Charlene, I'm not a registered land surveyor, but I've had to run property descriptions back a few times, so I've walked that rocky road several times. I can't tell for certain without reading the document. But I believe you're going to have to find where Jesse Crutcher, Jesse Riches and Wesley Davis lived during that time period. You may be lucky and find them on an old plat book. but if you don't have any experience in surveying and legal land descriptions, I recommend checking with a few title companys in Casey County. Chances are that they might be familiar with the names and can give you a good answer for a nominal fee. I doubt that you want to pay for a complete title search just to satisfy your curiosity. The title company's are used to this of search and quite often have private papers and information that the Courthouse doesn't have. Dick Scotti

I read Patrick's e-mail on land patents and grants with interest. On a trip earlier this month to Casey county, I discovered a book called Surveyors Record. Although a search of deed books had come up with nothing on my great-great grandmother Julia Chasteen or her father Jesse Crutcher, there was a record of two surveys for Julia in this book. In 1871, Wm. Smith, "DSCC" (deputy surveyor Casey County?), for J.B. Carson, SCC, surveyed "for Julia Chasteen, assignee of Jesse Crutcher, who was assignee of Christopher R. Coffey, 40 acres of land by virtue of part of an entry made at the Surveyors office of Casey County on the 26th day of December 1870 on part of a Casey County court land warrant which (was) issued at the July term 1863 for 106 acres situated in Casey County on the ridge between Woodsfork and Green River..." At the library, I found on microfilm a court order from the July term 1863, "C.R. Coffey having paid to the court ten dollars and thirty cents for which the court awards to said Coffey a land warrant for two hundred and six acres which the surveyor of Casey County is ordered to survey to said Coffey out of any unappropriated lands in this county." In this case, at least on paper, it appears the court granted Mr. Coffey land which had not yet been surveyed. Since I didn't see any other entries for Coffey that month, I assume the 106 instead of 206 acres was an clerical error. My real question: Does anybody know or have any idea how I would find out where specifically this land was? The survey talks about hickory trees and poplars and mentions the 40 acres bordering on Jesse Crutchers' line, Jesse Riches' line, and Wesley Davis' corner. I spoke with one of the ladies at the clerk's office and she had no idea how to proceed. Anybody with any ideas?

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------852848373D5D4C72B242B7DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm forwarding letter from fellow geneologist. Does anyone know about the Moore's of Casey County? Nancy Moore --------------852848373D5D4C72B242B7DF Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from onondaga.gate.net (onondaga.gate.net [198.206.134.31]) by olive2.misslink.net (NTMail 3.03.0017/1.abef) with ESMTP id moore for <moore@misslink.net>; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:58:31 -0500 Received: from wite (tsdfb2-201.gate.net [199.227.116.201]) by onondaga.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA165360 for <moore@misslink.net>; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:46:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199905141346.JAA165360@onondaga.gate.net> Reply-To: <wite@icanect.net> From: "laureen johnson" <wite@gate.net> To: <moore@misslink.net> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:00:09 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi- It's me. Do you know anything about the city of Moore, Moore Branch, or Moore Cemetery in Casey Co. It is listed int the GNIS. I wonder how I can get info on these places? I am trying to type with an ergomatic keyboard. It is a challenge. Laureen wite@icanect.net --------------852848373D5D4C72B242B7DF--

Sent a personal message to whole list. Apologize for that list members. However if any of you have information on the names mentioned would love to hear from you Barbee Barbee Hodgkins bhodgkin@OregonVOS.net

Shirley, I haven't forgotten you. Have had trouble making new computers talk to old and also to a printer. Finally solved the problems and am working at catching up on correspondence. Will get back to you about Rice's and Phillips. My Rice's were in Adair and Taylor Counties, moved to Illinois and then to Oregon in 1862. John Stamper Rice was the son of Joseph Randolph Rice and Abigail Waller. Joseph was the son of Randolph Rice and Sally Puryear. Randolph was a revolutionary soldier and had a slew of children who I have not followed. If you are interested I can send you a family group sheet. Another name you mention is Guthrie. Guthrie's were in Missouri with my Phillips family but I haven't found a connection to them yet. My connection is thru my grandmother Wright's family Polk. There was an Adam Guthrie Polk who lived in Indiana but died at The Dalles OR when he drowned trying to get to the Willamette Valley in 1840 something. An Adam Guthrie married a Hannah Polk in KY but how they are connected to my Grandmother's Uncle I don't know. Will send you via snail mail a copy of my extract from Charles Phillips will. I found it in the Adair County Library in Columbia, KY. Always Barbee Barbee Hodgkins bhodgkin@OregonVOS.net

Hello Bertha, No, I'm afraid that he is too young. My David was born in 1824 in Pendleton District, SC. Somehow he got to Meigs Co., TN and married Cassander Bridwell/Breedwell. Then he showed up in Rollings, KY, where is said to have died and is buried. After he died Cassander moved back to Rhea, Co., Tn and married a man named AJ Pritchett. Is there really a Rollings, KY? Thanks, Barbara

Hello, I'm trying to find the parents of David Roland Jones. He died in Rollings, Casey Co., KY 20 Aug 1863. Can anyone tell me where Rollings, KY is? I have tried to find his death certificate in Casey Co., KY, but they tell me it cannot be found. Does anyone have access to the 1860 Census of Casey Co., KY? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Barbara L (Jones) Richardson

In a message dated 05/13/1999 6:28:19 PM Central Daylight Time, PatAnder73@aol.com writes: > Land on the Tax records was Thank you for the explanation. Jacque

Cindy, Land on the Tax records was 1) first surveyed before a land patent or grant was given. THis was one of the requirements for being granted land. you had to pay the surveyor to make a survey and register it with the state land office. who ever paid for the survey is listed in the survey category. 2) then when a land patent/grant was issued (meaning the requirement of settlement and development was met) whoever got the grant was the person in whose name the land was entered 3) then the person chargeable is the person who owns it now and owes the tax. +++++++++++++++++++++++++ if the three are different there is a story there. rare is the person surveyed different from the person entered since the two occur very close together maybe only a year or two apart. (but I have a case in NC where the wife paid for the survey before she married and then the husband got the patent after they married) But the person chargeable is the current owner and the land may have changed hands sevearl times from the original patent holder (the person entered) I advise that your can use the names as a clue. For instance if the person entered and chargeable difer then you can go to the county deed records and look for a deed from the original patent holder to the current owner. perhaps the deed will have family data or state some useful relationship between the two of interest in your genealogy work. Patrick

Bettie, Thank you so much. Do you know why it would have been entered & surveyed in one name but another name chargable? This is my first experience with tax records and I'm full of questions. Thanks for your help. Cindy At 07:11 AM 5/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >Here are the categories (left to right) according to a form that I purchased >at Kentucky Historical Society. > >Date of Receiving Lists from Individuals, Person's Name Chargeable with the >Tax, Regiment No., Company, Rate (will be either 1, 2, 3 on the tax list), >Acres, County in Which Land Lies, Watercourse on Which Land Lies, In Whose >Name Entered, In whose Name Surveyed, Patented, Male Whites above 21, M. >Whites Above 16, Blacks Above 16, Total Blacks, Horses, Cattle, Hogs, >Children. > >Bettie > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cindy Pulford <cpulford@aros.net> >To: KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com <KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 11:54 PM >Subject: [KYCASEY-L] tax lists > > >>Hi everyone >> Did some checking of Casey Cty tax lists at the library today. Does anyone >>know what the headings are for the information? I was reading them from >>Microfilm and I just couldn't make out most of them except county. Another >>question I have about the tax lists is why the same people and properties >>aren't listed every year. I would have thought there would be some >>consistency there - that property would be appraised and taxed every tax >>year, but it doesn't look like that is the case. Thanks for your help. >>Cindy Pulford >> >> >>==== KYCASEY Mailing List ==== >>To send a message to the list, Send your message to >>KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com >> >> >

Here are the categories (left to right) according to a form that I purchased at Kentucky Historical Society. Date of Receiving Lists from Individuals, Person's Name Chargeable with the Tax, Regiment No., Company, Rate (will be either 1, 2, 3 on the tax list), Acres, County in Which Land Lies, Watercourse on Which Land Lies, In Whose Name Entered, In whose Name Surveyed, Patented, Male Whites above 21, M. Whites Above 16, Blacks Above 16, Total Blacks, Horses, Cattle, Hogs, Children. Bettie -----Original Message----- From: Cindy Pulford <cpulford@aros.net> To: KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com <KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 11:54 PM Subject: [KYCASEY-L] tax lists >Hi everyone > Did some checking of Casey Cty tax lists at the library today. Does anyone >know what the headings are for the information? I was reading them from >Microfilm and I just couldn't make out most of them except county. Another >question I have about the tax lists is why the same people and properties >aren't listed every year. I would have thought there would be some >consistency there - that property would be appraised and taxed every tax >year, but it doesn't look like that is the case. Thanks for your help. >Cindy Pulford > > >==== KYCASEY Mailing List ==== >To send a message to the list, Send your message to >KYCASEY-L@rootsweb.com > >

Hi everyone Did some checking of Casey Cty tax lists at the library today. Does anyone know what the headings are for the information? I was reading them from Microfilm and I just couldn't make out most of them except county. Another question I have about the tax lists is why the same people and properties aren't listed every year. I would have thought there would be some consistency there - that property would be appraised and taxed every tax year, but it doesn't look like that is the case. Thanks for your help. Cindy Pulford

Hi can anyone tell me what years Hooker Bill Atwood was sheriff in Casey County. My Grandfather was suppose to be a deputy or sheriff at the same time as Hooker Bill Atwood. Thank You Roberta

Would anyone have anything on Vardamon Anderson, and where he went from Pulaski Co., Ky after 1810. Possible he was Father of Jonathan Anderson b. about 1800, m.1823 Pulaski Co., Ky. Elizabeth Pettyjohn. Died after 1870 in Casey Co., Ky.

Received this from another site.....I don't know its validity.....I just thought it was humorous, so I decided to share it with everyone............. ... > >On the grave of Ezekial Aikle in East Dalhousie Cemetery, Nova Scotia: > Here lies > Ezekial Aikle > Age 102 > The Good > Die Young. > >In a London, England cemetery: > Ann Mann > Here lies Ann Mann, > Who lived an old maid > But died an old Mann. > Dec. 8, 1767 > >In a Ribbesford, England, cemetery: > Anna Wallace > The children of Israel wanted bread > And the Lord sent them manna, > Old clerk Wallace wanted a wife, > And the Devil sent him Anna. > >Playing with names in a Ruidoso, New Mexico, cemetery: > Here lies > Johnny Yeast > Pardon me > For not rising. > >Memory of an accident in a Uniontown, Pennsylvania cemetery: > Here lies the body > of Jonathan Blake > Stepped on the gas > Instead of the brake. > >In a Silver City, Nevada, cemetery: > Here lays Butch, > We planted him raw. > He was quick on the trigger, > But slow on the draw. > >A widow wrote this epitaph in a Vermont cemetery: > Sacred to the memory of > my husband John Barnes > who died January 3, 1803 > His comely young widow, aged 23, has > many qualifications of a good wife, and > yearns to be comforted. >(ed: guess they did not have personnal ads then) > >A lawyer's epitaph in England: > Sir John Strange > Here lies an honest lawyer, > And that is Strange. > >Someone determined to be anonymous in Stowe, Vermont: > I was somebody. > Who, is no business > Of yours. > >Lester Moore was a Wells, Fargo Co. station agent for Naco, Arizona in the >cowboy days of the 1880's. He's buried in the Boot Hill Cemetry in >Tombtone, Arizona: > Here lies Lester Moore > Four slugs from a .44 > No Les No More. > >In a Georgia cemetery: > "I told you I was sick!" > >John Penny's epitaph in the Wimborne, England, cemetery: > Reader if cash thou art > In want of any > Dig 4 feet deep > And thou wilt find a Penny. > >On Margaret Daniels grave at Hollywood Cemetery Richmond, Virginia: > She always said her feet were killing her > but nobody believed her. > >In a cemetery in Hartscombe, England: > On the 22nd of June > - Jonathan Fiddle - > Went out of tune. > >Anna Hopewell's grave in Enosburg Falls, Vermont has an epitaph that sounds >like something from a Three Stooges movie: > Here lies the body of our Anna > Done to death by a banana > It wasn't the fruit that laid her low > But the skin of the thing that made her go. > >More fun with names with Owen Moore in Battersea, London, England: > Gone away > Owin' more > Than he could pay. > >Someone in Winslow, Maine didn't like Mr. Wood: > In Memory of Beza Wood > Departed this life > Nov. 2, 1837 > Aged 45 yrs. > Here lies one Wood > Enclosed in wood > One Wood > Within another. > The outer wood > Is very good: > We cannot praise > The other. > >On a grave from the 1880's in Nantucket, Massachusetts: > Under the sod and under the trees > Lies the body of Jonathan Pease. > He is not here, there's only the pod: > Pease shelled out and went to God. > >The grave of Ellen Shannon in Girard, Pennsylvania is almost a consumer tip: > Who was fatally burned > March 21, 1870 > by the explosion of a lamp > filled with "R.E. Danforth's > Non-Explosive Burning Fluid" > >Oops! Harry Edsel Smith of Albany, New York: > Born 1903--Died 1942 > Looked up the elevator shaft to see if > the car was on the way down. It was. > >In a Thurmont, Maryland, cemetery: > Here lies an Atheist > All dressed up > And no place to go. > >In a cemetary in England: > Remember man, as you walk by, > As you are now, so once was I, > As I am now, so shal you be, > Remember this and follow me. > >To which someone replied by writing on the tombstome: > > To follow you I'll not consent, > Until I know which way you went. > > > Submitted by: Chet Rock @ aol.com > >

Hi Barbee, Your surname list at the end of your post contained another name that I am researching from the Casey county KY area, Rice. Here is what I have on the Phillips and Rice families. I hope that we can make a connection. You also menitoned a will, is this for Charles Phillips and his wife Agnes (Nancy) Riley? I would "love" to have a copy of it, if it pertains to Charles. Charles Phillips was born befor 1765 married on 22 May 1782 in Rockbridge Co. VA and died 27 Mar. 1826 in Casey co.Ky. His spouse was Agnes (Nancy), I have no other information on her. Their children: Allen abt 1803, Amy, no data, Anne, no data, James b. 29 Sept 1783 m. 11 Feb 1849 Howard co. MO, unknown death date, spouses Mary "Polly" Minor, (2nd) Isabella Brinton, Mary no data, Nancy, no data, Sarah b. bef 1790 m. 14 Sept 1807 Washington co. KY d. aft 1850 to John Prewitt, then finally my line, John Riley born 10 Aug 1792 in Casey co.KY, m. 15 Aug 1822 d. 5, Sept 1887 REnsselaer RAlls co. MO, spouses, Mary Dye Greenwood & (2nd) Polly Guthrie. John's data: spouse: Mary Dye Greenwood d/o Nimrod Greenwood & Catherine Dye McMiller b. 4 July 1804 KY d. 16 July 1828 KY children: Catherine Dye Phillips b. 27 Feb 1824 Ralls co. MO m. 20 Dec 1843 Oak Forest MO. d. 23 Mar 1911 Ralls co. Mo. spouse: My line, John Wesley Phillips Mary Ann b. 21 May 1826, no other data. Children with Polly Guthrie: Elizabeth b. abt 1832 no other data, Charles H. b. abt 1836 m. 5 Dec 1867 Ralls co. Mo, to Susan Salling, Sarah b. 28 Feb 1836 (twins??) Frances Ellen b. 1841, m. 16 Nov 1865 spouse Willialm Thomas Carothers, William G. b. 2 Jan 1844 m. 30 July 1877 m. Emma Greer & (2nd) Ella Loftiss An intersting note: James Phillips, Johns brother, was married to Mary Minor, sister of George Minor who was married to Isabelle Brinton. After George's death James then married Isabelle. As to the Rice surname: This connection was through Warren county KY. Tabitha Rice was the d/o John M. Rice and Patsy (Polly) Johnson, d/o Noiel Johnson. Apparently, many of that area got together and travelled to Missouri, first stopping in Howard county, then onto Boone, although if memory serves me correctly, it was all Howard county at that point. Tabitha met and married Berryman Wren on 11 March 1818 in Warren. They came to Missouri very early in the 1820's as most of their children, if not all, were born in Missouri. Does any of this look familiar? Hopefully,we can establish a connection, looking forward to hearing from you, Sincerely, Shirley Minor Larson 11125 Main St. Apt. 5 New Middletown OH 444442 Barbee Hodgkins wrote: > >Hello Gary, > >Did you by any chance receive my earlier post? I am a descendent of Charles > >and Agnes's son John Riley, I'd love to exchange information with you. > >Sincerely, > >Shirley Minor Larson > > > Shirley > > I read with much interest your email to Casey County List about John Riley > Phillips. > > I am descended from a John Phillips and Ami who died in Ray Co MO in the > 1850's. They had a son Jesse md to Polly Rutherford in Adair County KY; > they had a son John born in TN who migrated to Oregon and he named a son > Riley. I have wondered if he was named after a family member but could > never find a Riley among the descendents that I have been able to find. > > Riley was born in the foothills of the Ozarks in MO. > > I have found collateral family names in Casey County and copied deeds and > wills for Charles Phillips in the hope of finding a connection somehow. > > Does any of this ring a bell? What can you tell me about Charles and his > descendents? Any knowledge will help me to sort out all these Phillips > families that were in southcentral KY in the early 1800's. John and Ami > seem to be no relation to the others. > > Hope to hear from you soon. > > Barbee Hodgkins > Searching for Phillips, Rice, Rutherford, Shelton, Waller in South Central KY. > Barbee Hodgkins > bhodgkin@OregonVOS.net

>Hello Gary, >Did you by any chance receive my earlier post? I am a descendent of Charles >and Agnes's son John Riley, I'd love to exchange information with you. >Sincerely, >Shirley Minor Larson > Shirley I read with much interest your email to Casey County List about John Riley Phillips. I am descended from a John Phillips and Ami who died in Ray Co MO in the 1850's. They had a son Jesse md to Polly Rutherford in Adair County KY; they had a son John born in TN who migrated to Oregon and he named a son Riley. I have wondered if he was named after a family member but could never find a Riley among the descendents that I have been able to find. Riley was born in the foothills of the Ozarks in MO. I have found collateral family names in Casey County and copied deeds and wills for Charles Phillips in the hope of finding a connection somehow. Does any of this ring a bell? What can you tell me about Charles and his descendents? Any knowledge will help me to sort out all these Phillips families that were in southcentral KY in the early 1800's. John and Ami seem to be no relation to the others. Hope to hear from you soon. Barbee Hodgkins Searching for Phillips, Rice, Rutherford, Shelton, Waller in South Central KY. Barbee Hodgkins bhodgkin@OregonVOS.net

Pg 15 / Out of the Past Photo/Liberty Star 1945/46 7th-grade Liberty Elem Betty June Taylor/ Ruth Jefferies / Flo Margan / Corinne Short / Mary Elizabeth Hendrickson / Francina Sanders / Gail Hopper / Dorothy Barricks / Jeanette Carmicle / Joy Wilson / Patria Lee / Mary Lee Porter / Gene Holt / Phillip Dillion / Bobby Joe Rich / Bernard Tarter / Mary Grider / June Ann Stafford / Humphery Elliott / Billy Cooper / Bobby Joe Overstreet / Harold Taylor / John Shugars / Carl Grooms / Jesse Barlow/ R.C. Hanson / J. C. Wilson / Pat Shugars Not present: Jo & Jerry Brown May 3 1989 Scott TAYLOR - Burkhard Bera scholarship Otis C. THOMAS - 70 yr cert/ American Legion Casey Post 78 Mr & Mrs Nathan SHOUSE - 50TH Annv Mr & Mrs Raymond WALL - 55 th Annv Obit: Ruth BOLIN, 81 / M.H. SASSER Jr, 63 / Ralph J GILPIN, 70 / Mollie Emline GADBERRY, 70 / Richard REEVES MUTTERSBAUGH, 69 May 3 1979 Arthur GARRETT & Bill TAYLOR - Argyle Grocery owned by them robbed Obit: Rhonda Jane PATTERSON, 74 / Welby OWEN, 67 / Laverne CLEARY, 39 May 1 1969 Kathy WESLEY -Western Ky Univ / talent & beauty contest Merl TOMS- Conservation Officer Obit: Louis E LINVILLE, 60 / Lida WALTERS, 61 / Benny Lewis BROCKMAN,63 / Pauline CREECH NORSWORTHY, 59 April 30 1959 Dick CARMICLE - Mayor Casey Co Obit: Earl Wesley WILHAM, 26 / John ROY, 75 / Jacob C GADBERRY, 77 / John MOXLEY, 63 / Clifford BEAL, 17 / Sallie V PITTMAN / Wilford RANDOLPH, 84 April 5 1949 W.H.SIMPSON -asks the public to attend meetings concerning Casey Co Margaret P HOLDER - Casey Co High Valedictorian Obit: Mary Ann BROWN FAIR, 86 / William Henry RICH, 94 / Tom C ELLIOTT, 64

Hello Gary, Did you by any chance receive my earlier post? I am a descendent of Charles and Agnes's son John Riley, I'd love to exchange information with you. Sincerely, Shirley Minor Larson Gary Winter wrote: > All, > > I am researching the following family from Casey County and would love to > exchange information. > > Gary > > 1. Charles PHILLIPS b. BEF 1765, m. 22 May 1782, in > Virginia, Agnes (Nancy) RILEY, b. BEF 1765, d. BEF 1844, > Casey County, Kentucky, buried: Casey County, Kentucky. > Charles died 27 Mar 1826, Casey County, Kentucky, buried: > Casey County, Kentucky. > Children: > + 2. i Sarah (Sally) b. 1790. > 3. ii James PHILLIPS. > 4. iii John R. PHILLIPS. > 5. iv Allen PHILLIPS. > 6. v Anne PHILLIPS. > 7. vi Mary PHILLIPS. > 8. vii Nancy PHILLIPS. > 9. viii Amy PHILLIPS. > > Second Generation > > 2. Sarah (Sally) PHILLIPS (1.Charles) b. 1790, Kentucky, > m. 14 Sep 1807, in Washington County, Kentucky, John > PREWITT, b. 1785, Virginia, (son of John PREWITT) d. AFT > 1850, Marion County, Kentucky. Sarah died AFT 1850. > Children: > 10. i Sarah PREWITT b. 1821, Marion County, Kentucky, > m. BEF 1849, in Marion County, Kentucky, James > Robert NELSON, b. 1 Mar 1816, Marion County, > Kentucky, (son of John NELSON and Catharine > STILTS) d. 7 Mar 1879, Otwell, Pike County, > Indiana, buried: Chappell Cemetery, Otwell, > Pike Co., IN. Sarah died 6 Apr 1852, Marion > County, Kentucky, buried: Marion County, > Kentucky. > 11. ii Charles PREWITT b. 1826, Marion County, > Kentucky. > 12. iii Barthena PREWITT b. 1831, Marion County, > Kentucky. > > ==== KYCASEY Mailing List ==== > Are you a member of the Bicentennial Heritage Corporation? > Send in your dues for 1999 now.

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