-----Original Message----- From: Kenneth E. Gilkey [mailto:kengilke@evansville.net] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 5:50 PM To: trice@vci.net; KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com; KYLYON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: RE: OBITS [snip] Webster's says ; author, noun, a person who WRITES a novel, poem, essay, etc: the COMPOSER of a literary work, AS DISTINGUISED FROM a compiler, translator, editor, or copyist. Like I said in my letter, I am not the AUTHOR of the obits and deeply resent the notion that I am some sort of idiot in stating so. Would it be asking too much that ones name be listed as submitter not AUTHOR? My apologies... I did not intend to imply that you were some sort of an idiot. Good point. I'll forward your suggestion to the developers. I followed the link "about us" that you sent and you are right, it readily explains the position of Myfamily.com completely and calls one who posts a submitter. But if you go directly to the Caldwell Co Ancestry Message Board and find "about us" on that page, please tell me where. My deepest apologies once again... I guess I said 'About Us'... instead, go to any board and click on the 'Copyright' link at the very bottom of the page. I did not mean to mis-speak or mislead and I beg your forgiveness. nt Respectfully, Ken G. \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr **********************************************************************

Nancy Trice, My hat is off to you and all the other folks who had the foresight to start the Genweb project, and believe me, I am so proud of the Caldwell & Lyon Co. Genweb home pages!!! But, irregardless of all the "new" concepts being added, concerning my quote about not being the AUTHOR... Webster's says ; author, noun, a person who WRITES a novel, poem, essay, etc: the COMPOSER of a literary work, AS DISTINGUISED FROM a compiler, translator, editor, or copyist. Like I said in my letter, I am not the AUTHOR of the obits and deeply resent the notion that I am some sort of idiot in stating so. Would it be asking too much that ones name be listed as submitter not AUTHOR? I have no objection to my name being listed as submitter of the obits or my email being listed alongside. I have received mail from Australia, New Zealand, etc, concerning obits I have posted. I think that part of the story is pretty neat!! I followed the link "about us" that you sent and you are right, it readily explains the position of Myfamily.com completely and calls one who posts a submitter. But if you go directly to the Caldwell Co Ancestry Message Board and find "about us" on that page, please tell me where. Respectfully, Ken G. \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr **********************************************************************

If I may be so bold as to say something here... I am not bragging here, but stating facts... I am one of the folks that helped to start KyGenWeb; I am state coordinator for Ky and have been since Aug 1996 when Jeff stepped down; I have the Hopkins Co website, and am one of the 2 people who started GenConnect 4+ years ago. I set up the first orphan county websites in USGenWeb in 1996. I was the first state coordinator for Colorado and Kansas [am still listed as asst in Ks], and the first state coordinator for all 3 states for the Archives. There are few people who have been as involved with USGenWeb as I have been for as long as I have been. I am also on staff at RootsWeb/Ancestry. [The person in charge at RootsWeb, Jake Gehring, is also a county coordinator in another state. ;-) ] One of the most requested tools that has been asked for over the past 4+ years by GenConnect users and admins alike was a way to easily see what they have posted and where and EASILY update their addy themselves. With the new boards this is now all available. It is only possible however with a central database to hold the addys used to post. This database contains only your username and addy... no other identifying information is asked for. This username can be anything you want it to be... it doesn't have to be your own name. It does have to be a valid email address. This is completely seperate from any Ancestry subscription username etc. I have an Ancestry subscription. I also have several other usernames set up to use for my boards I admin and those that I don't. Boards for other types of data... census, marriages, etc have been requested by you since the beginning of GenConnect. While all the boards have been combined into 1 board now, the drop down list has added several new classifications for messages, both for posting and easy searching. You [users and admins] have requested that one other classification also be added - queries - so that only queries can be included in a search, and this is being considered and I think is going to be implemented soon. One of the other things that we [GenConnect] wanted to do was to make it difficult for the spammers to harvest the email addys of our posters, and we have done that as well. RootsWeb promised 5+ years ago that anything we placed on their server would be available free to the public. Nothing has changed in that regard. Ancestry's position is that anything they receive for free is given for free. I don't see that they have done anything to change that. Read this for yourself on their website: http://www.myfamilyinc.com/about_us/copyright.htm That page is linked to on every single board. I honestly don't know how it can be stated any plainer than what they have said on that page. As with any new program there are some bugs and staff is working hard to get them fixed. Ken said: One problem of my posting is Ancestry is listing me as "AUTHOR" of these obits. I am NOT the author of these obits. The "AUTHOR" is the person that posted the message. We know there is a bug in the software that is not showing this correctly in some cases and it is on our list of things to fix. It is not as important an issue however as some of the other bugs.. but it will get fixed soon. ;-) Staff has also asked for a way for you to post the obits etc without the message having a link to your name/addy and I believe that is also going to be implemented, but it might be a few weeks or so. Betty is also correct in that county coordinators are free to use whatever system they want to use for their county queries and data and as state coordinator for KyGenWeb, I stand behind her in her decision to use her own system, just as Pat Oliver has done for his counties since the very beginning. I hope this answers some of the questions and concerns. None of us like change, but change is inevitable. ;-) Some of our Ky counties have seen 5 or 6 county coordinators over the past 5 years [I have personally seen your queries on several websites completely disappear when the coordinator left and took everything with them], and some, like most of the counties in Western Ky, including Caldwell [any my own county - Hopkins], have had only 1 extremely dedicated coordinator. Post your queries on whatever system is set up for each county and on the new message boards, for maximum exposure... and rest assured that your queries and data won't be sold just because it happens to be on RootsWeb. And give the new boards a chance folks... I really think you will like them once you learn your way around. At this point things are new, and staff is busy moving things around to get boards from 3 different systems merged into 1. ;-) Best, nt -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth E. Gilkey [mailto:kengilke@evansville.net] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 11:28 AM To: KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: OBITS Hi Listers, PLEASE READ THIS!!!!! To answer a couple of your questions, I am not the administrator of the Caldwell or Lyon Counties, Rootsweb/Ancestry pages. Vicki Stewart is the administrator of these pages. I have been posting obits to the Caldwell-Lyon pages for a year. This as you can imagine takes a lot of my volunteer time. I, as some of you have, gained a lot of valuable extended family information from these obits. Rootsweb has up until now been a free service, but with Ancestry.com as myfamily.com buying them, and now you have to register to place anything on these pages, I have the feeling they are going to eventually start charging for everything. "There is no such thing as a free lunch" I have spent over 2 hours this morning reading complaints on the Ancestry.com administrative message board. These concerns about the changeover and the services and also copyright concerns over the free service (Rootsweb) and a for profit entity (Ancestry. com), are troubling, not only for me, but for lots of other posters. Until Ancestry publishes their stand on some of these problems I will be reluctant to continue putting Obits on the list. I apoligize for the problems this may cause anyone, but until the problems are resolved with Ancestry and Rootsweb, I choose not to enter any more obits unless they are prior to 1923. One problem of my posting is Ancestry is listing me as "AUTHOR" of these obits. I am NOT the author of these obits. We will just have to set back and let all this "shake" out!!! Later Ken G. \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr ********************************************************************** *****Your kygenweb homepages are***** CALDWELL http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html LYON http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html ********************************************************************** ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== Don't hesitate, participate! ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Thank you for your post Ken - I'd also like to announce that Trigg County has a new query board that will be easy to find and easy to handle. It will be housed on my server and be managed by Trigg County itself. Trigg will continue to have a link to the Message Boards but we will have our 'personal' touch of county queries. I have not decided what I will do with the Sellers obituaries as yet. Most of them can be viewed on the Christian County Obituary page but you cannot add to them unless you post to me. There is a possibility that I will start a Trigg County Obituary Page... housed on my server.. Hope everyone understand's... I know GenConnect/RW/ and Ancestry.com feel they have done the right thing. However the UsGenWeb Home Pages are not required to use their server or use their boards. We are required to have a query page/board and we can put any up that we desire. Thank you for your time. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth E. Gilkey <kengilke@evansville.net> To: <KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 12:27 PM Subject: OBITS > Hi Listers, > > PLEASE READ THIS!!!!! > > To answer a couple of your questions, I am not the administrator of > the Caldwell or Lyon Counties, Rootsweb/Ancestry pages. Vicki > Stewart is the administrator of these pages. I have been posting > obits to the Caldwell-Lyon pages for a year. This as you can imagine > takes a lot of my volunteer time. > > I, as some of you have, gained a lot of valuable extended family > information from these obits. > > Rootsweb has up until now been a free service, but with Ancestry.com > as myfamily.com buying them, and now you have to register to place > anything on these pages, I have the feeling they are going to > eventually start charging for everything. > > "There is no such thing as a free lunch" > > I have spent over 2 hours this morning reading complaints on the > Ancestry.com administrative message board. These concerns about the > changeover and the services and also copyright concerns over the free > service (Rootsweb) and a for profit entity (Ancestry. com), are > troubling, not only for me, but for lots of other posters. > > Until Ancestry publishes their stand on some of these problems I will > be reluctant to continue putting Obits on the list. > > I apoligize for the problems this may cause anyone, but until the > problems are resolved with Ancestry and Rootsweb, I choose not to > enter any more obits unless they are prior to 1923. One problem of my > posting is Ancestry is listing me as "AUTHOR" of these obits. I am > NOT the author of these obits. > > We will just have to set back and let all this "shake" out!!! > > Later > Ken G. > > \\\|/// > \\ ~ ~ // > ( @ @ ) > ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr > ********************************************************************** > > *****Your kygenweb homepages are***** > > CALDWELL http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html > > LYON http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html > > ********************************************************************** > > > > ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== > Don't hesitate, participate! > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Hi Listers, PLEASE READ THIS!!!!! To answer a couple of your questions, I am not the administrator of the Caldwell or Lyon Counties, Rootsweb/Ancestry pages. Vicki Stewart is the administrator of these pages. I have been posting obits to the Caldwell-Lyon pages for a year. This as you can imagine takes a lot of my volunteer time. I, as some of you have, gained a lot of valuable extended family information from these obits. Rootsweb has up until now been a free service, but with Ancestry.com as myfamily.com buying them, and now you have to register to place anything on these pages, I have the feeling they are going to eventually start charging for everything. "There is no such thing as a free lunch" I have spent over 2 hours this morning reading complaints on the Ancestry.com administrative message board. These concerns about the changeover and the services and also copyright concerns over the free service (Rootsweb) and a for profit entity (Ancestry. com), are troubling, not only for me, but for lots of other posters. Until Ancestry publishes their stand on some of these problems I will be reluctant to continue putting Obits on the list. I apoligize for the problems this may cause anyone, but until the problems are resolved with Ancestry and Rootsweb, I choose not to enter any more obits unless they are prior to 1923. One problem of my posting is Ancestry is listing me as "AUTHOR" of these obits. I am NOT the author of these obits. We will just have to set back and let all this "shake" out!!! Later Ken G. \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr ********************************************************************** *****Your kygenweb homepages are***** CALDWELL http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html LYON http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html **********************************************************************

The Times Leader Princeton Kentucky June 20, 2001 Mrs. Grace Holt, 85, of Eddyville, died Monday, June 18th, 2001 at 5:25 p.m. at Rivers Bend Retirement Community in Kuttawa. A homemaker and member of Liberty Baptist Church in Lyon County, she was born in Caldwell County, a daughter of the late Enoch Henry and Sadie Virginia Stone Scott. She was preceded in death by her husband, D. T. Holt, in July 1998; five brothers; two half brothers; three sisters; and two great grandchildren. Survivors include two daughters, Sue Paul of Pineville, Louisiana, and Joyce Dorroh of Eddyville; 10 grandchildren; 16 great-grandchildren; a great-great-grandchild; and six sisters, Bessie George of Caldwell County, Eddith Vaught of North Carolina, Alma Patterson of Killene, Texas, Emma Oats of Jonesville, Va., Mildred Blakely of Sturgis, and Jettie Scott of Castleberry, Fla.. Funeral services will be conducted Saturday, June 23rd, at 1:00 p.m. at Lakeland Funeral Home Chapel in Eddyville with the Rev. Johnny Davis officiating. Burial will follow in Liberty Cemetery in Lyon County, Ky.

Hi Listers, Hope this is of some help to you.... The following URL is a direct link to the Caldwell Messages Board Page. If you copy and paste the whole address (both lines at once) no breaks, into your address browser at the top of the page, then after you press go and get into the page, add it as a favorite or bookmark... Lyon Listers substitute lyon instead of caldwell in address.... http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam. usa.states.kentucky.counties.caldwell&m Ken G. \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr ********************************************************************** *****Your kygenweb homepages are***** CALDWELL http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html LYON http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html **********************************************************************

Hi Caldwell & Lyon listers, I will only post 1 or 2 obits a day until the Caldwell -L- and Lyon-L- gateway is closed so as not to load down your email accts. Ken G. \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr ********************************************************************** *****Your kygenweb homepages are***** CALDWELL http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html LYON http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html **********************************************************************

The Times Leader Princeton Kentucky June 20, 2001 James J. Williams, 75, died Friday, June 15, 2001, in Warrenton Virginia. He was born December 20th 1925, to Roy Clifford and Helena Pearl Williams in Central City. He was senior class Salutatorian at Butler High School, Princeton, for the class of 1944. Upon graduation, he entered the U. S. Army Air Corps and served as a staff sergeant during and after World War II in the European and North African Theaters. He attended Murray State College, and in 1953 began a career in civil engineering. Having worked 35 years for the Illinois Central Railroad and Amtrak, he retired in 1988. Survivors include his wife, Sue Thompson Williams of Rixeyville, Va.; a son, James C. Williams of Falls Church, Va.; three daughters, Brenda W. Panther of San Francisco, Calif., Becky W. Parrish of Orlean, Va., and Melissa K. Williams of West Springfield, Va.; five grandchildren, Amelia, Lena and Isaac Parrish and Hannah and Ethan Beale; and one sister, Jane W. Newsom of Princeton. Graveside services will be conducted on Thursday, June 21st, at 11:00 a.m. at Culpeper National Cemetery with military honors provided by VFW Post 2524 honor guard and American Legion Post 330. Arrangements by Clore-English Funeral Home in Culpeper, Virginia.

In the 1850 Census I find Samuel SHUFF and wife Mahala, who was the widow of Nelson DUFF of Monroe Co. TN. In 1856 I find her in Lyon County KY marrying a James SHUFF. Are these the same men?? Does anyone have any information on these families. Thanks for any help or direction for further searching. Regards, Bonnie

TheTimes Leader Princeton Kentucky July 4, 1998 Gloria "Gwen" Boaz Olson, 73, of New Brighton, Minn., died Monday, June 29, 1998. A daughter of the late Clint and Lucille Mitchell Hammond Boaz, she was a granddaughter of the late Hyland and Bertha Tandy Mitchell, niece of the late Lillie Belle Childress and of Rufus Boaz of Princeton. An award winning artist and bridge player, she was preceded in death by her first husband, Robert Olson, and two brothers, Ralph Boaz and William Hammond. Survivors include a son and daughter-in-law, Bradley and Michelle Olson; a daughter and son-in-law, Diane and Rick Pederson; ex-husband, Robert Frentress; three grandchildren, Krissa Olson and Katie and Sarah Patterson; two brothers, Gayle Boaz and Mitchell Hammond; a special friend, Paul Ohman, and several nieces, nephews and cousins. Funeral services were conducted Thursday, July 2nd, at 10:30 a.m. at the Miller Bright and funeral home. A private burial followed.

The Times Leader Princeton Ky . June 20, 2001 S. L. Jenkins, 65, formerly of Caldwell and Lyon County, died Sunday, June 17th, 2001, at 4:55 a.m. at Oak Hill Hospital Emergency Room in Spring Hill, Fla., of a sudden apparent heart attack. A member of the Methodist faith, a retiree from Inland Steel Co. in East Chicago, Indiana, and a salesman for Panda Construction Company in Spring Hill, Fla., he was born April 11th, 1936, in Lyon County, a son of the late David Jenkins and Roberta Gray Edwards. He was preceded in death by his stepfather, Texil Edwards, on September 21, 1977. Survivors include his wife, Mrs. Sharron Rogers Jenkins; a son and daughter-in-law, David and Jackie Jenkins of Hobart, Indiana; a daughter and son-in-law, Sheila and Paul Gabrici of Seminole, Fla.; four grandchildren, Ryan and Jordan Gabrici of Seminole, Fla., and Alexis and Nathaniel Jenkins of Hobart, Indiana; his mother-in-law, Esther Rogers of Fredonia; a brother, Charles Jenkins of Hopkinsville; three sisters, Mary Frances Satterfield, Juanita Murphy and Laverne Stallins, all of Princeton, and several nieces and nephews. Funeral services will be conducted Wednesday, June 20th, at 2:00 p.m. at Morgan's Funeral Home in Princeton with the Rev. Frank Stallins officiating. Burial will follow in Eddy Creek Church Cemetery in Caldwell County, Ky.

The Times Leader Princeton Kentucky June 16, 2001 Mrs. Ida Lee Sells Jones, 73, of Mesa, Ariz., died Sunday, June 10, 2001. Born December 10th 1927, in Henderson, she had been nursing assistant in the health-care industry to. Local survivors include a sister in law, Louise Holloman of Fredonia; a brother in law, Donald E. Jones of Caldwell County, a niece, Wanda Walker of Princeton; and a cousin, Billy Sells of Princeton; and other nieces and nephews in the area. Funeral services were conducted Thursday, June 14th at 10:00 a.m. at Green Acres Chapel of light in Scottsdale, Ariz.. Burial followed there.

Searching for John DONELSON/DONALDSON who mrd. Elizabeth LEE ca. 1828-30. They lived in Caldwell Co. as shown in census records 1830, 40 and 50. He may have been a preacher/minister. Then she is alone in 1860 census. Need to find date of death and burial site if possible. Does anyone have this Donelson/Donaldson family. (Surname spelled three different ways in census records!) Will share info on descendants. Thanks. Bonnie

RootsWeb HelpDesk <helpdesk-post@rootsweb.com> To: kengilke@evansville.net Subject: Re: Re: Board (Pat #96285) (fwd) (Pat #97264) A response to your Help Desk message, "Re: Board (Pat #96285) (fwd)," of Thursday, 28 June 2001, at 07:43 AM follows: Please revisit the form located at http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi if you wish to respond. Thank You!! The message reads as follows: ------------------------- Hi Ken, Searches use links and the links are out of synch. You must navigate to the board starting with Surnames or Localities. This is temporary until the reindexing is complete. Pat \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr ********************************************************************** *****Your kygenweb homepages are***** CALDWELL http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html LYON http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html **********************************************************************

Hi Listers, I dont know either!!!!! Received a letter from Rootsweb this morn. They gave me a link to get into the Home message boards. When I typed Caldwell Co Ky in I got the drop down thread that contained the Caldwell link. I clicked on Caldwell Co Ky and got the Home Message Board again.. So I wrote them back and thanked them for the link and explained how helpful it was finding the Home message board again and again and , well you know. Hang in there, maybe they will fix it if someone ever finds the plug in and it dont blow up in their face. I will resume putting obits on line if and when the powers that be can get their act together and figure out what the next "improvement" will be. Ken G. \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr ********************************************************************** *****Your kygenweb homepages are***** CALDWELL http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html LYON http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html **********************************************************************

Martha on the list told me she found James Thompson in Trigg Co. in 1841. Guess we should be looking in Trigg. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ravenholt@aol.com> To: <KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: Thompson, Calhoun, and Stevens > My ancestor is Lucretia Calhoun who, I am reasonably confident, was a sister > of Gracey Calhoun who married James W. Thompson. Lucretia Calhoun married a > John Stevens in Caldwell Co, KY, in March 1813. (Her uncle Edward Mithusson > gave his consent for her marriage.) Lucretia and John somewhat later moved > into the Jackson Purchase area that became Graves County where he appears to > have died around 1828. A John D. Stevens appears on tax lists of the Jackson > Purchase during the 1820s. When he disappears from the tax list, Lucretia > Stevens begins to appear as head of a household on the tax list. > > In any event, I found a John D. Stevens household in the 1820 census for > Caldwell Co, page 32. This household contains several "extra children" -- > six in total which seems to be more than Lucretia could have borne in just 7 > years. I have wondered in the past -- because I have not yet been able to > find any trace of James W. and Gracey Calhoun Thompson after their marriage > in 1815 -- if James and Gracey died and some of these "extra" children in her > sister Lucretia's household could have belonged to them. Of course that's > only speculation; but has anyone else found any mention of James W. and > Gracey Calhoun Thompson at any time after their 1815 marriage? > > The other probable sister of Lucretia and Gracey Calhoun was Emeranda Calhoun > who married William Stevens, a son of Elijah Stevens, in Caldwell Co. in > February 1817. This family remained in Caldwell Co. and can be traced > through the census and will records of the county. > > I will be eager to hear anything that anyone else knows about Gracey and > James W. Thompson after their marriage. > > Regards, > Betty Ravenholt > > > ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== > Please help preserve the rich heritage of > Caldwell County, KY. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

My ancestor is Lucretia Calhoun who, I am reasonably confident, was a sister of Gracey Calhoun who married James W. Thompson. Lucretia Calhoun married a John Stevens in Caldwell Co, KY, in March 1813. (Her uncle Edward Mithusson gave his consent for her marriage.) Lucretia and John somewhat later moved into the Jackson Purchase area that became Graves County where he appears to have died around 1828. A John D. Stevens appears on tax lists of the Jackson Purchase during the 1820s. When he disappears from the tax list, Lucretia Stevens begins to appear as head of a household on the tax list. In any event, I found a John D. Stevens household in the 1820 census for Caldwell Co, page 32. This household contains several "extra children" -- six in total which seems to be more than Lucretia could have borne in just 7 years. I have wondered in the past -- because I have not yet been able to find any trace of James W. and Gracey Calhoun Thompson after their marriage in 1815 -- if James and Gracey died and some of these "extra" children in her sister Lucretia's household could have belonged to them. Of course that's only speculation; but has anyone else found any mention of James W. and Gracey Calhoun Thompson at any time after their 1815 marriage? The other probable sister of Lucretia and Gracey Calhoun was Emeranda Calhoun who married William Stevens, a son of Elijah Stevens, in Caldwell Co. in February 1817. This family remained in Caldwell Co. and can be traced through the census and will records of the county. I will be eager to hear anything that anyone else knows about Gracey and James W. Thompson after their marriage. Regards, Betty Ravenholt

I answered an e-mail from Pat and forgot to chance subject. Sorry. Sue

Hi Pat: The information as to James parents must have come from Scarlett McDaniel. I wish I knew where her research is, because maybe we could straighten some things out. While I am writing thought I would mention again that James Hall did not have a child named Casty who married a Cowles. He had 12 children. I have been trying to run this down. I know that Rebecca who married Henry Cowles was a Sampson. Court records show that she was Rebecca Hall, widow, when she married Henry. I am leaning toward her being the widow of Charles Hall. Charles never appeared on any census or tax list in Caldwell that I could find and I believe he was either the brother of Martin or James or both.and was young when he died. I believe somewhere I saw where there was a Hall boy living with Rebecca and Henry, but as usual I didn't write down where I saw it. I have never believed that Charles Hall was the father of our Martin. I am still working on the Joseph Hall that died in Laurens Co SC.as being a brother. By the way, I finally found a ggrandaughter of James Hezikiah Hall, brother of John E. but after she contacted me the last two times I tried to e-mail her it bounced. Are you going to be at the Hall reunion Saturday? Take care Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Oliver <woliver@hiwaay.net> To: <KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Thompson/please help > >Hi List: > > > >I am desperately searching for information about a Joseph and Mary > >Thompson from SC. I believe they came to Caldwell Co in early > >1800's. Their son James W. Thompson married Rachel George, daughter > >of Andrew George. He married second Gracey Calhoon on Oct. 19, 1815 > >in Caldwell Co. > >Does anyone know anything about this family? James' and Rachel > >George Thompson were my ggggrandparents. > > > >Appreciate any help. > > > >Sue > > > Hello Sue, > I am also descended from this James Thompson through his daughter > Rachael Matilda who married Delaney W. Hall. > > I have attempted once or twice to do something with James but never > got anywhere. I did not know, for example, that he married Gracey > Calhoun. I know that Andrew's will pretty well excluded James, and > that the two daughters were raised by their Grandmother Sarah George. > In fact, I had thought that James had moved away, if he ever lived in > the area. I had been told that his parents were Joseph and Mary but > don't know the source of that data. Do you? > -- > Pat Oliver (Willis P. Oliver) > woliver@hiwaay.net > > *************************************************** > * * > * Proud to sponsor these Western KYGENWEB Pages: * > * * > * http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html * > * http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/crittenden.html * > * http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/livingston.html * > * http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html * > * http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/marshall.html * > * * > *************************************************** > > > ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried searching for your surnames with the Surname Helper search engine? http://surhelp.rootsweb.com/srchall.html You might want to limit it to USA/Kentucky or wherever. > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >