You can still have the deceased brought to your church or home after the embalming. Windwalker <windwalker@fastmail.fm> wrote:Still done in some parts. Its was highly done up until the 50,s. A person would pass and the family would wash and dress the person in their best clothes.And lay them out in the parlor. Two Quarters or Silver Dollars were placed on the eyes. Mouth was filled full of cotton batting or quilt backing. The windows were opened to help cool the room. Most times the person was buried as soon as possible. Unless the ground was froze and sometime they would wait till spring. People would sit up with the decease. No "eats" would be done in the same room that was reserved till after the burying. The grave would be handdug and the service concluded. The practice was mostly stopped due to embalming rules and crypt laws. Although most were buried in wood coffins. The practice has changed in more recent times from that of several years ago, due to laws. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today

Yes, Linda. I have been to several. Hi, wasn't that also called a "Wake"? I've never been to one but I hear that was the "thing to do" when someone passed on. Lynda --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today

Sometimes my family still does this. They live in the Breathitt and Wolfe County areas. Karen <gtskjs@mvn.net> wrote:I have so enjoyed all the messages in this thread. The "Yankees" probably also aren't familiar with "sitting up with the dead." Have any of you had personal experience with this custom? I know that it was customary for family and friends to come in and sit. The body was always at the house until the "burying" and the oldtimers would never have allowed everyone to go to bed without someone staying up with the body, at least two people usually sat in the room with the body. Other neighbors brought food for those who came in to sit. Anyone else remember this? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today

The University of Kentucky Library has several microfilms of papers, one being the Jackson Times. Don't know if it was still that name in 1946 or not, but you could go to the UK Library web page and you can search for a lot of things on there. Or e-mail the librarian and ask if they have a Breathitt paper that covers June 1946. The library at Jackson, Ky. might even have a microfilm of the newspaper for that time. > [Original Message] > From: <Critterann1369@aol.com> > To: <KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/6/04 8:23:48 AM > Subject: [KYBREATH-L] Re: KYBREATH-D Digest V04 #48 > > In a message dated 4/5/2004 10:31:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, > KYBREATH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Hello, > > I just received a DC for Ressie Large, wife of Creight Large and > daughter of Sherman and Jennie Bailey Large. Ressie was born August 12, > 1915 and was murdered on June 24, 1946. > > Does anyone know if there is any resource to find out what happened to > Ressie, ie newspapers or such? Somewhere I could write to as I am far > away and can not get to a library or courthouse there. I have no idea > who Creight Large was but Ressie was the grand daughter of Samuel and > Nancy Jane Holbrook Large. > > Thanks for your help, > Marcia Hurtt > Hi Marcia, I did a search on ancestry.com newspapers and nothing came up. Ive > had a similar thing where my ggrandmother Am,anda Vires Gabbard was suppossed > to have been murdered by her husband William Gabbard but the only thing I > have found to support that is on Jackson Co, Ky web site there was only the > names and the year. Im sorry I wasnt able to help more. > Crystal Farris > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== >

In a message dated 4/5/2004 10:31:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, KYBREATH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Hello, I just received a DC for Ressie Large, wife of Creight Large and daughter of Sherman and Jennie Bailey Large. Ressie was born August 12, 1915 and was murdered on June 24, 1946. Does anyone know if there is any resource to find out what happened to Ressie, ie newspapers or such? Somewhere I could write to as I am far away and can not get to a library or courthouse there. I have no idea who Creight Large was but Ressie was the grand daughter of Samuel and Nancy Jane Holbrook Large. Thanks for your help, Marcia Hurtt Hi Marcia, I did a search on ancestry.com newspapers and nothing came up. Ive had a similar thing where my ggrandmother Am,anda Vires Gabbard was suppossed to have been murdered by her husband William Gabbard but the only thing I have found to support that is on Jackson Co, Ky web site there was only the names and the year. Im sorry I wasnt able to help more. Crystal Farris

Thanks so much for your replies, Crystal, Elizabeth and Wilma!! I am going to try those places today to see if they can help me. I sure appreciate this!!!! Marcia > > I just received a DC for Ressie Large, wife of Creight Large and > > daughter of Sherman and Jennie Bailey Large. Ressie was > born August > > 12, 1915 and was murdered on June 24, 1946. > > > > Does anyone know if there is any resource to find out what > happened to > > Ressie, ie newspapers or such? Somewhere I could write to > as I am far > > away and can not get to a library or courthouse there. I > have no idea > > who Creight Large was but Ressie was the grand daughter of > Samuel and > > Nancy Jane Holbrook Large. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > Marcia Hurtt

Hi Valerie, On Ressie Large's DC it lists a Jennie Bailey as her mother and Sherman Large as her father. Any relation to your Bailey family? They were in Rousseau. Ressie Bailey was born August 12, 1915 and was murdered on June 24, 1946. Thanks, Marcia > > > Jess Bailey's parents were Rueben and Nancy (Joseph) Bailey. > RB Joseph's > daughter, Dovie, was married to Joe Miller. I'm related to > the Joseph family > through my mother. The Joseph family is related to alot of > families from > Eastern KY. My Grandfather had 19 children and his father had > 22. Valerie

I've heard of this custom many times but have never seen or been to one. I may be a Yankee but I have Eastern Tennessee blood running through my veins. Thanks for all these stories, they are great! Cheryl Karen <gtskjs@mvn.net> wrote: I have so enjoyed all the messages in this thread. The "Yankees" probably also aren't familiar with "sitting up with the dead." Have any of you had personal experience with this custom? I know that it was customary for family and friends to come in and sit. The body was always at the house until the "burying" and the oldtimers would never have allowed everyone to go to bed without someone staying up with the body, at least two people usually sat in the room with the body. Other neighbors brought food for those who came in to sit. Anyone else remember this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Windwalker" To: Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [KYBREATH-L] Preachin on the Ground > Lots of customs, that are seldom heard of > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:01 PM > Subject: Re: [KYBREATH-L] Preachin on the Ground > > > > I enjoyed your email about early customs at family cemeteries. > > Bill > > > > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > > Have time to copy cemetery information into a database? Contact Jeanette > Shouse at library@tgtel.com. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > Help build the Breathitt County KyGenWeb site. Submit information for posting to the site. Contact Jeanette Shouse at library@tgtel.com > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today

In a message dated 4/6/2004 1:46:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, vjbrook@hotmail.com writes: > Jess Bailey's parents were Rueben and Nancy (Joseph) Bailey. RB Joseph's > daughter, Dovie, was married to Joe Miller. I'm related to the Joseph family > > through my mother. The Joseph family is related to alot of families from > Eastern KY. My Grandfather had 19 children and his father had 22. > Valerie > Thanks, I don't see them in my tree. Charlotte http://www.geocities.com/charlotte7274/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore

Jess Bailey's parents were Rueben and Nancy (Joseph) Bailey. RB Joseph's daughter, Dovie, was married to Joe Miller. I'm related to the Joseph family through my mother. The Joseph family is related to alot of families from Eastern KY. My Grandfather had 19 children and his father had 22. Valerie >From: CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com >Reply-To: KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com >To: KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [KYBREATH-L] Preachin on the Ground >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 00:18:00 EDT > >In a message dated 4/6/2004 12:15:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, >vjbrook@hotmail.com writes: > > > I experienced this only once, and that was in the 1960's. My cousin had > > passed away. He was layed out at his home. There was church services the > > whole night, by cousin, Jess Bailey and my grandfather, EP Joseph. This >was > > in Medaryville, IN. > > > > Valerie > > > >Valerie, > >Are you related to the Bailey's who are related the Miller's? > >Thanks, >Charlotte >http://www.geocities.com/charlotte7274/ >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore > > > > > >==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/

In a message dated 4/6/2004 12:15:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, vjbrook@hotmail.com writes: > I experienced this only once, and that was in the 1960's. My cousin had > passed away. He was layed out at his home. There was church services the > whole night, by cousin, Jess Bailey and my grandfather, EP Joseph. This was > in Medaryville, IN. > > Valerie > Valerie, Are you related to the Bailey's who are related the Miller's? Thanks, Charlotte http://www.geocities.com/charlotte7274/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore

In a message dated 4/5/2004 11:14:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, gtskjs@mvn.net writes: > I have so enjoyed all the messages in this thread. The "Yankees" probably > also aren't familiar with "sitting up with the dead." Have any of you had > personal experience with this custom? I know that it was customary for > family and friends to come in and sit. The body was always at the house > until the "burying" and the oldtimers would never have allowed everyone to > go to bed without someone staying up with the body, at least two people > usually sat in the room with the body. Other neighbors brought food for > those who came in to sit. Anyone else remember this? > *************************************************************** Hi, wasn't that also called a "Wake"? I've never been to one but I hear that was the "thing to do" when someone passed on. Lynda

In a message dated 4/5/2004 11:14:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, gtskjs@mvn.net writes: > I have so enjoyed all the messages in this thread. The "Yankees" probably > also aren't familiar with "sitting up with the dead." Have any of you had > personal experience with this custom? I know that it was customary for > family and friends to come in and sit. The body was always at the house > until the "burying" and the oldtimers would never have allowed everyone to > go to bed without someone staying up with the body, at least two people > usually sat in the room with the body. Other neighbors brought food for > those who came in to sit. Anyone else remember this? > Hi, My family did that too. They were from Bell County, Ky. The last one that we did that with was my Uncle Eph Hooker in 1980. It was a good time because the families were all together then. Only we sat at the funeral home with him instead of at someone's house. Charlotte http://www.geocities.com/charlotte7274/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore

I experienced this only once, and that was in the 1960's. My cousin had passed away. He was layed out at his home. There was church services the whole night, by cousin, Jess Bailey and my grandfather, EP Joseph. This was in Medaryville, IN. Valerie _________________________________________________________________ Free up your inbox with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Multiple plans available. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/

Still done in some parts. Its was highly done up until the 50,s. A person would pass and the family would wash and dress the person in their best clothes.And lay them out in the parlor. Two Quarters or Silver Dollars were placed on the eyes. Mouth was filled full of cotton batting or quilt backing. The windows were opened to help cool the room. Most times the person was buried as soon as possible. Unless the ground was froze and sometime they would wait till spring. People would sit up with the decease. No "eats" would be done in the same room that was reserved till after the burying. The grave would be handdug and the service concluded. The practice was mostly stopped due to embalming rules and crypt laws. Although most were buried in wood coffins. The practice has changed in more recent times from that of several years ago, due to laws. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen" <gtskjs@mvn.net> To: <KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [KYBREATH-L] Preachin on the Ground > I have so enjoyed all the messages in this thread. The "Yankees" probably > also aren't familiar with "sitting up with the dead." Have any of you had > personal experience with this custom? I know that it was customary for > family and friends to come in and sit. The body was always at the house > until the "burying" and the oldtimers would never have allowed everyone to > go to bed without someone staying up with the body, at least two people > usually sat in the room with the body. Other neighbors brought food for > those who came in to sit. Anyone else remember this? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Windwalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> > To: <KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:30 PM > Subject: Re: [KYBREATH-L] Preachin on the Ground > > > > Lots of customs, that are seldom heard of > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <BRogers386@aol.com> > > To: <KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [KYBREATH-L] Preachin on the Ground > > > > > > > I enjoyed your email about early customs at family cemeteries. > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > > > Have time to copy cemetery information into a database? Contact > Jeanette > > Shouse at library@tgtel.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > > Help build the Breathitt County KyGenWeb site. Submit information for > posting to the site. Contact Jeanette Shouse at library@tgtel.com > > > > > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > > > >

I have so enjoyed all the messages in this thread. The "Yankees" probably also aren't familiar with "sitting up with the dead." Have any of you had personal experience with this custom? I know that it was customary for family and friends to come in and sit. The body was always at the house until the "burying" and the oldtimers would never have allowed everyone to go to bed without someone staying up with the body, at least two people usually sat in the room with the body. Other neighbors brought food for those who came in to sit. Anyone else remember this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Windwalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> To: <KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [KYBREATH-L] Preachin on the Ground > Lots of customs, that are seldom heard of > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <BRogers386@aol.com> > To: <KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:01 PM > Subject: Re: [KYBREATH-L] Preachin on the Ground > > > > I enjoyed your email about early customs at family cemeteries. > > Bill > > > > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > > Have time to copy cemetery information into a database? Contact Jeanette > Shouse at library@tgtel.com. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > Help build the Breathitt County KyGenWeb site. Submit information for posting to the site. Contact Jeanette Shouse at library@tgtel.com > >

Hello, I just received a DC for Ressie Large, wife of Creight Large and daughter of Sherman and Jennie Bailey Large. Ressie was born August 12, 1915 and was murdered on June 24, 1946. Does anyone know if there is any resource to find out what happened to Ressie, ie newspapers or such? Somewhere I could write to as I am far away and can not get to a library or courthouse there. I have no idea who Creight Large was but Ressie was the grand daughter of Samuel and Nancy Jane Holbrook Large. Thanks for your help, Marcia Hurtt

Lots of customs, that are seldom heard of ----- Original Message ----- From: <BRogers386@aol.com> To: <KYBREATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [KYBREATH-L] Preachin on the Ground > I enjoyed your email about early customs at family cemeteries. > Bill > > > ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== > Have time to copy cemetery information into a database? Contact Jeanette Shouse at library@tgtel.com. > > > >

I enjoyed your email about early customs at family cemeteries. Bill

I'm sure we would all like to here more. Tell us the long story about the haints and boogers. We all need to know more about how our people lived and what the customs of their times were. The day to day things that tend to get overlooked as we busily record their names and data. Archie Windwalker <windwalker@fastmail.fm> wrote:Its a long standing custom in Kentucky going back to Colonial Times. In recent times it has changed little in appearance or "customs". As most know, the older cemeteries are "family owned" So it was a custom each spring to go a visiting the deceased. Most cemeteries are extremely hard to get to or on ridge tops or forgot creek property. Mostly done on weekends if at all possible or holidays. Was a time for preaching, food and frolic {within reason} In our line, it was also a time to preach and take up serpents. Foot washing, baptism and the like was sometimes done all after a successful "meeting". Some "lines" also used it as a time to rid themselves of haints and boogers. {Long Story} Some of the more remote areas had a wilder meeting ==== KYBREATH Mailing List ====