My old links to the Bell Co Cemetery Lists are no longer active.. I did see that Bell County Historical Society is selling the CD with the information on the Cemeteries on them. http://www.geocities.com/bellhistorical/ If anyone else knows of an active link to the records on line please let us know.

I haven't be able to find the links to Mr. Mathews transcriptions can you send me a link? On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:11:57 EST, Joycetcollins@cs.com <Joycetcollins@cs.com> wrote: > RESPONSE: > Hello, > > You can most probably thank a Mr. MATHEWS who is personally responsible for > inventorying literally hundreds, if not thousands, of small and all sized > graveyards in Bell Co., KY. > > As for the birth and death records I have given you, you could possibly learn > more by ordering those records from the State of KY, Vital Statistics. > > You might also go to the Bell Co. Message Board. On the menu where you post > a query, there is a search line at the top left-hand side. If you enter > your surname, CARMACK, and then click on Bell Co. to the right of the search > line, it will give you any queries where the CARMACK surname has come up. > Sometimes that is a good way to seek out other researchers. > > I know there is a "Pineville Sun" newspaper that published early on. You > may wish to check into the possibility of an inter-library transfer of some of > their microfilm. I have not done that so don't know the particulars of > ordering. > > Also, the State of KY has a 3-set CD that covers births, deaths and some > later marriages from the 1970's forward. They are very easy to search by the > maiden name of the mother, by the surname, by 10 year periods of time. These > could be helpful to you in locating more recent people past the time of the > 1930 Fed. Census. > > In attempting to mesh together some births from the marriages I gave to you > earlier on, these "may" be children born to some of these CARMACKs: > > DANIELS, Richard L. b. to Sarah CARMACK, maiden name; on 7-3-1940 in Bell Co. > DANIELS, Effie B. b. to Sarah CARMACK; maiden name; on 6-28-1938 in Bell Co. > > CARMACK, Earl R. b. 6-24-1949 in Bell Co. to maiden name, China CARMACK > CARMACK, Hazel R. b. 8-29-1951 in Bell Co. to maiden name, China CARMACK > > This one I don't really know about unless the Bertha SOUTHERLAND was really a > Bertha DOCKERY, maiden name who had had an earlier marriage to a SOUTHERLAND: > > CARMACK, Francis b. 2-11-19327 in Bell Co. to Bertha DOCKERY > CARMACK, Clifford M. b. 10-13-1940 in Bell Co. to Bertha DOCKERY > CARMACK, Fred O. b. 8-18-1945 in Bell Co. to Bertha DOCKERY > CARMACK, Gillis C. b. 1-23-1943 in Bell Co. to Bertha DOCKERY > > Joyce Taylor Collins > La Palma, CA > > In a message dated 3/23/2005 6:11:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Jnshowl@aol.com writes: > > Thank you Joyce for your reply. The information was most helpful. I > > remember > > my Grandmother saying there was a flood in Kentucky and after that her > > Mother > > didn't hear from Alice's family again. > > I did some more digging and found the following: > > Bell County, Kentucky > > Hensley Cemetery > > Fred Otis Carmack born 5/11/1927 died 11/18/1982 > > there are 5 more Carmack's in this cemetery > > > > Bell County, Middlesboro, Kentucky > > Green Hills Memorial Garden part 1 > > George T. Carmack born 11/14/1915 died 10/17/1995 C2 > > John H. Carmack born 3/6/1913 died 11/14/1994 C2 > > there are 4 more Carmack's in this cemetery > > > > I went to the Middlesboro, KY newspaper web site in hopes of them having an > > archives. They do but it only goes to 2000 so far. > > Again, thank you for your help. > > Jackie Howell > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > Questions about this list? Contact the KYBell list admin: > > Lorraine Newsome > > kyresearch@sbcglobal.net > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > Questions about this list? Contact the KYBell list admin: > Lorraine Newsome > kyresearch@sbcglobal.net > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

RESPONSE: Hello, You can most probably thank a Mr. MATHEWS who is personally responsible for inventorying literally hundreds, if not thousands, of small and all sized graveyards in Bell Co., KY. As for the birth and death records I have given you, you could possibly learn more by ordering those records from the State of KY, Vital Statistics. You might also go to the Bell Co. Message Board. On the menu where you post a query, there is a search line at the top left-hand side. If you enter your surname, CARMACK, and then click on Bell Co. to the right of the search line, it will give you any queries where the CARMACK surname has come up. Sometimes that is a good way to seek out other researchers. I know there is a "Pineville Sun" newspaper that published early on. You may wish to check into the possibility of an inter-library transfer of some of their microfilm. I have not done that so don't know the particulars of ordering. Also, the State of KY has a 3-set CD that covers births, deaths and some later marriages from the 1970's forward. They are very easy to search by the maiden name of the mother, by the surname, by 10 year periods of time. These could be helpful to you in locating more recent people past the time of the 1930 Fed. Census. In attempting to mesh together some births from the marriages I gave to you earlier on, these "may" be children born to some of these CARMACKs: DANIELS, Richard L. b. to Sarah CARMACK, maiden name; on 7-3-1940 in Bell Co. DANIELS, Effie B. b. to Sarah CARMACK; maiden name; on 6-28-1938 in Bell Co. CARMACK, Earl R. b. 6-24-1949 in Bell Co. to maiden name, China CARMACK CARMACK, Hazel R. b. 8-29-1951 in Bell Co. to maiden name, China CARMACK This one I don't really know about unless the Bertha SOUTHERLAND was really a Bertha DOCKERY, maiden name who had had an earlier marriage to a SOUTHERLAND: CARMACK, Francis b. 2-11-19327 in Bell Co. to Bertha DOCKERY CARMACK, Clifford M. b. 10-13-1940 in Bell Co. to Bertha DOCKERY CARMACK, Fred O. b. 8-18-1945 in Bell Co. to Bertha DOCKERY CARMACK, Gillis C. b. 1-23-1943 in Bell Co. to Bertha DOCKERY Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 3/23/2005 6:11:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, Jnshowl@aol.com writes: > Thank you Joyce for your reply. The information was most helpful. I > remember > my Grandmother saying there was a flood in Kentucky and after that her > Mother > didn't hear from Alice's family again. > I did some more digging and found the following: > Bell County, Kentucky > Hensley Cemetery > Fred Otis Carmack born 5/11/1927 died 11/18/1982 > there are 5 more Carmack's in this cemetery > > Bell County, Middlesboro, Kentucky > Green Hills Memorial Garden part 1 > George T. Carmack born 11/14/1915 died 10/17/1995 C2 > John H. Carmack born 3/6/1913 died 11/14/1994 C2 > there are 4 more Carmack's in this cemetery > > I went to the Middlesboro, KY newspaper web site in hopes of them having an > archives. They do but it only goes to 2000 so far. > Again, thank you for your help. > Jackie Howell > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > Questions about this list? Contact the KYBell list admin: > Lorraine Newsome > kyresearch@sbcglobal.net >

Thank you Joyce for your reply. The information was most helpful. I remember my Grandmother saying there was a flood in Kentucky and after that her Mother didn't hear from Alice's family again. I did some more digging and found the following: Bell County, Kentucky Hensley Cemetery Fred Otis Carmack born 5/11/1927 died 11/18/1982 there are 5 more Carmack's in this cemetery Bell County, Middlesboro, Kentucky Green Hills Memorial Garden part 1 George T. Carmack born 11/14/1915 died 10/17/1995 C2 John H. Carmack born 3/6/1913 died 11/14/1994 C2 there are 4 more Carmack's in this cemetery I went to the Middlesboro, KY newspaper web site in hopes of them having an archives. They do but it only goes to 2000 so far. Again, thank you for your help. Jackie Howell

RESPONSE: Hello, I am not related so far as I know. Most probably all the children listed in the 1920 and 1930 Bell Co. Fed. Census belong to this Huse and Alice WILSON CARMACK. KY didn't begin recording births until 1911 and even then it was not a perfect system for a number of years. Births were missed. There are duplicate recordings in some cases. Floods occurred and birth records were reconstructed, etc. I picked up just a few births on the Ky Birth Index CD's available from the State of KY: CARMACK, John b. 3-6-1913 in Bell Co. to Alice WILSON, maiden name CARMACK, Fred O. b. 5-11-1927 in Bell to Alice WILSON CARMACK, Ruth Jane b. 5-21-1926 in Bell to Alice L. WILSON On the KY Death Index, there is: CARMACK, Alice died on 11-4-1958 in Bell Co., KY at age 75 years, Vol. 47, Cert 23171 CARMACK, Huse F., died 6-11-1962 in Bell Co., KY at the age of 74 years, Vol. 25, Cert 12154 On the SSDI: CARMACK, George died 10-17-1995; born: 11-14-1915; SS#402-12-4596; last address: Middlesboro, Bell Co., KY CARMACK, John H. died 3-16-1913; born: 11-14-1913; SS#402-12-4603; last address: Middlesboro, Bell Co., KY There is a marriage record in the Bell Co. Marr. Index: CARMACK, George to SOUTHERLAND, Bertha, Book 96, Page 104; dated: January 19, 1937 CARMACK, Sarah Lee to DANIELS, Fred on Oct 12, 1935, Book 94, Page 133 CARMACK, Ruth to Andy JONES on Sept 16, 1933, Book 78, Page 64 This one I don't quite understand because it looks like it could be this Huse CARMACK but not to Alice so might be a first marriage for him: June 3, 1910 CARMOCK, Huston to BURCHETT, Pollie, Book N, Page 554 Hope this helps. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 3/22/2005 8:08:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com writes: > Hello all, > I am new to the list and need a little help. I have an obit from Gate City > [Scott County], Virginia, on my Great Great Grandfather, Jesse Wilson. The > newspaper is dated October 22, 1953, and has two daughters listed as > survivors; > Mrs. Andy Elliott of Snowflake, VA and Mrs. Huse Carmack of Middlesboro, KY. > Mrs. Huse Carmack is Jesse's daughter, Alice L. Wilson and Mrs. Andy Elliott > > is Effie B. Wilson. Both of these ladies are sisters to my Great Grandmother > > Ethel F. Wilson Lockridge. > I have researched and found the following: > 1920 census Bell Co., Middlesborough, KY, Precient 2 Westend, Middlesborough > > City, roll T625_559, ED 27 pg 15A > household 119 136 > 44 Carmack Huse h o MW 32 M TN TN KY miner coal mine > 45 Carmack Alice wife FW 30 M TN TN TN no occ > 46 Carmack Harvey L. son MW 8 S KY TN TN > 47 Carmack John son MW 5 S KY TN TN > 48 Carmack Della dau FW 3 2/12 S KY TN TN > 49 Carmack Sarah dau FW 7/12 S KY TN TN > > 1930 KY, Bell County, Magisterial District 4th, Brans Fork Road, sheet 11A, > pg 197 > 201 201 > 37*Carmack Huie h r MW 4[6] M 26 KY TN KY coal loader mines > 38 Carmack Allice wifeh FW 45 M 12 VA VA VA no occ > 39 Carmack Harvey son MW 18 S VA KY VA loads coal mines > 40 Carmack John H. son MW 1[7]S KY KY VA loads coal mines > 41 Carmack George son MW 14 S KY KY VA > 42 Carmack Sarah L. dau FW 10 S KY KY VA > 43 Carmack China B. dau FW 8 S KY KY VA > 44 Carmack Ruth dau FW 6 S KY KY VA > 45 Carmack Fred O. son MW 2 1/12 S KY KY VA > * listed as Huie but looks like Huce. > > Are these folks the same family I am looking for? I cannot go forward in > time > now, but that is my wish. Can anyone help me with my Carmack's? > Thank you so much, > Jackie Howell >

Hello all, I am new to the list and need a little help. I have an obit from Gate City [Scott County], Virginia, on my Great Great Grandfather, Jesse Wilson. The newspaper is dated October 22, 1953, and has two daughters listed as survivors; Mrs. Andy Elliott of Snowflake, VA and Mrs. Huse Carmack of Middlesboro, KY. Mrs. Huse Carmack is Jesse's daughter, Alice L. Wilson and Mrs. Andy Elliott is Effie B. Wilson. Both of these ladies are sisters to my Great Grandmother Ethel F. Wilson Lockridge. I have researched and found the following: 1920 census Bell Co., Middlesborough, KY, Precient 2 Westend, Middlesborough City, roll T625_559, ED 27 pg 15A household 119 136 44 Carmack Huse h o MW 32 M TN TN KY miner coal mine 45 Carmack Alice wife FW 30 M TN TN TN no occ 46 Carmack Harvey L. son MW 8 S KY TN TN 47 Carmack John son MW 5 S KY TN TN 48 Carmack Della dau FW 3 2/12 S KY TN TN 49 Carmack Sarah dau FW 7/12 S KY TN TN 1930 KY, Bell County, Magisterial District 4th, Brans Fork Road, sheet 11A, pg 197 201 201 37*Carmack Huie h r MW 4[6] M 26 KY TN KY coal loader mines 38 Carmack Allice wifeh FW 45 M 12 VA VA VA no occ 39 Carmack Harvey son MW 18 S VA KY VA loads coal mines 40 Carmack John H. son MW 1[7]S KY KY VA loads coal mines 41 Carmack George son MW 14 S KY KY VA 42 Carmack Sarah L. dau FW 10 S KY KY VA 43 Carmack China B. dau FW 8 S KY KY VA 44 Carmack Ruth dau FW 6 S KY KY VA 45 Carmack Fred O. son MW 2 1/12 S KY KY VA * listed as Huie but looks like Huce. Are these folks the same family I am looking for? I cannot go forward in time now, but that is my wish. Can anyone help me with my Carmack's? Thank you so much, Jackie Howell

List i've posted this before. JOHN was list as the 1/2 brother to ELIZABETH MAYES PARKER CRAVENS, she died in 1927 in WALLINS CREEK,KY. also was listed this odd name VOWELL, anyone know soneone with that name? any NORTH & HUNDLEY/HUNLEY researchers here?. check my other names below. thanks Ray Moore. my MOORE DNA is at: http://small-stuff.com/MOORE/results.htm Number M30219 http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm Maim search for: MOORE,MAYES,TOWNSLEY,(HUNDLEY,MANIS of HAWKINS Co.TN. Searching for related by marriages: WHITEAKER, WHITAKER, NORTH, FIELDS, GRUBBS,POE?, GRAY?, HAUN,LONG,OGLESBY, CRAVENS,VOWELL,PARKER, MOLES, helping others: MOORE,MEADOWS,LAMBERT, PECK, LEONARD. ties to CLAIBORNE,HAWKINS,KNOX.GRAINGER Cos,TN. HARLAN,BELL Cos.KY. WAYNETN. TIPPECANOE & ALLEN Cos.IN. KANKAKEE,ILL.

That was their church and the Red Man hall. It was just over the bridge before you get to the railroad tracks. Brenda

Brenda, I lived in Edgewood, back in the middle 30's I can't remember a Baptist Church in that community, I do remember that church services were held in the School Building which also served as The Red Man Hall. Neal =========================================== SUPPORT OUR TROOPS---FLY THE FLAG "Genealogy is like playing hide and seek. They hide I seek!!! www.byrge.com/genealogy/ Searching: BYRGE/BUNCH/DAUGHERTY/DUNCAN/KENNEDY/ PATTERSON/PHILLIPS/SEIBER/TACKETT/WARD

THANK YOU..... I HAD AN AUNT MINNIE WHO WAS MARRIED WOODROW'S UNCLE HOY SHARP...I WOULD LOVE THE PHOTO. BRENDA

Brenda, I know this is a long shot, but I have a copy of a picture that has been in the family for years. It is a young man wearing overalls, standing outdoors with a bible. On the back of the picture was a note: To Aunt Minnie Woodrow with his bible, My grandfather was from Bell County. If you think this might be your grandfather, I would be happy to send you the picture. Patricia

IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAS A PICTURE OF THE EDGEWOOD BAPTIST CHURCH? IS NO LONGER EXIST AND MY UNCLE HARMON GILBERT WAS A PREACHER THERE FOR MANY YEARS. I THINK MY UNCLE WOODROW GILBERT WAS ALSO A PREACHER THERE. NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE ANY PHOTOS OF THIS CHURCH AND I WOULD LOVE TO GET ONE IF THERE IS ONE OUT THERE.. UNCLE WOODROW IS STILL PREACHING AT A CHURCH IN MONARCH AND HE IS 91 YEARS OLD. BRENDA BOWMAN

Thanks Connie, Your a big help. Deb -----Original Message----- From: Connie Hoskins [mailto:willoweak@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:29 PM To: KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYBELL] Church Debbie, On the Bell web site, there's a listing of a majority of the Bell Co churches. Some of the old ones are no longer in existence. Happy St Paddy's Day! Regards, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Andrews" <Debbie.Andrews@AnesthesiaLLC.com> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:12 PM Subject: [KYBELL] Church > Can any one tell me how to get a list with the names of all the churches > w/ addresses for Bell County, Kentucky? > > Deb > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication (and any attachments) is > intended only for the use by the addressee(s) named and may contain > legally privileged and/or confidential information that is exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of > this email, any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email (and > any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, please immediately notify me by email at the > address shown and permanently delete all copies of this email. Thank you > for your compliance > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this mail list, just send a blank email to: > KYBELL-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word: Unsubscribe in the > body of the email. If you want to unsub from the digest version, > substitute D for the L. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe from this mail list, just send a blank email to: KYBELL-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word: Unsubscribe in the body of the email. If you want to unsub from the digest version, substitute D for the L. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication (and any attachments) is intended only for the use by the addressee(s) named and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information that is exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email (and any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify me by email at the address shown and permanently delete all copies of this email. Thank you for your compliance

Debbie, On the Bell web site, there's a listing of a majority of the Bell Co churches. Some of the old ones are no longer in existence. Happy St Paddy's Day! Regards, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Andrews" <Debbie.Andrews@AnesthesiaLLC.com> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:12 PM Subject: [KYBELL] Church > Can any one tell me how to get a list with the names of all the churches > w/ addresses for Bell County, Kentucky? > > Deb > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication (and any attachments) is > intended only for the use by the addressee(s) named and may contain > legally privileged and/or confidential information that is exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of > this email, any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email (and > any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, please immediately notify me by email at the > address shown and permanently delete all copies of this email. Thank you > for your compliance > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this mail list, just send a blank email to: > KYBELL-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word: Unsubscribe in the > body of the email. If you want to unsub from the digest version, > substitute D for the L. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Can any one tell me how to get a list with the names of all the churches w/ addresses for Bell County, Kentucky? Deb CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication (and any attachments) is intended only for the use by the addressee(s) named and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information that is exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email (and any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify me by email at the address shown and permanently delete all copies of this email. Thank you for your compliance

For those of you who enjoy the history of Bell Co, you might be interested in reading the most recent issue of the Gateway, the journal of the Bell Co Historical Society that has just been mailed to members. In it are articles relating to Arthur Campbell of Middlesboro; a history of the Church of God Mtn Assembly; Martin Gibbons's reminisces of life at Cubbage in the 1940's; an account of the murder of Queen of the Rhine prostitute, Alice Lamb; a short, 1930 sketch of the KU ice plant; a history of the Jacksons of Laurel Hill by Rutha Jackson; and a query list. The cover of the Gateway, which features a silhouette of Daniel Boone on a horse riding through the Gap, was drawn by Ricky Leach who descends from Wm Partin. Wm, b 1760-1770, is the first Partin who settled at Frakes in what was called South America in order to farm and look for Swift's silver. He was unlucky with finding the silver. Information for the society is as follows: PO Box 1344 Middlesboro, KY 40965 606-242-0005 bellhist_society@hotmail.com Further, if you're in Middlesboro at any time, please plan to stop in to visit the Bell Co Historical Museum which is located beside the coal house on 20th St. We have recently received a wealth of rare Bell Co pictures and postcards donated by Roy Frost, formerly of Bell Co. He purchased a majority of them from the estate of Jack Sharpe. Also, David Hurst of Middlesboro donated a huge scrapbook of memorabilia relating to Ig and Ug Fuson of Middlesboro. Ig and Ug descend from James Robinson Fuson, Jr and Lucinda Evans of Little Clear Creek. The Fusons first came to Clear Creek in the very early 1800's and settled beside the Evans family.

I did not know when but knew they spelled it different sometimes. My surgery went really well, my eye is still dialated? tonight, but the doc checked it this morning and said it was fine. So far it is good. I will be glad to get back to helping at the society. And how are you? Rutha

Rutha, The Bulls in Bell started using Buell in the early 1900's. How was your eye surgery? Regards, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: " RJackson" <jackson1652@bellsouth.net> To: <KYBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [KYBELL] Catherine Bull > You probably already know that Bull is spelled "Buel" sometimes here in > Bell > County. > > Rutha > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > Questions about this list? Contact the KYBell list admin: > Lorraine Newsome > kyresearch@sbcglobal.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

You probably already know that Bull is spelled "Buel" sometimes here in Bell County. Rutha

Sorry.. The Obits were in Wednesdays newspaper not Monday. Just checked the Daily News web page.. The Obits from Wednesday have not been updated yet. Should have checked before I sent message. SURNAMES OF BELL, KNOX AND CLAY CO KY. GOODIN, HENDRICKSON, ASHER,BOWLING , PFAFF, DOWNEY SURNAMES OF NE TENNESSEE. GOFORTH, VAN BIBBER, KINCAID, WILSON'S IN UNION AND CLAIBORNE CO.