Marilyn, Helped? I've been looking for years for the confirmation that Richens' wife was named Catherine. I've never known her name, but on my ggrandmother's (Frances Virginia "Fannie" Brame Wootton [married to David Christopher Wootton]) grave it said she was the dau. of C. & R. Brame. I knew Fannie's father was Richens' Brame, says so on her marriage record in Mecklenburg Co, VA. I suspected her mother was Catherine--from the combination of the gravestone & that her oldest dau. was Mary Catherine (Mary, her paternal grandmother). I don't know yet who those other people are on the census w/them; but that will give me some more direction. And how nice of you to give me the next households! The James Brame is Fannie's brother. I know none of her other siblings, but someone told me Richens had 10 children (but the lady's health was poor, & she was unable to tell me more). Joseph living nearby may also be a brother. Fannie was grown w/children when they moved to Christian Co. (1830); so I don't know if all the family moved to KY or some stayed in VA. Fannie & her husband David Wootton both died in Christian Co. during the Civil War & are buried in Flat Lick Cemetary. I suspect Fannie's mother's maiden name was Lacy, as her oldest son, my ggrandfather was named Richens Lacy W. --but clues, only. I'm sorry to ramble on so; I know I've already told you more than you wanted to know--I'm so pleased; I just appreciate this so. Thank you, Jan. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!