That is good advice, we had others with us waiting right at the entrance but I bet they would not have come in that cave to save their lives...or ours. Once inside, I was a pretty big chicken myself. We just had one of those cheap flashlights. Yep, my curiosity was quelled real quickly! Another thing girls, there are SNAKES in these parts. Copperheads..........we'd have to get some of the guys to go with us. My dad is deathly afraid of snakes and when we were kids he wouldn't take us up to Hunter's Bluff except early spring or late fall. The cave that I mentioned by the gravel pit is now marked no trespassing. I believe the sign is posted not at the cave but just around the gravel pit road. I said it was out by French Spring Hollow, does anyone know this area, or ever hear it called that? I could not find this name at the USGS site. Maybe I have the name wrong or it has been renamed. thanks, Vicki