I am looking for any information on the children of William Short, Jr. and Permelia "Milly" Corum. Especially on their sons, William, Thomas and Richard. Who did they marry. When did they die, etc. Any information will be appreciated. WILMA JOHNSON

I am looking for any information on the Family of William Short, Jr. and Permelia Corum, especially their son, William, Richard, and Thomas. Any information will be appreciated. WILMA JOHNSON

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Thanks so much for the Little Cemetery Information - Don't know if anyone else has family buried there, but here is a newspaper article that I found regarding my great grandfather's brother Ance Short. From the Jackson Times - December 22, 1950 - Headline: Panbowl Resident Claimed By Death - A heart attack proved fatal to Ance Short, 72 year old Panbowl resident, at his home Tuesday, December 19. Born and reared in this county, the deceased was a member of the Baptist Church and was a farmer by occupation. He was a son of the late George and Mary Short. Married July 13, 1900 to Angeline Short, who survives, he leaves eight children to mourn his passing; Mrs. R. E. Grisby, Hazard; Mrs. Malcolm Barrett, Jackson; Mrs. Dow Little, Wolverline ; Mrs. J.L. Hatfield, Harlan; Mrs. Kermit Grigsby, Knott County; Ova Short, Knott County; and Ance Short, Jr., Covington. Also surviving are a sister and brother, Mrs. Fred Thomas, Jackson; and Holt Short of Booneville and several grandchildren and great grandchildren. Funeral services for Mr. Shot will be conducted Friday afternoon, December 22, 2:00 at the Little Cemetery, Cane Creek, with the Reverend Beech Barnett officiating. Interment will follow there with Ray & Blake in charge. Michelle Williams Cole ----- Original Message ----- From: <psfitch@insightbb.com> To: <KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [KYBREATH-L] Re: KYBREATH-D Digest V03 #82 > When you go around the curve on Canoe Rd. you will see a sign for Joe > Little Fork Road on the left , if you look over to your right accross the > field and up the hill you will see the Little cemetery. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Newchase7@aol.com> > To: <KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:52 AM > Subject: [KYBREATH-L] Re: KYBREATH-D Digest V03 #82 > > > > In a message dated 9/16/2003 4:00:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > KYBREATH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > > > > Hoping someone can help me locate a cemetery in Breathitt County, > looking > > > for any information or location for the Little Cemetery on Cane Creek. > > > > > > > I saw a LIttle Cem. on the topozone map, right up close to where Canoe is > > suppose to be located. Looks like if you come in on road 3237, from road > 30, for > > about 5 miles, turn left at 3rd road, this should take into Canoe. As > this > > last road starts around a curve, the Little Cem. is shown on the right, > just > > before the curve. > > I have never been in this area - I am only reading a map - so ....... > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Breathitt County Library WebPage at > http://www.breathitt.simplenet.com > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > Help build the Breathitt County KyGenWeb site. Submit information for posting to the site. Contact Jeanette Shouse at library@tgtel.com > >

When you go around the curve on Canoe Rd. you will see a sign for Joe Little Fork Road on the left , if you look over to your right accross the field and up the hill you will see the Little cemetery. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Newchase7@aol.com> To: <KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:52 AM Subject: [KYBREATH-L] Re: KYBREATH-D Digest V03 #82 > In a message dated 9/16/2003 4:00:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > KYBREATH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > Hoping someone can help me locate a cemetery in Breathitt County, looking > > for any information or location for the Little Cemetery on Cane Creek. > > > > I saw a LIttle Cem. on the topozone map, right up close to where Canoe is > suppose to be located. Looks like if you come in on road 3237, from road 30, for > about 5 miles, turn left at 3rd road, this should take into Canoe. As this > last road starts around a curve, the Little Cem. is shown on the right, just > before the curve. > I have never been in this area - I am only reading a map - so ....... > > > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > Visit the Breathitt County Library WebPage at http://www.breathitt.simplenet.com > > >

Thanks to everyone who sent me info re the road and town of Canoe and cemeteries in that area - didn't know half the sites they sent me - and maps - so all the info sure helps me out and hopefully will make my trip back to KY easier - as far as looking for a particular gravesite. If there are any MAYS or VIRE or BECKNELL'S out there - would love to hear from you if I haven't already. Again, thanks to the nice people who answered my queries! lorene dee brand johns from OK

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Shelly Platz wrote: > HELP!!!! I am so confused! If anyone is from the STEPHEN CAUDILL & MARY ELIZABETH FIELDS line I really need your help. Stephen was supposed to be born about 1680 in Scotland & died in 1759 Lunenberg, VA. Mary was born 1698 Scotland. They were supposed to have had 9 children: > JAMES 1720 VA > WILLIAM 1724 VA > SAMPSON 1725 VA > UNKNOWN FEMALE 1730 VA > BENJAMIN 1730 VA > ISOM 1732 VA > DAVID 1734 VA > EDWARD 1736 VA > HENRYETTA 1738 VA > > Benjamin & James were supposed to have children that married. I have lots of info I got from someone & at the LDS site. I have too much to post here. Most of that info has turned out to be highly unlikely. I would love some help straightening this mess out. I have that several Caudill's married other Caudill's. > > If this sounds like your line please email me. This line lived in Wilkes County North Carolina; Lunenberg, Virginia & Kentucky(with my direct line in Breathitt County Ky) > > Thanks!!! > > Shelly Platz > Shelly, The Letcher Caudills are my husbands' line. I gave more info if needed. Brian Caudill's home page is another great resource: http://home.mpinet.net/bcaudill/kygenweb/letcher.htm Pat First Generation 1. Stephen CAUDILL, M. Born in Possibly Scotland. Caudill is a well known Melungeon Surname. The surname Caudillo (Spanish/Portuguese) was present at the St Elena Colony in 1566 (recruited by Captain Juan Pardo, a Spanish Officer most likely of Portuguese Origin. [1] A Stephen Caudill (Cordell, Cordle, or Caudle as the name spelled differently in many sources, and three of the names were used in the 3 instruments - Agreement to sell, the deed, and the acceptance of the deed - recorded one after the other in one of the deed books, by the same County Court Clerk's employee), origin unknown, who secured a small farm grant in Old Surry County, Va, moves into Brunswick Co., Va., then to Lunenberg Co., Virginia. By the slimest thread we go through a single child, James Caudill, Sr., who moves to N.C. Two of his sons become Revolutionary Soldiers of the N. C. Line, Stephen and James, Jr. Following the War, three of the sons move to S. C., James Jr., Matthew and Thomas. James, Jr. and Matthew return to Wilkes Co., N. C. for a while before moving on to the Letcher County area of Kentucky. Thomas does not return to N.C. but moves to the Western part of Kentucky. Another son, Stephen, remains in Wilkes County through the 1810 census, but later in August that year, he is one of the Charter members of the Indian Bottom Baptist Church formed that summer in the present Letcher County area. The youngest son, Abner, remained in the home county of Wilkes. Were there other children or daughters of this family? If so, they were not found.[2] Stephen married Mary, F. They had the following children: 2 i. James, M (~1720-~1784) 3 ii. Sampson, M 4 iii. William, M 5 iv. Benjamin, M 6 v. Isham, M 7 vi. David, M Second Generation Family of Stephen CAUDILL (1) & Mary 2. James CAUDILL Sr, M. Born abt 1720 in Old Surry Co, Virginia.[2] James died abt 1784; he was 64.[2] James appears on the 1752 Lunenburg County, VA, Tax List which would indicate he was 21 years old, or older, being of military age. The 1784 North Carolina census states he was over 60 years of age, thus born before 1724. Neither James nor his sons are listed in the 1782 Wilkes County, NC, Tax List, yet his sons, James Jr. and Stephen served in the Revolution from Wilkes County in 1780. A James Coddle bought 140 acres on November 2, 1784, from Benjamin Morgan for 50 pounds (Wilkes County Deed Book A-1, Page 452). The land was located on Sandy Creek, near the Fork of Brush Creek on the Middle Fork of Roaring River. It ran west to Hamons Creek including an improvement made on this land by Henry Gambrill. The following minutes of the Old Roaring River Baptist Church of Wilkes County, NC, may apply to James Caudill, Sr., and his wife Mary, or it is possible that it applies to his son James Caudill, Jr., and his wife Mary: * Saturday ye 12th of July 1787: The Church setting to order Bro Thomas Morgan & Sister Morgan joined by letter and also Bro James Caudill joined by experience. * Saturday ye 8th of September 1787: Also the Church setting to order and etc. As also the Church recvd Bro James Caudill into fellowship and he was Baptised. * Saturday ye 13th of July 1788: Also Sister Mary Caudill joined by experience and Baptism. * Saturday ye 12th of August 1790: The Church setting in Order the Church thought proper to deny James and Mary Caudill Fellowship for telling big storys such as Church could not credit and then refusing to hear Church. * Saturday ye 12th of August ????: The Church setting in order, and etc. Also the Church delt with Bro James Caudill for saying he read three chapters by head and that he thought he could read the Testament without the book, and that he retained that notion for near twelve months, the church could not disprove, and so concluded to lay it over and look to the Lord and try to get better satisfied. On November 3, 1799, James Caudill, Sr., "for goodwill he has for his son Abner Caudill" deeds his 140 acre tract on Sandy Creek of Roaring River. Matthew and Stephen Caudill, witnesses. Just when and where James and Mary died is not known. It is believed James probably died and is buried in Wilkes County, NC.[2] ABT. 1 JAN 1747/48 when James was 27, he married Mary YARBOROUGH[2], F, in Lunenburg Co, Virginia.[2] Mary's maiden name of Yarborough or Yarbrough has never been proven and it is not known exactly where it originated. However, there is a Surry County, NC, marriage record for a James Caudle and Mary Yarbrough on January 22, 1849. This James Caudle was born ca. 1823 and was the son of William and Gracie (Broadway) Caudle (reference "Appalachia Crossroads: The Caudill Family", pages 2036 and 2039). It is not know at this time how this James Caudle connects with James Caudill, Sr., if indeed he does at all.[2] They had the following children: 8 i. James, M (~1753-1840) 9 ii. Stephen, M (~1763-1839) 10 iii. Thomas Aaron, M (1764-1848) 11 iv. Matthew, M (~1766-) 12 v. Abner, M (~1773-) 3. Sampson CAUDILL[3], M. 4. William CAUDILL[3], M. 5. Benjamin CAUDILL[3], M. 6. Isham CAUDILL[3], M. 7. David CAUDILL[3], M. Sources 1. N Brent Kennedy, The Melungeons, The Resurrection of a Proud People, Mercer University Press, Macon, Georgia, Published 1997. 2. Descendants of James Caudill, Sr, Brian K. Caudill, Electronic. TDATE July 2000SUBM http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/u/Brian-K-Caudill 3. Family Histories of Letcher County, Letcher Co Geneology Society, Book, Breathitt Co Public Library. 4. Susan Vargas, Descendants of Benjamin Caudill, sevargus@mediaone.net, 2000. 5. Dr Wilgus Back File, Dr.Wilgus Back Files, Breathitt Public Library, Book. 6. Appalachian Crossroads, Clayton R Cox, Gateway Press, Inc, Book. 7. 1850 Perry Co, KY Census, Online, 2003. 8. Mullins Family of East Ky and SW Virginia, Cornelius Carroll, Book. DATE Published 2000 9. 1880 Breathitt Census, Electronic. 10. Kandy Back Agee e-mail, Joe - wbartist51@@aol.com, Electronic. TYPE E-Mail MessageSUBM Kandy Back Agee DATE Oct 11, 1999 11. A Back Family History, Volume I & II,, Book, 5/20/2000. 12. Descendants of John Webb, Sr, Brian K. Caudill, 2000. 13. Elmer & Olga Caudill Interview, 1999. Interview DATE 1999 14. Allen's Master File 6_2001.FTW, Allen Hounshell, Other, Date of Import: Dec 14, 2001. 15. Maxine Caudill Back, Handwritten Geneology Notes, April 2002 16. 1900 Breathitt Census, Electronic. 17. Descendants of Marion Pugh,marionpugh.FTW, Regina Hall-hallr1_99@@yahoo.com, Electronic. Patricia Riley Caudill Jackson, Ky 41339 pcaudill@tgtel.com

In a message dated 9/16/2003 4:00:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, KYBREATH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Hoping someone can help me locate a cemetery in Breathitt County, looking > for any information or location for the Little Cemetery on Cane Creek. > I saw a LIttle Cem. on the topozone map, right up close to where Canoe is suppose to be located. Looks like if you come in on road 3237, from road 30, for about 5 miles, turn left at 3rd road, this should take into Canoe. As this last road starts around a curve, the Little Cem. is shown on the right, just before the curve. I have never been in this area - I am only reading a map - so .......

In a message dated 9/16/03 4:00:47 AM, KYBREATH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Only have one problem - is the Canoe Rd. before or after crossing Old Buck bridge? >> Canoe Road is #3237 on the East side of the bridge. It's the one before the bridge when traveling west from Jackson. It runs along the East side of Middle Fork River t Canoe and on toward Whick. The road on the West side is #315 and goes to Sebastians Branch and Talbot.

<< Where can I find the USGS maps? > >> Go here for an Index to all the Breathitt Cemeteries. It will lead you to the USGS maps: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kybreath/cemetery/cemeteries.htm When you find the one you want, or think it is, click on the name. It will take you to another page giving data. Click on the first line below the box - TopoZone.com. That will get you a map showing the exact location of the cemetery.

Post Script: The coordinates are in Degrees, Minutes, Seconds, abbreviated D/M/S. This is what you would click on Topozone to type them in. Monty > Thanks Monty, > Where can I find the USGS maps? > > Thanks, > Michelle > > > There are two on the USGS maps. > > > > Little Cemetery KY Breathitt cemetery 373246N 0832917W Jackson > > Little Cemetery KY Breathitt cemetery 373248N 0832445W Jackson > > > > You can use the Latitude and Longitude coordinates above and locate them > on > > Topozone.com > > Monty Reed >

Hi Michelle, You can buy them at any big city map store, or order them. Put "USGS maps" without the quotes in to the Google or Yahoo search engine and they will give you dozens of places to buy them, with phone numbers. In the examples given, you would want the Jackson, Ky, quadrangle, 7.5' series. The Breathitt library would likely have a few of the local areas. It's much easier (and free) to go to www.topozone.com , click upper left, type in the coordinates, and a red X will mark the spot. I seem to remember you have to enter the longitude as a -083 since we are west of Greenwich. If you spend a little time with topozone, you will see enough to locate the cemeteries on an ordinary highway map (the Topozone maps are topographical although roads are shown). It's much easier than it sounds. You just need a little practice. This is a powerful tool if you look for places. Hope this helps. Monty Reed > Thanks Monty, > Where can I find the USGS maps? > > Thanks, > Michelle > > > There are two on the USGS maps. > > > > Little Cemetery KY Breathitt cemetery 373246N 0832917W Jackson > > Little Cemetery KY Breathitt cemetery 373248N 0832445W Jackson > > > > You can use the Latitude and Longitude coordinates above and locate them > on > > Topozone.com > > Monty Reed > > > > > > Hoping someone can help me locate a cemetery in Breathitt County, > looking > > for any information or location for the Little Cemetery on Cane Creek. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Michelle Cole

Thanks Monty, Where can I find the USGS maps? Thanks, Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Montford Reed" <montyreed@comcast.net> To: <KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [KYBREATH-L] Cane Creek - Little Cemetery > There are two on the USGS maps. > > Little Cemetery KY Breathitt cemetery 373246N 0832917W Jackson > Little Cemetery KY Breathitt cemetery 373248N 0832445W Jackson > > You can use the Latitude and Longitude coordinates above and locate them on > Topozone.com > Monty Reed > > > > Hoping someone can help me locate a cemetery in Breathitt County, looking > for any information or location for the Little Cemetery on Cane Creek. > > > > Thanks, > > Michelle Cole > > > > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > Visit the Breathitt County Library WebPage at http://www.breathitt.simplenet.com > > >

There are two on the USGS maps. Little Cemetery KY Breathitt cemetery 373246N 0832917W Jackson Little Cemetery KY Breathitt cemetery 373248N 0832445W Jackson You can use the Latitude and Longitude coordinates above and locate them on Topozone.com Monty Reed > > Hoping someone can help me locate a cemetery in Breathitt County, looking for any information or location for the Little Cemetery on Cane Creek. > > Thanks, > Michelle Cole > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > > >

Hoping someone can help me locate a cemetery in Breathitt County, looking for any information or location for the Little Cemetery on Cane Creek. Thanks, Michelle Cole

I forwarded this to my cousin who is from Canoe. Here is what she knows about it: Hi Shelly, My mom is from Canoe and I was born there too. My grandma and grandpa Spicer lived about a mile below the Canoe community where the post office was but they were still considered Canoe. My aunt Amy, who still lives there does not know of a cemetery called Canoe. Most of them were named after the families like Henry Turner Cemetery and Henry Spicer Cemetery. People that live on that road used to have box numbers for their mail and now it is called Canoe Road. Wish I could be of more help. Thelma --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Canoe Cemetery The inquiry re cemeteries located on USGS (is that a highway?) Canoe interested me as my great-great grandfather is supposed to be buried in Canoe cemetery in Breathitt Co - my mom Opal Mays Brand and I tried to find the "Canoe" cemetery and went along a road that had several cemeteries on it (along the river) and did notice some Spicer cemeteries but never one that said Canoe - does anyone know for sure where Canoe cemetery is? and is there a cemetery book/listing that would note those buried there? I'm looking for Thomas Mays b 1807 d 1859 buried Canoe Ford? KY m Nancy Becknell. If anyone can help, please let me know - planning another trip back to Breathitt Co and would sure like to get some pictures/find this Canoe or Canoe Ford cemetery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dee Johns e-mail direct at SnowJohns@aol.com

Volumn 4 book-#33 listing in the Buddy Spicer Cemetery John South Spicer 1897-1958 ~May all your family trees branch toward the stars~ Jerri Conrad 104 Tari Ct. Hamilton, Oh. 45013 JerriBudCnrd@aol.com

O.K. folks - now I have located (on USGS) Canoe and many cemeteries there. AND there are TWO Spicer cemeteries. One very near Canoe, and the other one across the river. This is who I am looking for - Ruby Jewel Gosney(9/15/1907 Bracken Co., KY - mar. John South Spicer (c.1894 Whick, KY - c. 1960’s English, IN,bur. Buddy Spicer Cem., Jackson, KY Can anyone tell me which cemetery they are in? Beth