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    1. Re: caves
    2. Don & Vicki Stewart
    3. Carolyn wrote: I have forgotten if that is called one mile hill or two mile hill. Carolyn, you do remember that people referred to those hills as one mile hill, two mile hill? And Carolyn wrote: I have heard of Hunter's Bluff. Isn't that the reported hide out of Jessie James? okay, I am very interested in this. Anything, anyone? Vicki

    04/07/2002 05:32:47
    1. Re: caves
    2. Don & Vicki Stewart
    3. What a good memory. I do remember the one you and Emma were talking about, I think. There was one on that side of the road as you are going around a bolder bend on a downhill (I believe that's right also) where it looked like you could walk right in from the road. I had forgotten about that one. I also think that there is not a good place to get a car off the road here and that this one does seem to have become less noticeable or has caved in. thanks, Vicki

    04/07/2002 05:12:01
    1. RE: Caves
    2. Cheri Casper
    3. You might want to get in touch anyway, just in case you need rescuing due to flash flooding, falls, etc. I know one very experienced caver who had a fall and broke her leg. It took 3 days to get her out. Food for thought. CheriC IBSSG =^..^= -----Original Message----- From: Sue [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Caves Thanks for the information, but I really didn't intend to explore the caves, just wanted to see the outside and maybe go in the biggest on just a little way. Sue L. I would suggest that anyone interested in knowing more about caves or doing any cave exploration contact the National Speleological Society in Huntsville, Alabama. They can put you in touch with a local cave club or grotto who will teach you about cave conservation and safe caving techniques. Even the most experienced cavers can get themselves into trouble so this is not to be undertaken lightly. Cavers should wear a hard hat and carry 3 sources of light and let someone know where they went and when they expect to return. But there is a lot more to safe caving than that and anyone should definitely learn from those experienced in caving. I have been a member of the caving community since the early 1970's and a member of the NSS for almost as long. CheriC IBSSG -----Original Message----- From: Don & Vicki Stewart [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 7:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Caves I do know of this cave and let me try out a few terms here to see if any of you heard of these. Please share if you know more. Headed out of Dawson on Hwy 62, you go past 'one mile hill' and there is a little creek, immediately after the creek there is a small area just big enough to pull a car off the road. From here you hike up to 'Hunters Bluff' and partway up the trail you will find the entrance to that cave. It is visible from the road. I even went into the first room of this cave once but it was some time ago and my memory is vague. The first area was fairly spacious and towards the left rear there is an area which you can get into but it is lower, like a drop down level. And it is dark once inside, very, very dark, even with a flashlight. It is not like Mammoth Cave where lights have been strung, and the fear of the unknown was greater than my curiously. The view from the top of Hunters Bluff is really spectacular and over the years I have made numerous trips up there. There is another cave we used to go check out also. Shortly after that creek there is a road that heads south towards Claxton. Seems there were some old cabins there by the turn off of 62. If you take this road you will go past Beulah Hill Church and down by 'French Spring Hollow' there is a 'gravel pit'. We used to collect very colorful rocks from here. There is another cave here but the entrance is very narrow. I was only by this cave with my parents and don't remember ever going into this one. I would also like to know if anyone knows about "Ice Cave"? I was by a site just a few days ago that mentioned Ice Cave in Princeton as being a Historical Place. Remember it saying something about the cave being icy year round. Coming from Princeton to Dawson just about the end of '2 mile hill' you can see 'Hunters Bluff' from the road just to the South. I am still fascinated by this place, and would like to know if anyone knows how this came to be called 'Hunters Bluff.' I do think this cave here is caving in. anyone else know about these places? or have information to share? Vicki Add your 3 line message here Reunion News, Genealogy Workshops, Caldwell County Data WebSite Contact Vicki [email protected] To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetidW1&sourceid37 Add your 3 line message here Reunion News, Genealogy Workshops, Caldwell County Data WebSite Contact Vicki [email protected] To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetidW1&sourceid37 ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== For Caldwell County Obituaries, visit the Caldwell County Board and select Obituaries. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    04/07/2002 04:29:57
    1. Re: Clippings
    2. Kenneth E. Gilkey
    3. On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Carole Eve wrote... >Thank you Kenneth for the Sam Steger clippings. Very informative. > >It seems that I do recall that the western part of KY was more prominent >with the Chickasaw than the Cherokee. At least in that neck of the >woods. > >Where would I find a copy of these? > >Carolyn > ********************************************* Carolyn, This book was published last year by the Caldwell Co. Hist. Soc. They have this book in hardback. It is 279 pages with index. It is selected newspaper clippings that Sam wrote over the years on lots of different subjects.. In Keeping with Rootsweb protocol I will not put the price on the list, but will send it to you privately with the address to order. Ken G. \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr ********************************************************************** *****Your kygenweb homepages are***** CALDWELL http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html LYON http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html TRIGG http://www.kyseeker.com/trigg/index.html **********************************************************************

    04/07/2002 03:57:42
    1. Re: Caves
    2. Carole Eve
    3. Subject: Re: Caves > > Vicki, how about getting a group together and show us the caves? > > Sue L. > I too would be interested in visiting the caves. Make that two people bringing cameras! Carolyn

    04/07/2002 01:42:50
    1. Clippings
    2. Carole Eve
    3. Thank you Kenneth for the Sam Steger clippings. Very informative. It seems that I do recall that the western part of KY was more prominent with the Chickasaw than the Cherokee. At least in that neck of the woods. Where would I find a copy of these? Carolyn

    04/07/2002 01:33:55
    1. Re: caves
    2. Carole Eve
    3. Hi Vicki and list, The cave I was referring to is actually right on the side of the road. I mean just across the ditch from the pavement. If memory serves me well and considering it has been some years since I was through there, it is near the bottom and right on the curve of road. I have forgotten if that is called one mile hill or two mile hill. Coming from Dawson it would be on the left. Of course from Princeton to Dawson it would be on the right and about a quarter way up the hill. I have heard of Hunter's Bluff. Isn't that the reported hide out of Jessie James? Carolyn

    04/07/2002 01:26:53
    1. RE: Caves
    2. Cheri Casper
    3. I would suggest that anyone interested in knowing more about caves or doing any cave exploration contact the National Speleological Society in Huntsville, Alabama. They can put you in touch with a local cave club or grotto who will teach you about cave conservation and safe caving techniques. Even the most experienced cavers can get themselves into trouble so this is not to be undertaken lightly. Cavers should wear a hard hat and carry 3 sources of light and let someone know where they went and when they expect to return. But there is a lot more to safe caving than that and anyone should definitely learn from those experienced in caving. I have been a member of the caving community since the early 1970's and a member of the NSS for almost as long. CheriC IBSSG =^..^= -----Original Message----- From: Don & Vicki Stewart [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 7:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Caves I do know of this cave and let me try out a few terms here to see if any of you heard of these. Please share if you know more. Headed out of Dawson on Hwy 62, you go past 'one mile hill' and there is a little creek, immediately after the creek there is a small area just big enough to pull a car off the road. From here you hike up to 'Hunters Bluff' and partway up the trail you will find the entrance to that cave. It is visible from the road. I even went into the first room of this cave once but it was some time ago and my memory is vague. The first area was fairly spacious and towards the left rear there is an area which you can get into but it is lower, like a drop down level. And it is dark once inside, very, very dark, even with a flashlight. It is not like Mammoth Cave where lights have been strung, and the fear of the unknown was greater than my curiously. The view from the top of Hunters Bluff is really spectacular and over the years I have made numerous trips up there. There is another cave we used to go check out also. Shortly after that creek there is a road that heads south towards Claxton. Seems there were some old cabins there by the turn off of 62. If you take this road you will go past Beulah Hill Church and down by 'French Spring Hollow' there is a 'gravel pit'. We used to collect very colorful rocks from here. There is another cave here but the entrance is very narrow. I was only by this cave with my parents and don't remember ever going into this one. I would also like to know if anyone knows about "Ice Cave"? I was by a site just a few days ago that mentioned Ice Cave in Princeton as being a Historical Place. Remember it saying something about the cave being icy year round. Coming from Princeton to Dawson just about the end of '2 mile hill' you can see 'Hunters Bluff' from the road just to the South. I am still fascinated by this place, and would like to know if anyone knows how this came to be called 'Hunters Bluff.' I do think this cave here is caving in. anyone else know about these places? or have information to share? Vicki ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== Add your 3 line message here Reunion News, Genealogy Workshops, Caldwell County Data WebSite Contact Vicki [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    04/06/2002 04:58:47
    1. RE: Caves
    2. Nancy Trice
    3. Be sure and let me know when... I'll grab my camera and tag along. <g> nt -----Original Message----- From: Sue [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 10:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Caves Vicki, how about getting a group together and show us the caves? Sue L. I do know of this cave and let me try out a few terms here to see if any of you heard of these. Please share if you know more. Headed out of Dawson on Hwy 62, you go past 'one mile hill' and there is a little creek, immediately after the creek there is a small area just big enough to pull a car off the road. From here you hike up to 'Hunters Bluff' and partway up the trail you will find the entrance to that cave. It is visible from the road. I even went into the first room of this cave once but it was some time ago and my memory is vague. The first area was fairly spacious and towards the left rear there is an area which you can get into but it is lower, like a drop down level. And it is dark once inside, very, very dark, even with a flashlight. It is not like Mammoth Cave where lights have been strung, and the fear of the unknown was greater than my curiously. The view from the top of Hunters Bluff is really spectacular and over the years I have made numerous trips up there. There is another cave we used to go check out also. Shortly after that creek there is a road that heads south towards Claxton. Seems there were some old cabins there by the turn off of 62. If you take this road you will go past Beulah Hill Church and down by 'French Spring Hollow' there is a 'gravel pit'. We used to collect very colorful rocks from here. There is another cave here but the entrance is very narrow. I was only by this cave with my parents and don't remember ever going into this one. I would also like to know if anyone knows about "Ice Cave"? I was by a site just a few days ago that mentioned Ice Cave in Princeton as being a Historical Place. Remember it saying something about the cave being icy year round. Coming from Princeton to Dawson just about the end of '2 mile hill' you can see 'Hunters Bluff' from the road just to the South. I am still fascinated by this place, and would like to know if anyone knows how this came to be called 'Hunters Bluff.' I do think this cave here is caving in. anyone else know about these places? or have information to share? Vicki Add your 3 line message here Reunion News, Genealogy Workshops, Caldwell County Data WebSite Contact Vicki [email protected] To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetidW1&sourceid37 ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== For Caldwell County Obituaries, visit the Caldwell County Board and select Obituaries. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    04/06/2002 04:29:19
    1. Re: Caves
    2. Nancy Hessel
    3. Back to cradads, My husband says as a boy he and his brother use catch them when they were out adventreing, cook them in a tin can, over an open fire ,and they always took some dill along to flavor them with, Early Chefs?. Don & Vicki Stewart wrote: > I do know of this cave and let me try out a few terms here to see if any of you heard of these. Please share if you > know more. > > Headed out of Dawson on Hwy 62, you go past 'one mile hill' and there is a little creek, immediately after the creek > there is a small area just big enough to pull a car off the road. From here you hike up to 'Hunters Bluff' and partway > up the trail you will find the entrance to that cave. It is visible from the road. I even went into the first room of > this cave once but it was some time ago and my memory is vague. The first area was fairly spacious and towards the left > rear there is an area which you can get into but it is lower, like a drop down level. And it is dark once inside, very, > very dark, even with a flashlight. It is not like Mammoth Cave where lights have been strung, and the fear of the > unknown was greater than my curiously. The view from the top of Hunters Bluff is really spectacular and over the years > I have made numerous trips up there. > > There is another cave we used to go check out also. Shortly after that creek there is a road that heads south towards > Claxton. Seems there were some old cabins there by the turn off of 62. If you take this road you will go past Beulah > Hill Church and down by 'French Spring Hollow' there is a 'gravel pit'. We used to collect very colorful rocks from > here. There is another cave here but the entrance is very narrow. I was only by this cave with my parents and don't > remember ever going into this one. > > I would also like to know if anyone knows about "Ice Cave"? I was by a site just a few days ago that mentioned Ice Cave > in Princeton as being a Historical Place. Remember it saying something about the cave being icy year round. > > Coming from Princeton to Dawson just about the end of '2 mile hill' you can see 'Hunters Bluff' from the road just to > the South. I am still fascinated by this place, and would like to know if anyone knows how this came to be called > 'Hunters Bluff.' > I do think this cave here is caving in. > > anyone else know about these places? or have information to share? > Vicki > > ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== > Add your 3 line message here > Reunion News, Genealogy Workshops, Caldwell County Data WebSite > Contact Vicki [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    04/06/2002 03:39:26
    1. Re: Caves
    2. Sue
    3. Vicki, how about getting a group together and show us the caves? Sue L. I do know of this cave and let me try out a few terms here to see if any of you heard of these. Please share if you know more. Headed out of Dawson on Hwy 62, you go past 'one mile hill' and there is a little creek, immediately after the creek there is a small area just big enough to pull a car off the road. From here you hike up to 'Hunters Bluff' and partway up the trail you will find the entrance to that cave. It is visible from the road. I even went into the first room of this cave once but it was some time ago and my memory is vague. The first area was fairly spacious and towards the left rear there is an area which you can get into but it is lower, like a drop down level. And it is dark once inside, very, very dark, even with a flashlight. It is not like Mammoth Cave where lights have been strung, and the fear of the unknown was greater than my curiously. The view from the top of Hunters Bluff is really spectacular and over the years I have made numerous trips up there. There is another cave we used to go check out also. Shortly after that creek there is a road that heads south towards Claxton. Seems there were some old cabins there by the turn off of 62. If you take this road you will go past Beulah Hill Church and down by 'French Spring Hollow' there is a 'gravel pit'. We used to collect very colorful rocks from here. There is another cave here but the entrance is very narrow. I was only by this cave with my parents and don't remember ever going into this one. I would also like to know if anyone knows about "Ice Cave"? I was by a site just a few days ago that mentioned Ice Cave in Princeton as being a Historical Place. Remember it saying something about the cave being icy year round. Coming from Princeton to Dawson just about the end of '2 mile hill' you can see 'Hunters Bluff' from the road just to the South. I am still fascinated by this place, and would like to know if anyone knows how this came to be called 'Hunters Bluff.' I do think this cave here is caving in. anyone else know about these places? or have information to share? Vicki Add your 3 line message here Reunion News, Genealogy Workshops, Caldwell County Data WebSite Contact Vicki [email protected] To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetidW1&sourceid37

    04/06/2002 03:29:26
    1. Re: Caves
    2. Don & Vicki Stewart
    3. I do know of this cave and let me try out a few terms here to see if any of you heard of these. Please share if you know more. Headed out of Dawson on Hwy 62, you go past 'one mile hill' and there is a little creek, immediately after the creek there is a small area just big enough to pull a car off the road. From here you hike up to 'Hunters Bluff' and partway up the trail you will find the entrance to that cave. It is visible from the road. I even went into the first room of this cave once but it was some time ago and my memory is vague. The first area was fairly spacious and towards the left rear there is an area which you can get into but it is lower, like a drop down level. And it is dark once inside, very, very dark, even with a flashlight. It is not like Mammoth Cave where lights have been strung, and the fear of the unknown was greater than my curiously. The view from the top of Hunters Bluff is really spectacular and over the years I have made numerous trips up there. There is another cave we used to go check out also. Shortly after that creek there is a road that heads south towards Claxton. Seems there were some old cabins there by the turn off of 62. If you take this road you will go past Beulah Hill Church and down by 'French Spring Hollow' there is a 'gravel pit'. We used to collect very colorful rocks from here. There is another cave here but the entrance is very narrow. I was only by this cave with my parents and don't remember ever going into this one. I would also like to know if anyone knows about "Ice Cave"? I was by a site just a few days ago that mentioned Ice Cave in Princeton as being a Historical Place. Remember it saying something about the cave being icy year round. Coming from Princeton to Dawson just about the end of '2 mile hill' you can see 'Hunters Bluff' from the road just to the South. I am still fascinated by this place, and would like to know if anyone knows how this came to be called 'Hunters Bluff.' I do think this cave here is caving in. anyone else know about these places? or have information to share? Vicki

    04/06/2002 03:00:28
    1. Re: Chalklevel
    2. downs
    3. Collinsville, IL has the largest Mississippian Village of the area. My husband were in Collinsville a year ago and toured the museum and sat in on a video about the these people and their way of life. Because of the flooding in the areas around where they made their villages, they carried hauled loads of soil and built mounds on which the built their homes. Their villages reminded me somewhat of the Egyptians. If you ever have the opportunity to be in the Collinsville, IL it would be worth you time to see this museum and all the artifacts and history on display. Janie Downs -----Original Message----- From: Emma Lou Tabor <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, April 06, 2002 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Chalklevel >This is odd I was passing through Dawson on my way to Princeton one day >last week. I happened to mention that there used to be a cave along beside >the road. For the life of me I couldn't remember where it was or any detail >about it. I think I remember the story that a man used to live in it. >OK how about it can any one remember anything. >Emma Lou >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carole Eve" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:19 AM >Subject: Re: Chalklevel > > >> Hi Vicki, >> >> I do know about the Mississippi Indians and I really enjoyed reading >> about them again from the web site you sent. That was a very thoughtful >> gesture and thank you. >> >> Mainly what I was wondering is what tribe was living there in the 1800's >> when the village was discovered by the white settlers. >> >> Has anyone been to the museum in Dawson? Maybe they have some material >> on the tribe that lived in the area before the whites came. >> >> I was aware that seasonal camps were lived in by the natives in that >> part of KY but don't know of any that lived there year round other than >> the very ancient time of the Mississippi. >> >> It would make sense to me if several tribes did live there but our >> history books (at least when I was in school and that was another >> century ago) say that warring tribes hunted in KY and fought each other >> for the territory. That was why KY was called the "dark and bloody >> ground." >> >> It has been many a year since I was taught that and maybe more light and >> facts have come to pass since then. As we all know our history is not >> always right. Gee, imagine that. (g) >> >> Does anyone know about the cave on the side of the road between >> Princeton and Dawson. I believe that would be on Hwy 62. It is right >> on the edge of the highway and appears to have dwindled in size the last >> time I was by there. Somebody said they attempted to fill it in, >> another tale is that is is caving in. >> >> Does anyone know the particulars? Also it may not have been there >> before the 1900's. What I mean is that it appears that the carving out >> of the road sliced through it. So maybe it starts somewhere else either >> up or down the hill. >> >> Did the highway follow the old wagon road or was it blasted out to make >> a new one? >> >> My all these questions but I have wanted to know about the cave since I >> was a child and this looks like the best opportunity I'll ever have. >> >> Carolyn >> >> >> >> > Carolyn, >> > Here's what I can find online. I found both of these places very >> interesting. >> > >> > I don't know if this is the answer to your question but these >> Mississippi Indians seem like the type that were settlers. >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------- >> > http://www.scott.k12.ky.us/southern/kyquilt/kyindians.htm >> > writes about Mississippi Indians: >> > The Mississippi Indians lived in the western part of Kentucky. The >> Mississippi Indians lived in groups, some of which >> > were very large. The Mississippi Indians lived in houses with roofs >> and they stayed there year-round. These Indians were >> > farmers. They grew corn, beans, squash, tobacco, and sunflowers. The >> Mississippi Indians buried their dead in long , >> > shallow graves in areas that resembled cemeteries. >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > This is real good too. >> > >> > KENTUCKY'S STORY >> > 1 Early Kentucky >> > Early Indians in Kentucky (12,000 B.C.-1650 A.D.) >> > http://www.cynthianaky.com/ket1.htm >> > >> > The last of the prehistoric people, who lived in Kentucky from 900 >> A.D.-1650 A.D., were the Mississippian Indians of >> > western Kentucky. >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > Group, >> > (This is off subject of the Native tribe of Chalklevel) >> > But I found this site while looking for that and it is like a must see >> site for everyone. >> > The author of this page has done a Kentucky History Timeline, from >> 1739-1865. >> > It's part of the American Local History Network for Owen County, KY. >> > >> > They have added in green type (personal family info) but the brown >> type is like worth a read. >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rootdigger/kyhistory.htm >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > anyone else? all help is appreciated, >> > Vicki >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== >> > Did you know you can now upload graphic files with your post at our >> RootsWeb boards? >> > >> > ============================== >> > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >> records, go to: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > >> >> >> ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== >> Please consider adding your Caldwell County data to our Caldwell County >Board or our Caldwell County Genealogy KYGenWeb site. >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> > > >==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== >RootsWeb Boards now allow you to pick the classification and expand all the messages on the page at one time. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    04/06/2002 12:56:21
    1. Re: Chalklevel
    2. Emma Lou Tabor
    3. This is odd I was passing through Dawson on my way to Princeton one day last week. I happened to mention that there used to be a cave along beside the road. For the life of me I couldn't remember where it was or any detail about it. I think I remember the story that a man used to live in it. OK how about it can any one remember anything. Emma Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Eve" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Chalklevel > Hi Vicki, > > I do know about the Mississippi Indians and I really enjoyed reading > about them again from the web site you sent. That was a very thoughtful > gesture and thank you. > > Mainly what I was wondering is what tribe was living there in the 1800's > when the village was discovered by the white settlers. > > Has anyone been to the museum in Dawson? Maybe they have some material > on the tribe that lived in the area before the whites came. > > I was aware that seasonal camps were lived in by the natives in that > part of KY but don't know of any that lived there year round other than > the very ancient time of the Mississippi. > > It would make sense to me if several tribes did live there but our > history books (at least when I was in school and that was another > century ago) say that warring tribes hunted in KY and fought each other > for the territory. That was why KY was called the "dark and bloody > ground." > > It has been many a year since I was taught that and maybe more light and > facts have come to pass since then. As we all know our history is not > always right. Gee, imagine that. (g) > > Does anyone know about the cave on the side of the road between > Princeton and Dawson. I believe that would be on Hwy 62. It is right > on the edge of the highway and appears to have dwindled in size the last > time I was by there. Somebody said they attempted to fill it in, > another tale is that is is caving in. > > Does anyone know the particulars? Also it may not have been there > before the 1900's. What I mean is that it appears that the carving out > of the road sliced through it. So maybe it starts somewhere else either > up or down the hill. > > Did the highway follow the old wagon road or was it blasted out to make > a new one? > > My all these questions but I have wanted to know about the cave since I > was a child and this looks like the best opportunity I'll ever have. > > Carolyn > > > > > Carolyn, > > Here's what I can find online. I found both of these places very > interesting. > > > > I don't know if this is the answer to your question but these > Mississippi Indians seem like the type that were settlers. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > http://www.scott.k12.ky.us/southern/kyquilt/kyindians.htm > > writes about Mississippi Indians: > > The Mississippi Indians lived in the western part of Kentucky. The > Mississippi Indians lived in groups, some of which > > were very large. The Mississippi Indians lived in houses with roofs > and they stayed there year-round. These Indians were > > farmers. They grew corn, beans, squash, tobacco, and sunflowers. The > Mississippi Indians buried their dead in long , > > shallow graves in areas that resembled cemeteries. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This is real good too. > > > > KENTUCKY'S STORY > > 1 Early Kentucky > > Early Indians in Kentucky (12,000 B.C.-1650 A.D.) > > http://www.cynthianaky.com/ket1.htm > > > > The last of the prehistoric people, who lived in Kentucky from 900 > A.D.-1650 A.D., were the Mississippian Indians of > > western Kentucky. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Group, > > (This is off subject of the Native tribe of Chalklevel) > > But I found this site while looking for that and it is like a must see > site for everyone. > > The author of this page has done a Kentucky History Timeline, from > 1739-1865. > > It's part of the American Local History Network for Owen County, KY. > > > > They have added in green type (personal family info) but the brown > type is like worth a read. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rootdigger/kyhistory.htm > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > anyone else? all help is appreciated, > > Vicki > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== > > Did you know you can now upload graphic files with your post at our > RootsWeb boards? > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== KYCALDWE Mailing List ==== > Please consider adding your Caldwell County data to our Caldwell County Board or our Caldwell County Genealogy KYGenWeb site. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

    04/06/2002 12:06:25
    1. oops!!
    2. Kenneth E. Gilkey
    3. I left a F out of Jim Lafoons Address It is [email protected] Ken G. \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr ********************************************************************** *****Your kygenweb homepages are***** CALDWELL http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html LYON http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html TRIGG http://www.kyseeker.com/trigg/index.html **********************************************************************

    04/06/2002 08:55:41
    1. Re: 1850 annotated Hopkins Co Census ... now searchable
    2. Don & Vicki Stewart
    3. Are they on the ball or what? The "Western Kentucky Journal * " just ran this article in the Winter 2002 issue titled, "Early Settlers of the Owen's Creek, Clear Creek, Wier's Creek, Rose Creek, Branches of the Tradewater in Hopkins County" by David A. Ralls, in which he says, "On December 21, 1795, the General Assembly of the State of Kentucky opened land for settlement, "South of the Green River Series". Several of the families who settled in the area along the northwest corner of the present day border between Hopkins and Webster County, Kentucky where the border intersects the Tradewater River were related." And another reason,.....Nancy writes, "In 1860, Webster County was formed, in part from Hopkins County, so you'll find a good many of these people [especially in District II] in the 1860 Annotated Census for Webster County by Carole Palmer." You can link from family member to family member and across county line via the comments section. The 1850 Hopkins Co. Census is online at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyhopkin/census/1850/ The 1860 Webster Co. Census is online at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kywebste/census/1860toc.htm very nice project and resource, thanks, Vicki *Western Kentucky Journal Volume IX, No.1 http://pw1.netcom.com/~cpalmer/wkj/wkj.htm

    04/06/2002 07:57:14
    1. 1850-1860 census
    2. Kenneth E. Gilkey
    3. Hey Listers, A BIG Pat on the back to Jim Lafoon, Nancy Trice and Carole Palmer for a job well done on the Hopkins & Webster Co Census!!!!!! What a project and just imagine the hours involved!! Will you not take a moment to say thank you?? You can thank them at Jim Lafoon [email protected] Nancy Trice [email protected] Carole Palmer [email protected] Ken G. \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr ********************************************************************** *****Your kygenweb homepages are***** CALDWELL http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html LYON http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html TRIGG http://www.kyseeker.com/trigg/index.html **********************************************************************

    04/06/2002 07:50:51
    1. 1850 annotated Hopkins Co Census ... now searchable
    2. Nancy Trice
    3. I have just added a Pico Search Engine to the 1850 Hopkins Co census. This should make it easy for you to search both the census and the corresponding .txt files [when there is one] for each family. I will re-index the site every weekend so check back frequently. http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyhopkin/census/1850/ Enjoy! nt

    04/05/2002 04:38:48
    1. Re: Indians-Chalk Level
    2. Kenneth E. Gilkey
    3. Another paragraph from the Sam Steger clippings... Quote: At this time (1801), the eastern boundary of the Chickasaw tribal lands was the crest of the ridge between the Cumberland and Tennessee rivers, which was only about six miles to the west of Eddyville. No settlement was permitted within the boundaries of these tribal lands. For all pratical purposes, Eddyville was located near the western limits of Livingston County. Those folks living in the Flynn's Ferry Area (now Crittenden County), or the Chaulk Level area on Tradewater River were far removed from their county seat. This created dissention...unquote ****************************************** Items in brackets ( ) are mine.. Ken G. ********************************************************************* \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr ********************************************************************** *****Your kygenweb homepages are***** CALDWELL http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html LYON http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html TRIGG http://www.kyseeker.com/trigg/index.html **********************************************************************

    04/05/2002 10:07:20
    1. Re: Indians
    2. Kenneth E. Gilkey
    3. This is NOT written in stone, but comes from Sam Steger's Clippings, Quote In the Spring of 1803, while the dividing line between the Cumberland and Tennessee Rivers was the official eastern boundary of the lands of the Chickasaw Nation, which was only four or five miles to the west of Eddyville, three Chickasaw braves wandered into the fledging town of Eddyville.......unquote At this time Eddyville was the county seat of Livingston Co., Ky. Ken G. \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----McGillekehr ********************************************************************** *****Your kygenweb homepages are***** CALDWELL http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/caldwell.html LYON http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/lyon.html TRIGG http://www.kyseeker.com/trigg/index.html **********************************************************************

    04/05/2002 06:51:54