Hi all... I've been a little busy lately, and also have been in the process of changing Internet service providers. Wanted to email and let you all know some exciting things regarding the Breck. Co. GenWeb Archives site. I just returned from spending 5 days in Breck. Co. and came away with a lot of things to hopefully help everyone out. I was able to completely photograph Old Ivy Hill Cemetery, Garfield Cemetery, Bright Whitworth Cemetery, Bruner Cemetery #3, and Hensley-Dowell Cemetery. There were several others I wanted to complete but lack of time and an overabundance of sinus troubles kept me from doing anymore than what I did in the out of doors. I also was able to get the Garfield Baptist Church roll book (I believe it's 1900 or around that time frame), and the roll book entries for Mt. Zion Baptist Church for several years within the mid 1820's to the mid/late 1830's. This particular Mt. Zion Baptist Church started out in Breckinridge County, but when Hancock County was formed from western portions of Breck. Co., this church "suddenly" found it's self moved and in another county. I wasn't able to get right now, but will within the coming month or so, the rollbooks for CloverCreek! Baptist Church and Pisgah Baptist Church. I also received permission to post the marriage listings that the Rev. James Taylor did in Breck. Co. (these were abstracted by the late Daniel "Lynn" Bolin), and permission for something very special to place on the Archives site. I was able to meet Bobby Priest while we both were in Hardinsburg at the courthouse Archives, and he not only gave permission to use his Civil War veterans records he's compiled over the many years... but has said anything he has, is there to be used. In addition to all this, I was able to get about 30-40 original wills copied. All this to say, I am really going to need more help if anyone is interested. I have the rollbooks scanned and can send the pictures via email or snail mail (on CD), I can scan the Civil War pages as well as the Rev. Taylor's marriages and do with them as I can the rollbooks. I know myself and two other ladies are knee deep in the 1870 and 1880 census' and it'll be a bit before I can fully load the other items on if I have to transcribe and then key them in. If anyone is interested, you can contact me at the following email address: brieskate@peoplepc.com I hope you all are as excited as I am at all the new stuff coming in! Happy Hunting! Dana Breckinridge County, Kentucky GenWeb Archives Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/breckinridge/toc.html Email to: brieskate@peoplepc.com

Someone in my family told me that they were told that someone once overheard someone say that the father of Berry L. HORSLEY was named "Ralph". Pretty common occurance in doing family interviews. Well, that was exactly what I was told. Berry L. HORSLEY was born about 1823 in Kentucky according to Illinois census records. Pretty slim information to work with. I posted a message on the KY list and got a reply, among many good suggestions, that stated there was a "Ralph HORSLEY", age 68, listed in the 1870 Breckinridge County census with wife Delila, age 60. About the right time frame for Berry to be a child [ at least for Ralph ] if he was one of the first couple born. This peaked my interest immediately, as would be normal. Step back n time twenty years. On the Breckinridge County web page I found a link to the 1850 census. District 2 page 63B family 258 has Rafael HORSLEY, age 48, with wife Delia, age 41, several children, a Levi HORSLEY, age 84 and Sarah, age 74. [ Ralph.............................Rafael.................................hmmmmmmmmmmmm Delia............................Delila...................double hmmmmmmmmmm ] Not an exact match but with census takers often writing down what "they" heard, well......... The time frame becomes a bit more workable with the seven year age difference instead of the ten shown in 1870. By 1850 Berry was already in Coles County Illinois married to Sarah _______ raising a family of his own so no chance of finding him listed with his parents. Berry did have a brother named Simeon and there AND there is a child listed something like Symeon, age 17, with Rafael and Delia. There was also a William HORSLEY closely associated with Berry in Coles County. There is a child William, age 15, listed on the census. SO, I guess the question then becomes: Does anyone have any further information on this/these family/families? [ even a no chance is something ] I haven't finished going through all the 1850 census pages but did find another name of interest a couple pages later. [ GANAWAY - but that's fodder for another post ] -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass then on!

Hi Judy: I'd be interested in your ARMS line as I descend from Nancy ARMS who married Adam BRUNER, Jr. They are my 3rd Great Grandparents. Do you know if Micajah ARMS is a brother to my Nancy or an Uncle? I show her sister as Rebecca Jane ARMS who married Henry [PECKENPAUGH Bet. 02 - 03 Jul 1814 in Breckinridge County, KY. Any information is appreciated. Thanks, Jan Lund Jan4Gen@verizon.net

In a message dated 4/5/2006 1:09:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, shadow23@pacbell.net writes: We've found close connections with NICHOLS, SMELSER, GROSS, BASHAM, BAKER and ARMS, mainly in Bedford Co., VA, through marriage. Then, of course, the earlier generations of PAYNE and STUMP. Judy, I'd be interested in learning more about your Basham lines and your Payne family. I am a descendent of Obediah Basham and Celia Dowell. Carolin in Oregon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Robinson, Robertson, Dooley, Wilson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/2728 Message Board Post: I have 3 Breckinridge Marriages that I'm trying to verify, all involving descendants of Littleberry Robinson (Robertson): 1. Stephen "Steve" Carman married Ollie -------, in about 1905. What was Ollie's maiden name? (Robinson, Robertson, Dooley?) Any information on Ollie's parents? 2. Peyton "Pate" Dooley married Mary Ellen -----------, between 1880-1890 What was Mary Ellen's maiden or previous married name? (Robinson, Robertson?) Any information on Mary Ellen or Pate Dooley's parents? 3. Eli Wilson married Mary Ellen ------------, in about 1892 What was Mary Ellen's maiden or previous married name? Robinson, Robertson, Dooley?) Any information on Eli Wilson's parents? There are also 3 birth records that I am trying to locate (Mary Ellen was the mother): Ollie (Robinson/Robertson/Dooley) 8 Nov 1885 or 1886 Vertie (Robinson/Robertson/Dooley) 3 Feb 1888 Charles (Robinson/Robertson) 20 Feb 1884 I would greatly appreciate a reply (here or by direct email) with anything on these marriages and/or births. Thanks, Dave Selner

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/1020.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Roberta: I will email you privately about meeting in SLC. Thank you for the information about Sarah and Elizabeth MCCOY. I think the founder, Julie Cobb, of our MCCOY group knows more about them, but I sort of got lost as to where they fit in. I found Sarah and Elizabeth through their marriages to the COBB brothers. I haven't run across the surnames RUNYON or MAY in connection with our MCCOYs. We've found close connections with NICHOLS, SMELSER, GROSS, BASHAM, BAKER and ARMS, mainly in Bedford Co., VA, through marriage. Then, of course, the earlier generations of PAYNE and STUMP. Hope to see you in SLC. Judy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rhodes/Apple Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YAB.2ACI/2727 Message Board Post: Looking for information on John Rhodes and Mary Apple. He was born in South Carolina and she was born in North Carolina. They lived in Breckinridge Co in 1880.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rhodes/Apple Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YAB.2ACI/210.442.443.454.781 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on a John Rhodes that was a minister and his wife was named Mary Apple. They lived in Breckinridge Co. in 1880. John was born in South Carolina and Mary was born in North Carolina

Charles makes a good point, as we are sending a message to a large number of (often busy) people each time we respond to someone's email on a list such as this. We need to remember that we are not just replying to the one individual on the list. When we lose interest in a certain subject, we tend to start deleting messages with that "subject line." So, if you change the subject, be sure to change the "subject line". Even if you do not change the subject, it does not hurt to modify the "subject line" to better reflect what you are adding to the dialog. It is easy to forget that you are on a large list of people and make a quick response of "thanks" or "me, too" or to ask a personal question. I suspect we have all done it a few times, but we should respond with a private message to the one individual instead of the dis-interested whole list. John G. West At 08:41 AM 4/4/2006 -0400, you wrote: >Doing this will increase the number of persons reading the message and, >therefore, benefit to the submitter as well as the other readers. Failing >to do >so will just get the messages deleted from the message list and decrease its >value to all concerned. >Thanks >Charles Severs

When making submissions to a mailing list it is important to make a subject line that will SEARCH. Also it is important for those of us who get 100 emails a day and are forced to sort and delete them when only the subject line is available and WITHOUT reading the text. Replies that just say "Thanks" or leave the subject line KYBRECKI-L and are of no benefit to the other readers should NOT be sent to the List, but to the submitter, directly, as it just takes up the time of other readers. Often they are deleted without reading as the subject line is so generic When a REPLY is sent to the list (and is of general interest) the original text can be highlighted and hit the REPLY icon and it will appear so that other readers can see what is being replied to. At this point the subject line can be changed appropriate to the reply. Doing this will increase the number of persons reading the message and, therefore, benefit to the submitter as well as the other readers. Failing to do so will just get the messages deleted from the message list and decrease its value to all concerned. Thanks Charles Severs

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/1020.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Judy, thanks for responding and the invite to join your group. You are correct that Benjamin B McCoy was born in 1794. I'm not sure what what his birth order was. I know a little something about Sarah and Elizabeth McCoy. There was a John and Daniel McCoy who lived in Campbell County, Va the same time that William and John lived in Bedford County, Va. Campbell County was formed from Bedford County. I had thought that John or Daniel might have been the father to William and John. After researching these Campbell County McCoys I discovered neither one of them could have been the father to William and John. They all appeared to be about the same age. Probably related, maybe cousins. Daniel McCoy's wife was named Hannah. They are witnesses in the Will of a John Phillips April 5, 1787 Campbell County, Va John McCoy ( Campbell County) died in 1788. His middle name was MAY. In his Will his wife was named as Martha Humpherys. This must have been a 2nd marriage because there is a marriage record for them in 1784 or 1785. In his Will he names his daughters as Sarah married to John Cobb and Elizabeth married to Jesse Cobb. ( I suspect these daughters were from another marriage.) Then he names 3 infant sons James, John, and Thomas ( probably children with wife Martha) in his Will. There are marriage records for these 3 infants ( late 1790's in Campbell County)but I don't have that info in front of me. The woman from OK who said her Grandmother Mary Angeline McCoy Girdner was related to my G Grandfather McCoy told me she remembers her grandmother saying that MAY, COBB, And RUNYONS were related to her grandmother. In Truda Williams book The McCoy's one of Old William's ( Randell's father) children married into the Runyons. I don't know if this is the same Runyon family that her grandmother talked about. I continue to research this. When you visit SLC if you have time I would love to meet you. I am usually at the library. My email is charles.l.klamm@usa.dupont.com Roberta McCoy-Klamm I have a picture of my G Grandfather John C McCoy. He was Benjamin's 3rd son with 2nd wife. He is very old in photo. I can bring you a copy if you collect McCoy photos.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/1020.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Roberta: You really must join our MCCOY mailing list! We have been together 3 years now and have discussed all sort of possibilities. But we are unanimous that our William MCOY, brother of John, is not the son of Willis MECOY of NC! Yes, I agree that John must be the brother of William, although some of the group prefer to keep him 'alleged'. The web address is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mccoyfamilygroup/. There is a John and Margaret MCCOY that crops up in the mid 1700s and I'm not sure where they fit in. We suspect that their daughters, Sarah and Elizabeth, were the ones who married the COBB brothers. My husband is the descendant of John Paine MCCOY and his second wife, Susan KENNEDY. I have Benjamin as the fifth child (b. abt. 1794) of John and Sarah? I have run across the Daniel, James and John MCCOYs that you mention. A pair of brothers, John and James, crop up often. James bought land in NC and settled down there after selling out in VA. I don't have my notes out, but I remember that he and his brother never seemed to fit in with what we knew about 'our' MCCOY family. Daniel was granted 'McCoy's Discovery' 3 Apr 1755, 44 acres (page 983d). This was from book (lost the title) 975.2 H2s at the FHL in Salt Lake. In the 1740 VA census (from FHL) Daniel is listed in Norfolk Co. Just bits and pieces so far. We are going to SLC next week for a 4 day visit to the FHL. I will tell my husband about the book "Revolutionary Patriots of Washington Co., MD'. So far we William MCCOY researchers have not found a connection to the MCCOYs of the HATFIELD-MCCOY feud, although there are members of our group who do have. Please join our MCCOY group. A search of the archives will give you an idea of what we've learned so far and there may be descendants of John and Sarah and Benjamin as current members. There are 4 or 5 of us who are working on William MCCOY specifically, and anything we find about William will pertain to John! Best wishes, Judy California

Hi all... Here's the updates/additions to the GenWeb Archives. Many thanks to Carolin Pettit for the Nannie Kennedy Dowell death certificate she submitted! Updates: Death Certificates ("D" page) Obituaries/Death Notices: pages "B", "D", "F", "H", "K", "L", "M", "R", "S", "V", "W" Happy Hunting! Dana Breckinridge County, Kentucky GenWeb Archives Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/breckinridge/toc.html Mail to: BrieSkate@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YAB.2ACI/2160.2.1.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: I sincerely Thank-You Deb for responding with this info. I will contact her. Thanks so much! Sincerely Debbie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/1020.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have studied the Willis McCoy you mention as the possible father of William and John McCoy. The info I have seen at the genealogy in SLC ( I have lived here in Utah for 3 years and spend as much time as I can at the library) doesn't quite fit with the family info I have received. My GG grandfather ( Benjamin B McCoy) was a son of John and Sarah McCoy. In the book" Kinfolk" by Opal London Cox it talks about William and Joanna Payne of Bedford County, Va. Doesn't give any info on William's parents but does mention John and Sarah McCoy of Bedford county, Va. There is a reference made regarding Thomas and John P. McCoy ( William and Joanna's sons) as being a" cousin" to Benjamin McCoy and that they served in the same unit during the War of 1812. I feel that William ( of Joanna) and John ( of Sarah) were brothers. I have also looked at genealogy message from several years ago from a Richard K McCoy. He felt that William and John were descedants of 5 Scottish brothers from Washington County, Maryland. I did find a book at the genealogy library " Revolutionay Patriots of Washington County, Maryland." There are 5 McCoy's listed pledging allegiance: Archibald McCoy,Daniel McCoy, Hugh McCoy, James Sr. McCoy, and John McCoy. Flayle Payne and Edward Payne also are listed as pleding allegiance to the revolution. Richard K McCoy said that these 5 McCoy brothers had a distinct way of signing the McCoy name. A line under the little c with 2 dots under the line. I found a WW1 registration card for my great Uncle Emett McCoy's son and that is how he signed his name on the card. I have just received info from a woman from OK. She said her grandmother Mary Angeline McCoy Girdner was related to my g grandfather John C. McCoy ( son of Benjaimin b.). Mary was born (1880) in Barbourville, Ky and migrated to OK around 1920. I found her marriage license and her father was Stephen McCoy born around 1852. Stehphen's father was Andrew McCoy killed during the civil war. Andrew's parents were John and Nancy Hatfield McCoy. I don't see a documented link yet but I do know Randall McCoy's (feud) grandfather was Archibald McCoy ( Above brother). When I was young my Uncle Lloyd McCoy told me we were related to the feuding McCoy's and a McCoy cousin told me recently that her mother talked about being related . I have been looking at Daniel McCoy ( above brother) as being William and John's father. The name Daniel is very common in the family as well as Martha ( Daniel's wife was Martha). This was a common practice back then to pass down names. I have seen fam! ily trees using this Daniel and Martha but not with proven documentation. I have seen alot of inaccuraties in family trees. Last week alot of people were complaining at the genealogy library that info that had been summitted on their family was totally wrong. A man setting next to me said " this was my grandfather and I know he didn't die in Missoui. I know when and where my grandfather died and this info is wrong!!" IAnyway, this is what I know so far. If you have a look up that might help let me know. I'm doing as much research as i can in case of a job transfer. One thing I see that is consistant is the Maryland connection. Roberta McCoy-Klamm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/1020.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The William MCCOY we are researching married Joanna PAYNE 16 Aug 1781 in Bedford Co., VA. William MCCOY (MECOY) son of Willis MECOY, married Cordilla about 1776 in Craven Co., NC . John MCCOY married Joanna's sister Sarah PAYNE about 1780 in Bedford Co., VA. There is a very complex, but circumstantial trail connecting William MCCOY with Anna MCCOY STUMP. I have copied and pasted some of the submissions to our mailing list, a big thanks to Melissa Foutz for this summary: The first William MCCOY noted below would be our purported father of William MCCOY, born about 1756-60, probably MD somewhere. "William MCCOY testified for Thomas STUMP in court in 1763 in Loudoun County. In 1764, in Loudoun County, we find that Thomas STUMP was one of 3 appraisers of the estate of William MCCOY upon his death. The executor of the estate of William MCCOY was named Ann MCCOY. So, we have a STUMP family in business with the PAYNE family in Loudoun County, and we have a William MCCOY living on propety belonging to the same STUMP family members. William MCCOY died in 1764, and "Ann MCCOY" , the executor of William MCCOY's estate shows up on the fee books of Loudoun County in 1764 and 1765. The name Ann MCCOY does not reappear after 1765. William MCCOY (Jr.) was a witness to the will of Anna's husband, John STUMP, in 1787, and a William MCCOY paid the bond for Anna STUMP on John STUMP's will, as did Anna's son in law, Thomas PRICE (husband of Margaret MCCOY, sister to our William, step daughter of John STUMP). We know that the other names listed as witnesses etc. of the estate of John STUMP in 1787 include the surnames of AYERS, NICHOLS, and PAYNE. In 1832, William MCCOY had a deed of trust for 100 acres which he stated he said was originally owned and purchased by John STUMP in 1785. The PAYNES and AYERS were all residing on Rockcastle Creek, the deeds of Thomas PRICE and Margaret MCCOY PRICE reveal them to be living on Rockcastle Creek. The deed of trust of William MCCOY in 1832 places his 100 acres on Merriman's Run which is very near Rockcastle Creek. So, essentially, we can draw a 2 or 3 mile wide circle around Merriman's Run, and the southern end of Rockcastle Creek and encompass the STUMP-MCCOY land, the PAYNEs, the AYERS, NICHOLs, and PRICE family. The only conclusion we can make from this is that William MCCOY was living in extremely close proximity to Anna MCOOY STUMP and Margaret MCCOY PRICE, and that his property (the STUMP tract) was adjacent to his PAYNE in-laws. William MCCOY must be related to Anna MCCOY STUMP, as it could not be " just a coincidence" that he is living near her, and that he owns Anna STUMP's land after her husband's death." As I say, all circumstantial but very compelling. We have not found a marriage between the elder William MCCOY and Ann(a) or the births of William, John and Margaret specifically naming their parents as William and Ann(a) MCCOY other than we know Margaret is Anna's child through other forms of records. William MCCOY died in Breckinridge Co., KY, in 1835. Judy McCoy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/1020.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks. As previously noted, the information from Norman Payne's book was gathered nearly 10 years ago, and it's good to know that a search for updated information is ongoing. Please post the results of your current research on William McCoys parentage on this site for all to see.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Moore/More, Zornes, Hogg, Hole, Rankin, Schoch, Lilley, Viers... Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YAB.2ACI/2160.2.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Debbie, I am not related, but have done some research on my husband's line that has ties to Prescott, Dayton and Walla Walla. There is the dearest lady at the Dayton City Library, the local genealogical society is within the library. Here is her info: Cemetery & Obits for Dayton/Columbia County When seeking Cemetery\Obits for families in Dayton/Columbia County you can contact this address for the data: Liz Carson 423 East Tremont Street Dayton WA. 99328 1-509-382-2480 She has indexed the local newspaper and can copy from the actual newspaper. She helped us with family that is buried at Ivy Cemetery in Prescott, she has an amazing memory and is very helpful Good Luck, Deb

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/1020.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: There are several of us across the country who belong to a MCCOY message board specifically studying William MCCOY. We have eliminated Willis MCCOY (MECOY) of NC as the father of William MCCOY who married Joanna PAYNE. We are researching William MCCOY of VA, died about 1764?, as father and there is a strong indication that the Anna MCCOY who married John STUMP (second marriage) was William's mother. Judy McCoy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/1020.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Roberta, even though the information on William McCoy appears in Norman Payne's Breckinridge book, the source of the information itself is noted by the author with the following credit: "Research of Sylvia H. Jensen, Riverton, Utah, a McCoy descendant, on file at Church of Latter-Day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah. Batch F867045, Sheet 44. (This is unproven information. It has been included because it is the best information available.)"