Hello Sir this what I was able to find hope this will help you. Good Luck Mary Ramey Cemetery Elkhorn City KY, Little Beaver Creek on Beaver Creek. Hopewell Cemetery, Ohio Co., KY Directions: Take the Western Kentucky Highway towards the Green River Before the Green River, there will be a road near the towns of Echols and Rockport. This road should be Pond Run Road (Hwy 176). Take Pond Run Road south and continue on. Continue past Fulkerson Hall Road. The road will divide into Pond Run Road and Hopewell Road (176) Continue south on Hopewell Road (176) and the road should deadend at Hopewell Cemetery Lane. *********************************** Kentucky Cemeteries - Page 3 Burrows Cemetery Trimble County Bush Cemetery Trigg County Buskirk Route 49 Buskirk Bussel Mountain Cemetery Bell County Butcher Cemetery Bath County C. M. 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Lexington Calvary Cemetery 874 W Main St Lexington 40508 * Established in 2001 Calvary Cemetery CrO Jefferson County Calvary Cemetery Office 1600 Newburg Road Louisville 40205 Calvery Cemetery 1600 Newburg Rd Louisville- Jefferson Camp Cemetery CrO Jefferson County Camp Ground Cemetery Barren County Camp Ground Church Camp Ground Road Maud Camp Nelson National Cemetery CrO Jessamine County Camp Nelson National Cemetery 6980 Danville Road Nicholasville 40356 Candle Ridge Cemetery Indian Creek Road Gray 40734 Cane Valley Cemetery Hwy 55 Cane Valley * Established in 1827 Cane Valley Cemetery CrO Adair County Cannon Lake Cemetery Bell County Cannon Lake Cemetery #2 Bell County Cap Anderson Cemetery CrO Meade County Capito Cemetery Bell County Captain Edmund's Cemetery Barren County Carey Cemetery Bell County Carmack Cemetery Bell County Carnes Stinking Creek Rd Roaring Fork Carpenter Cemetery Boone County Carr Cemetery Carr Street Fulton Carroll Cemetery Bell County Carroll Old Cemetery Bell County Carson Cemetery Trigg County Carter Cemetery Carterbranch Road Graves County Carter Cemetery Highway 92 Carter Branch * Established in 2000 Carter Cemetery Marshes Siding 42653 Carter Cemetery Carter Branch Tinsley Carter Tabernacle Carter Church Rd. 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Edmonton 42129 * Established in 1850's Cedar Grove Cemetery Cedar Grove Rd Livingston 42028 Cedar Point Cementary Combest Rd Nancy 42544 Cessna Cemetery Us 62 Powderly 42367 Cessna Cemetery, CrO Muhlenberg County Chambers Cemetery CrO Boone County Chapel Hill Church Farmersville Caldwell County Chapel Hill Memorial Gardens 1950 Scottsville Road Bowling Green 42104 Chapman Cemetery Barren County Chappell Ridge Cemetery Bullitt County Charles Cemetery Bell County Chenoa Cemetery Bell County Cherry Springs Church Munfordsville Childers Family Cemetery Childers Cemetery Road Widecreek Childress Cemetery Barren County Choat Cemetery Jamestown Christy Family Graveyard Boone County Church Of Christ Cuba City Cemetery #2 Jackson County City Of Franklin Cemetery 420 Cemetery Street Franklin 42134 City Of Henderson Cemetery 222 1st Street Henderson 42420 Clark Castle Cemetery Route 23 Nippa Clark Cemetery Ky Rt 3379 Grethel 41631 * Established in 1800 Clark Cemetery Breckinridge County Clarmont Memorial Gardens 3000 Mt. Sterling Road Winchester 40391 Clay Cooper Cemetery Breckinridge County Claypool Cemetery Bowling Green 42101 Clifford Farm Cemetery Trimble County Cochran Cemetery Greenup County Coffey - Riddle Cemetery Route 32 Rowan County Cole Cemetery Houser Road Benton * Established in 1800 Coleman - Sibley Cemetery Trimble County Collett Cemetery Bell County Collings Cemetery Bullitt County Collingsworth Cemetery Middlesboro Collins Cemetery Belle Point Road Beattyville 41311 Collins Plum Grove Cemetery CrO Greenup County Community Cemetery CrO Hart County Compton Cemetery CrO Monroe County The CrO symbol indicates transcription available at Cemetery Records Online. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This should be the cemetery. Kentucky Cemeteries - Page 4 Concord Cemetery Russell County Constance Cemetery CrO Boone County Conway Old Graveyard Bourbon County Cooksey Graveyard CrO Allen County Coombs - Williams Family Cemetery CrO Larue County Cooper Cemetery Bull Fork Road Rowan County Corbin Family Graveyard Campbell County Corinth Baptist Cemetery CrO Larue County Corn Creek Baptist Church Cemetery Trimble County Corum Cemetery Bell County Cosby United Methodist Church Cemetery, CrO Hart County Cosby Wilson Cemetery Russell County County Farm Cemetery CrO Larue County Cox Burials Bell County Cox Cemetery Cox Cemetery Road Bell County Cox Cemetery #2 Jason Trent Cemetery Road Rowan County Coyle, Hisel, Isaacs Sinking Valley School Road Jackson Co Crab Orchard Cemetery CrO Lincoln County Craig - Onstott - Gill Cemetery Trimble County Crawford Cemetery Athol Creech Cemetery Bell County Creekmur Cemetery * Established in 1895 Crestlawn Cemetery 1879 Lexington Road Georgetown 40324 Crews Cemetery CrO Marion County Crisp Cemetery Davisport Tomahawk 41262 * Established in 1956 Crisp Family Cemetery Lower Oak Grove Road Rowan County Crisp Farm Cemetery Lower Oak Grove Road Rowan County Crix Cemetery Route 1167 At Crix Road Rowan County Croley Cemetery Bell County Crouch - Craig Cemetery Bath County Crowell Cemetery Graves County Cub Run Cementery Cub Run Cumberland Memorial Gardens 5970 South Us Highway 25 Corbin 40701 Cummings Cemetery Dale Hollow * Established circa 1920 Cundiff Cemetery Knifley Road Columbia 42728 * Established in 1873 Curde Cavanaugh Princeton Rd. 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Hardin 42071 * Established in 1904 Daugherty Farm Cemetery CrO Larue County Davidson Memorial Cemetery Highway 23 Ivel 41642 Davidson Memorial Gardens Highway 23 Ivel 41642 Davis Cemetery Bath County Dawson Cemetery Dawson Cemetery Road Rowan County Day Cemetery Beattyville Dean Cemetery Bell County Dean Cemetery #2 Bell County Deatherage Cemetery CrO Carroll County Dehart Cemetery Dehart Cemetery Road Rowan County Dehart Cemetery #2 Route 377 Rowan County Delph Burials Bell County Dewey Brock Cemetery Bell County Dewitt Cemetery Dewitt Cemetery Road Rowan County Dezarn Cemetery CrO Green County Dillon Cemetery Dillon Cemetery Road Rowan County Dizney Church Of God Cemetery CrO Bills Creek Dizney 40847 Do Well Hollow Burials Bell County Donoho Carter Howell Warren Doom Chapel Hwy. 62 Kuttawa 42055 Doom Chapel Cemetery Hwy 641 Kuttawa 42055 * Established in 1850 Double Springs Cemetery Cemetary Rd. Waynesburg 40489 Downing - Roberts Cemetery CrO Scott County Downing Family Cemetery CrO Mason County Doyle Rt 1 Brownsville 42210 Drake Cemetery Rock Fork Road Rowan County Drift Cemetery Drift 41619 Duncan Cemetery Middlesboro Dunn Family Cemetery Outside City Russelleville * Established in 1700 Dupuy - Gray - Greenslate Cemetery Greenup County Dutch Reformed Church Salt River Harrodsburg 40330 * Established in 1800 Duvall - Gorin Cemetery Barren County Duvall Cemetery Barren County Dye Family Cemetery CrO Larue County Earl Bowling Cemetery Hwy N 25 E Bernstadt 40729 * Established in 1951 East Ashland Memorial Gardens 422 55th Street Ashland 41101 East Bend Power Station Emetary Rabbit Hash Orbeaver Rd. Union 6481 East Carter County Memory Gdn 1296 East Us Highway 60 Grayson 41143 East Providence Cemetery Cromwell Eastern Cemetery Baxter Ave. Louisville 40206 Ebenezer Church Of Christ Cemetery Cummins Ferry Road Salvisa Eden Cemetery Eden Hollow Rowan County Eden's Chapel Graveyard CrO Fleming County Edlin Family Cemetery CrO Larue County Edmund's Cemetery Barren County Edwards Family Cemetery Watkins Rd And Minor Rd Sebree Eivens Family Cemetery CrO Larue County Eldridge Cemetery Bull Fork Road Rowan County Elizabethtown Memorial Gardens 109 Layman Lane Elizabethtown 42701 Elkspring Cemetery CrO Wayne County Ellington South Cemetery Ellington Cemetery South Road Rowan County Elliott Cemetery Bell County Elliott Company Memory Gardens Kentucky 7 & Kentucky 32 Sandy Hook 41171 Elmore - Warren Cemetery CrO Green County Elmwood Cemetery Rockcastle County Sorry nothing found on "East Fork Christian Church Cemetery" Dbl check ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- -----Original Message----- From: H.D. [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 6:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYCARTER] Ramey Cemetery or East Fork Christian Church Cemetery Does anyone know where either of these cemeteries are located? They are supposedly in Carter County. The Ramey Cemetery is on Loss Creek (which I think should be Lost Creek), Hopewell, Carter Co. KY. I think the Hopewell is incorrect, as the only Hopewell I know of is Hopewell Furnace in Greenup Co. As far as East Fork Christian Church Cemetery, I couldn't find an East Fork anywhere in Carter Co. Any help would be most appreciated. My G-grandfather, John W. Jordan and his 5th wife, Olivia (Ollie) are supposedly buried at one of these cemeteries. Hugh Davis Greenup Co. ==== KYCARTER Mailing List ==== We have archives! 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Does anyone know where either of these cemeteries are located? They are supposedly in Carter County. The Ramey Cemetery is on Loss Creek (which I think should be Lost Creek), Hopewell, Carter Co. KY. I think the Hopewell is incorrect, as the only Hopewell I know of is Hopewell Furnace in Greenup Co. As far as East Fork Christian Church Cemetery, I couldn't find an East Fork anywhere in Carter Co. Any help would be most appreciated. My G-grandfather, John W. Jordan and his 5th wife, Olivia (Ollie) are supposedly buried at one of these cemeteries. Hugh Davis Greenup Co.

Hello Keith, I'm Mary My Grandma was MinnieBelle daughter Phoebe Alfred Nelson Porter Mc Glone. Anyway this information was send to me I forward to you because you mention you was in search " Messer" information. By :)My father was born Carter Co. KY This is a very small part of a file that was sent to me from Robbie Carroll, my second cousin. He's the son of my cousin Annel (Annie) Messer who is the daughter of Shirley Messer, son of John Edward Messer. However, the file is very extensive and came from Cassie Sommers and her years of research. I think this is her email address: [email protected] Cassie will be able to help you since she's an expert and I'm just starting. Sue First Generation YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 1. John Messer. Born abt 1755 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. John died in Knox County, Kentucky. Prior to 1790, John Messer lived in Virginia and was in Edgefield, South Carolina. He was also in Wythe County, Virginia after 1794. He was awarded land in Kentucky for his service in the American Revolutionary War. Virgina 1790 census page 106, John Messer 5 Males 1 female South Carolina 1790 census page 65, John Messer 1 male over 16, 4 males under 16, 1 female North Carolina 1790 census page 147, John Messer 4 males under 16, family group matches. "Darlington County Memorialized Records", The South Carolina Magizine of Ancestral Research, Volume VII, 1979, page 74-75. An Administration on the Estate of John MESSERs granted to Benjamin WRIGHT Junior, May Intermediate Court 1794. Securitys to bond Jacob BUCKHOLT and David GOODWIN, penalty One hundred pounds Sterling. From: "Messer, Carroll" <[email protected]> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Subject: Messer Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:23:20 -0500 Our earliest known Messers apparently came through the Cumberland Gap in about 1780 and settled in the upper hollows of the Cumberland River in Knox County, in southeastern Kentucky. This first settlement was along Stinking Creek and probably near the small village of Walker. Several of the creeks which formed the hollows of this section of the Cumberland River Valley over the eons are frequently repeated in stories of the Messers. Stinking Creek, Turkey Creek Fighting Creek, and Trace Branch were often named in the stories that my grandmother Julia Fortney-Messer often told me about "back in Kentucky." After driving up Turkey Creek and Fortney Branch during August of 1988, I can better appreciate how each was its own little community but yet how close they all really were to one another. A map of Knox County, Kentucky is most helpful in tracing the history of the Messers. Using a detailed highway department county map, one can locate many of the creeks, villages and cemeteries that are so important to the Ambrose Messer Family Tree as I know it. Apparently this part of Knox County was a part of Clay County in the early 1800's. My tree of genealogy says that Ambrose Messer was my grandfather's grandfather of the same name. I have seen a picture of a backwoods elderly man setting on the porch of his home and holding a Bible with his wife standing beside him. I was told that this was Ambrose, a lay Christian preacher of his time. I now believe that Pearl Powell of Belzonia, OK had this picture and perhaps many more; I will soon check about this point. The name Ambrose is appropriate since St. Ambrose was a 3rd-Century religious libertarian from Italy--perhaps the forerunner of Roger Williams and Thomas Jefferson. The Messers also have tended to name some of their children after their grandparents. Abt 1789 John married Agnes Unknown, in South Carolina. Born abt 1755 in virginia. Agnes died in Knox County, Kentucky. Agnes Unknown lived in Virginia and in South Carolina. Later she lived in Knox County, Kentucky. They had the following children: 2 i. William (~1782-) 3 ii. John (1786-1824) 4 iii. Stephen Dillard (1788->1860) 5 iv. Jacob (1790-) 6 v. Moses (1790->1870) 7 vi. Sarah (1793-) 8 vii. Sion (1794-1857) 9 viii. Prudence (1797-) 10 ix. Benjamin (~1800->1860) 11 x. Son (~1802-) 12 xi. Samuel (1804-1837) -----Original Message----- From: Lorene [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYCARTER] Re: KYCARTER-D Digest V04 #103 Sue, Do you have the land warrant from the Revolutionary War for John Messer,or know where I can get the record? I don't find his name in the KY. land warrants from the Revolutionary War. On Friday, October 8, 2004, at 02:03 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Content-Type: text/plain > > KYCARTER-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 103 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Looking for information on the Mes ["Sue Bryant" > <[email protected]>] > #2 RE: [KYCARTER] Looking for informa ["Keith Winkelman" > <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from KYCARTER-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #1 > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:11:15 -0400 > From: "Sue Bryant" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > > 10/07/04 > > Hello everyone: > > I'm new at this so bear with me. I am looking for information on the > Messers & Tabors of Carter County. Mr. Randy Jackson has helped me > greatly with my Messer side. From him I found the following: > > Father - Lavern Messer bn. 1928 Carter Cty. > Grandfather John Edward Messer bn. 1896 Knoxville, TN > Great Grandfather Thomas Jefferson Messer bn. 1835 Knox Cty. KY > Great Great Grandfather Benjamin Messer born 1800 Wythe County VA > Great Great Great Grandfather John Messer born 1755 Edgefield Cty, SC > John Messer fought in the Revolutionary War and was given land in Knox > Cty. Ky as payment. > Great Great Great Great Grandfather James Messer bn in 1735 in Edgefield > Cty., SC > > My Great Grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Messer married Emily Dawson in > 1858. He married Laura Mullins in 1890. I'm trying to find out when > Jefferson Messer died and where he is buried. Grandpa Messer said he > grew up in Leon near Grayson. > > My Grandfather John Edward Messer married Ethel Tabor. Ethel's father > was Jasper Tabor of Olive Hill. I understand that my Great Grandmother > on the Tabor side was a full blooded Cherokee. > > Any info regarding either side would be helpful. > > Thank you. > > Sue Messer Bryant > Greenville, SC > > > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #2 > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 21:54:52 -0700 > From: "Keith Winkelman" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Sue, > I have some Tabors in my tree. Might be related because mine are in > Olive > Hill as well. They're offline from me but you never know. Here goes: > > My gggg grandfather was George Washington HENDERSON. His brother, James > Alexander HENDERSON (b.7/6/1784 in PA, d.6/24/1866 in Olive Hill, KY) > married Nancy Jane (Jennie) MILLER in Olive Hill. Their daughter > Matilda > HENDERSON (b.3/13/1821 in Greenup Co., KY, d.2/1/1872 in Carter Co., KY) > married Addison Carl TABOR (b.4/20/1823 in VA d.6/8/1902 in Carter Co., > KY) > on 2/1/1841 in Carter Co., KY. Addison's parents were Basil Moab TABOR > and > Nancy JACKSON. > > Addison and Matilda had one son that I know of, Napoleon Bonaparte TABOR > (b.1/27/1842 d.3/31/1877, both in Carter Co., KY) who married Frances > DEHART > (b. 1.24.1841 in Adair Co., KY d.5/28/1916 unkn). They married > 3/25/1863 in > Adair Co., KY. They had two kids (that I know of): Jemimah Jane > (b.12.15.1864 d.3/15/1896 both in Carter Co., KY) and Sally M > (b.4/2/1871 in > Adair Co., KY). Jemimah married Richard A. BOND and Sally married his > brother Ephriam BOND. > > Hope that helps a little. > > Keith Winkelman > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Bryant [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors > Importance: High > > 10/07/04 > > Hello everyone: > > I'm new at this so bear with me. I am looking for information on the > Messers & Tabors of Carter County. Mr. Randy Jackson has helped me > greatly with my Messer side. From him I found the following: > > Father - Lavern Messer bn. 1928 Carter Cty. > Grandfather John Edward Messer bn. 1896 Knoxville, TN > Great Grandfather Thomas Jefferson Messer bn. 1835 Knox Cty. KY > Great Great Grandfather Benjamin Messer born 1800 Wythe County VA > Great Great Great Grandfather John Messer born 1755 Edgefield Cty, SC > John Messer fought in the Revolutionary War and was given land in Knox > Cty. Ky as payment. > Great Great Great Great Grandfather James Messer bn in 1735 in Edgefield > Cty., SC > > My Great Grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Messer married Emily Dawson in > 1858. He married Laura Mullins in 1890. I'm trying to find out when > Jefferson Messer died and where he is buried. Grandpa Messer said he > grew up in Leon near Grayson. > > My Grandfather John Edward Messer married Ethel Tabor. Ethel's father > was Jasper Tabor of Olive Hill. I understand that my Great Grandmother > on the Tabor side was a full blooded Cherokee. > > Any info regarding either side would be helpful. > > Thank you. > > Sue Messer Bryant > Greenville, SC > > > > > ==== KYCARTER Mailing List ==== > List Mom for KYCARTER: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 -----Original Message----- From: Keith Winkelman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors Laverne, Thanks again for the listings for the Tabors. Could you also send the listing for Robert Henderson and his family? - you said was 2 spaces above. In addition, could you include the page, line, and family numbers if they're available? I find I'm missing that census entry for Robert. Thank you so much in advance, Keith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 3:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors I have the following from the 1850 federal census records: 1850 - District #2, Carter Co., KY TABOR, Addison, 27, farmer, $300, b. KY; Matilda, 29, b. KY; Napolean, 8, Bazel, 4; Lafayette, 1/12; all b. KY (they were 2 spaces above Robert HENDERSON) TABOR, Bazel M., 51, farmer, b. VA; Nancy, b. VA; Adolphus, 20; Lilburn (m.), 25; Ira, 16, all b. VA (next-door to Addison TABOR, his son) Laverne Galeener-Moore ==== KYCARTER Mailing List ==== USGS Mapping Information query form http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ==== KYCARTER Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send the command "unsubscribe" to [email protected] (if in mail mode) or [email protected] (if in digest mode.) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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KY; Napolean, 8, Bazel, 4; Lafayette, 1/12; all b. KY (they were 2 spaces above Robert HENDERSON) TABOR, Bazel M., 51, farmer, b. VA; Nancy, b. VA; Adolphus, 20; Lilburn (m.), 25; Ira, 16, all b. VA (next-door to Addison TABOR, his son) Laverne Galeener-Moore ==== KYCARTER Mailing List ==== USGS Mapping Information query form http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hello I Mary My Grandma was MinnieBelle daughter Phoebe Alfred Nelson Porter Mc Glone. Anyway this information was send to me I forward to you because you mention you was in search " Messer" information. By :)My father was born Carter Co. KY This is a very small part of a file that was sent to me from Robbie Carroll, my second cousin. He's the son of my cousin Annel (Annie) Messer who is the daughter of Shirley Messer, son of John Edward Messer. However, the file is very extensive and came from Cassie Sommers and her years of research. I think this is her email address: [email protected] Cassie will be able to help you since she's an expert and I'm just starting. Sue First Generation YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 1. John Messer. Born abt 1755 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. John died in Knox County, Kentucky. Prior to 1790, John Messer lived in Virginia and was in Edgefield, South Carolina. He was also in Wythe County, Virginia after 1794. He was awarded land in Kentucky for his service in the American Revolutionary War. Virgina 1790 census page 106, John Messer 5 Males 1 female South Carolina 1790 census page 65, John Messer 1 male over 16, 4 males under 16, 1 female North Carolina 1790 census page 147, John Messer 4 males under 16, family group matches. "Darlington County Memorialized Records", The South Carolina Magizine of Ancestral Research, Volume VII, 1979, page 74-75. An Administration on the Estate of John MESSERs granted to Benjamin WRIGHT Junior, May Intermediate Court 1794. Securitys to bond Jacob BUCKHOLT and David GOODWIN, penalty One hundred pounds Sterling. From: "Messer, Carroll" <[email protected]> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Subject: Messer Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:23:20 -0500 Our earliest known Messers apparently came through the Cumberland Gap in about 1780 and settled in the upper hollows of the Cumberland River in Knox County, in southeastern Kentucky. This first settlement was along Stinking Creek and probably near the small village of Walker. Several of the creeks which formed the hollows of this section of the Cumberland River Valley over the eons are frequently repeated in stories of the Messers. Stinking Creek, Turkey Creek Fighting Creek, and Trace Branch were often named in the stories that my grandmother Julia Fortney-Messer often told me about "back in Kentucky." After driving up Turkey Creek and Fortney Branch during August of 1988, I can better appreciate how each was its own little community but yet how close they all really were to one another. A map of Knox County, Kentucky is most helpful in tracing the history of the Messers. Using a detailed highway department county map, one can locate many of the creeks, villages and cemeteries that are so important to the Ambrose Messer Family Tree as I know it. Apparently this part of Knox County was a part of Clay County in the early 1800's. My tree of genealogy says that Ambrose Messer was my grandfather's grandfather of the same name. I have seen a picture of a backwoods elderly man setting on the porch of his home and holding a Bible with his wife standing beside him. I was told that this was Ambrose, a lay Christian preacher of his time. I now believe that Pearl Powell of Belzonia, OK had this picture and perhaps many more; I will soon check about this point. The name Ambrose is appropriate since St. Ambrose was a 3rd-Century religious libertarian from Italy--perhaps the forerunner of Roger Williams and Thomas Jefferson. The Messers also have tended to name some of their children after their grandparents. Abt 1789 John married Agnes Unknown, in South Carolina. Born abt 1755 in virginia. Agnes died in Knox County, Kentucky. Agnes Unknown lived in Virginia and in South Carolina. Later she lived in Knox County, Kentucky. They had the following children: 2 i. William (~1782-) 3 ii. John (1786-1824) 4 iii. Stephen Dillard (1788->1860) 5 iv. Jacob (1790-) 6 v. Moses (1790->1870) 7 vi. Sarah (1793-) 8 vii. Sion (1794-1857) 9 viii. Prudence (1797-) 10 ix. Benjamin (~1800->1860) 11 x. Son (~1802-) 12 xi. Samuel (1804-1837) -----Original Message----- From: Lorene [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYCARTER] Re: KYCARTER-D Digest V04 #103 Sue, Do you have the land warrant from the Revolutionary War for John Messer,or know where I can get the record? I don't find his name in the KY. land warrants from the Revolutionary War. On Friday, October 8, 2004, at 02:03 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Content-Type: text/plain > > KYCARTER-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 103 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Looking for information on the Mes ["Sue Bryant" > <[email protected]>] > #2 RE: [KYCARTER] Looking for informa ["Keith Winkelman" > <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from KYCARTER-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #1 > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:11:15 -0400 > From: "Sue Bryant" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > > 10/07/04 > > Hello everyone: > > I'm new at this so bear with me. I am looking for information on the > Messers & Tabors of Carter County. Mr. Randy Jackson has helped me > greatly with my Messer side. From him I found the following: > > Father - Lavern Messer bn. 1928 Carter Cty. > Grandfather John Edward Messer bn. 1896 Knoxville, TN > Great Grandfather Thomas Jefferson Messer bn. 1835 Knox Cty. KY > Great Great Grandfather Benjamin Messer born 1800 Wythe County VA > Great Great Great Grandfather John Messer born 1755 Edgefield Cty, SC > John Messer fought in the Revolutionary War and was given land in Knox > Cty. Ky as payment. > Great Great Great Great Grandfather James Messer bn in 1735 in Edgefield > Cty., SC > > My Great Grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Messer married Emily Dawson in > 1858. He married Laura Mullins in 1890. I'm trying to find out when > Jefferson Messer died and where he is buried. Grandpa Messer said he > grew up in Leon near Grayson. > > My Grandfather John Edward Messer married Ethel Tabor. Ethel's father > was Jasper Tabor of Olive Hill. I understand that my Great Grandmother > on the Tabor side was a full blooded Cherokee. > > Any info regarding either side would be helpful. > > Thank you. > > Sue Messer Bryant > Greenville, SC > > > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #2 > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 21:54:52 -0700 > From: "Keith Winkelman" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Sue, > I have some Tabors in my tree. Might be related because mine are in > Olive > Hill as well. They're offline from me but you never know. Here goes: > > My gggg grandfather was George Washington HENDERSON. His brother, James > Alexander HENDERSON (b.7/6/1784 in PA, d.6/24/1866 in Olive Hill, KY) > married Nancy Jane (Jennie) MILLER in Olive Hill. Their daughter > Matilda > HENDERSON (b.3/13/1821 in Greenup Co., KY, d.2/1/1872 in Carter Co., KY) > married Addison Carl TABOR (b.4/20/1823 in VA d.6/8/1902 in Carter Co., > KY) > on 2/1/1841 in Carter Co., KY. Addison's parents were Basil Moab TABOR > and > Nancy JACKSON. > > Addison and Matilda had one son that I know of, Napoleon Bonaparte TABOR > (b.1/27/1842 d.3/31/1877, both in Carter Co., KY) who married Frances > DEHART > (b. 1.24.1841 in Adair Co., KY d.5/28/1916 unkn). They married > 3/25/1863 in > Adair Co., KY. They had two kids (that I know of): Jemimah Jane > (b.12.15.1864 d.3/15/1896 both in Carter Co., KY) and Sally M > (b.4/2/1871 in > Adair Co., KY). Jemimah married Richard A. BOND and Sally married his > brother Ephriam BOND. > > Hope that helps a little. > > Keith Winkelman > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Bryant [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors > Importance: High > > 10/07/04 > > Hello everyone: > > I'm new at this so bear with me. I am looking for information on the > Messers & Tabors of Carter County. Mr. Randy Jackson has helped me > greatly with my Messer side. From him I found the following: > > Father - Lavern Messer bn. 1928 Carter Cty. > Grandfather John Edward Messer bn. 1896 Knoxville, TN > Great Grandfather Thomas Jefferson Messer bn. 1835 Knox Cty. KY > Great Great Grandfather Benjamin Messer born 1800 Wythe County VA > Great Great Great Grandfather John Messer born 1755 Edgefield Cty, SC > John Messer fought in the Revolutionary War and was given land in Knox > Cty. Ky as payment. > Great Great Great Great Grandfather James Messer bn in 1735 in Edgefield > Cty., SC > > My Great Grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Messer married Emily Dawson in > 1858. He married Laura Mullins in 1890. I'm trying to find out when > Jefferson Messer died and where he is buried. Grandpa Messer said he > grew up in Leon near Grayson. > > My Grandfather John Edward Messer married Ethel Tabor. Ethel's father > was Jasper Tabor of Olive Hill. I understand that my Great Grandmother > on the Tabor side was a full blooded Cherokee. > > Any info regarding either side would be helpful. > > Thank you. > > Sue Messer Bryant > Greenville, SC > > > > > ==== KYCARTER Mailing List ==== > List Mom for KYCARTER: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 -----Original Message----- From: Keith Winkelman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors Laverne, Thanks again for the listings for the Tabors. Could you also send the listing for Robert Henderson and his family? - you said was 2 spaces above. In addition, could you include the page, line, and family numbers if they're available? I find I'm missing that census entry for Robert. Thank you so much in advance, Keith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 3:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors I have the following from the 1850 federal census records: 1850 - District #2, Carter Co., KY TABOR, Addison, 27, farmer, $300, b. KY; Matilda, 29, b. 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Lorene, This is a very small part of a file that was sent to me from Robbie Carroll, my second cousin. He's the son of my cousin Annel (Annie) Messer who is the daughter of Shirley Messer, son of John Edward Messer. However, the file is very extensive and came from Cassie Sommers and her years of research. I think this is her email address: [email protected] Cassie will be able to help you since she's an expert and I'm just starting. Sue First Generation ¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥ 1. John Messer. Born abt 1755 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. John died in Knox County, Kentucky. Prior to 1790, John Messer lived in Virginia and was in Edgefield, South Carolina. He was also in Wythe County, Virginia after 1794. He was awarded land in Kentucky for his service in the American Revolutionary War. Virgina 1790 census page 106, John Messer 5 Males 1 female South Carolina 1790 census page 65, John Messer 1 male over 16, 4 males under 16, 1 female North Carolina 1790 census page 147, John Messer 4 males under 16, family group matches. "Darlington County Memorialized Records", The South Carolina Magizine of Ancestral Research, Volume VII, 1979, page 74-75. An Administration on the Estate of John MESSERs granted to Benjamin WRIGHT Junior, May Intermediate Court 1794. Securitys to bond Jacob BUCKHOLT and David GOODWIN, penalty One hundred pounds Sterling. From: "Messer, Carroll" <[email protected]> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Subject: Messer Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:23:20 -0500 Our earliest known Messers apparently came through the Cumberland Gap in about 1780 and settled in the upper hollows of the Cumberland River in Knox County, in southeastern Kentucky. This first settlement was along Stinking Creek and probably near the small village of Walker. Several of the creeks which formed the hollows of this section of the Cumberland River Valley over the eons are frequently repeated in stories of the Messers. Stinking Creek, Turkey Creek Fighting Creek, and Trace Branch were often named in the stories that my grandmother Julia Fortney-Messer often told me about "back in Kentucky." After driving up Turkey Creek and Fortney Branch during August of 1988, I can better appreciate how each was its own little community but yet how close they all really were to one another. A map of Knox County, Kentucky is most helpful in tracing the history of the Messers. Using a detailed highway department county map, one can locate many of the creeks, villages and cemeteries that are so important to the Ambrose Messer Family Tree as I know it. Apparently this part of Knox County was a part of Clay County in the early 1800's. My tree of genealogy says that Ambrose Messer was my grandfather's grandfather of the same name. I have seen a picture of a backwoods elderly man setting on the porch of his home and holding a Bible with his wife standing beside him. I was told that this was Ambrose, a lay Christian preacher of his time. I now believe that Pearl Powell of Belzonia, OK had this picture and perhaps many more; I will soon check about this point. The name Ambrose is appropriate since St. Ambrose was a 3rd-Century religious libertarian from Italy--perhaps the forerunner of Roger Williams and Thomas Jefferson. The Messers also have tended to name some of their children after their grandparents. Abt 1789 John married Agnes Unknown, in South Carolina. Born abt 1755 in virginia. Agnes died in Knox County, Kentucky. Agnes Unknown lived in Virginia and in South Carolina. Later she lived in Knox County, Kentucky. They had the following children: 2 i. William (~1782-) 3 ii. John (1786-1824) 4 iii. Stephen Dillard (1788->1860) 5 iv. Jacob (1790-) 6 v. Moses (1790->1870) 7 vi. Sarah (1793-) 8 vii. Sion (1794-1857) 9 viii. Prudence (1797-) 10 ix. Benjamin (~1800->1860) 11 x. Son (~1802-) 12 xi. Samuel (1804-1837) -----Original Message----- From: Lorene [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYCARTER] Re: KYCARTER-D Digest V04 #103 Sue, Do you have the land warrant from the Revolutionary War for John Messer,or know where I can get the record? I don't find his name in the KY. land warrants from the Revolutionary War. On Friday, October 8, 2004, at 02:03 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Content-Type: text/plain > > KYCARTER-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 103 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Looking for information on the Mes ["Sue Bryant" > <[email protected]>] > #2 RE: [KYCARTER] Looking for informa ["Keith Winkelman" > <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from KYCARTER-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #1 > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:11:15 -0400 > From: "Sue Bryant" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > > 10/07/04 > > Hello everyone: > > I'm new at this so bear with me. I am looking for information on the > Messers & Tabors of Carter County. Mr. Randy Jackson has helped me > greatly with my Messer side. From him I found the following: > > Father - Lavern Messer bn. 1928 Carter Cty. > Grandfather John Edward Messer bn. 1896 Knoxville, TN > Great Grandfather Thomas Jefferson Messer bn. 1835 Knox Cty. KY > Great Great Grandfather Benjamin Messer born 1800 Wythe County VA > Great Great Great Grandfather John Messer born 1755 Edgefield Cty, SC > John Messer fought in the Revolutionary War and was given land in Knox > Cty. Ky as payment. > Great Great Great Great Grandfather James Messer bn in 1735 in Edgefield > Cty., SC > > My Great Grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Messer married Emily Dawson in > 1858. He married Laura Mullins in 1890. I'm trying to find out when > Jefferson Messer died and where he is buried. Grandpa Messer said he > grew up in Leon near Grayson. > > My Grandfather John Edward Messer married Ethel Tabor. Ethel's father > was Jasper Tabor of Olive Hill. I understand that my Great Grandmother > on the Tabor side was a full blooded Cherokee. > > Any info regarding either side would be helpful. > > Thank you. > > Sue Messer Bryant > Greenville, SC > > > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #2 > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 21:54:52 -0700 > From: "Keith Winkelman" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Sue, > I have some Tabors in my tree. Might be related because mine are in > Olive > Hill as well. They're offline from me but you never know. Here goes: > > My gggg grandfather was George Washington HENDERSON. His brother, James > Alexander HENDERSON (b.7/6/1784 in PA, d.6/24/1866 in Olive Hill, KY) > married Nancy Jane (Jennie) MILLER in Olive Hill. Their daughter > Matilda > HENDERSON (b.3/13/1821 in Greenup Co., KY, d.2/1/1872 in Carter Co., KY) > married Addison Carl TABOR (b.4/20/1823 in VA d.6/8/1902 in Carter Co., > KY) > on 2/1/1841 in Carter Co., KY. Addison's parents were Basil Moab TABOR > and > Nancy JACKSON. > > Addison and Matilda had one son that I know of, Napoleon Bonaparte TABOR > (b.1/27/1842 d.3/31/1877, both in Carter Co., KY) who married Frances > DEHART > (b. 1.24.1841 in Adair Co., KY d.5/28/1916 unkn). They married > 3/25/1863 in > Adair Co., KY. They had two kids (that I know of): Jemimah Jane > (b.12.15.1864 d.3/15/1896 both in Carter Co., KY) and Sally M > (b.4/2/1871 in > Adair Co., KY). Jemimah married Richard A. BOND and Sally married his > brother Ephriam BOND. > > Hope that helps a little. > > Keith Winkelman > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Bryant [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors > Importance: High > > 10/07/04 > > Hello everyone: > > I'm new at this so bear with me. I am looking for information on the > Messers & Tabors of Carter County. Mr. Randy Jackson has helped me > greatly with my Messer side. From him I found the following: > > Father - Lavern Messer bn. 1928 Carter Cty. > Grandfather John Edward Messer bn. 1896 Knoxville, TN > Great Grandfather Thomas Jefferson Messer bn. 1835 Knox Cty. KY > Great Great Grandfather Benjamin Messer born 1800 Wythe County VA > Great Great Great Grandfather John Messer born 1755 Edgefield Cty, SC > John Messer fought in the Revolutionary War and was given land in Knox > Cty. Ky as payment. > Great Great Great Great Grandfather James Messer bn in 1735 in Edgefield > Cty., SC > > My Great Grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Messer married Emily Dawson in > 1858. He married Laura Mullins in 1890. I'm trying to find out when > Jefferson Messer died and where he is buried. Grandpa Messer said he > grew up in Leon near Grayson. > > My Grandfather John Edward Messer married Ethel Tabor. Ethel's father > was Jasper Tabor of Olive Hill. I understand that my Great Grandmother > on the Tabor side was a full blooded Cherokee. > > Any info regarding either side would be helpful. > > Thank you. > > Sue Messer Bryant > Greenville, SC > > > > > ==== KYCARTER Mailing List ==== > List Mom for KYCARTER: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Having no response to the "Adams, Large, Lyon" information I posted, I thought I would try again with another family line: The GREEN family. This family descends from Giles Green (b. 1799 VA) who came to KY about 1827. My great-great grandfather, his oldest child, Thomas Large was born 1820 in Virginia and died in Lawrence County, Kentucky. One of Thomas's sons was my great-grandfather, and apparently made his home, at least part of the time in the old home place of Thomas. This was Harmon or Harman Green (1856-1928), who married Mary Elizabeth Webb(1861-1936), d/o Wesley Webb and Abigail Pennington, of near Webbville. I am looking for information on Harman and Mary, and on their children. Some I know about: my grandfather Wm. Thomas who married Bertha Wright; Mollie Green who married Will Wright, brother of Bertha, Beecher who lived in the old homeplace, where two of his daughters still live. In particular, I am interested in information on Harmon's work for the EK Railroad and on the following children: NORA GREEN, b. JULY 24, 1881, Lawrence Co., KY; d. January 6,1967; m. CHARLES "CHARLIE" PENNINGTON, b. ca 1878, s/o LEWIS PRESTON PENNINGTON and FRANCES YATES; d. November 17, 1946. DORA GREEN, b. March 6, 1883, Lawrence Co., KY; d. September 21, 1933; m. 1st ANDREW JOHNSON; m. 2nd JAMES "JIM" BAYS; 2 children; m. 3rd FRED NORTON; 5 children. ROSA GREEN, b. June 1, 1888, Lawrence Co., KY; d. before 1975; m. OSCAR REEVES, b. before 1887; 11 children. EVERETT GREEN, b. August 07, 1893; d. June 29, 1970; m. LUCY YATES. HERBERT ARNOLD GREEN, b. March 7,1903; d. March 6, 1968 MINNIE MAE GREEN, b. May 1, 1905; d. before 2000; m.1st 01 January 1922, Blaze Branch, Carter Co., KY to WILLIAM ELLIS GOLLIHUE, b. 17 August 1902 in Willard, Carter Co., KY, d. 23 July 1967 in Franklin Furnace, Scioto Co., OH. ; m. 2nd EARL DELLOW (DILLON?). Now for the Alaska Tidbits: Fall is definitely in full swing here, with many of the leaves already gone. It has been beautiful this year, with the fall colors more intense than usual. Moose season just ended with a count of 20 bulls taken. My son-in-law did not get one, but his father did. Chilkat River was full of fisherman as I went to and come home from church. The silver salmon are in their annual late run, and the Canadians are down in great numbers to take advantage of this. Eagles are beginning to gather along the river, as the late run of silvers means a feast for them. In another month, Haines will host the Alaska Bald Eagle Festival with people from all over coming to view the thousands of eagles congregated in an area of a few miles, most of which parallels the highway, making for easy viewing. The mountains are white-topped as the snow season approaches. We usually have our first snow about the 20th of October, with snow on the ground for the winter before the first of November. Right ! now, I'm trying to get the garden and flowers ready for winter, and the spring bulbs planted. Come visit! Frankie

Laverne, Thanks again for the listings for the Tabors. Could you also send the listing for Robert Henderson and his family? - you said was 2 spaces above. In addition, could you include the page, line, and family numbers if they're available? I find I'm missing that census entry for Robert. Thank you so much in advance, Keith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 3:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors I have the following from the 1850 federal census records: 1850 - District #2, Carter Co., KY TABOR, Addison, 27, farmer, $300, b. KY; Matilda, 29, b. KY; Napolean, 8, Bazel, 4; Lafayette, 1/12; all b. KY (they were 2 spaces above Robert HENDERSON) TABOR, Bazel M., 51, farmer, b. VA; Nancy, b. VA; Adolphus, 20; Lilburn (m.), 25; Ira, 16, all b. VA (next-door to Addison TABOR, his son) Laverne Galeener-Moore

Sue, Do you have the land warrant from the Revolutionary War for John Messer,or know where I can get the record? I don't find his name in the KY. land warrants from the Revolutionary War. On Friday, October 8, 2004, at 02:03 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Content-Type: text/plain > > KYCARTER-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 103 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Looking for information on the Mes ["Sue Bryant" > <[email protected]>] > #2 RE: [KYCARTER] Looking for informa ["Keith Winkelman" > <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from KYCARTER-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #1 > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:11:15 -0400 > From: "Sue Bryant" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > > 10/07/04 > > Hello everyone: > > I'm new at this so bear with me. I am looking for information on the > Messers & Tabors of Carter County. Mr. Randy Jackson has helped me > greatly with my Messer side. From him I found the following: > > Father - Lavern Messer bn. 1928 Carter Cty. > Grandfather John Edward Messer bn. 1896 Knoxville, TN > Great Grandfather Thomas Jefferson Messer bn. 1835 Knox Cty. KY > Great Great Grandfather Benjamin Messer born 1800 Wythe County VA > Great Great Great Grandfather John Messer born 1755 Edgefield Cty, SC > John Messer fought in the Revolutionary War and was given land in Knox > Cty. Ky as payment. > Great Great Great Great Grandfather James Messer bn in 1735 in Edgefield > Cty., SC > > My Great Grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Messer married Emily Dawson in > 1858. He married Laura Mullins in 1890. I'm trying to find out when > Jefferson Messer died and where he is buried. Grandpa Messer said he > grew up in Leon near Grayson. > > My Grandfather John Edward Messer married Ethel Tabor. Ethel's father > was Jasper Tabor of Olive Hill. I understand that my Great Grandmother > on the Tabor side was a full blooded Cherokee. > > Any info regarding either side would be helpful. > > Thank you. > > Sue Messer Bryant > Greenville, SC > > > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #2 > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 21:54:52 -0700 > From: "Keith Winkelman" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Sue, > I have some Tabors in my tree. Might be related because mine are in > Olive > Hill as well. They're offline from me but you never know. Here goes: > > My gggg grandfather was George Washington HENDERSON. His brother, James > Alexander HENDERSON (b.7/6/1784 in PA, d.6/24/1866 in Olive Hill, KY) > married Nancy Jane (Jennie) MILLER in Olive Hill. Their daughter > Matilda > HENDERSON (b.3/13/1821 in Greenup Co., KY, d.2/1/1872 in Carter Co., KY) > married Addison Carl TABOR (b.4/20/1823 in VA d.6/8/1902 in Carter Co., > KY) > on 2/1/1841 in Carter Co., KY. Addison's parents were Basil Moab TABOR > and > Nancy JACKSON. > > Addison and Matilda had one son that I know of, Napoleon Bonaparte TABOR > (b.1/27/1842 d.3/31/1877, both in Carter Co., KY) who married Frances > DEHART > (b. 1.24.1841 in Adair Co., KY d.5/28/1916 unkn). They married > 3/25/1863 in > Adair Co., KY. They had two kids (that I know of): Jemimah Jane > (b.12.15.1864 d.3/15/1896 both in Carter Co., KY) and Sally M > (b.4/2/1871 in > Adair Co., KY). Jemimah married Richard A. BOND and Sally married his > brother Ephriam BOND. > > Hope that helps a little. > > Keith Winkelman > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Bryant [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors > Importance: High > > 10/07/04 > > Hello everyone: > > I'm new at this so bear with me. I am looking for information on the > Messers & Tabors of Carter County. Mr. Randy Jackson has helped me > greatly with my Messer side. From him I found the following: > > Father - Lavern Messer bn. 1928 Carter Cty. > Grandfather John Edward Messer bn. 1896 Knoxville, TN > Great Grandfather Thomas Jefferson Messer bn. 1835 Knox Cty. KY > Great Great Grandfather Benjamin Messer born 1800 Wythe County VA > Great Great Great Grandfather John Messer born 1755 Edgefield Cty, SC > John Messer fought in the Revolutionary War and was given land in Knox > Cty. Ky as payment. > Great Great Great Great Grandfather James Messer bn in 1735 in Edgefield > Cty., SC > > My Great Grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Messer married Emily Dawson in > 1858. He married Laura Mullins in 1890. I'm trying to find out when > Jefferson Messer died and where he is buried. Grandpa Messer said he > grew up in Leon near Grayson. > > My Grandfather John Edward Messer married Ethel Tabor. Ethel's father > was Jasper Tabor of Olive Hill. I understand that my Great Grandmother > on the Tabor side was a full blooded Cherokee. > > Any info regarding either side would be helpful. > > Thank you. > > Sue Messer Bryant > Greenville, SC > > > > > ==== KYCARTER Mailing List ==== > List Mom for KYCARTER: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Thanks, Laverne!! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 3:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors I have the following from the 1850 federal census records: 1850 - District #2, Carter Co., KY TABOR, Addison, 27, farmer, $300, b. KY; Matilda, 29, b. KY; Napolean, 8, Bazel, 4; Lafayette, 1/12; all b. KY (they were 2 spaces above Robert HENDERSON) TABOR, Bazel M., 51, farmer, b. VA; Nancy, b. VA; Adolphus, 20; Lilburn (m.), 25; Ira, 16, all b. VA (next-door to Addison TABOR, his son) Laverne Galeener-Moore ==== KYCARTER Mailing List ==== Hoaxes and Urban Legends on the Internet http://www.snopes.com/ <A HREF="http://www.snopes.com/">Snopes.com</a> ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I have the following from the 1850 federal census records: 1850 - District #2, Carter Co., KY TABOR, Addison, 27, farmer, $300, b. KY; Matilda, 29, b. KY; Napolean, 8, Bazel, 4; Lafayette, 1/12; all b. KY (they were 2 spaces above Robert HENDERSON) TABOR, Bazel M., 51, farmer, b. VA; Nancy, b. VA; Adolphus, 20; Lilburn (m.), 25; Ira, 16, all b. VA (next-door to Addison TABOR, his son) Laverne Galeener-Moore

Hey Keith, I don't even know enough yet to know if we're related. All I know was that Jasper Tabor, my Grandmother Ethel Messer's father, lived on Woodside in Olive Hill. Jasper had several sons, but one in particular named Lane was always in trouble. In fact, I understand from my cousin Sharon Sue Messer, that Lane caused Jasper to lose his money because Lane shot the sheriff and Jasper gave up everything to get him out of trouble. Sharon also told me the Tabors were merchants. I know that Ethel's mother was a Cherokee Indian - Uncle Cotton had it and she looked like she could go right thru you. The only thing Dad remembered about her was that she smoked a pipe. Mom mentioned something about my Great Grandmother being "captured". Don't know if that is correct or not. However, that would have been about the time the U. S. Government was moving the Cherokee nation from North Carolina. That's all I know about that side of the family. Thanks for your help. Will keep your info and continue to research. Sue -----Original Message----- From: Keith Winkelman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 12:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors Sue, I have some Tabors in my tree. Might be related because mine are in Olive Hill as well. They're offline from me but you never know. Here goes: My gggg grandfather was George Washington HENDERSON. His brother, James Alexander HENDERSON (b.7/6/1784 in PA, d.6/24/1866 in Olive Hill, KY) married Nancy Jane (Jennie) MILLER in Olive Hill. Their daughter Matilda HENDERSON (b.3/13/1821 in Greenup Co., KY, d.2/1/1872 in Carter Co., KY) married Addison Carl TABOR (b.4/20/1823 in VA d.6/8/1902 in Carter Co., KY) on 2/1/1841 in Carter Co., KY. Addison's parents were Basil Moab TABOR and Nancy JACKSON. Addison and Matilda had one son that I know of, Napoleon Bonaparte TABOR (b.1/27/1842 d.3/31/1877, both in Carter Co., KY) who married Frances DEHART (b. 1.24.1841 in Adair Co., KY d.5/28/1916 unkn). They married 3/25/1863 in Adair Co., KY. They had two kids (that I know of): Jemimah Jane (b.12.15.1864 d.3/15/1896 both in Carter Co., KY) and Sally M (b.4/2/1871 in Adair Co., KY). Jemimah married Richard A. BOND and Sally married his brother Ephriam BOND. Hope that helps a little. Keith Winkelman -----Original Message----- From: Sue Bryant [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors Importance: High 10/07/04 Hello everyone: I'm new at this so bear with me. I am looking for information on the Messers & Tabors of Carter County. Mr. Randy Jackson has helped me greatly with my Messer side. From him I found the following: Father - Lavern Messer bn. 1928 Carter Cty. Grandfather John Edward Messer bn. 1896 Knoxville, TN Great Grandfather Thomas Jefferson Messer bn. 1835 Knox Cty. KY Great Great Grandfather Benjamin Messer born 1800 Wythe County VA Great Great Great Grandfather John Messer born 1755 Edgefield Cty, SC John Messer fought in the Revolutionary War and was given land in Knox Cty. Ky as payment. Great Great Great Great Grandfather James Messer bn in 1735 in Edgefield Cty., SC My Great Grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Messer married Emily Dawson in 1858. He married Laura Mullins in 1890. I'm trying to find out when Jefferson Messer died and where he is buried. Grandpa Messer said he grew up in Leon near Grayson. My Grandfather John Edward Messer married Ethel Tabor. Ethel's father was Jasper Tabor of Olive Hill. I understand that my Great Grandmother on the Tabor side was a full blooded Cherokee. Any info regarding either side would be helpful. Thank you. Sue Messer Bryant Greenville, SC ==== KYCARTER Mailing List ==== List Mom for KYCARTER: Diana Boothe [email protected] ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ==== KYCARTER Mailing List ==== We have archives! Search for your KYCARTER information here..... http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYCARTER ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Sue, I have some Tabors in my tree. Might be related because mine are in Olive Hill as well. They're offline from me but you never know. Here goes: My gggg grandfather was George Washington HENDERSON. His brother, James Alexander HENDERSON (b.7/6/1784 in PA, d.6/24/1866 in Olive Hill, KY) married Nancy Jane (Jennie) MILLER in Olive Hill. Their daughter Matilda HENDERSON (b.3/13/1821 in Greenup Co., KY, d.2/1/1872 in Carter Co., KY) married Addison Carl TABOR (b.4/20/1823 in VA d.6/8/1902 in Carter Co., KY) on 2/1/1841 in Carter Co., KY. Addison's parents were Basil Moab TABOR and Nancy JACKSON. Addison and Matilda had one son that I know of, Napoleon Bonaparte TABOR (b.1/27/1842 d.3/31/1877, both in Carter Co., KY) who married Frances DEHART (b. 1.24.1841 in Adair Co., KY d.5/28/1916 unkn). They married 3/25/1863 in Adair Co., KY. They had two kids (that I know of): Jemimah Jane (b.12.15.1864 d.3/15/1896 both in Carter Co., KY) and Sally M (b.4/2/1871 in Adair Co., KY). Jemimah married Richard A. BOND and Sally married his brother Ephriam BOND. Hope that helps a little. Keith Winkelman -----Original Message----- From: Sue Bryant [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYCARTER] Looking for information on the Messers & Tabors Importance: High 10/07/04 Hello everyone: I'm new at this so bear with me. I am looking for information on the Messers & Tabors of Carter County. Mr. Randy Jackson has helped me greatly with my Messer side. From him I found the following: Father - Lavern Messer bn. 1928 Carter Cty. Grandfather John Edward Messer bn. 1896 Knoxville, TN Great Grandfather Thomas Jefferson Messer bn. 1835 Knox Cty. KY Great Great Grandfather Benjamin Messer born 1800 Wythe County VA Great Great Great Grandfather John Messer born 1755 Edgefield Cty, SC John Messer fought in the Revolutionary War and was given land in Knox Cty. Ky as payment. Great Great Great Great Grandfather James Messer bn in 1735 in Edgefield Cty., SC My Great Grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Messer married Emily Dawson in 1858. He married Laura Mullins in 1890. I'm trying to find out when Jefferson Messer died and where he is buried. Grandpa Messer said he grew up in Leon near Grayson. My Grandfather John Edward Messer married Ethel Tabor. Ethel's father was Jasper Tabor of Olive Hill. I understand that my Great Grandmother on the Tabor side was a full blooded Cherokee. Any info regarding either side would be helpful. Thank you. Sue Messer Bryant Greenville, SC ==== KYCARTER Mailing List ==== List Mom for KYCARTER: Diana Boothe [email protected] ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

10/07/04 Hello everyone: I'm new at this so bear with me. I am looking for information on the Messers & Tabors of Carter County. Mr. Randy Jackson has helped me greatly with my Messer side. From him I found the following: Father - Lavern Messer bn. 1928 Carter Cty. Grandfather John Edward Messer bn. 1896 Knoxville, TN Great Grandfather Thomas Jefferson Messer bn. 1835 Knox Cty. KY Great Great Grandfather Benjamin Messer born 1800 Wythe County VA Great Great Great Grandfather John Messer born 1755 Edgefield Cty, SC John Messer fought in the Revolutionary War and was given land in Knox Cty. Ky as payment. Great Great Great Great Grandfather James Messer bn in 1735 in Edgefield Cty., SC My Great Grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Messer married Emily Dawson in 1858. He married Laura Mullins in 1890. I'm trying to find out when Jefferson Messer died and where he is buried. Grandpa Messer said he grew up in Leon near Grayson. My Grandfather John Edward Messer married Ethel Tabor. Ethel's father was Jasper Tabor of Olive Hill. I understand that my Great Grandmother on the Tabor side was a full blooded Cherokee. Any info regarding either side would be helpful. Thank you. Sue Messer Bryant Greenville, SC

It has been quite some time since I have been able to update Tombstone Central. With the boys in School, Scouts, Soccer, not to mention me working and coaching soccer and the cubmaster for scouts then there is the everyday living such as finding time to eat and sleep. :-) At any rate a big thank you to all who have help donate cemetery photos. The following cemeteries have been added to Tombstone Central. Carter County Cemeteries Caroll Cemetery on Rattlesnake Ridge Hedge Cemetery on James Chapel Road Tacket Buckler Cemetery on James Chapel Road Knox County Cemeteries Farley Cemetery in Himyar Mealer Cemetery in Barbourville Happy Hunting, Cassy. PS Tombstone Cental can be located by going to any search engine and typing in the words "Tombstone Central" by looking for the site this way it keeps us number one and then easy for everyone to locate :-) -- 1. Perhaps they are not stars but rather openings which our loved ones can shine down on us. 2. Did you know in Kentucky it is illegal for a woman to marry the same man four times? 3. A law in Kentucky also forbids a housewife to move the furniture in the home without her husbands consent. TOMBSTONE CENTRAL http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~foe3643/

I don't know if tis will help but I have a bunch of info on his wife Mary Jane Henderson and her ancestors. Just follow the link below. Darrell You can see my entire family tree posted at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~warner/surnames.htm For my current e-mail address go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~archreg/vols/00001.html#0000008

Suggest you look for any real estate deed records with Milton's name on them. Property disposed of after his death might have the names of relatives who were his heirs on the deed. John Grace Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 08:42:15 -0700 From: "victoria gibson" To: Subject: Milton Williams Still trying to find a clue or information to unravel my brick wall. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!!! Being a doctor, wouldn't there be some where or way to find out more about Him????? Milton Williams born 1819 Kentucky -died 1890 Carter Co., Ky. Occupation: Physician Married 1- Elizabeth ? Daughter Amanda Frances born 1842 Carter Co., Ky. near Olive Hill. Married 2. Mary Jane Henderson 1866 Carter Co.Ky. 1870 census Carter Co. Milton age 51 Physician born Ky. Mary 25 born Ky. 1880 census Milton Williams married 2 61 yrs.old Physician Father born Kentucky Mother Virginia __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Still trying to find a clue or information to unravel my brick wall. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!!! Being a doctor, wouldn't there be some where or way to find out more about Him????? Milton Williams born 1819 Kentucky -died 1890 Carter Co., Ky. Occupation: Physician Married 1- Elizabeth ? Daughter Amanda Frances born 1842 Carter Co., Ky. near Olive Hill. Married 2. Mary Jane Henderson 1866 Carter Co.Ky. 1870 census Carter Co. Milton age 51 Physician born Ky. Mary 25 born Ky. 1880 census Milton Williams married 2 61 yrs.old Physician Father born Kentucky Mother Virginia

Seeking death date and burial place for J. T. Binion. Jim was his name. He was living in Olive Hill in 1915 with his wife Nancy. Thanks, Lydia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:00 PM Subject: KYCARTER-D Digest V04 #99

I wish to contact five Waugh children from Greenup County: Marjorie, Darlene, Philip, Jeff and Frank who were first children to live at the original Ramey Home in Catlettsburg in 1942. Thanks, Lydia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:00 PM Subject: KYCARTER-D Digest V04 #97

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