Don't know if everyone is aware of it or not but you can get this information on 3 (Three) Cd's from the state of Kentucky. Cost is $30. No matter what you have your information. Works for me, I take mine everywhere, access even when I am not online. Great resource! Karen Check out some of our web pages: *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) *http://www.miprofgenie.com *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames *Researcher, Author & Speaker *Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 248*670*1243 -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Pike [mailto:spike00@kih.net] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 6:57 AM To: KYCHRIST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCHRIST] Kentucky Vital Records 1911-1953 The Kentucky Death certificates for 1911-1953 are available on microfilm at the Kentucky Historical Society and other genealogical libraries in Kentucky. At KHS the cost is .30 each. The deaths are indexed online at: Rootsweb http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ky/death/search.cgi (1911-2000) Vital Search http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/ (1911-2002) University of Kentucky http://ukcc.uky.edu/~vitalrec/ (1911-1986) This will not change if the legislation passes. Only the later certificates will not be available. Sharon ==== KYCHRIST Mailing List ==== Christian Co. History & Genealogy http://www.kyseeker.com/christian ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

The Kentucky Death certificates for 1911-1953 are available on microfilm at the Kentucky Historical Society and other genealogical libraries in Kentucky. At KHS the cost is .30 each. The deaths are indexed online at: Rootsweb http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ky/death/search.cgi (1911-2000) Vital Search http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/ (1911-2002) University of Kentucky http://ukcc.uky.edu/~vitalrec/ (1911-1986) This will not change if the legislation passes. Only the later certificates will not be available. Sharon

Usually the ruling is that the state can control ONLY the holdings in the possession of the STATE. So anything else that is on the loose is fair game. Ohio had the same issue, and the Ohio Historical Society still has all their records intact. So I would think the same would go for Kentucky. Karen Check out some of our web pages: *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) *http://www.miprofgenie.com *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames *Researcher, Author & Speaker *Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 248*670*1243 -----Original Message----- From: Tad717@cs.com [mailto:Tad717@cs.com] Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 8:44 PM To: KYCHRIST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCHRIST] Kentucky Vital Records Alert! Does anyone know if we will still be able to access the KY. Death index at ancestry.com and other websites if this bill passes? Thanks! Catherine ==== KYCHRIST Mailing List ==== Christian Co. History & Genealogy http://www.kyseeker.com/christian ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Does anyone know if we will still be able to access the KY. Death index at ancestry.com and other websites if this bill passes? Thanks! Catherine

Very Good Question. I sure hope we can. Maybe this bill won't pass. Linda

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Pike" <spike00@kih.net> To: <KYCHRIST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 7:14 AM Subject: [KYCHRIST] Kentucky Vital Records Alert! > The Kentucky Legislature is getting ready to drastically limit > access to Kentucky vital records including BIRTHS, DEATHS, > MARRIAGES, and DIVORCE. > > (MILITARY RECORDS are also being limited but I do not know > which bill is involved.) > > You can find the entire bill at: > http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/record/04rs/HB100/SCS1.doc > > Death certificates will still be public record after 50 years but > more recent death certificates will only be available to: > 1. the decedent's widow or widower, > 2. child eighteen (18) years of age or older > 3. parent > 4. grandparent > 5. sibling eighteen (18) years of age or older > 6. funeral director handling the decedent's funeral arrangements > 7. personal representative of the decedent's estate > 8. a named beneficiary of an insurance policy of the decedent > 9. a person with a claim against the decedent's estate > > This means that genealogists can no longer order great-uncle Jasper's > death certificate to see his parents' names. > > Birth records will be have limited access while the person is living but > will still be public record after 100 years. Divorce and marriage records > will be closed for 70 years. > > We are very late in the process. > Jan 6-introduced in House; to Health and Welfare (H) > Jan 15-posted in committee > Jan 29-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee > Substitute > Jan 30-2nd reading, to Rules; floor amendment (1) filed to Committee > Substitute > Feb 2-posted for passage in the Regular Orders of the Day for Tuesday, > February 3, 2004 > Feb 10-3rd reading, passed 94-2 with Committee Substitute, floor > amendment (1) > Feb 11-received in Senate > Feb 17-to State and Local Government (S) > Mar 16-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee > Substitute > Mar 17-2nd reading, to Rules > THIS TUESDAY, March 23, this bill will be voted on in the full Senate. If it > passes, it will go to Gov. Fletcher for his signature into law. > > Call and email your senator and let him know that you want HB 100 to fail. > Time is critical! Do it by Monday, at the latest. > > You can find your Senator at > http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/whoswho/whoswho.htm > > Telephone: 502-564-8100 > FAX : 502-564-6543 > Postal address: 700 Capitol Avenue, Frankfort, KY 40601 > > Toll Free Numbers - 2004 Session (only for Kentucky) > Bill Status Line: 1-866-301-9004 > Legislative Message Line: 1-800-372-7181 > > This is the same bill that failed in committee during the last > Legislative session. The genealogists of the state worked together > to stop its passage. Please pass this information along to others. > > > > ==== KYCHRIST Mailing List ==== > Christian Co. History & Genealogy > http://www.kyseeker.com/christian > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.637 / Virus Database: 408 - Release Date: 3/20/2004

Here's how a new law works in California. The state Vital Records Office has closed its doors to the public and it takes about 2 years to get a copy from the state. Yep....2 years. The counties are much faster, but I'm sure each one has similar restrictions. New Law Effective July 1, 2003 In an attempt to stop the illegal use of birth and death certificates, and as part of the effort to reduce identity theft, there has been a change in law and the way that certified copies of birth and death certificates are obtained. Effective July 1, 2003, there are two types of certified copies of birth and death records. The first type is a regular certified copy identical to those issued prior to July 1, 2003. These will be issued only to authorized individuals as defined by California Health and Safety Code Section 103526. The second type is also a regular certified copy; however, it will have a legend across the face with the statement "INFORMATIONAL, NOT A VALID DOCUMENT TO ESTABLISH IDENTITY." Both of these documents are certified copies of the original document on file with our office. With the exception of the "legend," they are exactly the same and contain exactly the same information. The new law describes an authorized person as: a.. The registrant (person listed on the certificate) or a parent or legal guardian of the registrant. b.. A party entitled to receive the record as a result of a court order, or an attorney or a licensed adoption agency seeking the birth record in order to comply with the requirements of Section 3140 or 7603 of the Family Code. c.. A member of a law enforcement agency or a representative of another governmental agency, as provided by law, who is conducting official business. (Companies representing a government agency must provide authorization from the government agency.) d.. A child, grandparent, grandchild, sibling, spouse, or domestic partner of the registrant. e.. An attorney representing the registrant or the registrant's estate, or any person or agency empowered by statute or appointed by a court to act on behalf of the registrant or the registrant's estate. (If you are requesting a Certified Copy under the power of attorney, please include a copy of the power of attorney with the application form.) In order to obtain a Certified Copy after July 1, 2003, you MUST complete the sworn statement included with the birth certificate application form and sign the statement under penalty of perjury. Your sworn statement must be notarized. If your request indicates that you want a Certified Copy but does not include a notarized statement sworn under penalty of perjury, the request will be rejected as incomplete and returned to you without being processed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Clark" <Lclark@brtc.net> To: <KYCHRIST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [KYCHRIST] Kentucky Vital Records Alert! > Very Good Question. I sure hope we can. Maybe this bill won't pass. > Linda > > > ==== KYCHRIST Mailing List ==== > Christian Co. History & Genealogy > http://www.kyseeker.com/christian > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

I am searching for the parents of Jane Alexander and Whitmill Holland. Jane and Whitmill probably were married in Christian Co,Ky . as their first child was born in 1819 and Triggs Co was formed soon after.Jane and Whitmill lived in Triggs Co, Ky until about 1837 when they moved to what is now Henry Co, Mo. Children of Whitmill Holland and Jane Alexander Farrington C. b 1819 Ky Elizabeth b 1822 Ky ( Elizabeth is my ggg grandmother --she first married Anber Berry Finks,Sr and second married John Parks, in Henry Co , Missouri)) Thomas b 1826 Ky Alfred b 1829 Ky Margaret b 1832 Ky Nancy b 1834 Ky Cynthia b 1835 Ky Whitmill ,Jr b 1837 Ky Frederick b 1843 Mo by second wife Mary Finks Rains ( widow) (Mary was the sister Abner Berry Finks,Sr) Rufus b 1850 Mo F.C. Holland is my ggg grandmother's Elizabeth Holland Finks's brother. HOLLAND, F. C. ( Farrington C.) source: 1883 History of Henry Co., Missouri , National Historical Co., pg: 680 --- F. C. Holland, farmer, section 32, is one of Henry County's earliest pioneers, having come to the county in 1837 with his parents, Whitemill and Jane (Alexander) Holland, they settling near Brownington. He is a native of Trigg County, Kentucky, and was born January 15, 1819. His father was born in North Carolina in 1794 and was married in Kentucky, Mrs. Holland being a native of that state. They had a family of nine children, of whom F. C. was the eldest. He was married December 6, 1849, in Missouri to Miss Eliza A. Arnett, who came originally from Bath County, Kentucky, born April 8, 1823. She was a daughter of Ahi and Parmelia (Evans) Arnett, both Kentuckians by birth. The former was born in 1800 and the latter in 1802. To them were born ten children, and of these Eliza was the eldest. The family moved to Montgomery County, Illinois, and later to Henry County, Missouri, in 1842. Mr. Holland and his wife settled in Clinton Township after their marriage and remained the! re till 1867, then moving to where they now reside. The farm consists of eighty acres of fine land, improved and well watered. They have reared a large family of children and are known for their kindness to orphans. They have lived to see Henry County in all the varied stages of her growth, and during the late war afforded relief to many widows and orphans. They are both members of the Cumberland Presbyterian Church, By 1850 Elizabeth Holland's first husband, Abner Berry Finks,Sr had died and she had remarried--John Parks and she is listed under John Parks in the census for Henry Co.,Mo. 1850 census for Henry Co Mo Grand River Township 332 332 Farrington C. Holland 30 Ky Eliza A 27 Ky 333 333 Whitmill Holland 56 N.C. Mary 40 Va ( Jane died and Whitemill married Mary Finks Rains--a widow- she is the sister of Abner Berry Finks, Sr.) Thomas J . 24 Ky Alfred 21 Ky Margaret 18 Ky Nancy 16 Ky Cynthia 15 Ky Whitmill ,Jr 13 Ky Frederich 7 Mo Child by his second wife Mary Finks Rains Holland Rufus 4/12 Mo Mary L Rains 8 Mo-- daughter of Mary Finks Rains and Mr. Rains. Farrington C. Holland married Eliza Ann Arnett Dec 6 1849 Henry Co,Mo Whitmill Holland married Mary Finks Rains Sep 2 1845 Henry Co ,Mo Any help will be greatly appreciated. Hilma Ardito Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

The Kentucky Legislature is getting ready to drastically limit access to Kentucky vital records including BIRTHS, DEATHS, MARRIAGES, and DIVORCE. (MILITARY RECORDS are also being limited but I do not know which bill is involved.) You can find the entire bill at: http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/record/04rs/HB100/SCS1.doc Death certificates will still be public record after 50 years but more recent death certificates will only be available to: 1. the decedent's widow or widower, 2. child eighteen (18) years of age or older 3. parent 4. grandparent 5. sibling eighteen (18) years of age or older 6. funeral director handling the decedent's funeral arrangements 7. personal representative of the decedent's estate 8. a named beneficiary of an insurance policy of the decedent 9. a person with a claim against the decedent's estate This means that genealogists can no longer order great-uncle Jasper's death certificate to see his parents' names. Birth records will be have limited access while the person is living but will still be public record after 100 years. Divorce and marriage records will be closed for 70 years. We are very late in the process. Jan 6-introduced in House; to Health and Welfare (H) Jan 15-posted in committee Jan 29-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee Substitute Jan 30-2nd reading, to Rules; floor amendment (1) filed to Committee Substitute Feb 2-posted for passage in the Regular Orders of the Day for Tuesday, February 3, 2004 Feb 10-3rd reading, passed 94-2 with Committee Substitute, floor amendment (1) Feb 11-received in Senate Feb 17-to State and Local Government (S) Mar 16-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee Substitute Mar 17-2nd reading, to Rules THIS TUESDAY, March 23, this bill will be voted on in the full Senate. If it passes, it will go to Gov. Fletcher for his signature into law. Call and email your senator and let him know that you want HB 100 to fail. Time is critical! Do it by Monday, at the latest. You can find your Senator at http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/whoswho/whoswho.htm Telephone: 502-564-8100 FAX : 502-564-6543 Postal address: 700 Capitol Avenue, Frankfort, KY 40601 Toll Free Numbers - 2004 Session (only for Kentucky) Bill Status Line: 1-866-301-9004 Legislative Message Line: 1-800-372-7181 This is the same bill that failed in committee during the last Legislative session. The genealogists of the state worked together to stop its passage. Please pass this information along to others.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/mAB.2ACE/2583 Message Board Post: Does anyone know the names of Jeannette (maiden name Mojors ) married name Alexander, parents. I think her fathers name was Jim Majors, mothers maiden name was Vaughn. I think she had 2 sisters, name : Mary & Susie.And 1 brother name Almond. Her 1st. husband was James Samples 2nd husband was Henry Walter Alexander. Any data would be most helpful. She was my grandmother. Thanks Theresa Norris

I believe it says 1797-- Find info here: http://www.kyseeker.com/christian/ccgsbks.htm Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: <RussCap@aol.com> To: <KYCHRIST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [KYCHRIST] New cemetery book... > Would like to know what time periods are in the New Cemetery book. My people > were there until about 1830. > > thanks > > Zelma > > > ==== KYCHRIST Mailing List ==== > Christian Co. History & Genealogy > http://www.kyseeker.com/christian > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Would like to know what time periods are in the New Cemetery book. My people were there until about 1830. thanks Zelma

The related families of William John and Mary Elizabeth (Carter) Broaddus; Belfield N. and Sally Ann (Marable) Carter; and Claiborne Dandridge and Althea Anna Elizabeth Turner (Batte) West left descendants in Christian County, Kentucky; and in Stewart, Houston, and Montgomery Counties, Tennessee, which have spread over the entire country. Descendants and cousins of those families are having a reunion at the Radisson Hotel at Opryland in Nashville, Tennessee on Friday and Saturday, August 20-21, 2004. Interested parties can get more details from either George L. Holder, 125 Pitcher Point Avenue, Long Beach, MS 39560, telephone 228-863-3277 or e-mail glholder@cableone.net; or Jack Broaddus, 3628 Carrington Road, Memphis, TN 38111, telephone 901-452-9019, e-mail jbroaddu@midsouth.rr.com.

Oops! I had the wrong price. Please note the correct information below. Sharon Kentucky residents may be interested in attending a series of discussions about Kentucky life in the Great Depression sponsored by the Kentucky Historical Society. The Great Depression started earlier and lasted longer in Kentucky than it did in more urban states. Spend four evenings with noted historians Tracy Campbell and David Hamilton in a series of lively discussions about Kentucky life throughout the 1930s. The four topics to be discussed are: * "Kentucky during the Great Depression." Tracy Campbell begins the series with a detailed look at the impact of the Great Depression on the commonwealth. Thursday, April 8 * "Rural Life and the New Deal." David Hamilton shares how the New Deal affected the lives of rural Kentuckians. Thursday, May 13 * "Franklin Roosevelt in Kentucky." Tracy Campbell returns to discuss the public response to President Roosevelt's visit to Kentucky and his New Deal policy. Thursday, June 10 * "Depression Diversions: 1930s Popular Culture." David Hamilton concludes by exploring books, movies, music, and other aspects of cultural life in the thirties. Thursday, July 8 Background reading materials will be provided and a Depression-era dessert will be served at each session. All sessions begin at 7 p.m. at the Kentucky History Center. The fee is $45 for members of the Kentucky Historical Society or $50 non-KHS members. Preregistration and prepayment are required because attendance is limited. You may register and pay with a credit card by calling Joanie DiMartino at (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467. Kentucky Historical Society Attn: Joanie DiMartino 100 West Broadway Frankfort, KY 40601 (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467 <mailto:joanie.dimartino@ky.gov> joanie.dimartino@ky.gov. <http://history.ky.gov/> http://history.ky.gov <http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm> http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm

Kentucky residents may be interested in attending a series of discussions about Kentucky life in the Great Depression sponsored by the Kentucky Historical Society. The Great Depression started earlier and lasted longer in Kentucky than it did in more urban states. Spend four evenings with noted historians Tracy Campbell and David Hamilton in a series of lively discussions about Kentucky life throughout the 1930s. The four topics to be discussed are: * "Kentucky during the Great Depression." Tracy Campbell begins the series with a detailed look at the impact of the Great Depression on the commonwealth. Thursday, April 8 * "Rural Life and the New Deal." David Hamilton shares how the New Deal affected the lives of rural Kentuckians. Thursday, May 13 * "Franklin Roosevelt in Kentucky." Tracy Campbell returns to discuss the public response to President Roosevelt's visit to Kentucky and his New Deal policy. Thursday, June 10 * "Depression Diversions: 1930s Popular Culture." David Hamilton concludes by exploring books, movies, music, and other aspects of cultural life in the thirties. Thursday, July 8 Background reading materials will be provided and a Depression-era dessert will be served at each session. All sessions begin at 7 p.m. at the Kentucky History Center. The fee is $40 for members of the Kentucky Historical Society or $45 non-KHS members. Preregistration and prepayment are required because attendance is limited. You may register and pay with a credit card by calling Joanie DiMartino at (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467. Kentucky Historical Society Attn: Joanie DiMartino 100 West Broadway Frankfort, KY 40601 (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467 <mailto:joanie.dimartino@ky.gov> joanie.dimartino@ky.gov. <http://history.ky.gov/> http://history.ky.gov <http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm> http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy T R I C E" <nt@vci.net> To: <KYCHRIST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 10:44 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Virginia Harris > This is for those of you who live in Hop-town and were members of the Gen. > Soc. back in the late 70s, and the 80s and remember Virginia Harris [Yvonne > Cameron, Jeannie Lancaster, Jim Killebrew, etc]. She and her husband left > here in the 90s after he retired and returned to Okla. I had a sad call > from her last night... her husband died suddenly and unexpectedly last > week. If anyone remembers Virginia and wants her address to send her a card > let me know. > > Best to all, > nt > > Colonel Nancy Trice > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > Let every nation know,whether it wishes us well or ill, > that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any > hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure > the survival and the success of liberty. - JFK, 1961 > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gilkey Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/mAB.2ACE/2582 Message Board Post: CROFTON Mrs. Bob GILKEY died yesterday morning about three o'clock, of consumption. She leaves a family and a host of friends to mourn her loss. (Source: Earlington Bee, Thur., Sept. 12, 1895)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sizemore, Ratcliff Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/mAB.2ACE/2581.1 Message Board Post: Can anyone tell me if Bryan Ratcliff went by another first name and what connection he had to the Sizemores? Thanks, Linda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ratcliff, Sizemore Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/mAB.2ACE/2581 Message Board Post: CROFTON The sad news reached us this morning that Mr. Bryan RATCLIFF has past from life to death. Mr. RATCLIFF was a good neighbor, a kind father, and a worthy citizen, one that will be greatly missed. The funeral will take place this evening at the SIZEMORE family graveyard, the G.A.B. conducting the funeral services. (Source: Earlington Bee, Thur., Aug. 8, 1895)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McElroy Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/mAB.2ACE/2580 Message Board Post: MANNINGTON Mrs. McELROY, an old widow lady, died at her home near Crofton, last Friday. (Source: Earlington Bee, Thur., July 25, 1895)