How exciting to read Ella Rae Wilson Coleman's letter! I think she's right on track concerning BA Wilson Rice. Ella Rae Wilson Coleman's sister, Florence Roe Wilson Bush told me the little story I posted last night about their father, Dr Edward Sanders Wilson, Sr calling BA Wilson Rice, "Uncle Ben". Ella Rae passed away not very long ago and her daughter in CA has her research. Florence Roe has must have missed the session w/ old Dr Ed Wilson that Ella Rae and young Dr Ed that Ella Rae discusses in her letter. With the facts that Ella Rae gives, I have little doubt that BA Wilson Rice is a brother to Wm Francis Marion Wilson, as she believed. Nothing is actually proven, though the circumstances are conducive. Claiborne Co lists a marriage record of Lydia Sanders to a Wilson; unfortunately, the first name is missing. In addition to the deed Ella Rae mentions that lists BA's surname as Wilson, there are many deeds in the Bell Co courthouse with his name recorded as BA Wilson, Benjamin Wilson, and Benjamin A Wilson. He owned 8,000 acres of land on Straight Creek which he sold in the 1850's for $60,000. Further, in his biography Florence Roe Wilson Bush states that Wm Francis Marion Wilson was "born in a part of Grainger Co TN, which became Claiborne Co". BA Wilson Rice moved back to Tazewell, Claiborne Co in his later years, and that's where he died. He must have had a desire to return to his birthplace. A marriage record exists for Benjamin Wilson and Zelphia McFetridge in Grainger Co TN. In the archives in Frankfort are records of his divorce proceedings from his second wife, Zelphia McFetridge. The divorce is in the name of BA Rice. At some time in the early 1850's, he had his name legally changed. I asked at the archives if they had a copy of that record, but they said that they did not. He lived at Locke where the Wilsons lived and is of the right generation to have been a brother to Wm Francis Marion Wilson. I believe there was another brother named Isaac Sanders Wilson because he's listed in BA Wilson Rice's household in one of the censuses, along w/ his fifteen year old daughter, Lydia Wilson. I have a picture of BA Wilson Rice showing five generations that appeared in the Harlan newspaper. The quality isn't wonderful, but his features are discernable. He was a great landowner, millwright, contractor, and Mason. His sons were active in civic roles in Bell and Harlan counties by serving as city clerks, master commissioners, attorneys, and owners of the Rice Bank in Pineville. He was quite a prolific man and is said to have fathered 20 or 21 children. In the early 1850's, Zelphia McFetridge wasn't happy w/ his behavior and let it be known in the divorce proceedings. She cited witnesses who swore to hearing him talk of his sexual escapades and resulting unhealthy consequences. Regards, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: Barb Rice To: KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [KYBELL] Rices & John Rice Irwin When I first started researching in Bell County, I visited Holly Fee and she gave me a copy of a letter she had received from a Mrs. Ella Coleman on Benjamin Ajax Rice regarding the Sanders/Wilson connection. If interested, email me personally and I will send it to you. Barb Rice
List, anyone related to the ALMIRA RAMSEY? her husband was TILMON. i was wondering if anyone on here is related. i want to know if possible was a LOUIS RAMSEY the brother to TILMON? my dad ran around with LOUIS in the 1920s to 1940s. dad was GAR MOORE. he and family lived on the KY side of CUMBERLAND GAP mountain & ran the SAND MINE there. i thinki have a photo of LOUIS, but its dim. also in her obit is the name KING. wonder if they are relatef to KINGs in TAZEWELL?. and TOLBERT & COLLINS. MERTA JONES. looks like she's part of the MAYES lines. anyone here related? i'd like to email a MAYES. thanks Ray Moore. MOORE,MAYES,TOWNSLEY,WHITEAKER, WHITAKER,GRUBBS,POE, GRAY, HAUN,LONG,OGLESBY, MOLES,MEADOWS,LAMBERT,NORTH, FIELDS,(HUNDLEY,MANIS,of HAWKINS Co.TN.) & others. in CLAIBORNE,KNOX,GRAINGER Cos.TN. http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm
I would like to unsunscribe to this as I no longer need it thank you Connie Hoskins <willoweak@msn.com> wrote:Will, No son of John Robert Rice's wife was married to a Sanders. It was John Robert Rice's wife, Lydia who is the mother of Benjamin Ajax Wilson Rice. Sanders is Lydia's maiden name. She was first married to a Wilson in Claiborne Co TN and had at least two sons, Isaac S Wilson and Benjamin Ajax Wilson Rice. John Robert Rice, Stephen Rice's brother, is her second husband. BA Wilson adopted his step-father's surname, and Isaac kept his father's Wilson name. In early to mid 1800's Bell Co land records, his name is recorded as BA Wilson, Benjamin Wilson, and Benjamin A Wilson. There's no theory to disprove about him actually being a Wilson. A family of Wilsons lived on the right fork of Straight Creek where BA Wilson Rice lived at Locke / Kettle Island. They have carried the Sanders name into present generations. In fact Dr Edward Sanders Wilson, Sr told a story to his children when they went by the Irish cemetery in Tazewell that goes something like, "There lies old Uncle Ben Rice, married three times and none of his wives would be buried beside him." Regards, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Wolfman Smith" To: Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and RebeccaWoolum Rice!! > Ray, > I believe the Luther Rice you're talking about could have been a > descendant of Benjamin Ajax Rice who was the son of Stephen's brother John > Robert Rice. It is rumored, however, that Benjamin Ajax might NOT have > been > a Rice but a son of John's wife who had been married to a Saunders/Sanders > and may have taken the name "Rice". > It would be great to find one of Benjamin Ajax Rice's descendants as > well > to take the DNA test. If it matche's Stephen Rice's DNA then it would > disprove the theory that Benjamin was a Saunders instead of a Rice. > > Some of the Seabolts who moved up around Edmondson Kentucky were > related > to my Howell's from White County, Tennessee... > > Thanks, > Will > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TN MAN 2" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and > RebeccaWoolum Rice!! > > > > hi, in this time era, have you got a HERSHALL RICE of NIDDLESBORO,KY? > > Hershall marr LINDA SEABOLT. they live in TIPRELL, near CUMBERLAND > > GAP.TN. i've known them for yrs. I'm not related to either RICE or > > SEABOLT. Linda is very helpful. maybe you could call her. > > > > also around Tazewell,TN a LUTHER RICE? he'd be 70+ if living. > > i only knew this LUTHER by name.saw him as a kid. he use to live here in > > LAFAYETTE,IN. Regards, Ray. > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:31:18 -0600, "Will Wolfman Smith" > > said: > > > Hello, > > > I have been trying to find Barb Rice who was researching Stephen > > > Rice > > > b. c1795 VA who maried Rebecca Woolum.. We need to find a direct > > > male > > > descendant of Stephen Rice to take the Rice DNA test through the > Edmund > > > Rice Association... 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When I first started researching in Bell County, I visited Holly Fee and she gave me a copy of a letter she had received from a Mrs. Ella Coleman on Benjamin Ajax Rice regarding the Sanders/Wilson connection. If interested, email me personally and I will send it to you. Barb Rice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Wolfman Smith" <wolfman@blomand.net> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [KYBELL] Rices & John Rice Irwin > Yep, a descendant of old Henry, through his son John Rice who settled in > Alabama, did the DNA testing. Hopefully a descendant of Stephen Rice will > do > likewise. > > John Rice's wife's name was "Eady" and after leaving Tennessee settled, I > think, in Madison County, Alabama and died there. This is the John who was > father of Sally Rice who had married one of the Harp bandits in Knox > County, > TN around 1795. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Connie Hoskins" <willoweak@msn.com> > To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:29 PM > Subject: [KYBELL] Rices & John Rice Irwin > > >> Kay, >> >> I understand about those senior moments, even though I'm not quite a > senior, >> yet! John Rice Irwin has the Museum of Appalachia in Norris, TN. He's >> related to Henry Rice the gristmiller about whom a book is written. No >> connection has been found to Stephen Rice and John Robert Rice, but there >> could be one. >> >> Regards, Connie >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kay Adams" <adam9419@bellsouth.net> >> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant's >> >> >> > Anyone know of John Rice Erwin? He is now known for the Historical >> > sight >> > he >> > has set up in Norris TN.. Can not remember the name.. Senior moment. >> > . His Erwin line is from Union Co on what is called now Chuck Swan Wild >> > Life >> > Management area. There is an area there that has a cemetery and road > call >> > Rice Erwin Road.. Have hunted on the area for years and have been in > that >> > area a great deal.. This is the same area where my husbands Wilson line >> > lived. They lived on the main road into the area... Anyone who knows > this >> > area would know where Stout Dossett Cemetery is and that Jesse Wilson >> > is >> > buried there with his mother Nancy Wilson.. and wife.. She was Matilda >> > Ailor. Jesse's father is unknown.. Thought that Nancy was not married.. > It >> > is thought by our family that her family name was Wilson but we have >> > not >> > been able to find father and mother for her. Her birth date is thought > to >> > be about 1790 in NC. The part of Union Co where the family is located >> > in >> > the >> > early 1800 was a part of what I think was Anderson Co. >> > Does any of this ring a bell for anyone? This is from my memory which >> > is >> > not >> > always good. LOL >> > >> > >> > Kay Goforth Adams >> > Middlesboro, KY >> > >> > >> > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== >> > >> > >> > >> > ============================== >> > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
Barb Rice is listed on the Bell website: Barbrice@cinci.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Will Wolfman Smith To: KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 3:31 PM Subject: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and Rebecca Woolum Rice!! Hello, I have been trying to find Barb Rice who was researching Stephen Rice b. c1795 VA who maried Rebecca Woolum.. We need to find a direct male descendant of Stephen Rice to take the Rice DNA test through the Edmund Rice Association... We have reason to believe Stephen may be related to our other Rice relatives proven through DNA in Wayne County, Kentucky - White County, Tennessee - Randolph County, Missouri - and Prince Edward County, Virginia.. For more information please contact Martha at ricesouthern@comcast.net Visit the Edmund Rice Assn website at: http://www.widomaker.com/~gwk/era/ Regards, Will Smith Hillsboro, TN ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx
Ray, I'm related to the Hoskinses of Bell Co, as well as the Wilsons and Greens. Regards, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: "TN MAN 2" <dennyswreck@fastmail.fm> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [KYBELL] Rices & John Rice Irwin > HI Connie thanks! a ? are you related to the HOSKINS, i think that was > the 1. a while back he was real ill. the WILSON i mentioned was > on his page. there were other names GREEN? and others. sound familir? > Ray. > > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:29:09 -0500, "Connie Hoskins" <willoweak@msn.com> > said: > > Kay, > > > > I understand about those senior moments, even though I'm not quite a > > senior, > > yet! John Rice Irwin has the Museum of Appalachia in Norris, TN. He's > > related to Henry Rice the gristmiller about whom a book is written. No > > connection has been found to Stephen Rice and John Robert Rice, but > > there > > could be one. > > > > Regards, Connie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kay Adams" <adam9419@bellsouth.net> > > To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant's > > > > > > > Anyone know of John Rice Erwin? He is now known for the Historical > > > sight > > > he > > > has set up in Norris TN.. Can not remember the name.. Senior moment. > > > . His Erwin line is from Union Co on what is called now Chuck Swan > > > Wild > > > Life > > > Management area. There is an area there that has a cemetery and road > > > call > > > Rice Erwin Road.. Have hunted on the area for years and have been in > > > that > > > area a great deal.. This is the same area where my husbands Wilson > > > line > > > lived. They lived on the main road into the area... Anyone who knows > > > this > > > area would know where Stout Dossett Cemetery is and that Jesse Wilson > > > is > > > buried there with his mother Nancy Wilson.. and wife.. She was Matilda > > > Ailor. Jesse's father is unknown.. Thought that Nancy was not > > > married.. It > > > is thought by our family that her family name was Wilson but we have > > > not > > > been able to find father and mother for her. Her birth date is > > > thought to > > > be about 1790 in NC. The part of Union Co where the family is located > > > in > > > the > > > early 1800 was a part of what I think was Anderson Co. > > > Does any of this ring a bell for anyone? This is from my memory which > > > is > > > not > > > always good. LOL > > > > > > > > > Kay Goforth Adams > > > Middlesboro, KY > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > MOORE,MAYES,TOWNSLEY,WHITEAKER, > WHITAKER,GRUBBS,POE, GRAY, HAUN,LONG,OGLESBY, MOLES,MEADOWS,LAMBERT,NORTH, > FIELDS,(HUNDLEY,MANIS,of > HAWKINS Co.TN.) & others. in CLAIBORNE,KNOX,GRAINGER Cos.TN. > http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >
HI Connie thanks! a ? are you related to the HOSKINS, i think that was the 1. a while back he was real ill. the WILSON i mentioned was on his page. there were other names GREEN? and others. sound familir? Ray. On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:29:09 -0500, "Connie Hoskins" <willoweak@msn.com> said: > Kay, > > I understand about those senior moments, even though I'm not quite a > senior, > yet! John Rice Irwin has the Museum of Appalachia in Norris, TN. He's > related to Henry Rice the gristmiller about whom a book is written. No > connection has been found to Stephen Rice and John Robert Rice, but there > could be one. > > Regards, Connie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kay Adams" <adam9419@bellsouth.net> > To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:49 PM > Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant's > > > > Anyone know of John Rice Erwin? He is now known for the Historical sight > > he > > has set up in Norris TN.. Can not remember the name.. Senior moment. > > . His Erwin line is from Union Co on what is called now Chuck Swan Wild > > Life > > Management area. There is an area there that has a cemetery and road call > > Rice Erwin Road.. Have hunted on the area for years and have been in that > > area a great deal.. This is the same area where my husbands Wilson line > > lived. They lived on the main road into the area... Anyone who knows this > > area would know where Stout Dossett Cemetery is and that Jesse Wilson is > > buried there with his mother Nancy Wilson.. and wife.. She was Matilda > > Ailor. Jesse's father is unknown.. Thought that Nancy was not married.. It > > is thought by our family that her family name was Wilson but we have not > > been able to find father and mother for her. Her birth date is thought to > > be about 1790 in NC. The part of Union Co where the family is located in > > the > > early 1800 was a part of what I think was Anderson Co. > > Does any of this ring a bell for anyone? This is from my memory which is > > not > > always good. LOL > > > > > > Kay Goforth Adams > > Middlesboro, KY > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > MOORE,MAYES,TOWNSLEY,WHITEAKER, WHITAKER,GRUBBS,POE, GRAY, HAUN,LONG,OGLESBY, MOLES,MEADOWS,LAMBERT,NORTH, FIELDS,(HUNDLEY,MANIS,of HAWKINS Co.TN.) & others. in CLAIBORNE,KNOX,GRAINGER Cos.TN. http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm
Kay, I understand about those senior moments, even though I'm not quite a senior, yet! John Rice Irwin has the Museum of Appalachia in Norris, TN. He's related to Henry Rice the gristmiller about whom a book is written. No connection has been found to Stephen Rice and John Robert Rice, but there could be one. Regards, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Adams" <adam9419@bellsouth.net> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant's > Anyone know of John Rice Erwin? He is now known for the Historical sight > he > has set up in Norris TN.. Can not remember the name.. Senior moment. > . His Erwin line is from Union Co on what is called now Chuck Swan Wild > Life > Management area. There is an area there that has a cemetery and road call > Rice Erwin Road.. Have hunted on the area for years and have been in that > area a great deal.. This is the same area where my husbands Wilson line > lived. They lived on the main road into the area... Anyone who knows this > area would know where Stout Dossett Cemetery is and that Jesse Wilson is > buried there with his mother Nancy Wilson.. and wife.. She was Matilda > Ailor. Jesse's father is unknown.. Thought that Nancy was not married.. It > is thought by our family that her family name was Wilson but we have not > been able to find father and mother for her. Her birth date is thought to > be about 1790 in NC. The part of Union Co where the family is located in > the > early 1800 was a part of what I think was Anderson Co. > Does any of this ring a bell for anyone? This is from my memory which is > not > always good. LOL > > > Kay Goforth Adams > Middlesboro, KY > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >
Yep, a descendant of old Henry, through his son John Rice who settled in Alabama, did the DNA testing. Hopefully a descendant of Stephen Rice will do likewise. John Rice's wife's name was "Eady" and after leaving Tennessee settled, I think, in Madison County, Alabama and died there. This is the John who was father of Sally Rice who had married one of the Harp bandits in Knox County, TN around 1795. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Connie Hoskins" <willoweak@msn.com> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:29 PM Subject: [KYBELL] Rices & John Rice Irwin > Kay, > > I understand about those senior moments, even though I'm not quite a senior, > yet! John Rice Irwin has the Museum of Appalachia in Norris, TN. He's > related to Henry Rice the gristmiller about whom a book is written. No > connection has been found to Stephen Rice and John Robert Rice, but there > could be one. > > Regards, Connie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kay Adams" <adam9419@bellsouth.net> > To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:49 PM > Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant's > > > > Anyone know of John Rice Erwin? He is now known for the Historical sight > > he > > has set up in Norris TN.. Can not remember the name.. Senior moment. > > . His Erwin line is from Union Co on what is called now Chuck Swan Wild > > Life > > Management area. There is an area there that has a cemetery and road call > > Rice Erwin Road.. Have hunted on the area for years and have been in that > > area a great deal.. This is the same area where my husbands Wilson line > > lived. They lived on the main road into the area... Anyone who knows this > > area would know where Stout Dossett Cemetery is and that Jesse Wilson is > > buried there with his mother Nancy Wilson.. and wife.. She was Matilda > > Ailor. Jesse's father is unknown.. Thought that Nancy was not married.. It > > is thought by our family that her family name was Wilson but we have not > > been able to find father and mother for her. Her birth date is thought to > > be about 1790 in NC. The part of Union Co where the family is located in > > the > > early 1800 was a part of what I think was Anderson Co. > > Does any of this ring a bell for anyone? This is from my memory which is > > not > > always good. LOL > > > > > > Kay Goforth Adams > > Middlesboro, KY > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >
Anyone know of John Rice Erwin? He is now known for the Historical sight he has set up in Norris TN.. Can not remember the name.. Senior moment. . His Erwin line is from Union Co on what is called now Chuck Swan Wild Life Management area. There is an area there that has a cemetery and road call Rice Erwin Road.. Have hunted on the area for years and have been in that area a great deal.. This is the same area where my husbands Wilson line lived. They lived on the main road into the area... Anyone who knows this area would know where Stout Dossett Cemetery is and that Jesse Wilson is buried there with his mother Nancy Wilson.. and wife.. She was Matilda Ailor. Jesse's father is unknown.. Thought that Nancy was not married.. It is thought by our family that her family name was Wilson but we have not been able to find father and mother for her. Her birth date is thought to be about 1790 in NC. The part of Union Co where the family is located in the early 1800 was a part of what I think was Anderson Co. Does any of this ring a bell for anyone? This is from my memory which is not always good. LOL Kay Goforth Adams Middlesboro, KY
John is a descendant of Henry Rice (1717-1818), the gristmiller who settled in that area which became Union County, Tennessee. He is in charge of the Museum of Appalachia in Norris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Adams" <adam9419@bellsouth.net> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant's > Anyone know of John Rice Erwin? He is now known for the Historical sight he > has set up in Norris TN.. Can not remember the name.. Senior moment. > . His Erwin line is from Union Co on what is called now Chuck Swan Wild Life > Management area. There is an area there that has a cemetery and road call > Rice Erwin Road.. Have hunted on the area for years and have been in that > area a great deal.. This is the same area where my husbands Wilson line > lived. They lived on the main road into the area... Anyone who knows this > area would know where Stout Dossett Cemetery is and that Jesse Wilson is > buried there with his mother Nancy Wilson.. and wife.. She was Matilda > Ailor. Jesse's father is unknown.. Thought that Nancy was not married.. It > is thought by our family that her family name was Wilson but we have not > been able to find father and mother for her. Her birth date is thought to > be about 1790 in NC. The part of Union Co where the family is located in the > early 1800 was a part of what I think was Anderson Co. > Does any of this ring a bell for anyone? This is from my memory which is not > always good. LOL > > > Kay Goforth Adams > Middlesboro, KY > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >
BA Wilson Rice never lived at Tiprell. He lived on the right fork of St Creek, Harlan, and at Tazewell. Regards, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: <CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and RebeccaWoolum Rice!! > In a message dated 12/12/2004 7:15:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, > dennyswreck@fastmail.fm writes: > > > Charlotte, is it possible he was 1 of the WILSONs that lived in > > TIPRELL?. i found a WILSON there. and finally found the page owner, > > but they wouldn't e anymore. TIPRELL is my little home community. > > oh any of your WILSON if any go to HARDIN Co.KY? Ray > > Ray, > > I am not sure. Maybe someone with more knowledge of B. A. Rice can help > us. > > Thanks > Charlotte Miller > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html > http://www.geocities.com/charlotte7274/index.html > http://www.geocities.com/c81371/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >
I greatly appreciate the clarification on this point. It has been a LONG time since I have tried to research the Stephen Rice family. Many old photos I've seen of these folks are splitting images to MY Rice's in White and Putnam Counties of Tennessee. I believe there may be some kinship, but only the DNA testing will prove that. Thanks Will ----- Original Message ----- From: "Connie Hoskins" <willoweak@msn.com> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:28 PM Subject: [KYBELL] BA Wilson Rice > Will, > > No son of John Robert Rice's wife was married to a Sanders. It was John > Robert Rice's wife, Lydia who is the mother of Benjamin Ajax Wilson Rice. > Sanders is Lydia's maiden name. She was first married to a Wilson in > Claiborne Co TN and had at least two sons, Isaac S Wilson and Benjamin Ajax > Wilson Rice. John Robert Rice, Stephen Rice's brother, is her second > husband. BA Wilson adopted his step-father's surname, and Isaac kept his > father's Wilson name. > > In early to mid 1800's Bell Co land records, his name is recorded as BA > Wilson, Benjamin Wilson, and Benjamin A Wilson. There's no theory to > disprove about him actually being a Wilson. A family of Wilsons lived on the > right fork of Straight Creek where BA Wilson Rice lived at Locke / Kettle > Island. They have carried the Sanders name into present generations. In fact > Dr Edward Sanders Wilson, Sr told a story to his children when they went by > the Irish cemetery in Tazewell that goes something like, "There lies old > Uncle Ben Rice, married three times and none of his wives would be buried > beside him." > > Regards, Connie > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Will Wolfman Smith" <wolfman@blomand.net> > To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:50 PM > Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and > RebeccaWoolum Rice!! > > > > Ray, > > I believe the Luther Rice you're talking about could have been a > > descendant of Benjamin Ajax Rice who was the son of Stephen's brother John > > Robert Rice. It is rumored, however, that Benjamin Ajax might NOT have > > been > > a Rice but a son of John's wife who had been married to a Saunders/Sanders > > and may have taken the name "Rice". > > It would be great to find one of Benjamin Ajax Rice's descendants as > > well > > to take the DNA test. If it matche's Stephen Rice's DNA then it would > > disprove the theory that Benjamin was a Saunders instead of a Rice. > > > > Some of the Seabolts who moved up around Edmondson Kentucky were > > related > > to my Howell's from White County, Tennessee... > > > > Thanks, > > Will > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "TN MAN 2" <dennyswreck@fastmail.fm> > > To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 4:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and > > RebeccaWoolum Rice!! > > > > > > > hi, in this time era, have you got a HERSHALL RICE of NIDDLESBORO,KY? > > > Hershall marr LINDA SEABOLT. they live in TIPRELL, near CUMBERLAND > > > GAP.TN. i've known them for yrs. I'm not related to either RICE or > > > SEABOLT. Linda is very helpful. maybe you could call her. > > > > > > also around Tazewell,TN a LUTHER RICE? he'd be 70+ if living. > > > i only knew this LUTHER by name.saw him as a kid. he use to live here in > > > LAFAYETTE,IN. Regards, Ray. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:31:18 -0600, "Will Wolfman Smith" > > > <wolfman@blomand.net> said: > > > > Hello, > > > > I have been trying to find Barb Rice who was researching Stephen > > > > Rice > > > > b. c1795 VA who maried Rebecca Woolum.. We need to find a direct > > > > male > > > > descendant of Stephen Rice to take the Rice DNA test through the > > Edmund > > > > Rice Association... We have reason to believe Stephen may be related > > to > > > > our other Rice relatives proven through DNA in Wayne County, > > Kentucky - > > > > White County, Tennessee - Randolph County, Missouri - and Prince > > Edward > > > > County, Virginia.. > > > > > > > > For more information please contact Martha at ricesouthern@comcast.net > > > > > > > > Visit the Edmund Rice Assn website at: > > > > http://www.widomaker.com/~gwk/era/ > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Will Smith > > > > Hillsboro, TN > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > > > marriage announcements and more. 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I know nothing past my own grandfather Willie Smith, who died March 26, 1930 in Tupelo Mississippi, just 11 days before my father was born. I took the 25 marker Smith DNA test, and have found about 12 matches to the first 12 markers, but no matches as yet to the other 13 loci markers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "TN MAN 2" <dennyswreck@fastmail.fm> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and RebeccaWoolumRice!! > hi Will, seems those names you mention i've hward. will ask an aunt. > > just the other day i saw a HOWELL researcher. will see if i can find it. > where are your SMITHs? my g-g-g-greatgranny was a SMITH, married > SHEROD MAYES. also i have in my TOWNSLEY lines 2 SMITHs. 1 was TENNESSEE > R.SMITH. a LAURA TOWNSLEY marr a SMITH. a dau was NARCI SMITH YOUNG. > sound familir? are you related to SMITH RAY. i guess > thats right,that has the page in tribute to HARRISON MAYES who built the > crosses seen everywhere on the highways. he was from MIDDLESBORO. > > Note, there are 2 it seems unrelated SEABOLT lines. 1 was in TIPRELL. > 1 was on CAVES SPRINGS Road,near TAZEWELL. but they related somewhere. > Ray. > > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:50:16 -0600, "Will Wolfman Smith" > <wolfman@blomand.net> said: > > Ray, > > I believe the Luther Rice you're talking about could have been a > > descendant of Benjamin Ajax Rice who was the son of Stephen's brother > > John > > Robert Rice. It is rumored, however, that Benjamin Ajax might NOT have > > been > > a Rice but a son of John's wife who had been married to a > > Saunders/Sanders > > and may have taken the name "Rice". > > It would be great to find one of Benjamin Ajax Rice's descendants as > > well > > to take the DNA test. If it matche's Stephen Rice's DNA then it would > > disprove the theory that Benjamin was a Saunders instead of a Rice. > > > > Some of the Seabolts who moved up around Edmondson Kentucky were > > related > > to my Howell's from White County, Tennessee... > > > > Thanks, > > Will > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "TN MAN 2" <dennyswreck@fastmail.fm> > > To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 4:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and > > RebeccaWoolum Rice!! > > > > > > > hi, in this time era, have you got a HERSHALL RICE of NIDDLESBORO,KY? > > > Hershall marr LINDA SEABOLT. they live in TIPRELL, near CUMBERLAND > > > GAP.TN. i've known them for yrs. I'm not related to either RICE or > > > SEABOLT. Linda is very helpful. maybe you could call her. > > > > > > also around Tazewell,TN a LUTHER RICE? he'd be 70+ if living. > > > i only knew this LUTHER by name.saw him as a kid. he use to live here in > > > LAFAYETTE,IN. Regards, Ray. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:31:18 -0600, "Will Wolfman Smith" > > > <wolfman@blomand.net> said: > > > > Hello, > > > > I have been trying to find Barb Rice who was researching Stephen Rice > > > > b. c1795 VA who maried Rebecca Woolum.. We need to find a direct male > > > > descendant of Stephen Rice to take the Rice DNA test through the > > Edmund > > > > Rice Association... We have reason to believe Stephen may be related > > to > > > > our other Rice relatives proven through DNA in Wayne County, > > Kentucky - > > > > White County, Tennessee - Randolph County, Missouri - and Prince > > Edward > > > > County, Virginia.. > > > > > > > > For more information please contact Martha at ricesouthern@comcast.net > > > > > > > > Visit the Edmund Rice Assn website at: > > > > http://www.widomaker.com/~gwk/era/ > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Will Smith > > > > Hillsboro, TN > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > > > marriage announcements and more. 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LOL..Oh, ok..I knew it was something..Kept thinking it was Saunders for some reason, but it was WILSON. Thanks! Will ----- Original Message ----- From: <CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and RebeccaWoolumRice!! > In a message dated 12/12/2004 5:41:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, > wolfman@blomand.net writes: > > > > > Ray, > > I believe the Luther Rice you're talking about could have been a > > descendant of Benjamin Ajax Rice who was the son of Stephen's brother John > > Robert Rice. It is rumored, however, that Benjamin Ajax might NOT have been > > a Rice but a son of John's wife who had been married to a Saunders/Sanders > > and may have taken the name "Rice". > > It would be great to find one of Benjamin Ajax Rice's descendants as well > > to take the DNA test. If it matche's Stephen Rice's DNA then it would > > disprove the theory that Benjamin was a Saunders instead of a Rice. > > > > Some of the Seabolts who moved up around Edmondson Kentucky were related > > to my Howell's from White County, Tennessee... > > > > Thanks, > > Will > > Will, > > The theory is that Benjamin Ajax Rice was a Wilson instead of a Rice or > Saunders/Sanders, because he went by the name of Wilson for years before he changed > his name to Rice. > > Thanks, > Charlotte Miller > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html > http://www.geocities.com/charlotte7274/index.html > http://www.geocities.com/c81371/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >
Will, No son of John Robert Rice's wife was married to a Sanders. It was John Robert Rice's wife, Lydia who is the mother of Benjamin Ajax Wilson Rice. Sanders is Lydia's maiden name. She was first married to a Wilson in Claiborne Co TN and had at least two sons, Isaac S Wilson and Benjamin Ajax Wilson Rice. John Robert Rice, Stephen Rice's brother, is her second husband. BA Wilson adopted his step-father's surname, and Isaac kept his father's Wilson name. In early to mid 1800's Bell Co land records, his name is recorded as BA Wilson, Benjamin Wilson, and Benjamin A Wilson. There's no theory to disprove about him actually being a Wilson. A family of Wilsons lived on the right fork of Straight Creek where BA Wilson Rice lived at Locke / Kettle Island. They have carried the Sanders name into present generations. In fact Dr Edward Sanders Wilson, Sr told a story to his children when they went by the Irish cemetery in Tazewell that goes something like, "There lies old Uncle Ben Rice, married three times and none of his wives would be buried beside him." Regards, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Wolfman Smith" <wolfman@blomand.net> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and RebeccaWoolum Rice!! > Ray, > I believe the Luther Rice you're talking about could have been a > descendant of Benjamin Ajax Rice who was the son of Stephen's brother John > Robert Rice. It is rumored, however, that Benjamin Ajax might NOT have > been > a Rice but a son of John's wife who had been married to a Saunders/Sanders > and may have taken the name "Rice". > It would be great to find one of Benjamin Ajax Rice's descendants as > well > to take the DNA test. If it matche's Stephen Rice's DNA then it would > disprove the theory that Benjamin was a Saunders instead of a Rice. > > Some of the Seabolts who moved up around Edmondson Kentucky were > related > to my Howell's from White County, Tennessee... > > Thanks, > Will > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TN MAN 2" <dennyswreck@fastmail.fm> > To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and > RebeccaWoolum Rice!! > > > > hi, in this time era, have you got a HERSHALL RICE of NIDDLESBORO,KY? > > Hershall marr LINDA SEABOLT. they live in TIPRELL, near CUMBERLAND > > GAP.TN. i've known them for yrs. I'm not related to either RICE or > > SEABOLT. Linda is very helpful. maybe you could call her. > > > > also around Tazewell,TN a LUTHER RICE? he'd be 70+ if living. > > i only knew this LUTHER by name.saw him as a kid. he use to live here in > > LAFAYETTE,IN. Regards, Ray. > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:31:18 -0600, "Will Wolfman Smith" > > <wolfman@blomand.net> said: > > > Hello, > > > I have been trying to find Barb Rice who was researching Stephen > > > Rice > > > b. c1795 VA who maried Rebecca Woolum.. We need to find a direct > > > male > > > descendant of Stephen Rice to take the Rice DNA test through the > Edmund > > > Rice Association... We have reason to believe Stephen may be related > to > > > our other Rice relatives proven through DNA in Wayne County, > Kentucky - > > > White County, Tennessee - Randolph County, Missouri - and Prince > Edward > > > County, Virginia.. > > > > > > For more information please contact Martha at ricesouthern@comcast.net > > > > > > Visit the Edmund Rice Assn website at: > > > http://www.widomaker.com/~gwk/era/ > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Will Smith > > > Hillsboro, TN > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > MOORE,MAYES,TOWNSLEY,WHITEAKER, > > WHITAKER,GRUBBS,POE, GRAY, HAUN,LONG,OGLESBY, > > MOLES,MEADOWS,LAMBERT,NORTH, > > FIELDS,(HUNDLEY,MANIS,of > > HAWKINS Co.TN.) & others. in CLAIBORNE,KNOX,GRAINGER Cos.TN. > > http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
Will, There are many direct descendants of Stephen Rice and Rebecca Woolum in Bell Co. If you don't reach Barb, maybe you'll be able to get a hold of one of them. Regards, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Wolfman Smith" <wolfman@blomand.net> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 3:31 PM Subject: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and Rebecca Woolum Rice!! > Hello, > I have been trying to find Barb Rice who was researching Stephen Rice b. > c1795 VA who maried Rebecca Woolum.. We need to find a direct male > descendant of Stephen Rice to take the Rice DNA test through the Edmund > Rice Association... We have reason to believe Stephen may be related to > our other Rice relatives proven through DNA in Wayne County, Kentucky - > White County, Tennessee - Randolph County, Missouri - and Prince Edward > County, Virginia.. > > For more information please contact Martha at ricesouthern@comcast.net > > Visit the Edmund Rice Assn website at: > http://www.widomaker.com/~gwk/era/ > > Regards, > > Will Smith > Hillsboro, TN > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >
In a message dated 12/12/2004 7:15:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, dennyswreck@fastmail.fm writes: > Charlotte, is it possible he was 1 of the WILSONs that lived in > TIPRELL?. i found a WILSON there. and finally found the page owner, > but they wouldn't e anymore. TIPRELL is my little home community. > oh any of your WILSON if any go to HARDIN Co.KY? Ray Ray, I am not sure. Maybe someone with more knowledge of B. A. Rice can help us. Thanks Charlotte Miller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html http://www.geocities.com/charlotte7274/index.html http://www.geocities.com/c81371/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore
Charlotte, is it possible he was 1 of the WILSONs that lived in TIPRELL?. i found a WILSON there. and finally found the page owner, but they wouldn't e anymore. TIPRELL is my little home community. oh any of your WILSON if any go to HARDIN Co.KY? Ray On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:57:53 EST, CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com said: > In a message dated 12/12/2004 5:41:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, > wolfman@blomand.net writes: > > > > > Ray, > > I believe the Luther Rice you're talking about could have been a > > descendant of Benjamin Ajax Rice who was the son of Stephen's brother John > > Robert Rice. It is rumored, however, that Benjamin Ajax might NOT have been > > a Rice but a son of John's wife who had been married to a Saunders/Sanders > > and may have taken the name "Rice". > > It would be great to find one of Benjamin Ajax Rice's descendants as well > > to take the DNA test. If it matche's Stephen Rice's DNA then it would > > disprove the theory that Benjamin was a Saunders instead of a Rice. > > > > Some of the Seabolts who moved up around Edmondson Kentucky were related > > to my Howell's from White County, Tennessee... > > > > Thanks, > > Will > > Will, > > The theory is that Benjamin Ajax Rice was a Wilson instead of a Rice or > Saunders/Sanders, because he went by the name of Wilson for years before > he changed > his name to Rice. > > Thanks, > Charlotte Miller > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html > http://www.geocities.com/charlotte7274/index.html > http://www.geocities.com/c81371/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > MOORE,MAYES,TOWNSLEY,WHITEAKER, WHITAKER,GRUBBS,POE, GRAY, HAUN,LONG,OGLESBY, MOLES,MEADOWS,LAMBERT,NORTH, FIELDS,(HUNDLEY,MANIS,of HAWKINS Co.TN.) & others. in CLAIBORNE,KNOX,GRAINGER Cos.TN. http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm
hi Will, seems those names you mention i've hward. will ask an aunt. just the other day i saw a HOWELL researcher. will see if i can find it. where are your SMITHs? my g-g-g-greatgranny was a SMITH, married SHEROD MAYES. also i have in my TOWNSLEY lines 2 SMITHs. 1 was TENNESSEE R.SMITH. a LAURA TOWNSLEY marr a SMITH. a dau was NARCI SMITH YOUNG. sound familir? are you related to SMITH RAY. i guess thats right,that has the page in tribute to HARRISON MAYES who built the crosses seen everywhere on the highways. he was from MIDDLESBORO. Note, there are 2 it seems unrelated SEABOLT lines. 1 was in TIPRELL. 1 was on CAVES SPRINGS Road,near TAZEWELL. but they related somewhere. Ray. On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:50:16 -0600, "Will Wolfman Smith" <wolfman@blomand.net> said: > Ray, > I believe the Luther Rice you're talking about could have been a > descendant of Benjamin Ajax Rice who was the son of Stephen's brother > John > Robert Rice. It is rumored, however, that Benjamin Ajax might NOT have > been > a Rice but a son of John's wife who had been married to a > Saunders/Sanders > and may have taken the name "Rice". > It would be great to find one of Benjamin Ajax Rice's descendants as > well > to take the DNA test. If it matche's Stephen Rice's DNA then it would > disprove the theory that Benjamin was a Saunders instead of a Rice. > > Some of the Seabolts who moved up around Edmondson Kentucky were > related > to my Howell's from White County, Tennessee... > > Thanks, > Will > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TN MAN 2" <dennyswreck@fastmail.fm> > To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: [KYBELL] NEEDED: MALE Rice descendant of Stephen and > RebeccaWoolum Rice!! > > > > hi, in this time era, have you got a HERSHALL RICE of NIDDLESBORO,KY? > > Hershall marr LINDA SEABOLT. they live in TIPRELL, near CUMBERLAND > > GAP.TN. i've known them for yrs. I'm not related to either RICE or > > SEABOLT. Linda is very helpful. maybe you could call her. > > > > also around Tazewell,TN a LUTHER RICE? he'd be 70+ if living. > > i only knew this LUTHER by name.saw him as a kid. he use to live here in > > LAFAYETTE,IN. Regards, Ray. > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:31:18 -0600, "Will Wolfman Smith" > > <wolfman@blomand.net> said: > > > Hello, > > > I have been trying to find Barb Rice who was researching Stephen Rice > > > b. c1795 VA who maried Rebecca Woolum.. We need to find a direct male > > > descendant of Stephen Rice to take the Rice DNA test through the > Edmund > > > Rice Association... We have reason to believe Stephen may be related > to > > > our other Rice relatives proven through DNA in Wayne County, > Kentucky - > > > White County, Tennessee - Randolph County, Missouri - and Prince > Edward > > > County, Virginia.. > > > > > > For more information please contact Martha at ricesouthern@comcast.net > > > > > > Visit the Edmund Rice Assn website at: > > > http://www.widomaker.com/~gwk/era/ > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Will Smith > > > Hillsboro, TN > > > > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > MOORE,MAYES,TOWNSLEY,WHITEAKER, > > WHITAKER,GRUBBS,POE, GRAY, HAUN,LONG,OGLESBY, MOLES,MEADOWS,LAMBERT,NORTH, > > FIELDS,(HUNDLEY,MANIS,of > > HAWKINS Co.TN.) & others. in CLAIBORNE,KNOX,GRAINGER Cos.TN. > > http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > MOORE,MAYES,TOWNSLEY,WHITEAKER, WHITAKER,GRUBBS,POE, GRAY, HAUN,LONG,OGLESBY, MOLES,MEADOWS,LAMBERT,NORTH, FIELDS,(HUNDLEY,MANIS,of HAWKINS Co.TN.) & others. in CLAIBORNE,KNOX,GRAINGER Cos.TN. http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm