Betty, Sorry for your loss. ----- Original Message ----- From: "betty allen" <bandgallen@adelphia.net> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 6:59 PM Subject: [KYCLAY] Fw: Obituary Notification > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Betty.Allen@indystar.com> > To: <bandgallen@adelphia.net> > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:15 PM > Subject: Obituary Notification > > > > > > This is an Obituary Notification sent to you by Betty Allen, > > bandgallen@adelphia.net > > > > To view the Obituary Notification, click on the link below, or copy and > > paste it into your web browser: > > > > http://www2.indystar.com/cgi-bin/obituaries/index.php?action=show&id=63256 > > > > Stella A. Philpot 75, Indianapolis, died August 9,2006. Stella retired > from Western Electric in 1980. Services will be Saturday, August 12 at > noon at Shirley Brothers Washington Memorial Chapel, 9606 E. > Washington St. with visitation from 10:00 a.m. Stella is survived by > her son, Larry (Cindy)Philpot; daughter, Linda Philpot; grandchildren, > Brea and Daniel Philpot; 2 brothers and 5 sisters and a host of nieces > and neephews. She was preceded in death by her husband, Hubert > Philpot. > > ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON STELLA ASHER PHILPOT; > > Stella Mae Asher Philpot was born in Laurel County, Kentucky on October > 17, 1930. She was the daughter of the late Leonard F. and Gemima > Gilbert Asher. She is survived by brothers: J.B. and Leonard Asher, Jr. > of Indianapolis, Indiana. Sisters: Sue Asher and Genetta Dye of > Indianapolis, Indiana; Ruby Swider of Detroit, Michigan, Betty Allen > of East Bernstadt, Kentucky and Velma Hale of London, Kentucky; > an Aunt, Mary Travillion of Mundelin, Illinois, an Uncle, S.W. Asher > of Indianapolis, Indiana, and a very special Niece, Jeanie Kelley of > Lancaster, Ohio. Stella was preceded in death by her parents, her > husband, a Brother, G.S. Asher, and Sisters: Mary McColly, Sophia > Shinkle, Martha May, Tevis and Noreda Asher. > > Stella's Maternal Grandparents: General S. (Gen) Gilbert and Elizabeth > (Aunt Liz) Cobb. Great-Grandparents; Felix G. Gilbert and > Catherine Taylor and William Thomas Cobb and Mary Ann Cheek. > > Stella's Paternal Grandparents: Dillion Asher and Rhoda Jane (Janie) > Tuttle. Great-Grandparents: Jackson Asher and Mary Redmon and > Thomas Tuttle and Mary Ann Williams. > > > If you have problems accessing this story, please let us know at > > http://www.indystar.com/help/contact/contact_us.html. > > > > > ==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a NEW email with only the command unsubscribe to: KYCLAY-L-request@rootsweb.com for list or KYCLAY-D-request@rootsweb.com for digest. > > > __________ NOD32 1.1716 (20060820) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <Betty.Allen@indystar.com> To: <bandgallen@adelphia.net> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:15 PM Subject: Obituary Notification > > This is an Obituary Notification sent to you by Betty Allen, > bandgallen@adelphia.net > > To view the Obituary Notification, click on the link below, or copy and > paste it into your web browser: > > http://www2.indystar.com/cgi-bin/obituaries/index.php?action=show&id=63256 > > Stella A. Philpot 75, Indianapolis, died August 9,2006. Stella retired from Western Electric in 1980. Services will be Saturday, August 12 at noon at Shirley Brothers Washington Memorial Chapel, 9606 E. Washington St. with visitation from 10:00 a.m. Stella is survived by her son, Larry (Cindy)Philpot; daughter, Linda Philpot; grandchildren, Brea and Daniel Philpot; 2 brothers and 5 sisters and a host of nieces and neephews. She was preceded in death by her husband, Hubert Philpot. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON STELLA ASHER PHILPOT; Stella Mae Asher Philpot was born in Laurel County, Kentucky on October 17, 1930. She was the daughter of the late Leonard F. and Gemima Gilbert Asher. She is survived by brothers: J.B. and Leonard Asher, Jr. of Indianapolis, Indiana. Sisters: Sue Asher and Genetta Dye of Indianapolis, Indiana; Ruby Swider of Detroit, Michigan, Betty Allen of East Bernstadt, Kentucky and Velma Hale of London, Kentucky; an Aunt, Mary Travillion of Mundelin, Illinois, an Uncle, S.W. Asher of Indianapolis, Indiana, and a very special Niece, Jeanie Kelley of Lancaster, Ohio. Stella was preceded in death by her parents, her husband, a Brother, G.S. Asher, and Sisters: Mary McColly, Sophia Shinkle, Martha May, Tevis and Noreda Asher. Stella's Maternal Grandparents: General S. (Gen) Gilbert and Elizabeth (Aunt Liz) Cobb. Great-Grandparents; Felix G. Gilbert and Catherine Taylor and William Thomas Cobb and Mary Ann Cheek. Stella's Paternal Grandparents: Dillion Asher and Rhoda Jane (Janie) Tuttle. Great-Grandparents: Jackson Asher and Mary Redmon and Thomas Tuttle and Mary Ann Williams. > If you have problems accessing this story, please let us know at > http://www.indystar.com/help/contact/contact_us.html. >

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RESPONSE: Hello, From the Clay Co. Marriage Index, here is their marriage: HORNSBY, Fred to KENNEDY, Gracie - 20 Sep 1911, File 35 From the Kentucky Birth Index, I found these births, all recorded in Clay Co., KY: HORNSBY, Presley b. 5-24-1913 to Gracy KENEDY HORNSBY, Matilda b. 7-11-1918 to Gracy KENADY HORNSBY, Arthur b. 12-26-1919 to Grace KENNEDY HORNSBY, Margret b. 5-18-1923 to Grace KENNEDY 1920 Clay Co. , KY Fed. Census Dwelling 13-14 HORNSBY, Fred, head, 27, b. KY; parents b. KY - farmer . .Grace, wife, 26, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Presley, son, 6, b. KY . .Clarence, son, 4, b. KY . .Evaline, dau, 3, b. KY . .Matilda, dau, 1, b. KY . .Arthur, son, 0 months, b. KY I do not see them in Clay Co., KY as of the 1930. Okay, they are now in Harlan Co. 1930 Harlan Co., KY Black Star Precinct First Street Dwelling 29-13-14 HORNSBY, Fred, 37, head, mar. at 19, b. KY; parents b. KY - coal mine laborer . .Grace, wife, 36, mar. at 18, b. KY; father b.: Irish Free State; mother b. KY . . Pressley, 16, son, b. KY . .Clarence, 14, son, b. KY . .Evelyen, dau, 14, b. KY . .Matilda, 11, dau, b. KY . .Arthur, 10, son, b. KY . .John, 8, son, b. KY . .Margarett, 6, dau, b. KY From the KDI: Fred HORNSBY lived and died in Knox Co., KY on 1-6-1957 at the age of 64 years, Vol. 3, Cert #1151 From the earlier census, he appears to be the s/o a Spencer and Jesten HORNSBY where he shows up with a bunch of other children and other HORNSBYs in Clay Co. on the 1910 Clay. As for the KBI in Harlan Co., it appears that Grace had one other child that was recorded. It is not unusual at all for them all not to be recorded or perhaps be recorded in some way incorrectly so that they just don't show up. Often children were born at home with some midwife or neighbor woman officiating and there just weren't any records of their births even if it was after 1911 when official recordings began. HORNSBY, Marie I. b. 4-22-1931 in Harlan Co., Ky to Grace KENNEDY Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 8/20/2006 12:03:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dijohn@blueriver.net writes: > Could someone look up for me in the 1920 and or 1930 Clay Census these > people, I am trying to find out the names and birth years of their children. > Fredrick Hornsby b 1892 Clay, KY > his wife > Grace Kennedy Hornsby b 1893 Clay, KY > > Diana J., Washington Co., IN >

Could someone look up for me in the 1920 and or 1930 Clay Census these people, I am trying to find out the names and birth years of their children. Fredrick Hornsby b 1892 Clay, KY his wife Grace Kennedy Hornsby b 1893 Clay, KY Diana J., Washington Co., IN

I don't really think so, but what makes you think this? I never discount anything. As far as I know, Mary Ann Yager md Charles Robertson and had daus. Sarah, Milly, Elizabeth and Mary. Grace SFD232@aol.com writes: > Joyce: > Is Julie Ann Robertson a descendant of Joseph Yager and Sarah Chick, thru > one of their daus. Mary Ann? > Sarah

RESPONSE: Sorry, I really don't know. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 8/18/2006 2:56:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, SFD232@aol.com writes: > Joyce: > Is Julie Ann Robertson a descendant of Joseph Yager and Sarah Chick, thru > one of their daus. Mary Ann? > Sarah >

Joyce: Is Julie Ann Robertson a descendant of Joseph Yager and Sarah Chick, thru one of their daus. Mary Ann? Sarah

I want to thank everyone for their help!! Diana,J Washington Co., IN

Sorry, again Emanuel Cope died in 1891 Clay Co., KY Then his wife Julia Roberts remarried to John Kennedy They had one daughter Grace Kennedy b.1893 d.1977 and she Married Fredrick Hornsby B. 1892 Clay, KY d. 1857 Clay, KY. If anyone is interested in this family I have some pictures that I will share. Sorry again about the mix up on the dates, I have been putting in long days in a hot factory and I think my brain is being fried. LOL I will try to do better. Diana J Washington Co., IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana R Johnson" <dijohn@blueriver.net> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:45 AM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Emanuel Cope > Sorry, that was a typo -- Emanuel was born in year 1845 in Tennessee and > died 1952 in Clay, KY > Diana > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Joycetcollins@cs.com> > To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:29 PM > Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Emanuel Cope > > > > RESPONSE: > > Hello, > > > > There is "something" wrong with the information you have posted . There > is > > NO Emauel COPE on the 1850, 1860 or 1880 Clay Co. Fed. Census. You > also > > have that he was b. 1845 and d. 1852 so something is wrong there also. > > > > Joyce Taylor Collins > > La Palma, CA > > > > In a message dated 8/17/2006 12:49:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > dijohn@blueriver.net writes: > > > I am looking for someone who can help me find out more about this > family. > > > > > > Emanuel Cope - b.1845 TN d. 1852 Clay Co, KY > > > his wife (does anyone know when they married) > > > Julia Ann Roberts - b. 1852 d. 1935 > > > > > > their Children > > > Millia Jane - (my great grandmother) > > > Elizabeth > > > Rena Catherine > > > Jeanetta > > > Thomas Standfield > > > > > > ==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== > > To browse or search our archives, go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/KY/clay.html and scroll down to > "Archives". > > > > > > ==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a NEW email with only the command unsubscribe to: KYCLAY-L-request@rootsweb.com for list or KYCLAY-D-request@rootsweb.com for digest. >

Sorry, that was a typo -- Emanuel was born in year 1845 in Tennessee and died 1952 in Clay, KY Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: <Joycetcollins@cs.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Emanuel Cope > RESPONSE: > Hello, > > There is "something" wrong with the information you have posted . There is > NO Emauel COPE on the 1850, 1860 or 1880 Clay Co. Fed. Census. You also > have that he was b. 1845 and d. 1852 so something is wrong there also. > > Joyce Taylor Collins > La Palma, CA > > In a message dated 8/17/2006 12:49:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > dijohn@blueriver.net writes: > > I am looking for someone who can help me find out more about this family. > > > > Emanuel Cope - b.1845 TN d. 1852 Clay Co, KY > > his wife (does anyone know when they married) > > Julia Ann Roberts - b. 1852 d. 1935 > > > > their Children > > Millia Jane - (my great grandmother) > > Elizabeth > > Rena Catherine > > Jeanetta > > Thomas Standfield > > > ==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== > To browse or search our archives, go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/KY/clay.html and scroll down to "Archives". >

Okay, thank you.

RESPONSE: Hello, I am adding a bit more information to the documentation I already provided: Clay Co. Vital Stats: BIRTHS COPE, Mary J. birthdate: 9-28-1876 birthplace: Clay Co., KY father: Manuel COPE birthplace: Hancock Co., TN mother: Juli Ann ROBERTSON birthplace: Jackson Co., KY res: Clay Co., KY CoPE, John P. birthdate: 12-1-1876 birthplace: Rockcastle Co., KY father: James COPE birthplace: Hancock Co., TN mother: Elizabeth LINVILL birthplace; Pulaski Co., KY res: Clay Co., KY Clay Co. Vital Stats - DEATHS COPE, Martishea age: 6 death date: 8-20-1874 cause of death: hives birthplace: Clay Co., KY parents: George W. and Fanny COPE father b.: Hancock Co., TN mother b: Clay Co., KY NOTE: Boy, this family sure moved around. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 8/17/2006 1:04:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Joycetcollins@cs.com writes: > RESPONSE: > Hello, > > I have already written to you regarding the fact these folks are not present > > in 1850-1880 Clay Co. so originated elsewhere and came into Clay Co. later > on > at some point. > > I did a little research for you this morning and I "think" I have located > bits and pieces of what are your ancestors. Perhaps with some of this > additional information, you will be able to connect some marriages in either > TN or KY.

In a message dated 8/17/2006 3:51:35 PM Central Standard Time, bethhacker@insightbb.com writes: Hi Cosetta, Do you have a date of birth for Eva Fox? I have this Fox family listed on my FTM, but didn't have a daughter named Eva. I would love to have more information on her. Thank you, Jeri ------------------------ Beth Hacker, > > You asked about Will Hacker's parents. They were: > > Julius Hacker married Zelphia Burns, their son Jessie (Jesse) b. > Jan.11,1869 d. Aug.12,1947, married Nancy A.Fields b.Apr.17,1872, d.Aug.7, > 1956. Their son William (Will) Hacker married Eva Fox. After Will and Eva > Fox divorced he married Mary Ellen Childs the d/o Will and Sylvania > Robinson. Will and Mary Ellen had the following children: > Delilah, Andrew, Dovie, Wilburn, Tinsley, Wylie Boone and Archie. > > Jessie and Nannie Hacker had the following children: > > 1. William (Will) see above. > > 2. Rhoda Hacker married Ben Fox. > > 3. Lizzie Hacker b.July 29,1903, d. March 6, 1925. She married Shade Fox > > Interesting note: > > Eva, Shade and Ben Fox were brothers and sisters and were the children of > George Washington Fox and Lucinda Bishop. > > Emma, sorry, but this is of interest to you also... > > Cosetta

Thanks so much. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cosetta Dowdell" <bubbalilgen@yahoo.com> To: <KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Fox Family > Beth Hacker, > > You asked about Will Hacker's parents. They were: > > Julius Hacker married Zelphia Burns, their son Jessie (Jesse) b. > Jan.11,1869 d. Aug.12,1947, married Nancy A.Fields b.Apr.17,1872, d.Aug.7, > 1956. Their son William (Will) Hacker married Eva Fox. After Will and Eva > Fox divorced he married Mary Ellen Childs the d/o Will and Sylvania > Robinson. Will and Mary Ellen had the following children: > Delilah, Andrew, Dovie, Wilburn, Tinsley, Wylie Boone and Archie. > > Jessie and Nannie Hacker had the following children: > > 1. William (Will) see above. > > 2. Rhoda Hacker married Ben Fox. > > 3. Lizzie Hacker b.July 29,1903, d. March 6, 1925. She married Shade Fox > > Interesting note: > > Eva, Shade and Ben Fox were brothers and sisters and were the children of > George Washington Fox and Lucinda Bishop. > > Emma, sorry, but this is of interest to you also... > > Cosetta > > > > > emma himmelhaver <ehimmelhaver@msn.com> wrote: Wow thanks Crsetta,This > will help alot. > > Emma > > > From: "Beth Hacker" > Reply-To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Fox Family > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:08 -0400 > > Who was Will's parents? > Thanks Myrtle > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cosetta Dowdell" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:53 PM > Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Fox Family > > >> Emma, >> >> Will Hacker married Eva (Evie) Fox. They had the following children, >> McKinnley Hacker b. Jan.23, 1920, He married an English lady named Violet >>??. McKinnley was killed in the 1970's and is buried in Florida. >> >> Lilly Hacker b. July 25,1922. She married Jim Blanton. Lilly died in 1990 >>and is buried in Hamilton Ohio. >> >> Birchel Hacker b. Feb.11,1924. He never married and died June 28, 1993, >>and is buried in the Allen Cemetery near Oneida Ky >> >> Bradley Hacker b. April 12,1927. He married Ruth Oaks. Ruth died in 2000. >> >> Hope this will help in your Fox search. >> >> Cosetta Hacker Dowdell >> >> >> >>emma himmelhaver wrote: >>Hi i am looking for death certificates for Martin Fox born 1850 died >>12-1904 >>Clay County, his wife Perlina whom i think died around the same time and >>His >>first three daughters Hannah Fox born 1873 married Jim McDaniel,Mahala >>born >>1874 (Hally, Hallie <) Fox she married Noah Thompson >>Emma,Louvina( Lavinna, Vinnah) FoxBorn 1878 she married Will Hacker >>Any help would be appreciated. >> >>Emma >> >> >> >>==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== >>Posting of virus warnings, test messages, items for sale, personal >>messages, etc., is not allowed and will be grounds for removal. >>Rootsweb's Acceptable Use Policy can be reviewed here: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html >> >> >> >> >> Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid........by Col >>David Hackworth >> Let there be peace in all the world, and let it begin with me....... >> >> >>==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== >>Posting of virus warnings, test messages, items for sale, personal >>messages, etc., is not allowed and will be grounds for removal. >>Rootsweb's Acceptable Use Policy can be reviewed here: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html >> > > > ==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== > To browse or search our archives, go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/KY/clay.html and scroll down to > "Archives". > > > > ==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== > Don't miss out! Check out the Clay County GenWeb page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyclay2/ > > > > > Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid........by Col > David Hackworth > Let there be peace in all the world, and let it begin with me....... > > > ==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== > Don't miss out! Check out the Clay County GenWeb page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyclay2/ >

Diana, Upon searching Ancestry.com, I found the following: 1870 census, Madison Co., KY Emanuel Cope, age 24, born TN Julia, age 17, keeping house, born KY ...no children recorded.... 1880 census, Rockcastle Co., KY Emanuel Cope, age 34, born TN, father and mother born TN Julia A., wife, age 27, born KY, father born North Carolina and mother born KY Elizabeth, daughter, age 9, born KY Surrena C., ??, daughter, age 7, born KY Millie J., daughter, age 3, born KY (...this is most likely your great grandmother...) They are living next door to: James Cope, age 78, born TN, father and mother born TN Elizabeth, wife, age 25, born KY, father and mother born KY John G., son, age 3, born KY Louetta, white female, age 9/12, born KY Living next door to James Cope in 1880 is the family of (looks like...) Orvel A. Cope, age 37 1900 census, Clay Co., KY, Emanual's wife, Julia Ann is remarried to: John Kennedy, born May 1839, age 61, born Ireland, father and mother born Ireland July Ann Kennedy, wife, born May 1852 Kentucky, age 48, mother of 8, 7 living, married first at age 15 (note: she was born May 1852, married first at age 15, so she and Emanuel most likely married about 1867 or 1868...refer to her age of 17 in the 1870 census above) Jenett Cope, stepdaughter, born Sep. 1879 Kentucky, age 20, single Thomas Cope, stepson, born May 1883 Kentucky, age 17, single Elias Cope, stepson, born Feb 1886 Kentucky, age 14, single Eli Cope, stepson, born July 1888 Kentucky, age 11, single Grace Kennedy, daughter, born June 1893 Kentucky, age 7, single Mary Cope, stepdaughter??, born May 1898 Kentucky, age 2, single Good luck in your search, Donald DeZarn -----Original Message----- From: Diana R Johnson [mailto:dijohn@blueriver.net] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:44 AM To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCLAY] Emanuel Cope I am looking for someone who can help me find out more about this family. Emanuel Cope - b.1845 TN d. 1852 Clay Co, KY his wife (does anyone know when they married) Julia Ann Roberts - b. 1852 d. 1935 their Children Millia Jane - (my great grandmother) Elizabeth Rena Catherine Jeanetta Thomas Standfield Eli I am interested in finding out more about my great grandmother's siblings - like who they married and their children. I will appreciate any help I can get. Thank you, Diana ==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== Don't miss out! Check out the Clay County GenWeb page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyclay2/

RESPONSE: Hello, I have already written to you regarding the fact these folks are not present in 1850-1880 Clay Co. so originated elsewhere and came into Clay Co. later on at some point. I did a little research for you this morning and I "think" I have located bits and pieces of what are your ancestors. Perhaps with some of this additional information, you will be able to connect some marriages in either TN or KY. I first located them in the 1880 Rockcastle Co., KY Fed. Census surrounded by what appeared to be brothers at that point. Dwelling 470-279 COPE, Emanuel, 34, b. TN; parents b. TN . .Julia A., wife, b. KY; father b. NC; mother b. KY . .Elizabeth, 9, dau, b. KY . .Surrence? C., 7, dau, b. KY . .Millie J., 3, dau, b. KY * * NOTE: Therefore, it might be they married in Rockcastle Co., KY but I really don't know. Dwelling 471-280 COPE, James, 28, b. TN; parents b. TN . .Elizabeth, 25, wife, b. kY; parents b. KY . .John O., 3, b. KY . .Genetta?, dau, b. Sept in KY - 9 months of age Dwelling 472-281 COPE, Orvel? A., 37, b. TN; parents b. TN . .Malissa, 36, b. TN; parents b. TN . .John, 12, b. TN . .Sarah, 10, b. TN . .Cordelia, 8, b. KY . .James, 6, son, b. KY . .Emily, 4, dau, b. KY . .Hannah J., 2, b. KY After looking a while in TN, I discovered this family which appears to me to be Orvel and Emanuel/Manuel's parents: 1850 Hancock Co., TN Dwelling 365-365 COPE, John, 53, b. TN . .Jane, 44, b. TN . .Isaac, 17, b. TN . .Linda, 14, b. TN . .Rena, 12, b. TN . .Samuel, 9, b. TN . .Orvil, 7, b. TN * * . .Manuel, 5, b. TN * * . .Luther, 1, b. TN BOHARS, Sarah (very difficult to read but looks like 80 years of age, b. VA NOTE: It might just be that this Sarah BOHARS is Jane's mother. Now going forward to the 1860, it appears that this COPE family has migrated next county to Grainger Co., TN and although her age is off, this certainly appears to be the same 1850 family and now with the addition of James who shows up with Emanuel, Orvil and James on the 1880 Rockcastle Co., KY Fed. Census. 1860 Grainger Co., TN Dwelling 1295-1295 COPE, Jane, 33, widow, b. TN . .Saml, 19, b. TN . .Orvil, 17, b. TN * * . .Emanuel, 14, b. TN * * . . Luther L., 10, b. TN . .James P., 8, b. TN IMES, Martha, 19, spinster, b. TN Dwelling 1296-1296 COPE, Isaac, 26, tenant, b. TN . .Allie, 29, b. TN . .Arrena M., 3, b. TN In the Grainger Co., TN marriage records, here is the marriage for Orvil/Orvel/Orval COPE and his wife: COPE, Orval to SINGLETON, Melisa on 30 Aug 1865 by I. R. GREEN, minister Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 8/17/2006 12:49:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dijohn@blueriver.net writes: > I am looking for someone who can help me find out more about this family. > > Emanuel Cope - b.1845 TN d. 1852 Clay Co, KY > his wife (does anyone know when they married) > Julia Ann Roberts - b. 1852 d. 1935 > > their Children > Millia Jane - (my great grandmother) > Elizabeth > Rena Catherine > Jeanetta > Thomas Standfield > Eli > > I am interested in finding out more about my great grandmother's siblings - > like who they married and their children. > > I will appreciate any help I can get. > Thank you, Diana >

I'm sorry but I don't think I have the birth date for Eva. At least not that I've run across......Cosetta Jeri006@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/17/2006 3:51:35 PM Central Standard Time, bethhacker@insightbb.com writes: Hi Cosetta, Do you have a date of birth for Eva Fox? I have this Fox family listed on my FTM, but didn't have a daughter named Eva. I would love to have more information on her. Thank you, Jeri ------------------------ Beth Hacker, > > You asked about Will Hacker's parents. They were: > > Julius Hacker married Zelphia Burns, their son Jessie (Jesse) b. > Jan.11,1869 d. Aug.12,1947, married Nancy A.Fields b.Apr.17,1872, d.Aug.7, > 1956. Their son William (Will) Hacker married Eva Fox. After Will and Eva > Fox divorced he married Mary Ellen Childs the d/o Will and Sylvania > Robinson. Will and Mary Ellen had the following children: > Delilah, Andrew, Dovie, Wilburn, Tinsley, Wylie Boone and Archie. > > Jessie and Nannie Hacker had the following children: > > 1. William (Will) see above. > > 2. Rhoda Hacker married Ben Fox. > > 3. Lizzie Hacker b.July 29,1903, d. March 6, 1925. She married Shade Fox > > Interesting note: > > Eva, Shade and Ben Fox were brothers and sisters and were the children of > George Washington Fox and Lucinda Bishop. > > Emma, sorry, but this is of interest to you also... > > Cosetta ==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== You can search Kentucky death records 1911-2000 here: http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ky/death/search.cgi Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid........by Col David Hackworth Let there be peace in all the world, and let it begin with me.......

this family is in my vol 2 on clay co families.it has 4 pages on your family.there was 7 children i have emauel grandchildren as well as his brother and sister children and his parent and grandparents names. They are not related to the other Cope in clay co.Most of which are related to 2 president of the usa. email me at my home address. james e welch -----Original Message----- >From: Diana R Johnson <dijohn@blueriver.net> >Sent: Aug 17, 2006 3:44 AM >To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KYCLAY] Emanuel Cope > >I am looking for someone who can help me find out more about this family. > >Emanuel Cope - b.1845 TN d. 1852 Clay Co, KY >his wife (does anyone know when they married) >Julia Ann Roberts - b. 1852 d. 1935 > >their Children >Millia Jane - (my great grandmother) >Elizabeth >Rena Catherine >Jeanetta >Thomas Standfield >Eli > >I am interested in finding out more about my great grandmother's siblings - like who they married and their children. > >I will appreciate any help I can get. >Thank you, Diana > > >==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== >Don't miss out! Check out the Clay County GenWeb page! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyclay2/ >

Hey that's good enough i will do somemore diggin Thanks Emma From: Cosetta Dowdell <bubbalilgen@yahoo.com> Reply-To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Fox Family Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Emma, One last thing, Bradley and Ruth Oaks Hacker's children are Debra, Michael, Brian, Tom, David and Jeff. I don't have any further info on Bradley or his children, other then he lived in the Hamilton Ohio area. Cosetta emma himmelhaver <ehimmelhaver@msn.com> wrote: Wow thanks Crsetta,This will help alot. Emma From: "Beth Hacker" Reply-To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com To: KYCLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Fox Family Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:08 -0400 Who was Will's parents? Thanks Myrtle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cosetta Dowdell" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Fox Family > Emma, > > Will Hacker married Eva (Evie) Fox. They had the following children, > McKinnley Hacker b. Jan.23, 1920, He married an English lady named Violet >??. McKinnley was killed in the 1970's and is buried in Florida. > > Lilly Hacker b. July 25,1922. She married Jim Blanton. Lilly died in 1990 >and is buried in Hamilton Ohio. > > Birchel Hacker b. Feb.11,1924. He never married and died June 28, 1993, >and is buried in the Allen Cemetery near Oneida Ky > > Bradley Hacker b. April 12,1927. He married Ruth Oaks. Ruth died in 2000. > > Hope this will help in your Fox search. > > Cosetta Hacker Dowdell > > > >emma himmelhaver wrote: >Hi i am looking for death certificates for Martin Fox born 1850 died >12-1904 >Clay County, his wife Perlina whom i think died around the same time and >His >first three daughters Hannah Fox born 1873 married Jim McDaniel,Mahala born >1874 (Hally, Hallie <) Fox she married Noah Thompson >Emma,Louvina( Lavinna, Vinnah) FoxBorn 1878 she married Will Hacker >Any help would be appreciated. > >Emma > > > >==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== >Posting of virus warnings, test messages, items for sale, personal >messages, etc., is not allowed and will be grounds for removal. >Rootsweb's Acceptable Use Policy can be reviewed here: >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > > > > > Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid........by Col >David Hackworth > Let there be peace in all the world, and let it begin with me....... > > >==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== >Posting of virus warnings, test messages, items for sale, personal >messages, etc., is not allowed and will be grounds for removal. >Rootsweb's Acceptable Use Policy can be reviewed here: >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > ==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== To browse or search our archives, go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/KY/clay.html and scroll down to "Archives". ==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== Don't miss out! Check out the Clay County GenWeb page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyclay2/ Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid........by Col David Hackworth Let there be peace in all the world, and let it begin with me....... ==== KYCLAY Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a NEW email with only the command unsubscribe to: KYCLAY-L-request@rootsweb.com for list or KYCLAY-D-request@rootsweb.com for digest.