Jim, Don't know if I've been in touch with you before but would like to see if our Wilson and Smith lines connect. emai me privately please. bdeng7397@aol.com

I'm looking for info on my gg grandfather John B Henson. I've been able to get dates and pension info, but his life after the Civil War is where I'm researching right now. The family story is that he became a traveling veterinarian & an herb doctor, riding his horse around the countryside. He didn't have a license and was "run out of town" then moved away and married a woman whose name nobody knows. What I'm really trying to find out is if anyone knows where I can read about the medicine practice laws of the late 1800s. Thanks Cindy

Thank you for the info. I haven't found any siblings or parents for him yet but this is aboutht he right time frame. I'll check it. Cindy At 07:40 PM 3/28/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hello, > >I have a James Shackleford born about 1772 to Zachariah Shackleford Sr. and >Dolly Embree. One of James brothers, Zachariah Jr. , married Francis Ross in >Casey Co in 1809 who was a descendant of my Burks line. > >Denell Burks >

Dear BIll Thank you so much for the suggestions. I hadn't even thought of the patent office. I'll probably be going to the library in a week or so. There is a lot of construction going on there right now and parking is a nightmare. I'll be glad to look up Allens for you. Thanks again for the suggestion. Cindy > >Bill and Loydean Allen > >end > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cindy Pulford <cpulford@aros.net> >To: KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com <KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 6:47 PM >Subject: Re: [KYCASEY-L] War of 1812 > > >>I''ve had a hard time with War of 1812 records too but I found a book at >the >>Library called SOLDIERS OF THE WAR OF 1812 ... >

I am researching the SLUDER and FRANCIS family connection brother and sister married brother and sister John B. Sluder married Mary Margaret Francis and his sister Amanda married her brother John B. Francis. Am looking for any more references to the ancestors and decedents of these individuals. Thanks for any help you can give me. In addition to Casey Co. there is also an Adair Co. connection. Other family names connected to these are HELM, HATFIELD, PINYON and varied spellings, TALLY.

In a message dated 4/4/1999 9:57:47 AM, cpulford@aros.net writes: >What I'm really trying to find out is if >anyone knows where I can read about the medicine practice laws of the late >1800s. From what I can tell, the medical laws were set up on a state by state basis. I found a book at Lima Public Library in Lima, Ohio, that was specific to the history of the town doctors of that area. My mother's ancestors (NOT the Wethington bunch, that's dad's family) include a country doctor from NW Ohio. In the late 1800s, Ohio started requiring medical doctors to get training from accredeted medical schools and also be licensed by the state. My ancestor graduated in 1880 from Miami Medical College in Cincinatti and met all the requirements for being officially listed on the medical society rosters. The book doesn't have anything specific to Kentucky, but maybe this story provides a clue what to look for. Paula Wethington Rose

<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/cwontheweb/combest.htm">Click here: COMBEST, CARSON, CUNDIFF, BELL, SLOAN </A> http://members.aol.com/cwontheweb/combest.htm This is a circa 1900 photo of a family group in Casey County involving surnames COMBEST, CARSON, CUNDIFF, BELL, SLOAN. This photo came from the collections of Gertrude Cundiff Carigan, who was the daughter of one, sister of another and niece or cousin of most of the people in the picture. Here is my interpretation of the identifying notes she made on the front and back: Men L-R, Franklin Pierce Combest, Liberty Madison "Boss" Combest, Erasmus G. "Rass" Combest, W. C. "Bud" Cundiff, Bob Carson Women L-R, Sarah Bell Combest (wife of Erasmus), Ann Sloan Combest (mother of Combest men), Mrs F. P. Combest (Permelia Carson, 1st or Virginia Burk, 2nd), Mattie Cundiff Combest (wife of Liberty), Ida Cundiff Carson (wife of Bob) Children L-R, Marion Combest (son of Erasmus), Della Combest (daughter of F. P.), unid. girl (may be Emma or Pauline Combest), unid. boy (may be Leslie or Aubra Combest), Herbert Cundiff (son of W. C.) I am the great-grandson of W. C. Cundiff.  I would appreciate hearing from anyone on the list who can fill in more about the people in this photo. Best Regards, Jim Carigan Frankfort KY USA email: jimmonomoy@aol.com, jimmonomoy@hotmail.com WWW home: http://users.aol.com/JimMonomoy/private/JimMonom.htm Lighthouses: http://users.aol.com/JimMonomoy/private/jimmomoy.htm The Lighthouse Hunter's Guide: http://users.aol.com/uslhswww/lhindex.htm Infrastructure: http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Trails/1943 Genealogy: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/James-M-Carigan/ Ryan Clan US: http://www.ryans.org Researching CARIGAN / CUNDIFF / BELL / ALLEN / RICH / COMBEST / HUTCHISON / GHOLSON / LANGSTON / CARRIGAN / WILSON / DAVENPORT / PREWIT / COX / MUNCY / MOORE / SMITH / LONG / FITZPATRICK / THÈRIAULT / RYAN / CABOT / CASEY CO-KY / WAYNE CO-KY / WHITLEY CO-KY / CLERMONT CO-OH / Massachusetts and New Brunswick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --

<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/cwontheweb/bb1931.jpg">Click here: http://members.aol.com/cwontheweb/bb1931.jpg </A> http://members.aol.com/cwontheweb/bb1931.jpg Check the above web address to see this 1931 photo of the Casey County 8th grade boys basketball team. In the September 12, 1968 edition of the Casey County News, this picture appeared with the following caption: "Way back yonder in 1931 Liberty had a pretty good 8th grade basketball team which was duly photographed for posterity. Posterity has arrived. Presented here from the left are: Paul Wesley, Coy Zachary, Dan Rich, Louis Combest, Aubrey Wesley, Bud Carigan. Paul Wesley is part owner of Wesley Drug Store in Liberty; Coy Zachary is a district soil conservation public relations man in Mississippi; Dan Rich owns Hopkins Drug Store at Carlisle; Louis Combest is an attorney working for the City of Toledo, Ohio; Aubrey Wesley is county health officer in Casey; and Bud Carigan is Col. Bud Carigan, retired, and for the last two years instructor of English at the University of Utah after having estabished a name for himself as a writer while still in service. All of which would not be bad for any quintet of 8th graders in anybody's class." This news clip came from the collections of Gertrude Cundiff Carigan, who was the mother of Col. William E. "Bud" Carigan, Jr. I am the nephew of Bud. I would appreciate hearing from anyone on the list who can fill in more about the young men in this photo. BTW, there is an error; Professor Carigan taught at Utah State in Logan, UT, not the U. of Utah. His second novel, Staves for Louisville, published after this news item, was a historical work set in Casey County in the Depression years. Best Regards, Jim Carigan Frankfort KY USA email: jimmonomoy@aol.com, jimmonomoy@hotmail.com WWW home: http://users.aol.com/JimMonomoy/private/JimMonom.htm Lighthouses: http://users.aol.com/JimMonomoy/private/jimmomoy.htm The Lighthouse Hunter's Guide: http://users.aol.com/uslhswww/lhindex.htm Infrastructure: http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Trails/1943 Genealogy: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/James-M-Carigan/ Ryan Clan US: http://www.ryans.org Researching CARIGAN / CUNDIFF / BELL / ALLEN / RICH / COMBEST / HUTCHISON / GHOLSON / LANGSTON / CARRIGAN / WILSON / DAVENPORT / SMITH / FITZPATRICK / THÈRIAULT / RYAN /

Hi List Members; It was kindly pointed out to me that some of the people who belong to genealogy lists may not be familiar with ICQ. ICQ is FREE LIVE TALK Live talk means I can instantly message you and visa versa. Also we can chat one on one, or allow others to chat with us. The screen breaks apart into windows for each member in the chat . As the member types their words are displayed for all to see. ICQ is a free chat service, which is downloadable. That means that you go to a World Wide Web site and go through a few questions and screens until you come to one that says "download now". At that point the program begins to download. This is always a slow process. It took me about 20 minutes to do the upgrade, after I was already running the old version. Plus something interrupted it once and I had to start all over. (I always try to do it fresh, when I go into the internet). The Site can be found at http://www.icq.com/ or email me and I will send you an invitation to join Once the program is downloaded it has to be installed. I believe this one just begins the installation process for you. Some you have to click on to get them to install. I always download (it will ask you where to download) to C:/Windows/Desktop . That way It Appears On the Desktop, in an Icon so I don't have to go searching for it. From there you just double click to install. At any rate, once the program is installed (on my computer this usually takes less than a minute), you have to fill in a registration. This is the only thing I warn people about. I think there is a long disclaimer now that comes with ICQ. Don't worry, we all know that email is one of the least secure of all communication devises. ICQ is no worse. I put a FIRST NAME, a STATE, and on my chatroom I put my email#, but don't do this if you think people will send things you don't want to get. I don't mind letting people know what city I am in because my phone # is unlisted. Always has been. I may add AN INTEREST OR TWO, and then I check the box that says DO NOT ALLOW OTHER USERS TO SEE MY ONLINE PRESENCE...AND.... make sure the setting is on so that ALL MUST GET AUTHORIZATION TO ADD ME These two controls will make sure others who may be looking for the vulnerable, aren't able to add you and always be able to see you online, without your knowing it. Now the really nice thing about ICQ is that these securities are always changeable by you, and that you can password them so no one else is able to change them. Also, if you find that you blew it and suspect someone may have information on you because you didn't set something right, you can change your ICQ # without having to reinstall it. Also, there are many ways to go on ICQ. You can even go online invisible, and just be visible to those you want to see you. But remember everyone plays by the same rules. If you find you allow someone on and later want to DELETE THE USER, first set their attribute in the ALERT/ACCEPT mode to INVISIBLE. This way they won't ever again know you are there. I have been on ICQ for nearly a year now, and am most satisfied with it. We talk to close relatives who live in New Jersey, and New York, and further South than us in San Diego. Some are our kids. We talk to folks in Northern California, overseas, all over the place with LIVE TALK. For ESTABLISHED ICQ USERS: Please DOWNLOAD VER99A if you haven't already. A Note on Security: When I first got the Internet, I wanted to know what I was in for. As I learned by reading the news articles on my home page, anyone can be reading what you submit, just as any good hacker can get in and look around your computer if you are online. So, we all know, that the safest way to talk on email or ICQ is to not say anything that you wouldn't want published in the newspaper the next day. Or as my brother used to say, "look at it as ham radio". Hope this answers a few questions. But as always, please feel free to address this issue on list or over email directly with me. Christen Rosamilia Chatroom Master of Genealogy Chatroom ICQ# 35092530

How do you do this? Bob -----Original Message----- From: Christen Rosamilia <rosamilia@earthlink.net> To: KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com <KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 5:13 PM Subject: [KYCASEY-L] Sea to Sea on ICQ >Sea to Sea Chat on ICQ will be held on >Saturday >9 am PST >10 am Central >11 am Easter >5 pm in England > >on >ICQ #35092530 >Genealogy Chatroom > >Please Come join the chat and bring a friend >Invite someone you chat with overseas too! > >CRosamilia > > > >

Sea to Sea Chat on ICQ will be held on Saturday 9 am PST 10 am Central 11 am Easter 5 pm in England on ICQ #35092530 Genealogy Chatroom Please Come join the chat and bring a friend Invite someone you chat with overseas too! CRosamilia

Hey all: I have a question about cemeteries for y'all. My cousins (that I just met on my trip to Casey county :-) ) tell me that they think my gggfather George Turpin might be buried in Luttrell Cemetery on Merritt Ridge. I can't find a listing for him, but they said he was buried without a headstone, just a field rock. My question is, is there someone/someplace that would have records of who is buried there? How does one go about getting a plot in a cemetery like this? Is it a private cemetery? I realize that is more than one question, sorry :-) I am just curious about how these little old cemeteries operate, whether they are individually maintained and things like that. Thanks for any ideas you might have. Robert Turpin

Hi, Due to a request from Pat Brooks I have opened up a place to post biogrphies. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/CaseyBios Anyone may and all are encouraged to post biographies of any person with a Casey County connection. This page works just like the query page, but please do not post queries on the bios page. Any queries posted on the bios page will be deleted. Bill listowner

Hi all: I just got back from a visit to Casey County this weekend, to visit the library and to meet some of my "cousins" :) I just thought I would share this wonderful experience with you all! I was absolutely amazed with the Library, and it's resources! It did not have the particular piece of info I was looking for, but it was a veritable treasure trove for the rest of my line. I found about 2 dozen new relatives, and so many dates and verified a lot of the info I already had. It was great. Also, and perhaps the highlight of the trip, was to meet Gladys Cotham Thomas. I don't know if she subscribes to this list, but if she does, or if anyone out there talks to her personally, PLEASE convey my most heartfelt thanks! She met with me at the library, and she was such a sweet,kind, helping soul, I knew that I would remember every word she uttered. She was full of good advice, tips, and just general info on Casey County, I felt I could have talked to her all day. I'm sure you all know who she is, or at least of her work, so I won't belabor the point any longer, but I am bubbling from my trip, and felt I had to say Thank you! Anyway, I am now loaded for bear. I will most assuredly have new questions for y'all, and new info forthcoming. Thanks for letting me share this experience with you all ( or at least putting up with me as I shared it :-) ) Robert Turpin

RE: Genealogy Chat on ICQ I started a chat room on ICQ, for genealogical work, and it can be accessed by anyone with ICQ by entering the user #, 35092530. If you want to download the ICQ chat program, it is free, and very secure, so far as this type of media goes. I've been using it for almost a year now, and found it to be very rewarding. This room was just opened tonight. You add the number to your list of numbers, and when I am there, it will appear to be online. You may then join the chat. Please join us soon! Christen A. Rosamilia

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Hi Cindy, A book we have, "First Court Records of Casey County, Kentucky" by Gladys Cotham Thomas, indicates that a John Shackelford, listed on page 170, was elected as a state representative. There could be a short biography about him in the Kentucky state archives. Also, you might write the Filson Club in Louisville or the historian of the Kentucky state legislature about him. If he invented a rifle he may have filed a patent application with the U. S. Patent office in Washington, D. C. And as you may know, the Casey County Public Library lists a Shackelford family in their collection of family files. By the way, do you know of someone who could check the War of 1812 book you mentioned for any ALLENs? Good luck. Yours truly, Bill and Loydean Allen end -----Original Message----- From: Cindy Pulford <cpulford@aros.net> To: KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com <KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [KYCASEY-L] War of 1812 >I''ve had a hard time with War of 1812 records too but I found a book at the >Library called SOLDIERS OF THE WAR OF 1812 ...

Hello, I have a James Shackleford born about 1772 to Zachariah Shackleford Sr. and Dolly Embree. One of James brothers, Zachariah Jr. , married Francis Ross in Casey Co in 1809 who was a descendant of my Burks line. Denell Burks