Peggy, a few weeks ago we exchanged notes concerning the marriage of Zack Williamson. Arwana Kyle's marriage book listed his bride as Flavie Calvert, but I told you that I believed this to be a mistake. On a recent trip to Princeton, KY, I examined the records and can say positively that Z. T. Williamson's wife was Flavie Throckmorten. The marriage is recorded in Marriage Bonds book 23, page 473, with the marriage being performed 22 Dec 1899. There is a note from Flavie Throckmorten authorizing the clerk to issue the license along with another note from W. G. Throckmorten stating the she is over age 21. The name Calvert does not appear in these records and I have no idea how the mistake occurred. By the way, I have seen the Throckmorten spelled incorrectly in the obiturary of one of Zack and Flavie's daughters as "Throgmorten." Bye, Richard Sheridan

I'AM LOOKING FOR INFOMATION ON MATTIE AND LULA BORDEN (CRUTCHER). LULA WAS MY GRANDMOTHER AND MATTIE MY GREAT AUNT. THEY WERE BORN SOMETIME IN THE 1890'S. I WIOULD LIKE TO KNOW THERE PARENTS NAME'S , AND THEIR GRANDPARENT'S NAME'S. PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT, VIRGIEANN7@AOL.COM

Pam His name was John H. Phelps. peggy > > Does anyone on the list know the first name of the Clerk of the Court for Caldwell County in 1812? >

Does anyone on the list know the first name of the Clerk of the Court for Caldwell County in 1812? I am transcribing some documents and can't make out what his first name is. His last name is Phelps and looks like his first name begins with an "I" or maybe "J". Many thanks, Pam Gresham

I am descended from Andrew Dunn, son of Joseph Dunn. Andrew married Penina Freeman, whose father was Michael Washington Freeman. I show he had 4 daughters and one son Michael Washington Freeman Jr. Michael married Eliza Bigham. Aaron Freeman was a brother of Michael Washington Freeman Sr. His wife was Judith Fleetwood. I have a Sara Freeman who was born 2/25/1804 who married James H Bigham. I do not show a Dudley C in my database. Andrew (1787-1836)had 8 brothers and 2 sisters. -----Original Message----- From: CtTTrusty@aol.com [mailto:CtTTrusty@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:40 AM To: KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Dunn, Freeman Hi- New to the list. I have these families over in Lyon Co. ca. 1850, but noticed that there are some Rev. War vets with the same names. Can anybody help me tie up some loose ends? My farthest generations are: a)Dudley C. Dunn, b. 1826. Any relation to Joseph DUNN, NC line? b) Sarah Freeman b. 1833. Have seen Aaron/Judith FREEMAN, and Michael FREEMAN, NC. Any help is greatly appreciated. Cherilyn Trusty ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== Please help preserve the rich heritage of Caldwell County, KY. ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Another thought on movement from VA/NC/TN to the Caldwell Co area of KY. If you follow the Cumberland River it starts in eastern TN/KY near theNC/VA borders. I saw an article once that said that the Wilderness Rd followed I believe what is now hwy 25 in eastern KY- or roughly close to where it is now from Cumberland Gap up toward Corbin, KY. It was easy for our ancestors to hop on the Cumberland River and float "down" stream. Downstream being at first heading SE towards Nashville, and then NW through what is now the land between the lakes area and emptying out into the Ohio River near Paducah. Eddyville in Caldwell Co is on the north side of the Cumberland and close to where my NC Rev War ancestor ended up. Just another thought......( and my Mam-ma told me that was how her Mam-ma told her they did it!) Teri

Yes, that is what historians say happened. Also, Eddyville is in Lyon Co. :o) V. Haile ----- Original Message ----- From: <ELI6223@aol.com> To: <KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 7:22 PM Subject: Re: Migrations > Another thought on movement from VA/NC/TN to the Caldwell Co area of KY. If > you follow the Cumberland River it starts in eastern TN/KY near theNC/VA > borders. I saw an article once that said that the Wilderness Rd followed I > believe what is now hwy 25 in eastern KY- or roughly close to where it is > now from Cumberland Gap up toward Corbin, KY. It was easy for our ancestors > to hop on the Cumberland River and float "down" stream. Downstream being at > first heading SE towards Nashville, and then NW through what is now the land > between the lakes area and emptying out into the Ohio River near Paducah. > Eddyville in Caldwell Co is on the north side of the Cumberland and close to > where my NC Rev War ancestor ended up. > Just another thought......( and my Mam-ma told me that was how her Mam-ma > told her they did it!) > Teri > > > ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== > to post a message to this mailing list, > L mode: KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com > D mode: KYCALDWE-D@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

>I have been searching in vain for information on John Calvin Williams, born >in Caldwell County about 1833-1839. He never knew his exact year. His >father's name was William which I found on John's death certificate. I >don't know his mother's name though I did find a John C. born about that >time with the mother of the name Elizabeth. I am not positive that this is >our John C. Does anyone have any info on this person or know where else I >can search in the Caldwell Co. area? Any help appreciated. > You might consider placing a query on my KYGENWEB Caldwell and Lyon County pages. -- Pat Oliver (Willis P. Oliver) woliver@hiwaay.net *************************************************** * * * Proud to sponsor these Western KYGENWEB Pages: * * * * http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html * * http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/crittenden.html * * http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/livingston.html * * http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html * * http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/marshall.html * * * ***************************************************

I too, wondered why my folks went from Virginia to Tenn. and then took rafts up the Cumberland to Ky and some moving on further West. There was an excellent article in ANCESTRY magazine in July of last year that was called WESTWARD MOVEMENT,THE KENTUCKY MICROCOSM. It was written by Dr. Roseann Reinemuth Hogan. In short it explained: The environment and economic conditions in VA,N.C. and PA. made it ripe for migration. It also pointed out that most of the immigrants had strong religious beliefs and consequently there were conflicts and that was another reason to "find their own place". Plus a great number of these men had fought in the Rev. War and were given lands in the Wilderness State.I can only cite my own family in this, but even tho there was a great deal of land in the family, some was sold due to not managing it correctly and a great deal was lost due to the War of Yankee Aggression. Which brings up another point. One of my ggrandfathers moved to KY. from TN. becaus! e he was a Southern sympathizer and the majority of the family were for the Union. And then there was, in one instance, a move on to Texas as the schism was so deep, it was never healed.If you can find this article I think you will find it very informative. Martha

Thanks for the "picture" of our ancestors travel. My grandmother always told the story of her father riding in a black kettle on the ship down the Cumberland. Interesting. Dean > From: ELI6223@aol.com > Reply-To: KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 19:22:30 EDT > To: KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Migrations > Resent-From: KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 17:22:41 -0600 > > Another thought on movement from VA/NC/TN to the Caldwell Co area of KY. If > you follow the Cumberland River it starts in eastern TN/KY near theNC/VA > borders. I saw an article once that said that the Wilderness Rd followed I > believe what is now hwy 25 in eastern KY- or roughly close to where it is > now from Cumberland Gap up toward Corbin, KY. It was easy for our ancestors > to hop on the Cumberland River and float "down" stream. Downstream being at > first heading SE towards Nashville, and then NW through what is now the land > between the lakes area and emptying out into the Ohio River near Paducah. > Eddyville in Caldwell Co is on the north side of the Cumberland and close to > where my NC Rev War ancestor ended up. > Just another thought......( and my Mam-ma told me that was how her Mam-ma > told her they did it!) > Teri > > > ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== > to post a message to this mailing list, > L mode: KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com > D mode: KYCALDWE-D@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Peggy... I don't know of a Crisp cem in Hopkins Co but there are some Crisps in the western section of the county. COFFMAN CEMETERY, located at Stoney Ridge near Yarbrough Mine abt 1/2 mile west of Hwy 109. pg 37 Susan Frances Crisp, d 5 Jun 1856, age 88 y ?days LAFETTE CEMETERY, located abt 2 miles off Hwy 1220, right, between Union Grove and Olney. pg 67 Mary W Crisp 25 Mar 1875 - 27 Jul 1943 pg 71 Susan F Crisp 16 Nov 1873 - 5 Jun 1956 Alford P Crisp 27 Dec 1871 - 1 Mar 1952 MENSER CEMETERY, Located on Hwy 62 abt 1 mi north and abt 1 1/2 miles east of Dawson Springs. pg 82 Mary A Crisp 14 Feb 1868 - 13 Apr 1930 w/o W W McGregor next to her: Wm W McGregor 2 Dec 1867 - 22 May 1935 Hope this helps. nt -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of kengilke@evansville.net Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:40 AM To: KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: CRISP CEM. Does anyone know the location of a CRISP Cem. in Caldwell or Hopkins Co.? May be in the Olney area? Thanks, Peggy Gilkey ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== to search the archives of this mailing list visit: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and type in: KYCALDWE-L ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

I am seeking information on Sarah Ellen Griffith . She was married to Charles Walker . They both are buried in Love's Cemetery in Ky. Their children were: Charles Clarence Walker ( born 1889 ) Luther Lewis Walker Edward Eugene Walker Aaron Ollie Walker They had a half brother and sister : Alvin Walker and Fanny Walker (Westmoland .) Any information on any of these would be appreciated . Thanks in advance , Pat mcdow@cox-internet.com

I don't know what the draw was, but there was a large migration to KY about that time. I'm sure some with more knowledge could tell you. Va.Haile ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather" <eponalady@yahoo.com> To: <KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 12:45 PM Subject: Migrations > I noticed in the post about John Miller that he came from Rutherford > County, Tennessee to Caldwell County. I have a Bass ancestor who > made that same trek in the 1840s. So far, I have been unable to > identify anyone he may have traveled with. I am wondering why he > would have gone north to Kentucky from Tennessee then south to Texas. > What was going on in Caldwell County at that time? > > Heather > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried searching for your surnames with the Surname Helper search engine? http://surhelp.rootsweb.com/srchall.html You might want to limit it to USA/Kentucky or wherever. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Heather, who were your BASS's? Did they come from Stewart County, TN? Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather" <eponalady@yahoo.com> To: <KYCALDWE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: Migrations I noticed in the post about John Miller that he came from Rutherford County, Tennessee to Caldwell County. I have a Bass ancestor who made that same trek in the 1840s. So far, I have been unable to identify anyone he may have traveled with. I am wondering why he would have gone north to Kentucky from Tennessee then south to Texas. What was going on in Caldwell County at that time? Heather __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== Have you tried searching for your surnames with the Surname Helper search engine? http://surhelp.rootsweb.com/srchall.html You might want to limit it to USA/Kentucky or wherever. ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

I am in need of any information I can find on a John H. Miller, b. 1/24/1819, d. 12/28/1891, buried in Caldwell Co., KY, according to Caldwell co. KY Ancestors, Volume II, Compiled 1998 by Gregory L. Watson. For some reason, I did not get the cemetary!! I believe his daughter was Mary Jane Miller, b. Rutherford Co., TN, m. John C. Haile, Caldwell Co., KY 23 Jan. 1868. I do not have proof of this connection. I need census info from KY and any other information available. Thanks you, Virginia Haile Researching: Miller, Haile, Vickery, Meadows, Ladd, Hensley, Solman

I have been searching in vain for information on John Calvin Williams, born in Caldwell County about 1833-1839. He never knew his exact year. His father's name was William which I found on John's death certificate. I don't know his mother's name though I did find a John C. born about that time with the mother of the name Elizabeth. I am not positive that this is our John C. Does anyone have any info on this person or know where else I can search in the Caldwell Co. area? Any help appreciated.

I noticed in the post about John Miller that he came from Rutherford County, Tennessee to Caldwell County. I have a Bass ancestor who made that same trek in the 1840s. So far, I have been unable to identify anyone he may have traveled with. I am wondering why he would have gone north to Kentucky from Tennessee then south to Texas. What was going on in Caldwell County at that time? Heather __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Does anyone know the location of a CRISP Cem. in Caldwell or Hopkins Co.? May be in the Olney area? Thanks, Peggy Gilkey

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Hi- New to the list. I have these families over in Lyon Co. ca. 1850, but noticed that there are some Rev. War vets with the same names. Can anybody help me tie up some loose ends? My farthest generations are: a)Dudley C. Dunn, b. 1826. Any relation to Joseph DUNN, NC line? b) Sarah Freeman b. 1833. Have seen Aaron/Judith FREEMAN, and Michael FREEMAN, NC. Any help is greatly appreciated. Cherilyn Trusty