> Has anyone else found ANY of the sons of David & Lucinda in 1920? > Their daughter Rilda age 16 is living with Simon & Bethany but I can't > find anyone else. David & Lucinda could have died and Bethany is > raising Rilda. Did John, Cornelius, & Harlis maybe go away to > work??? I have Heritage Quest and can't find anything on it. Of > course, there are a few pages of each census that were just impossible > to read but surely they wouldn't all three be missing. Anyone know if > John & Cornelius married? All of the Stacys were in Knott County in > 1900 but I don't find any Russells there in 1920. This is quite a > puzzle. > > Karen Hey Karen, You are correct about these Russell's, they are elusive. Some KDI listings; RUSSELL CORNELIUS 081 BREATHITT BREATHITT 01-07-1975 001 00186 1975 RUSSELL DAVID 049 BREATHITT 01-31-1916 013 06339 1916 RUSSELL JOHN C 093 BREATHITT BREATHITT 10-01-1991 050 24698 1991 STACY BETHANEY 032 BREATHITT 05-11-1923 026 12766 1923 I believe these are probably the Russell's we are looking for. Couldn't locate anything on Lucinda, Harlis or Rilda. Lucinda may have remarried after David died as she was still young and may be why Rilda was living with her sister Bethany. I can't say why we aren't finding these folks in the Breathitt census for 1920, they should be there, but they aren't. Will pass on anything else I happen to find on these folks. Freddie

Has anyone else found ANY of the sons of David & Lucinda in 1920? Their daughter Rilda age 16 is living with Simon & Bethany but I can't find anyone else. David & Lucinda could have died and Bethany is raising Rilda. Did John, Cornelius, & Harlis maybe go away to work??? I have Heritage Quest and can't find anything on it. Of course, there are a few pages of each census that were just impossible to read but surely they wouldn't all three be missing. Anyone know if John & Cornelius married? All of the Stacys were in Knott County in 1900 but I don't find any Russells there in 1920. This is quite a puzzle. Karen Carter L Combs wrote: >>Carter, you have any dates on Harlis Russell and Martha Stacy, like >>death dates or anything? >> >>Freddie >> >> > >Freddie > >Checked the Kentucky Death Index and did not find a Harlis Russell or a >Martha Russell of approx their age in Breathitt or surrounding counties. >There was a Harlas Russell that died in Breathitt Co in 1941 at age 16. > >Carter > > >==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== >Have time to copy cemetery information into a database? Contact Jeanette Shouse at library@tgtel.com. > > > > > > >

> > Carter, you have any dates on Harlis Russell and Martha Stacy, like > death dates or anything? > > Freddie Freddie Checked the Kentucky Death Index and did not find a Harlis Russell or a Martha Russell of approx their age in Breathitt or surrounding counties. There was a Harlas Russell that died in Breathitt Co in 1941 at age 16. Carter

> > > >Freddie > >Checked the Kentucky Death Index and did not find a Harlis Russell or a >Martha Russell of approx their age in Breathitt or surrounding counties. >There was a Harlas Russell that died in Breathitt Co in 1941 at age 16. > >Carter > Yea, I saw that. They just seem to disappear after the 1910 census, at least so far anyway. I'll keep looking for them and let you know if I find anything. Wonder if the SSDI would have anything, I'll check that. Freddie

> > > >Freddie and Karen > >I have two Bethany/Bithania Russell's. One b 1873, m George Ritchie and the >other, b 1890, no spouse listed. Is the one b 1890 the one married to Simon >Stacy? > Carter, Yes, I believe so, at least that's the birth date I have for her. The census ages seem to bear this out. Here is the 1910 and 1920 census for her; 1910 Breathitt Co. Ky Census - 16 May 1910 Elliottsville Precinct, E.D. 15, p.186B, h.h. (None given); STACY, Simon, head, w, m, 23, m1 2yrs, Ky, Farmer; Bethania, wife, w, f, 18, m1 2yrs, 1/1, Ky, Housekeeper; John M., son, w, m, ?/12, s, Ky. 1920 Breathitt Co. Ky Census - 26 Jan 1920 Mag Dist 8, Elliottsville, E.D. 56, p. 273A, h.h. 202/202; STACY, Simon, head, w, m, 32, m, Ky; Bithania, wife, w, f, 28, m, Ky; John M., son, w, m, 12, s, Ky; Lucinda, dau, w, f, 10, s, Ky; Sarah, dau, w, f, 8, s, Ky; David, son, w, m, 5, s, Ky; Andy, son, w, m, 1, s, Ky; RUSSELL, Ridibe, S-in-Law, w, f, 16, s, Ky. Carter, you have any dates on Harlis Russell and Martha Stacy, like death dates or anything? Freddie

> > Hope I am not out of line by responding to your message. I don't know if > Carter shows Bithania Russell married to Simon Stacy, but I do. I didn't > have Bethany/Bithania's parents or family until Carter gave it to me, > but I do have Simon Stacy's family. Simon was s/o William Barlow Stacy > and Sarah Ann "Sally" Ritchie. William Barlow was s/o John Stacy and > Cynthia Smith; he was also a brother to my GGGF Manford "Dock" Stacy. > > Freddie Wilson Freddie and Karen I have two Bethany/Bithania Russell's. One b 1873, m George Ritchie and the other, b 1890, no spouse listed. Is the one b 1890 the one married to Simon Stacy? Carter

> > >It looks like Martha was the daughter of Manford although the age is off in >1910, she is still living at home. She is the only Martha Stacy in Breathitt >in 1910. > Hi Yvonne, Yes, believe you are correct. It's the only Martha Stacy I have been able to find. Carter Combs lists her as marrying Harlis Russell in 1912, and the Ky Birth index does list her as having several Russell children. However, I can't seem to find this Russell family in the 1920 or 1930 Breathitt census, at least so far. I am going through the 1920 Breathitt census right now and have viewed all but about 4 precincts, but no Harlis Russell family yet. They must be there as the KBI shows her having children in Breathitt county from 1913 through 1923. Freddie

It looks like Martha was the daughter of Manford although the age is off in 1910, she is still living at home. She is the only Martha Stacy in Breathitt in 1910. 1910 Breathitt Co KY Md Stacy 61 md 40 years KY Lunnie 56 13 children born/11 living KY Hiram 21 KY Martha 15 ***** William J. 13 1900 Knott Co KY Manford Stacy Feb 1848 52 md. 28 yrs Luna Mch 1853 47 14 children born/ 12 living Henry 20 Mack 17 Hiram 14 Martha 12 June 1888 ******** Willie 4 1880 Perry Co KY Manford Stacy 35 Luney 25 Betty Ann 12 George A. 10 Octavi 8 female Nancy 6 James 1 all the children here are marked as "other" Yvonne

> Carter, do you show Bethany Russell married to Simon Stacy? > > Karen Hi Karen, Hope I am not out of line by responding to your message. I don't know if Carter shows Bithania Russell married to Simon Stacy, but I do. I didn't have Bethany/Bithania's parents or family until Carter gave it to me, but I do have Simon Stacy's family. Simon was s/o William Barlow Stacy and Sarah Ann "Sally" Ritchie. William Barlow was s/o John Stacy and Cynthia Smith; he was also a brother to my GGGF Manford "Dock" Stacy. Freddie Wilson

Carter, do you show Bethany Russell married to Simon Stacy? Karen Carter L Combs wrote: >>Carter you are just a wealth of information and I really appreciate your >>help. Now for the real question I need to know; Who were the parents of >>Martha Stacy? Still looking for some of Manford "Dock" Stacy's children >>and he had a daughter Martha born 1888. Please tell me you have good >>news for me this time hahaha. Hope to someday repay you for all the help >>you have given me!!! >> >>Freddie >> >> > >Freddie > >Sorry to report that I do not have Martha's parents. I checked the 1900 >Breathitt Co Census Index and did not have any Stacys listed. Wonder where >she was in 1900? > >You don't owe me anything. I have been helped by so many people over the >years that I feel am obligation to help others. > >Carter > > RUSSELL: David 129 Henry 118 James 123 John Sr 119 Robt. 152 > SIZEMORE: Al 76 Jeff 75 Hiram 72 Logan 78 Wash 155 > SMITH: Frank 127 John 166 > SOUTHWOOD: Emory 60 Nelson 146 Viany 148 > SPENCER: Alph 158 > TINCHER: Wilson 2 > TURNER: Ned 201 > > > > >==== KYBREATH Mailing List ==== >Visit the Breathitt County Library WebPage at http://www.breathitt.simplenet.com > > > > > >

> > Carter you are just a wealth of information and I really appreciate your > help. Now for the real question I need to know; Who were the parents of > Martha Stacy? Still looking for some of Manford "Dock" Stacy's children > and he had a daughter Martha born 1888. Please tell me you have good > news for me this time hahaha. Hope to someday repay you for all the help > you have given me!!! > > Freddie Freddie Sorry to report that I do not have Martha's parents. I checked the 1900 Breathitt Co Census Index and did not have any Stacys listed. Wonder where she was in 1900? You don't owe me anything. I have been helped by so many people over the years that I feel am obligation to help others. Carter RUSSELL: David 129 Henry 118 James 123 John Sr 119 Robt. 152 SIZEMORE: Al 76 Jeff 75 Hiram 72 Logan 78 Wash 155 SMITH: Frank 127 John 166 SOUTHWOOD: Emory 60 Nelson 146 Viany 148 SPENCER: Alph 158 TINCHER: Wilson 2 TURNER: Ned 201

> > > >Freddie > >Here we go again.<g> My wife descends from the Russell Family of >Breathitt Co. I have Martha Stacy, m to Harlis Russell, 10 Jan 1912. >Harlis was the s/o David Russell and Lucinda Fugate. David was a brother to >my wife's ggrandfather, Robert Russell, m Nancy Miller. They were sons of >James Burgin Russell and Levina Smith. > >Carter > Carter you are just a wealth of information and I really appreciate your help. Now for the real question I need to know; Who were the parents of Martha Stacy? Still looking for some of Manford "Dock" Stacy's children and he had a daughter Martha born 1888. Please tell me you have good news for me this time hahaha. Hope to someday repay you for all the help you have given me!!! Freddie

> Anyone researching the Russell family of Breathitt county? Looking for a > Martha STACY who married an Unknown RUSSELL, and had the following > children, all born Breathitt county. Junah Russell b. 1913, William M. > Russell b. 1917, David Russell b. 1915, Annie D. Russell b. 1919, and > Rilda B. Russell b. 1923. Any information would be most appreciated!! > > Freddie Wilson Freddie Here we go again.<g> My wife descends from the Russell Family of Breathitt Co. I have Martha Stacy, m to Harlis Russell, 10 Jan 1912. Harlis was the s/o David Russell and Lucinda Fugate. David was a brother to my wife's ggrandfather, Robert Russell, m Nancy Miller. They were sons of James Burgin Russell and Levina Smith. Carter 1900 Breathitt Co Census 129. David Russell 3/67 10 Lucinda (Fugate) 3/71 4/4 Bethany Russell 7/90 Harlis Russell 2/95 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cornelious Russell 3/96 John C. Russell 3/98

Anyone researching the Russell family of Breathitt county? Looking for a Martha STACY who married an Unknown RUSSELL, and had the following children, all born Breathitt county. Junah Russell b. 1913, William M. Russell b. 1917, David Russell b. 1915, Annie D. Russell b. 1919, and Rilda B. Russell b. 1923. Any information would be most appreciated!! Freddie Wilson

Does anyone have info about William & Elizabeth Harvey, parents of at least Esther, Nancy, Jane, John. What is their relationship to Nancy Harvey who married Nimrod McIntosh. Also, is the "John age 4" shown with William & Elizabeth in 1860 their child? Elizabeth would have been 54 years old when he was born. In 1850 there is a John age 22 in their household.

I am sorry this will show up on several lists , but I am hoping someone can help me !! Recently I received @ 20 Tin Type pictures , most are in very bad shape, some have a rust on them, others are starting to turn black & some are starting to flake. Is there ANY way to stop the aging process & remove the rust & damage that has already started. Thank you for any help you can give !!!! Martha Jo Marcum Carr

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Does anyone have a listing of those buried in the Stacy and/or Stacy Barlow Cemetery in Breathitt county? Or would anyone know where I could obtain a listing of this cemetery? Are the Stacy Cemetery and Stacy Barlow two different cemeteries or the same one? I am searching for the grave site of Manford "Dock" Stacy, wife Lune Engle Stacy and their family, and believe they will be found there. Thank you for any help you can offer, Freddie Wilson

Allen Cousins & Researchers, After 23 years of research I am confused & frustrated on several lines. To start with, I would love to see a discussion and a listing of sources for the linage of this E. KY Allen line. Ahnentafel Chart for Polly ALLEN First Generation 1. Polly ALLEN was born about 1855 in Clay Co KY. She died in KY. Polly married Irvin BARRETT son of Jesse BARRETT and Mary 'Polly' ASHER about 1869 in Clay Co KY. Irvin was born about 1851 in Clay Co KY. He died in KY. Second Generation 2. Jobe ALLEN was born in 1825 in NC. He died in KY. He married Elizabeth (Betty) AUSTIN about 1844 in NC. 3. Elizabeth (Betty) AUSTIN was born about 1826 in NC. She died in KY. Third Generation 4. Adoniram II ALLEN was born on 1 May 1782 in NC. He died on 11 Dec 1846 in NC. He married Lucinda "KOONS" RIDDLE about 1804 in NC. 5. Lucinda "KOONS" RIDDLE was born in 1787 in NC. She died in Aug 1847. 6. Samuel AUSTIN was born about 1800 in poss NC. Fourth Generation 8. Adoniram ALLEN was born about 1734. He died about 1838. He married Martha RIDDLE before 1882 in poss NC. 9. Martha RIDDLE was born about 1734. 10. John W. RIDDLE Sr. was born about 1767 in NC?. He died on 18 Mar 1844 in Yancy Co., NC. Fifth Generation 16. David ALLEN was born about 1713 . He died after 1786. He married Mary BAKER before 1734. 17. Sarah BAKER .d/o John Baker 1681 s/o Joshua1642 s/o Alexander N Baker 1607 s/o Alexander Thomas Baker 1573 London, Eng s/o George Baker 1557 Middlesex, Eng Sixth Generation Is David Allen 1713 the s/o David b 1674 s/o Edward 1633 Eng who md Sarah Kimball? David Allen 1674 md Sarah Hayward d/o John Hayward & Anna White. Anna White 1649 d/o Resolved White 1615 Eng s/o William & Susannah White. The Whites were on the Mayflower. OR Is David Allen 1713 the s/o Samuel Allen 1665 md Mercy Wright s/o Nehemiah Allen 1649 s/o Samuel 1588 & Ann Allen of England? It is very hard for me to write due to health but I will try to list sources ASAP for both linage's for David Allen 1713. If you search Ancestry. Com & Familysearch. Org (free) you will find David Allen 1714 pedigree both ways but with few or no primary sources. I know that there are researcher who believe that they have the right pedigree for David 1713, if so, do you have primary sources that you can share? PLEASE HELP, I JUST WANT TO GET THIS ALLEN PEDIGREE CORRECT!! Best Wishes, Leon Morris 70646 Hilltop Dr. Union, MI 49130 _http://users.beanstalk.net/rokadane/morris/_ (http://users.beanstalk.net/rokadane/morris/) 269-641-7071 (Call anytime, it is easier for me to talk than to write.)

Hi all, I am working on 3 ROARK women found in Morgan Co., TN before 1860. Rebecca and Emily ROARK married in Morgan Co., TN in the 1840s - based on their Civil War widow's pensions. The third was Savannah ROARK found in the household of Edward R. and Rebecca ROARK GREEN in the 1860 census in Morgan Co., TN. Since Rebecca is listed as being born in KY and her father in SC in the 1880 census, I am trying to establish her parents. Of note, there is a John and a Barnabas ROARK found in the old Morgan Co., TN deeds and court records prior to 1840. They are not found in the county in 1850 or later. Is anyone out there familiar with the John ROARK and Mary BACK family found in Breathitt Co., KY in 1850? I would love to hear from you! And I am happy to share data. TIA, Georgeanne