 1860 1880 Laurel Co. Dwelling 237-255 GEORGE, William, 41, b. NC; parents b. NC . .Hannah (REAMS), 41, b. KY; parents b. KY . .James A., 18, son, KY . .Perry F., son, 15, KY * * * . .Nancy, dau, 13, KY . .Telitha, 11, KY, dau . .Dora E., dau, 9, KY . .Madison, 7, son, KY . .Daniel, son, 5, KY . .Analiza, 3, dau, KY Laurel Co. Marrriage INDEX: GEORGE, Perry F. to COTTONGIM, Elizabeth on October 4, 1883 GEORGE, Perry F. to Alice KING on Feb. 18, 1905 1880 Laure l Co. Dwelling 163-177 COTTINGIM, James M., 53, b. KY; father b. SC; mother b. KY . .Emily , 52, b. KY; father b. TN; mother b. VA (mar. 8-18-1848 in Laurel - nee STILLINGS) . . Newton, 25, son, KY . .thomas, son, 17, KY . .Sidney, son, 15, KY . .Elizabeth, dau, 13, Ky * * (probably the first wife) . .George, 11, son, KY . .Lucy, dau, 6, KY . .John, son, 22, b. KY 1900 Laurel Co. Fed. Census Dwelling 259 COTTONGIM, James, husband, b. Apr 1827, 73, mar. 50 yrs, KY; father b. NC; mother b. KY . .Emily, wife, b. Mar 1826, 74, mar. 50 yrs, 10 born; 10 living, b. TN; parents b. TN . . George, son, b. Feb. 1871, 28, single, KY TIPTON, Dora, servant, b. Mar 1881, 19, single, KY Dwelling 260 GEORGE, Perry, husband, b. Jan 1865, 35, mar. 16 yrs, b. KY; parents b. KY* * . .Rachel E. wife, b. Jul 1866, 33, mar. 16 yrs, 4 born; 3 living, b. KY; . .Grover C., son, b. Mar 1885, 15, KY . .Hellen M., dau, b. Jan 1887, 13, KY . . Robert B., son. b. Feb. 1890, 10, KY Now. . . it is 1910 and these ancestors of yours are still not in Clay Co. And. . . there is a BIG problem. There is no Perry or Franklin GEORGE present. What I am seeing; however, is an Alice GEORGE who is a WIDOW!!! You state Perry did not die until 1946? 1910 Laurel Co. Dwelling 224-227 GEORGE, Alice, head of household, 29, "widow", b. KY; parents b. KY . .Tarense, son, 5, KY (which would be YOUR FATHER) . .Lillian, dau, 4, KY . .Anna, (says son) but. . . looks l ike a dau.), 4 mo's, b. KY NOTE: There is a Daniel and a Thomas GEORGE who would have been Perry F.'s siblings so this appears to be the correct family along with the fact that Perry and she did not marry until 1905 - all fits. 1920 Laurel Co. NOTE: At least you now have a "happy ending" on this. Somehow and from somewhere Perry has reappeared and Alice who was listed as a widow in 1910 again has her husband back? (ha ha) Dwelling 176-176 GEORGE, Perry, husband, 55, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Alice, 36, b. KY . .Tarrence, son, 13, KY . .Lillian, dau, 12, KY . .Vernice, dau, 9, KY . .Willard, son, 5, KY . .Morine, dau, 3, KY . .Gertrude, dau, 9 mo's, KY NOTE: Odds are there were a few more children born since she was only 36 in 1920 and seemed to be having children every 2-3 years. I usually do not have the time to do this sort of research for anyone but GEORGE was a name that there were a very few names on and they all were in one place. I do hope you will remember to help others along the way as I have helped you. Almost, you need to make contact with the Laurel Co. Message Board and/or Mailing List in order to meet other cousins and make new contacts. Clay Co. is the wrong place!! Have a good day. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Hello, looking for information on Perry Franklin George b.Jan 22 1865 d. March 11 1946 and Alice Bell King b. 1881. Preferably their children. I would like a LIST of their children and dates if possible. I decend from their first son, Terrance Thomas George (T.T.) b.Jan 28 1905 who had my Father, Ronald David Allen George b. Jan29 1935. Look forward to a response, Sandra (George) sthoney@uplogon.com ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: KYCLAY-L-request@rootsweb.com<

Dianne, who wrote this? Were there footnotes? Remember if they can't give proof, then it may not be right. Some of the stuff that is on the internet is just garbage sometimes. . Thanks, Penny Thought you might be interested in this, especially since it mentions at least one of my (and maybe your) family surnames. It may also help to explain some of the DNA testing done by some of the families who are finding Jewish blood lines. And, from what I understand, there were connections in the area to Sequoyah. Diane R. FIG. 17. SEQUOYAH (GEORGE GUESS), the only American Indian to be included in the hall of fame in Washington, was a silversmith by trade, the son of Wataugan Nathaniel Gist (1733-1796) by his mixed blood wife known as Wurteh ("Girty"). The Gists were a Baltimore family of Jews with important trading concerns. Joseph Gist, a London relative, headed one of the largest shipping insurance companies in the world. They married with the Howards, Looneys, Murrays, Gratzes and Coopers. Photo courtesy University of Georgia Hargrave Rare Book Room. FIG. 18. MOSES LOONEY (1780-1855) is shown in Masonic regalia in this rare photograph taken shortly before his death in Lawrence Co., Alabama. He married Sequoyah's niece, Mary Guess. He descends from Robert Looney of Ballagilley, Isle of Man, a member of the Spanish-Portuguese Jewish mercantile family Luna. Robert Looney brought his entire family to Philadelphia in 1732 and they became one of 70 families in a major settlement of the Virginia uplands under Alexander Ross and Morgan Bryan in 1735. The Looneys were prominent in Tennessee history for building forts, making roads and commanding armies. John Looney, Moses' cousin, died a Cherokee chief. Photo courtesy of Wanda Looney Buss. In conclusion, we have looked at a number of pre-Revolutionary Tennessee families who were both Melungeon and Jewish--more precisely, crypto-Jewish. All intermarried for religious motives, effectively keeping their secrets within the family. In some cases, such as the Gists, Rameys, Alexanders and Coopers, we have contemporary records and evidence naming them as Jews. I have argued that Judaism was the bond that brought them together on the frontier. I have instanced several communities, from the Lumbees to the Texas Choctaws, and we could explore these further in extremely worthwhile fashion now that the "truth" is known. How could Elzina Grimwood have hoped that her niece and nephew, both schoolteachers themselves, would give up! It is simply too alluring a mystery. That it is an injustice to omit our ancestors' names and deeds from the storyline of American history and saga of worldwide Jewry is a point I wish to make in closing. No matter their descendants have largely chosen to be non-Jewish. These were Jews--Jews integrally involved in the American experience--road builders, Indian traders, land agents, ferry operators, inn keepers, gunsmiths, bankers, lawyers, doctors, soldiers and sheriffs. It is a proud heritage of vision and courage, one that should be cherished by their descendants as well as other beneficiaries. Published on the World Wide Web January 1, 2003.

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Hello, looking for information on Perry Franklin George b.Jan 22 1865 d. March 11 1946 and Alice Bell King b. 1881. Preferably their children. I would like a LIST of their children and dates if possible. I decend from their first son, Terrance Thomas George (T.T.) b.Jan 28 1905 who had my Father, Ronald David Allen George b. Jan29 1935. Look forward to a response, Sandra (George) sthoney@uplogon.com

Thought you might be interested in this, especially since it mentions at least one of my (and maybe your) family surnames. It may also help to explain some of the DNA testing done by some of the families who are finding Jewish blood lines. And, from what I understand, there were connections in the area to Sequoyah. Diane R. FIG. 17. SEQUOYAH (GEORGE GUESS), the only American Indian to be included in the hall of fame in Washington, was a silversmith by trade, the son of Wataugan Nathaniel Gist (1733-1796) by his mixed blood wife known as Wurteh ("Girty"). The Gists were a Baltimore family of Jews with important trading concerns. Joseph Gist, a London relative, headed one of the largest shipping insurance companies in the world. They married with the Howards, Looneys, Murrays, Gratzes and Coopers. Photo courtesy University of Georgia Hargrave Rare Book Room. FIG. 18. MOSES LOONEY (1780-1855) is shown in Masonic regalia in this rare photograph taken shortly before his death in Lawrence Co., Alabama. He married Sequoyah's niece, Mary Guess. He descends from Robert Looney of Ballagilley, Isle of Man, a member of the Spanish-Portuguese Jewish mercantile family Luna. Robert Looney brought his entire family to Philadelphia in 1732 and they became one of 70 families in a major settlement of the Virginia uplands under Alexander Ross and Morgan Bryan in 1735. The Looneys were prominent in Tennessee history for building forts, making roads and commanding armies. John Looney, Moses' cousin, died a Cherokee chief. Photo courtesy of Wanda Looney Buss. In conclusion, we have looked at a number of pre-Revolutionary Tennessee families who were both Melungeon and Jewish--more precisely, crypto-Jewish. All intermarried for religious motives, effectively keeping their secrets within the family. In some cases, such as the Gists, Rameys, Alexanders and Coopers, we have contemporary records and evidence naming them as Jews. I have argued that Judaism was the bond that brought them together on the frontier. I have instanced several communities, from the Lumbees to the Texas Choctaws, and we could explore these further in extremely worthwhile fashion now that the "truth" is known. How could Elzina Grimwood have hoped that her niece and nephew, both schoolteachers themselves, would give up! It is simply too alluring a mystery. That it is an injustice to omit our ancestors' names and deeds from the storyline of American history and saga of worldwide Jewry is a point I wish to make in closing. No matter their descendants have largely chosen to be non-Jewish. These were Jews--Jews integrally involved in the American experience--road builders, Indian traders, land agents, ferry operators, inn keepers, gunsmiths, bankers, lawyers, doctors, soldiers and sheriffs. It is a proud heritage of vision and courage, one that should be cherished by their descendants as well as other beneficiaries. Published on the World Wide Web January 1, 2003.  

RESPONSE: Please ALWAYS add in some dates to your request so that a timeline can be established. There are too many years of census, too many marriage books, etc. to look through when not even one date is provided. Make a re-posting to the Mailing List and I will check for you. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Hello, looking for information on Perry Franklin George and Alice Bell King. Preferably their children. I decend from their first son, Terrance Thomas George (T.T.) who had my Father, Ronald David Allen George. Look forward to a response, Sandra (George) sthoney@uplogon.com ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: KYCLAY-L-request@rootsweb.com Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists7.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.39]) by siaag2ae.co<

Hello, looking for information on Perry Franklin George and Alice Bell King. Preferably their children. I decend from their first son, Terrance Thomas George (T.T.) who had my Father, Ronald David Allen George. Look forward to a response, Sandra (George) sthoney@uplogon.com

My cousin is look for her cousin of you are her cousin wood you email her Here her Family George Washington Bundy was born on January 6, 1845 in Manchester (Clay Co.) KY. He died on January 30, 1915 in Pittsburg (Laurel Co.) KY. He was married to Purlina Allen (daughter of Adoniram Allen and Esther Abner) on March 14, 1874 in Manchester (Clay Co.) KY. Purlina Allen was born in 1856 in KY. George Washington Bundy and Purlina Allen had the following children: +2 i. Price Bundy (born in 1875). +3 ii. Gilbert Bundy (born in 1877). +4 iii. Green Bundy (born in 1879). 5 iv. Thee Bundy was born in July 1882 in Laurel Co. KY. He died in 1955 in Burning Springs (Clay Co.) KY. +6 v. Sophia B. Bundy (born in December 1886). 7 vi. Daniel B. Bundy was born in September 1894 in Laurel Co. KY. +8 vii. Robert Bundy (born on September 18, 1895). 9 viii. Roy Bundy was born in July 1899 in Laurel Co. KY. He died on April 21, 1985 in Hamilton (Butler Co.) OH. Opal oppiepatton@msn.com

RESPONSE: Some additional information re Maudie mar. to a COLWELL having had a Liz: From the KY Birth Index: COLWELL, Eugene b. 1-5-1939 in Clay Co.; maiden name of mother: Maudie BAKER; Vol. 197, Cert 92406 - not recorded until 1973 COLWELL, Julia A. b. 12-14-1945 in Clay Co.; maiden name of mother: Maudie BAKER, Vol. 130, Cert 64655 COLWELL, Elizabeth M. b. 12-14 -1945 in Clay Co.; maiden name of mother: Maudie BAKER, Vol. 130-64656 (so your Liz was a twin) COLWELL, Cecil b. 1-17-1944 in Clay Co.; maiden name of mother: Maudie BAKER; Vol. 199, Cert 92821 Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Looking for family of General Baker, born abt. 1918/1920. He is about 81 years old now. As I understand it he had a brother Russell Baker and other siblings. Don't know her maiden name but Ebby/Evie was their mother. General had a sister named Maudie Baker, born abt. 1919, whomarried John Colwell. Their daughter Liz is my sister's mother in law and she was interested in finding any other info but not sure where to look. Linda <

I am so sorry to learn of Hermina's passing. I have corresponded w/ her in the past regarding the Hendricksons of Knox & Bell Co. She was a quality researcher and will be missed. Thanks for letting us know. Regards, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: <RLTJPS@aol.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 11:53 AM Subject: [KYCLAY] Hermina Brinkmeier - family Researcher > Folks I received this from another board. It is with a heavy heart I read > this and share with all who knew Hermina. > > > Hmbgen@aol.com > > >> > Hermina Brinkmeier born Wednesday May 11, 1938 > Died Saturday August 2, 2003. Burial family cemetery West Union > Cemetery, > Gibsonburg, Ohio. > For those who knew her, her death has left us with heavy hearts. > Hermina > was the "Queen" of research in Eastern Kentucky. She maintained the Asher > family data base & book, plus transcribed the 1880, 1910 and had just a > year ago > transcribed the 1930 along with Darlene Sizemore. She worked with Knox > County on > volumes of their work, plus much much more. Over the years she had help a > large amount of people with their own family lineage. She has left a void > in the > genealogy world that I know no one will be able to fill. God bless and > keep > her.>> > > Hermina, was a dear Internet friend and shared much of her work with > myself > and list members. I do not know the details of her passing, and send my > warmest > regards to all her immediate family. > > JOHN in CA (born Leslie County, KY) > >

RESPONSE: Generally speaking I would recommend you start gathering birth and death records and looking at census books. I thought I could give you a boost in the right direction; however, I have not been able to find a "common" denominator with the information you have provided to date. I did a check through the KY birth records. I cannot locate any one mother having a General, a Russell and a Maudie. I can find them with some in Clay, some in Floyd, some in Knox but not a common mother. I have searched the 1930 Fed. Census and cannot locate any two of these names in the same household. So. . . let us begin again. I will look again for you but here is some information I need to know to help me help you! 1. . When was this General born? Are you saying he does not know his own birthdate? Is it possible he was actually a General Lee? 2. WHO was his father or his father's first name? 3. Do you know that they are in Clay Co. or is it possible they could have been anywhere around? 4. I would like the names of each and every sibling you can locate and if someone has some birthyears that would be great. Please come back with some more specifics so we can locate this family. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Looking for family of General Baker, born abt. 1918/1920. He is about 81 years old now. As I understand it he had a brother Russell Baker and other siblings. Don't know her maiden name but Ebby/Evie was their mother. General had a sister named Maudie Baker, born abt. 1919, whomarried John Colwell. Their daughter Liz is my sister's mother in law and she was interested in finding any other info but not sure where to look. Linda ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: KYCLAY-L-request@rootsweb.com Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.39]) by siaag1aa.compuserve.com (8.12.9/8.12.7/SUN-2.7) with ESMTP id h7AF5ivP017726; Sun, 10 Aug 2003 11:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id h7AF59md026765; Sun, 10 Aug 2003 09:05:09 -0600 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 09:05:09 -0600 X-Original-Sender: LynM2T@aol.com<

Looking for family of General Baker, born abt. 1918/1920. He is about 81 years old now. As I understand it he had a brother Russell Baker and other siblings. Don't know her maiden name but Ebby/Evie was their mother. General had a sister named Maudie Baker, born abt. 1919, whomarried John Colwell. Their daughter Liz is my sister's mother in law and she was interested in finding any other info but not sure where to look. Linda

Cassy do you know who Thomas' parents were I have some Hubbard info , but I dont have a Thomas b 1755 Nancy