This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Chappell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/2746 Message Board Post: I am looking for info on Polina Chappell b abt 1861 in Meade co. Ky. Living with Brother William in 1880 in Breckinridge co. would someone be kind enough to look for a marriage for me for this brother and sister. William married an Isabelle probably about 1874 and Polina if married would be after 1880. Looking for their parents and siblings. Thanks Sue

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Johnson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/2745 Message Board Post: I am searching for information on John and William Johnson, who are listed on the 1820 & 1830 Breckinridge Co. Kentucky census. John most likely died just after 1830 and should be buried in Breckinridge Co. William is his son and relocated to Indiana in 1835.

Maria(h) Frances Watlington is indeed the daughter of Nathaniel Reed Watlington (b. 20 Dec 1814 Virginia (Norfolk?), d. 28 Sep 1888, Breckinridge County, Kentucky (probably Union Star)) and Judith Tolliver Cox (b. 22 June 1824, d. 12 May 1912, Union Star, Breckinridge County, Kentucky). Nathaniel Reed Watlington and Judith Tolliver Cox Watlingon are buried at Union Star Cemetery, Union Star, Breckinridge County, Kentucky. According to Judith's death certificate, she died of "indigestion." Tanya Curtis

The earlier date may be when the application was made, the later may be the marriage date itself. Sometimes, at least in other areas I research, the ministers were kind of late sending in the marriage data. I've seen some that were returned a couple of years after the fact. I'd be reading along in the microfilm and suddenly come upon several for earlier years that were sent in by the same minister. Alice Allen Researching Beghtol & Bruner in Breckinridge Co. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 7/5/2006 at 7:18 PM benttree@zoominternet.net wrote: <snip> Not sure about the marriage date of 8-23-1807 that was in the other. Perhaps that is >when the minister's return was sent in. There were often mistakes made in these >early records when it came to bond, marriage licenses, and marriage return >dates.

I just checked another book I have and it has basically the same transcription as I typed earlier today. Benjamin Clarke married Nancy Eskridge MATTHEWS, Bond, William Love. It is dated 8-17-1807. The difference is Bond is William LOVE, not by William Love. Since I didn't have anything that said what the transcription meant, I typed by, when it should have said he was the bondsman. Not sure about the marriage date of 8-23-1807 that was in the other. Perhaps that is when the minister's return was sent in. There were often mistakes made in these early records when it came to bond, marriage licenses, and marriage return dates.

Most likely, someone entered it into FTM wrong. The dates on many of those CDs can not be trusted. They were gotten from World Family Trees, and other Family Tree Maker submissions. I am believing that the transcription my mother has either came from microfilm, or from someone directly copying them from the courthouse. I have seen many wrong dates on the FTM CDs that can't be proven by the actual records. I am betting that 1807 was the right date. I have other marriage books for the later date, and don't see anything for Benjamin CLARK and Nancy listed on those dates.

FTM CD #229 Ky Marriages before 1850 has: Clarke, Benjamin m. Eskridge, Nancy, 17 Aug 1807, Breckinridge Co., KY Clark, Benjamin m. Mathews, Nancy, 17 Aug 1817, Breckinridge Co., KY. Because dates are similar I have to wonder did someone transcribe the data wrong or did 2 marriages become one in your mother's list. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "benttree" <benttree@zoominternet.net> To: <KYBRECKI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [KYBRECKI] Nancy Mathews and Benjamin Clark married 1817 > From a list my mother had in her library that supposedly came from > Breckinridge County, KY Marriages From Bonds & Book #1, pages 1 to 54, > May 1800 - August 1817 that were NOT compared with slips copied or checked > with county records. I do NOT know where the list was generated from. OR > who generated the typed list. It was in a notebook in my mother's > library. > > CLARK, Benjamin bondsmen: Benj. CLARK 7 Wm. RICHEY August 17, > 1807 looks like it might be the date bond was recorded. > MATTHEWS, Nancy Eskridge Wm. MATTHEWS c. 8-16-1807 > Bond: Aug. 7, 1807 > Marriage: Aug. 23, 1807 > By Wm. LOVE > > > I am assuming Wm. MATTHEWS is either a father or relative of some kind. > Some of the records actually have f. in front of the person's name to > indicate was father. This one does not. > > > ==== KYBRECKI Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen > Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stiff, Spencer, Rollins/Rawlings Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/2429.2.1 Message Board Post: In the 1870 Census for Breckinridge Co KY, I believe Eliza Quick was erroneously enumerated as a male (5 yrs old). In the 1880 Census, she is shown as a 17 yr old female. Immediately preceding the Quick family in the 1880 Census is a 49 yr old Oliver P Spencer and his 13 yr old son (same name). This page of the 1880 Census was enumerated on 2 June 1880 and on 31 Aug 1880 the elder Oliver Perry Spencer married Eliza Quick; she was his 3rd or 4th wife. During the War Between the States, the elder Spencer was a Captain in Co E 3rd Kentucky Vol Cav. Eliza and Oliver lived in Tell City IN 1880 - 1885 and then they emigrated to Monterey Co California; patenting land there in 1886. Eliza and Oliver had 6 children, the first two born in Indiana and the rest in California. Eliza outlived Oliver and subsequently married William P Beck. She died on 8 Sept 1928 in Monterey Co CA.

From a list my mother had in her library that supposedly came from Breckinridge County, KY Marriages From Bonds & Book #1, pages 1 to 54, May 1800 - August 1817 that were NOT compared with slips copied or checked with county records. I do NOT know where the list was generated from. OR who generated the typed list. It was in a notebook in my mother's library. CLARK, Benjamin bondsmen: Benj. CLARK 7 Wm. RICHEY August 17, 1807 looks like it might be the date bond was recorded. MATTHEWS, Nancy Eskridge Wm. MATTHEWS c. 8-16-1807 Bond: Aug. 7, 1807 Marriage: Aug. 23, 1807 By Wm. LOVE I am assuming Wm. MATTHEWS is either a father or relative of some kind. Some of the records actually have f. in front of the person's name to indicate was father. This one does not.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YAB.2ACI/2740.1 Message Board Post: This Nancy Matthews was the daughter of William Matthews. Nancy's father and her brother, George Matthews, left Westmoreland County, Virginia, in 1794 for Kentucky. This departure has been documented. They resided on Pleasant Run which is located near to the Falls of Rough in what is now Grayson County, Kentucky. When they arrived, the area was part of Hardin County, Kentucky. William is thought to have died about 1805 because his name no longer appeared on the tax lists in 1805. Before 1805, consent for the marriages of his daughters was given by William and MARY Matthews. We can assume that Mary was the given name of William's wife and this Nancy Matthews' mother. Mary Matthews [her maiden surname remains unknown] was listed in the Grayson County, Kentucky, Federal Census for 1810 as a head of household with children. This census is more evidence that William Matthews had died sometime between about 1804 and 1810. Perhaps this data will assist your investigation. The information was supplied to me by a Breckinridge/Grayson County, Kentucky, Matthews family historian. His name is Wayne Meador. He does not communicate via this message board. All of his information was confirmed and documented by records in his possession. If you desire to know the nature of his records, I shall need to supply you with his electronic mail address so that you may contact him directly.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: wilson,Robinson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/2728.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: I dont feel this is the same Hardin . There is a David Wilson from Brandenburg, Meade co. and you could go to the whitepages type in his name and Brandenburg and may find his address and telephone no. and maybe get some information from him. I only know this man is in his sixties and he is on the board of directors on the Rural Electric coop here . I hope you find some information and sorry I can't be of help to you on this...

Hi there Billie... Actually, I purposely set up the Bruner cemetery page that way. It saved on time building a page per cemetery, and since Bruner #2, #4, and #5 were all related (all stemming from Abraham and Nancy Penick Bruner's lines), it just seemed logical at the time. It was some months later that I was able to go with my cousins to the Bruner #3, which on the website is listed on a separate page. Thanks for the heads up, though. I appreciate it. On the, what I call "mid-century" markers, yes, they are there in the various cemeteries. With over 600 cemeteries in Breckinridge County, it's a little hard to get to them all. It seems that whenever someone died, they were buried either in the "family cemetery", the "town cemetery", or on the "family farm". I good example is Abraham and Nancy Penick Bruner. They and several of their children, grandchildren, and a couple great-grandchildren are buried at Bruner #5. While it is at the corner of Garfield-Woodrow Rd. and Arthur Carman Rd., you have to go through a field/pasture to get to the ridge it's on. Two of my cousins and I trekked it two summers ago when the bull grass was as wide as your thumb and at least 5' tall. It took us 3 hrs. to walk less than a city block to the top of the ridge, take about 8 pictures, and walk back. Heheheheee... of course we didn't count on the bog we found being in the middle of the trek up or back. Well, from this cemetery, if you travel about 2 miles or so south on Garfield-Woodrow Rd., you come across the Abram Ackley Bruner cemetery. Abram/Abraham owned this particular land (Herman Bruner, his direct descendant owns this piece of land now) and buried his direct lines... two wives, some kids and grandkids. Why did he not go about 2 miles up the road to where his parents are buried? That's a question I don't know. He may not have wanted to, or the weather/elements may have made it such that burying on the family farm was much easier. Yet, Abram's brother (my direct ancestor) Thomas Jefferson "Jefferson" is buried abt. 8-10 miles away on the southwest side of Custer off of Hwy. 690. We had to trek a mile off the road, but once we got back there, only Jefferson and his wife Charlotte are buried there... as is several of their sons, but no wives and no grandchildren. I know that land transferred down into Bruner hands and then the bloodlines aspect of the Bruner lines (even though the surname changed), but in taking a trek around the entire land, we could see where it was very likely that two houses once occupied the land. But to say who lived in them... we don't know at present. Oh... and in the Bruner Cemetery #3 that I just described above, it was the family farm at one point. I guess in writing all the above, it was to show a couple of points that I've seen in Breck. Co. Usually they buried their dead close by, and families were pretty much buried together if in a big cemetery. I wonder if one of the reasons you haven't found markers is due to the Civil War, or lack of monetary funds to purchase one. I've found some of my family without markers due to the lack of funds. So that might be a possibility. I'm finding out in researching Breck. Co. .... anything goes, and nothing surprises me anymore. What family are you looking for? I don't know if I can help, but maybe I can check into a few things and see what comes up. Dana ----- Original Message ----- From: Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> To: <KYBRECKI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [KYBRECKI] 7/4/2006 GenWeb Archives additions/updates > Couple things. > > On the tombstone photo cemetery listing page. All the Bruner links point > to the same page. Thought you would like to know if they aren't supposed to. > > As I was cruising through all the listings. It struck me that the vast > majority of the dates of death were after 1900. A few did have older > dates, but very few. I know there were people living and dieing around > there from sometime before 1800. Did they just plant them out in the > back field with no records. Don't get me wrong. I know that in various > places and times that wasn't all that uncommon a practice. The gravesite > was known for a couple generations then lost to posterity. > > The reason I'm curious about this is that I'm trying to find "any" > information on possible family in that area. The deaths of those I'm > most interested in would have been between 1850 and about 1900. The > higher date is rather pushing it. They would have been somewhere around > Hardinsburg so I would think they would have been buried somewhere close by. > > I was talking to the lady at the oldest cemetery in Enid Oklahoma, where > I come from, about locating someone. She told me that there are dozens, > possibly hundreds, of unknown/un-marked graves in that cemetery. > Sometimes they sell a plot and when the time comes to open it there is > already someone there. In older times record keeping could be rather > .......... sloppy. > > -- > > (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) > Billie Walsh > The three best words in the English Language: > "I LOVE YOU" > Pass then on! > > > ==== KYBRECKI Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release Date: 6/30/06 > >

On 07/04/2006 Dana Brown wrote: > What family are you looking for? I don't know if I can help, but > maybe I > can check into a few things and see what comes up. > > Dana Well, there can be any number of reasons for not finding a marker. Sometimes the choice of cemetery could come from whether they "liked" some of the others there. It just struck me as a bit "odd". The lack of information before about 1900. Anyway, One wold be Levi and Sarah HORSLEY/HORSELY. I would expect them to die somewhere around 1860. They were living with Rapael/Rafael/Ralph HORSLEY in the 1850 census. Haven't seen the 1860 anyplace but not listed in the household in 1870. The other would the above Rapael/Rafael/Ralph HORSLEY and wife Delia/Delila. They were both together in 1870. Don't know about anything afterwards. That's the reason I set the high end date as 1900 in my previous post. Seems to have been some confusion in the spelling of names in the early 1800's. *<[:oD Both census records I have seen list them in Hardinsburg, or at least the Hardinsburg Post Office. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass then on!

Couple things. On the tombstone photo cemetery listing page. All the Bruner links point to the same page. Thought you would like to know if they aren't supposed to. As I was cruising through all the listings. It struck me that the vast majority of the dates of death were after 1900. A few did have older dates, but very few. I know there were people living and dieing around there from sometime before 1800. Did they just plant them out in the back field with no records. Don't get me wrong. I know that in various places and times that wasn't all that uncommon a practice. The gravesite was known for a couple generations then lost to posterity. The reason I'm curious about this is that I'm trying to find "any" information on possible family in that area. The deaths of those I'm most interested in would have been between 1850 and about 1900. The higher date is rather pushing it. They would have been somewhere around Hardinsburg so I would think they would have been buried somewhere close by. I was talking to the lady at the oldest cemetery in Enid Oklahoma, where I come from, about locating someone. She told me that there are dozens, possibly hundreds, of unknown/un-marked graves in that cemetery. Sometimes they sell a plot and when the time comes to open it there is already someone there. In older times record keeping could be rather .......... sloppy. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass then on!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/2744 Message Board Post: Looking for any info on the line of Marlynne or Mary L. DAUGHERTY and Philip R. WATLINGTON b.1897. I found them in 1930 living in Ruddles Mills, Bourbon County, Kentucky. I am trying to find out if this Philip R. WATLINGTON is the son for sure or not of Nathaniel " Nat" Hugh WATLINGTON and Eliza A. DURHAM of Breckinridge County, Kentucky. Theresa theresagriffiths@iwon.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/2743 Message Board Post: I am trying to find out who the parents are of this Maria Francis Watlington? I have just the name Maria b. abt.1847 I have her as the daughter of Nathaniel Reed WADLINGTON and Judith " Judy " Tolliver COX. 1860 United States Federal Census N R Wadlington District 1, Breckinridge, KY 46 1813 Virginia Male Judy Wadlington District 1, Breckinridge, KY 36 1823 Kentucky Female Mary Wadlington District 1, Breckinridge, KY 16 1843 Kentucky Female Maria Wadlington District 1, Breckinridge, KY 12 1847 Kentucky Female Charles Wadlington District 1, Breckinridge, KY 10 1849 Kentucky Male James Wadlington District 1, Breckinridge, KY 8 1851 Kentucky Male Armstead Wadlington District 1, Breckinridge, KY 6 1853 Kentucky Male N H Wadlington District 1, Breckinridge, KY 3 1856 Kentucky Male Geo R Wadlington District 1, Breckinridge, KY 7.12 Kentucky Male Thanks, Theresa theresagriffiths@iwon.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/2742 Message Board Post: I seen a birth info for a Cora DURHAM who had a son named James H Glosscock 5 Feb 1920 in Breckinridge Co,KY. I would like to find out who this Cora's parents were? And also what the correct name is or spelling of the surname shown as GLOSSCOCK. Theresa theresagriffiths@iwon.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/2728.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the reply. I'm wondering if this is the same Hardin Wilson as my relatives. Mine was D. H. (David Hardin) Wilson (often listed as Hardin or Hart) who married Sally Northern 9 Oct 1888 in Meade County. They resided in Breckinridge and had 3 children, Eli, Laura and Exie. Eli and Exie married Robinson sister and brother. These 3 Wilson children may have been adopted, since they were all born before Hardin married Sally. Do you think this is the same Wilson line? Dave Selner

I have Smiley data with many Carman intermarriages. ----- Original Message ----- From: <sjf3837_2@hotmail.com> To: <KYBRECKI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:20 PM Subject: [KYBRECKI] Re: Breckinridge Marriages and Births - , Robinson, Wilson ,Horsley,Carman, Fentress,Smileys > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Wilson,Smiley,Robinson, Fentress, Carman > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/2728.1.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > I am related to wilson,Robinsons not the Dooleys ... my great grandfather > was Hardin Wilson, grandfather his son was coleman wilson, Father Herman > Wilson all deceased in Breck. co. have pictures of all of these plus > Hardins father Tip wilson ... I am interested in all these things since > older . also Horsley, Smiley , Fentress (Husbands family). > > > ==== KYBRECKI Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > utility address KYBRECKI-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to > unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change > the -L- to a -D- >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hamilton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YAB.2ACI/2741 Message Board Post: Samuel Hamilton is the son of James Hamilton Sr and Isbella(madien name unknown) I think Samuel was born in Virginia in 1774 he married Mary Miller May 02 1800 I know that he and his brothers went to Breckinridge Ky with there father family and at some point he went to Spencer co, Ind where he died in 1832 would like to know if he had any children and where Samuel is buried any help is greatly appreciated