Or Phillip and Willie are the same person. Nice work Sandy. Ronda -----Original Message----- From: kycarrol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kycarrol-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 8:03 AM To: Sandy Jeffrey; kycarrol@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCARROL] LaFontaine I have found the family in 1900, Carroll County, KY. The last name has been transcribed by ancestry as Lagarte, and looks, to me, like LaFante on the actual census. It shows Nick as the head of family, born Aug 1857, Mrs N born Jun 1853; Louise born Jul 1884; Flora; born Mar 1886; John born Dec 1888; Caroline born May 1889; and Willie born Aug 1891. I have found there are many age errors on the censuses, so I don't worry about the dates. Also, many people go by the middle name so I believe Louise is your grandmother. The census shows Nick and his wife were married 17 years and had 5 children, all living. It would appear that Phillip is not a son of this wife. It is possible he died as an infant and wasn't included in the total of children. Good luck with your research. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Jeffrey Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:56 PM To: KYCARROL@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCARROL] LaFontaine hello to everyone. I would like to introduce my family heritage and the reason for subscribing to this message board. I have been researching my family and it has taken me to Carrollton Ky. Nicholas (Nicolaui) Lafontaine is my 2nd great- grandfather - he was born about 1858 in Ohio and lived in Carrollton Ky and in Cincinnati Oh. He died May 6 1904 and is buried in St. John's Cemetery along with his wife Catherine Mueller- she was born June 20 1849 in Dover Ky and died Dec 4 1936 in Norwood Ohio. I have found 7 children and 6 I have birth and death dates and their spouses but one eludes me - Phillipum (Phillip) Lafontaine. I show a birth of Sept 15 1891 but cannot find anything else. Phillips siblings are Clara Margaretha 1883 - 1884; Mary (Maria) Louise 1884 - 1996 (my grandmother) ; Julia Florian (Flora) 1886 -1971; John August 1887 - 1965; Caroline M 1889 - 1973; William Nicholas 1891-1972 If anyone has information on this family and have dates for Phillip, I would appreciate the information. If this is your line of family and you need some information, I may be able to help also. Thanks. Death Living Sandy Attitude is a choice, and I choose not to have one. Happiness rules! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCARROL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCARROL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the complement....Your suggestion is a good one. They definitely could be the same person. Sandy (Winkler) I should have put that on my first message since we are both Sandys! -----Original Message----- From: Ronda Howard Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:44 AM To: kycarrol@rootsweb.com ; 'Sandy Jeffrey' Subject: Re: [KYCARROL] LaFontaine Or Phillip and Willie are the same person. Nice work Sandy. Ronda -----Original Message----- From: kycarrol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kycarrol-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 8:03 AM To: Sandy Jeffrey; kycarrol@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCARROL] LaFontaine I have found the family in 1900, Carroll County, KY. The last name has been transcribed by ancestry as Lagarte, and looks, to me, like LaFante on the actual census. It shows Nick as the head of family, born Aug 1857, Mrs N born Jun 1853; Louise born Jul 1884; Flora; born Mar 1886; John born Dec 1888; Caroline born May 1889; and Willie born Aug 1891. I have found there are many age errors on the censuses, so I don't worry about the dates. Also, many people go by the middle name so I believe Louise is your grandmother. The census shows Nick and his wife were married 17 years and had 5 children, all living. It would appear that Phillip is not a son of this wife. It is possible he died as an infant and wasn't included in the total of children. Good luck with your research. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Jeffrey Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:56 PM To: KYCARROL@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCARROL] LaFontaine hello to everyone. I would like to introduce my family heritage and the reason for subscribing to this message board. I have been researching my family and it has taken me to Carrollton Ky. Nicholas (Nicolaui) Lafontaine is my 2nd great- grandfather - he was born about 1858 in Ohio and lived in Carrollton Ky and in Cincinnati Oh. He died May 6 1904 and is buried in St. John's Cemetery along with his wife Catherine Mueller- she was born June 20 1849 in Dover Ky and died Dec 4 1936 in Norwood Ohio. I have found 7 children and 6 I have birth and death dates and their spouses but one eludes me - Phillipum (Phillip) Lafontaine. I show a birth of Sept 15 1891 but cannot find anything else. Phillips siblings are Clara Margaretha 1883 - 1884; Mary (Maria) Louise 1884 - 1996 (my grandmother) ; Julia Florian (Flora) 1886 -1971; John August 1887 - 1965; Caroline M 1889 - 1973; William Nicholas 1891-1972 If anyone has information on this family and have dates for Phillip, I would appreciate the information. If this is your line of family and you need some information, I may be able to help also. Thanks. Death Living Sandy Attitude is a choice, and I choose not to have one. Happiness rules! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCARROL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCARROL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCARROL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

 sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees! thanks for all the response.  I have to say that I did make a mistake.  Mary Louise Lafontaine is my Great Grandmother not my grandmother.  Her daughter Ethel was my grandmother. Mary Louise Lafontaine (Jul 15 1885 - Nov 10 1986)  married Frank  A Williams (Nov 22 1883 - Nov 10 1952)  on Nov 19 1904  in Hamilton County Ohio.  Their daughter Ethel C Williams (Aug 31, 1905 - Nov 23 1981) married Joseph Ross Wise and their daughter Janet Marie ( Feb 14 1929 - Nov 2 1993) was my mother. Did you notice that Mary Louise and her husband Frank A died on the the month and day?  Back to Phillipum Lafontaine - there is a record of a christening on Sept 30 1891 in Carrollton Ky   - I can't find a record of birth or death but it seems that a christening is done soon after a birth  - I don't seem to have record of birth, I may have gotten it from a relative's family tree I am going to check on that.     William Nicholas - all his records list his birth on Aug 15 1891 - death, military, marriage Nicholas and Catherine did have one child die early and that was Clara Margaretha - born Jan 17 1883 and died Aug 1 1884  - her grave marker just says 2 years old   She was buried  Aug 8 1884 at St . John's Cemetery in Carrollton Ky If anyone knows how I can find online birth records for Carrollton Ky, please let me know.  Phillip is the only one I don't have a death date for.  But it is odd that William Nicholas Lafontaine shows Aug 15 1891.  Could they have been twins? Sandy ________________________________ From: Ronda Howard <whizinc@comcast.net> To: kycarrol@rootsweb.com; 'Sandy Jeffrey' <swtcheek6295@att.net> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [KYCARROL] LaFontaine Or Phillip and Willie are the same person. Nice work Sandy. Ronda -----Original Message----- From: kycarrol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kycarrol-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 8:03 AM To: Sandy Jeffrey; kycarrol@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYCARROL] LaFontaine I have found the family in 1900, Carroll County, KY.  The last name has been transcribed by ancestry as Lagarte, and looks, to me, like LaFante on the actual census.  It shows Nick as the head of family, born Aug 1857, Mrs N born Jun 1853; Louise born Jul 1884; Flora; born Mar 1886; John born Dec 1888; Caroline born May 1889; and Willie born Aug 1891.  I have found there are many age errors on the censuses, so I don't worry about the dates. Also, many people go by the middle name so I believe Louise is your grandmother. The census shows Nick and his  wife were married 17 years and had 5 children, all living.  It would appear that Phillip is not a son of this wife. It is possible he died as an infant and wasn't included in the total of children. Good luck with your research. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Jeffrey Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:56 PM To: KYCARROL@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYCARROL] LaFontaine hello to everyone. I would like to introduce my family heritage and the reason for subscribing to this message board. I have been researching my family and it has taken me to Carrollton Ky. Nicholas (Nicolaui) Lafontaine is my 2nd great- grandfather - he was born about 1858 in Ohio and lived in Carrollton Ky and in Cincinnati Oh. He died May 6 1904 and is buried in St. John's Cemetery along with his wife Catherine Mueller- she was born June 20 1849 in Dover Ky and died Dec 4 1936 in Norwood Ohio. I have found 7 children and 6 I have  birth and death dates  and their spouses but one eludes me - Phillipum (Phillip) Lafontaine.  I show a birth of Sept 15 1891 but cannot find anything else. Phillips siblings are Clara Margaretha 1883 - 1884;  Mary (Maria) Louise 1884 - 1996 (my great grandmother) ;  Julia Florian (Flora) 1886 -1971; John August 1887 - 1965; Caroline M 1889 - 1973;  William Nicholas 1891-1972 If anyone has information on this family and have dates for Phillip, I would appreciate the information.  If this is your line of family and you need some information, I may be able to help also. Thanks. Sandy Attitude is a choice, and I choose not to have one. Happiness rules! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCARROL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYCARROL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message