Does anyone have access to the Casey Co. 1870 and 1880 census. I need a look up for a Mary Jane Morris Goode. Or if someone has access to the Marion Co. Marriage records I need a copy of a license for James T. Goode and Mary Jane Morris married Oct. 4, 1846. I need to prove her age. Thanks.

Larry, What a wonderful idea! If there is anyone out there who doesn't know how to either make or e-mail a GedCom, I'm sure it would be okay to just ask for instructions, right? Just a little reminder, send these to Larry Witt <photo@som-uky.campus.mci.net> don't just hit reply and send them to the whole list, even tho I would like to have each one.<smiling> Malissa malissar@iquest.net At 02:03 AM 10/14/1998 -0400, you wrote: >Hey Casey Co. friends, >I think that it would be a big help if we could consolidate our efforts by >combining all of our files into one big file. I have about 34 Casey Co. >surnames.

Hi all, This Larry Witt to talk a little more about the new project I have started. It has started very well and I have recieved about 7 gedcoms already. Some have a few thousand persons listed and other have under a hundred. There is no requirement for a set number to participate in this project. Also, if you want to contribute and not recieve a combined copy that will be alright also. I plan to end this project in about a month and then merge all of the gedcoms into one huge file. A few people have expressed a concern that their program will not accomodate a number in excess of 1600. My file contains 19,000 and I have already collected over 5000 more. Of course some of these are duplicates but I intend to leave these duplicates seperate in the file. The reason for this is so that if there are errors, which I'm sure there will be, at least the correct info may be put forth by some other contributor. It sometime is a wise thing to evaluate the total info since a person with alot of info on a given person tends to have researched longer or more in depth. The main purpose of this project is to preserve our history and our ancestors history for future generations. I feel the larger the database the better the chance for finding a lost relative. It also helps to weed out a mistake when several researchers can evaluate similar info. If your family tree program can not hold more than a limited number of persons please contribute what you have anyway so that generations to come can share in your research. I will gladly do a decendent chart for you from the large file and email to anyone with a limited program. Before I send out the large combined file I will announce I have it ready and will ask all persons who have contributed to respond with a confirmation that they want to receive it. I am very excited about the possibilities how this project can help us and other researchers years from now locate someone lost in time.

In a message dated 10/15/98 2:24:01 AM, you wrote: >I think that it would be a big help if we could consolidate our efforts by >combining all of our files into one big file. Good idea, but how can we make that a practical application for as many people as possible? Some genealogy programs can't handle massive files. I wonder if several merged Casey County researchers' files would overload even the really good programs. I don't remember my program limits, but my mother's program can read only about 2,500 names in each file. That's why I split our databases into two files: one for Casey County (dad's side of family) and one for her side of the family. My Casey County file has about 1,700 names: mainly Goode and Wethington but lots of affiliated lines such as Montgomery, Carrico, Clements, Wheatley, Speaks. I'm trying to design a genealogy web site and having fits trying to decide how best to present my research. Eventually I will do this. Also do you have a way to mark what researcher did which part of the file? That way people can contact someone if they want more information and the individual researchers all get the credit that is due. Or should we put our name and address in the notes field of each of our people? Don't have time to edit down my file this week, but next week I have a few days off and may be able to work on your request. Paula Wethington Rose

Hi Everyone! Last week I got into a conversation on the Virginia Roots list about the circuit-riding preacher, Lorenzo Dow. Lots of us have a Lorenzo Dow 'Somebody' in our data. Since I have a lot of information about the 'original' Lorenzo Dow, they asked if I would post a web page about him. He was born in 1777 in Coventry, CT. Well, I ran home from work and put up the Lorenzo Dow page after supper! I hope you find it interesting. He was something! I can just see him jumping out of a church window onto a horse and riding away shouting that he would be back one year from the day! He did, too! The site is: http://www.acun.com/dentons The link to the article about Lorenzo Dow is about half way down the first page. I hope you enjoy the stories! Blessings! Sue Montgomery-Cook

Sorry that I keep forgetting things but if you have a huge gedcom (over a meg) you can zip it with pkzip and it will transmit faster.

Hi Everybody, I have already started receiving gedcoms so this idea is going to work. Please make sure that you send the gedcomn to me at photo@som-uky.campus.mci.net and not to the Casey Co. list. Do not send attachments to the list. I plan on merging al of the files into one and then returning them to the participants.

Hey Casey Co. friends, I think that it would be a big help if we could consolidate our efforts by combining all of our files into one big file. I have about 34 Casey Co. surnames. Some names are Witt(obviously) Thompson, Bell, Allen, Mills,Henson, Hansford, Terpin, Branson, Christerson, James, Greene,Mayo,Isbell,Evans,Pemberton,Chilton, Sphar,Kent,Austin,Lloyd,Fair,Joslin,McWhorter,Hight, Morgan,Durham, Coleman,Douglas, Williams, Perkins, Taylor, Bastin, Reed, All of the above names are people in my direct ancestery from Casey Co. If you will send an email with your gedcom attached to it I will combine yours with mine and also all of the others and return it to you in about 3-4 weeks. Also, I would like to see if we can set up 4 computers at the Apple Festival next year to collect living family histories. Some people, such as my dad who was born 4-9-1921 knows alot about people who lived in the last quarter of the 19th century. If we worked with the library maybe it would be possible to get a public service booth. We would need several volunteers to run the computers and and merge the files periodically so that they all stayed current as we collected new info. To send me your gedcom first save you family file in your computer as a gedcom and then send me an email but remember to attach the gedcom before you send it.

Larry, Thanks so much for recording the info on the Allen Cemetary. I had one listing, HENSON, James Strange, 1811-1898 in my database. He is the son of Joseph Henson and Jemima Evans, husband of Malinda B. Mills and brother of Nancy Henson who married James Vest. I have been trying for years to place James Vest and this Henson family as no marriage record has been found. This helps confirm that they did exist! Could you please let me know which graves were next to his and if you might have any knowledge of this family? Thanks, Tom Land -- Tom Land gtrl@esper.com When you shake the family tree wondrous stories pour forth! (Also some fruits & nuts!!) Searching SINGLETON, LENOIR, CHISM & VEST everywhere! Always pleased with new info, always willing to share. List Owner of the SINGLETON and VEST e-mail research groups. Join from my Genealogy page linked from my Family Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/8081/ Visit: The RootsWeb homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/ Official SINGLETON page: http://astrodawg.com/gen/singleton/

by Donna Carman Editor One of the states's oldest churches marked it's 200th anniversary with a celebration Saturday and Sunday. South Fork Separate Baptist Church,located on South Fork Church Road in southern Casey County marked 200 years of continious service this weekend. "Two hundred years ago some strong people came to this part of the country and said ' We're going to worship here in freedom."Now we carry on that tradition" said Deacon Mike Simpson during a Sunday afternoon service. The church originated in 1798 and is in its fourth building. The first building was a small log structure that sat across from the present building where the cemetery is now located. It contained a balcony where African-Americans gathered to worship. "This is said to be one of the oldest churches in Kentucky that's never closed its doors or ceased to have regular services," said Graig Lawhorn,also a deacon at South Fork. Lawhorn said some descendants of one of the church's first families had record books dating back to 1798. He and his wife, Carol,used to visit the late Effie Riggons, who had some of the church record books stored in her attic. "We'd go up there and get the books and read them to her,"he said."There are stories in there about how people used to bring chickens,eggs or whatever they had to pay the pastor. Sometimes the offering would only be seven cents or fifteen cents." Lawhorn said some of the old record books had been missing for awhile. However, the church was presented with one of the old record books, which dated back to 1835, on Sunday. Lawhorn,48,grew up about a mile and a half from the church. It was the center of activity then for the community. "On Decoration Day [fourth Sunday in May] you could see cars lined up on all three roads.[The roads intersect near where the church sits.] There was no way you could get everyone in the house. Those that couldn't would stand outside and talk." he said. Lawhorn said he can also remember riding to church in a horse and wagon. The weekend's events got under way Saturday night with a shape note singing. About 175 attended, including a group from Tennessee that comes every year,Lawhorn said.When the service ended about 10:30 p.m., Lawhorn said about 12 of the group went to the Lawhorn's place of business on Bryant Ridge and stayed up talking and singing some more until 2:30 a.m. The shape note singing continued Sunday morning,with dinner following. A church history and recog- nition program was held in the afternoon.Several members of the congregation dressed in old-fashioned attire. Plaques were presented to former pastors attendiing,as well as family members of those deceased. Those attending were Amos Emerson, pastor from 1956-58;C.D. Goodin,1980-81;David Coffey,1981-84;Junior Lee Holmes,1984-85;Ritchie Curtis,1985-93;and present pastor,Bobby Bryant,who began pastoring South Fork in 1995. Other former pastors since 1920 include J.P. Campbell,1920-34 and 1939-40; Joe Peavey, 1934-39; Otha Lee Popplewell,1940-42 and 1945-46; O.C. Reece, 1942-45 and 1946-54; Roosevelt Brown.1961-70; and A.G. Smith, 1979-80. All are deceased. Those who are still living, but unable to attend,were Coy Putteet,1958-61; Vernon Blakey,1970-78; and Garry Johnson,1993-95. Without these people the doors could not have stayed opened or made a change in the lives of a lot of people ," Lawhorn said. A more detailed history of Soth Fork Separate Baptist Church, and some records found in old minutes books, can be found on page 10. South Fork Separate Baptist Church After the end of the American Revolutionary War, a steady flow of settlers,ex-war veterans,and Baptists began to move into the Kentucky Territory of Virginia.While there has always been considerable dispute concerning when the "first" church was established in Kentucky,it has been widely accepted that the major thrust of Sepatate Baptist movement occurred during this time. In 1785 these Baptist associations were organized- the Elkhorn Association,which was comprised of all Regular Baptist churches north of the Elkhorn and the Dix rivers;the Salem Association,comprised of Regular Baptist churches south of the Elkhorn and Dix rivers;and the South Kentucky Association , which was comprised of all Separate Baptist churches in the Kentucky territory. Although oral tradition places the formation of South Fork Separate Baptist Church somewhere in the late 1780's or 1790's,the minutes of the South Kentucky Association of Separate Baptist churches does not give a listing of the member churches until 1809. South Fork Church is first mentioned in the 1809 directory of churches in attendance at the associational meeting. An excerpt of the minutes reads as follows: "Delegates:Richard Shackleford,Zachariah Schackleford,William Burkes, and John Jones,Jr. John Jones Jr was the clerk for this meeting." Still, it is possible that South Fork Church could have formed at a much earlier date that stated in the association directory and may have had to delay its membership in the South Kentucky Association.For example,the reader must keep in mind that the American Revolution had just ended and the Indians were still very much a problem on the Kentucky frontier. Moreover,an entry in the South Kentucky Association minutes provides some support for this theory: "[Shawney Run Meeting house on the second Friday in October,1795]: The Asson appointed Brethern James Rogers,Joseph Milborn,Mathew Rogers and Barnet Sowell and such as the may call to answer of the church on the Green River." A passage in the associational minutes of the meeting conducted at Jessamine meeting house oin October 1796 refers to the matter again: "Section 5th- The committee thinks the helps appointed to attend the call of the church on Green River ought to make report.That the matter was to be reconciled." However,there was no reference to this matter in the association minutes of the annual meeting in 1797.Instead,the next annual meeting was established to be held on the second Friday of October,1798 at the meeting house on Salt River called Harlands.The mystery of the origins of South Fork Church deepens because pages 20-29 of the South Kentucky Association meeting book are blank. The next entry in the association minutes is found on page 30 and refers to a meeting held at McCormicks Meeting House on Saturday,Oct.27,1803; "A petition from a body of Baptist on Green River for constitution,Brethern McGraw and Miller to answer that call." Could this entry still be refering to the same Baptist church mentioned earlier ?Wy was there a four-year laspe in time from 1797-1803? The answer to these questions may never be truly known since the minutes of South Fork Separate Baptist covering the period of its origins until 1917 were lost about 1980. One explanation for the time period relates to the union between the Regular and Separate Baptist churches in the United States which was effected about 1800 and lasted until 1803. Ironically,the split in the union between the two organizations was relateed to the name "separate." According to the Associational minutes,Sotuh Fork Church membership grew from 42 in 1809 to 170 members in 1883. Church membership in 1995 [at the time of this writing] is about 45.While lack of adequate space does not permit a detailed explaination for the rise and fall of church membership,the church was the center of society in America until about the 1900's when it was replaced with other forms of social entertainment.Also,there were six schims which caused division and separation within most churches and associations from 1799 until 1883. South Fork Sepatate Baptist Church is still active.The church members are conservative and devout in their beliefs and religious practices. They have a proud heritage that should be recorded for the benefit of future generations within and outside of the Separate Baptist Church. copied from Churches of Casey County page 10 Casey County News, Wed., Oct 7 1998

Here is a list of hose buried in Allen Cem off south 127 in Liberty, Ky. Allen Cemetery Recorded by Riley Allen, Jr. Located on R. H. Allen, Sr. Farm six miles south of Liberty on U.S. Highway 127. ALLEN, Allie W., 1902-1902 (D. of J. & L) Elizabeth Jane, 1874-1899 J. T., 1845-1913 James S., 1869-1907 Lela F., 1911-1913 (D. of G. & M.) Lethea E., 1898-1901 (D. of J. & L.) Lola Chilton, -1945 Lollie M., 1876- Mary L., 1879-1879 (D. of J. & M.) Mary L., 1879-1879 (D. of J. & M.) May C., 1849-1901 (W. of J.T.) Minty Clo, 1890-1891 (D. of R. & N.) BELL, S. M. (Co. A, 1st Ky. Cav., Civil War) CABELL, C. W. (Co. A, 1st Ky. Cav., Civil War) HENSON, James Strange, 1811-1898 HOSKINS Belton, 1893-1907 (S. of J. & P.) Charley, 1915-1915 Mildred, 192 1-1928 WITT James S., 1917-1918 Lela M., 1923-1923 Mary E., 1930-1930 About 20 unmarked graves.

Ellwyn, Find where HWY 70 crosses into Pulaski County. Follow the county line border down toward Mintonville (HWY 1676). Half way between is Rock Lick Road paralleling Rock Lick Creek. It is a right turn at Bethelridge off HWY 70 while traveling towards Science Hill from Liberty. John Carter -----Original Message----- From: ELLWYN WORLEY [SMTP:elworley@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Sunday, October 04, 1998 5:32 PM To: KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCASEY-L] Rock Lick Branch There is a deed in Casey County showing a tract of land on Rock Lick Branch and on the Somerset road. I don't find it in the topographic map of Casey County. Can anyone please tell me where it is located. Ellwyn L Worley ELWorley@Worldnet.att.net ==== KYCASEY Mailing List ==== Are you a member of the Bicentennial Heritage Corporation? Send in your dues for 1998 now.

There is a deed in Casey County showing a tract of land on Rock Lick Branch and on the Somerset road. I don't find it in the topographic map of Casey County. Can anyone please tell me where it is located. Ellwyn L Worley ELWorley@Worldnet.att.net

Does anyone have information on an almshouse that was in Casey County (I believe in Liberty) in the 1930's? Are there records of the people who lived there? History? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Vicky

I believe I have found the marriage record of my grandfather John Brewer listed as John G. Brower m Sarah Minor 1853. I am desperately trying to find out who John's father was. Does anyone know what kind of information would be found on a Casey Co marriage record from 1853? I would hate to make a trip to Liberty and only find out the name of the witness. Thanks, Steve Brewer

I am trying to find out any infomation available on the family of John G. Brewer b. 1814 who lived in the Little South Fork area of Casey Co near the Boyle/Marion county borders until he died sometime after 1880. His children lived in this area until the early 1900's. He was married to Jane Hughes when he first arrived in 1843 and later married Sarah Minor in 1853. His children were Martha A. Brewer b. 1844, Harvey Brewer b. 1846, John Brewer b. 1850, Jane S. Brewer b. 1854, Bernetta (Burtha) Brewer b. 1855, Emma (Emily) Brewer b. 1856, Ellen M. Brewer b. 1860, Nancy W. Brewer b. 1861, David M. Brewer b. 1865, William Brewer b. 1869, George L. Brewer b. 1869, Smith Brewer b. 1871 and James C. Brewer b. 1875. Any information anyone may have on my family would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Steve Brewer

RE>KYCASEY-D Digest V98 #123 10/02/98 List Coordinator, please remove me from this digest. I have tried to unsubscribe several times, but have been told that I'm not on the list. However, I continue to get mailings. Thanks.

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No, I don't have a copy of the pension application. To tell you the truth, I didn't even think to look yet, but I will. Please check an older census, maybe 1850. Thanks for your time and attention. Lynne