This is my great grandmother's death certificate. Her name was Melzelia and they had her name on the death certificate as Nell Zealy Hooker. Just goes to show how wrong the records can be. Melzelia Hooker (Nell Zealy Hooker on Certificate) Certificate Number 3025 White, Female, Married Date of death Dec. 28, 1939 Place of death Blanche, Bell County, Kentucky Date of birth Nov. 18, 1880 Age at death 59 years, 20 days Place of birth Clay County, Kentucky Name of father D______Y (Daugherty) Smith, born Clay County, Ky. Name of mother Janie Jackson, born Clay County, Ky. Cause of death Tuberculosis Pulmonary Occupation Housewife Burial Blanche, Bell County, Kentucky Undertaker Brandenburg Gibson, Pineville, Ky. Informant Frank Hooker Registrar Helen Pearl

Joyce, Morning! I have just received, and copied out, a register report for the MADDOX family. This was sent to me by Denny & Marla from the web site. There is some info about Thomas CARROLL and Elizabeth GIBBS but I'm not sure it is correct. In reference to their marriage, they give a source as the "Clairborne Co., TN Marriages 1838-1935" by Mark Treadway, bk 5, pg 286. Since you mentioned checking for Clairborne marriages c 1892, I was wondering if you have this particular book? If so, will you check page 286 for me? Thanks Pat > RESPONSE: > From what I have read, Mr. Arthur who was instrumental in the development > of the town of Middlesboro did not begin until in the 1880's late. So, it > is most confusing. My impression is that there was no Middleboro in 1865. > It is early on referred to as being located in what was the Yellow Creek > Valley along the 18th century Wilderness Road (today's US 25E in > southeastern KY. It lies south of Pineville, the county seat. > > I also checked marriages in the general time frame of 1892 for Claiborne > co., TN and did not find the marriage there. It will be interesting to > know where you do finally locate them. > > Joyce C. > > Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > > I've just started on this > branch of the family and found Middlesboro currently in Bell County. I > haven't checked anywhere yet to find out which county Middlesboro was in in > > 1865. < > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks Mary, Charlotte

Dock Smith Certificate Number 3101 Date of death January 12, 1940, 2:15 PM Cause of death Diabetes Mellitus Place of death Middlesboro, Bell County, Ky. Date of birth unknown White, Male, Widowed Length of time in community 45 years Age at death 68 years Place of birth Tennessee Occupation Mining, Load Coal Father unknown Mother Louvenia Smith, born Tennessee Burial Middlesboro, Bell County, Ky. Funeral Director Hobart Cawood, Middlesboro, Ky. Informant Ernest Smith, Middlesboro, Ky. Registrar Helen Pearl

RESPONSE: I apologize. I had checked my book and thought I checked on both sides of 1892 and did not see their marriage. I rechecked again this am. and located what appears to be their marriage. This is only an Index so you would have to order the marriage record iformation from the courthouse. CARRELL, Thomas to GIBBS, Annly in 1889, Book 5 , Page 286 I've been to that courthouse. Be prepared there may not actually be any marriage record as such. What I found they mostly had were huge volumes of books with more like registery's in that. It would include the name of the bride and groom, the minister and the complete date, including day and month. In some cases there was an actual record we could copy but not in most of them. I believe they charge maybe $3 or something like that. We just used their copier machine in the courthouse and made copies for maybe 10 cents or something like that. Joyce C. Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] >Joyce, Morning! I have just received, and copied out, a register report for the MADDOX family. This was sent to me by Denny & Marla from the web site. There is some info about Thomas CARROLL and Elizabeth GIBBS but I'm not sure it is correct. In reference to their marriage, they give a source as the "Clairborne Co., TN Marriages 1838-1935" by Mark Treadway, bk 5, pg 286. Since you mentioned checking for Clairborne marriages c 1892, I was wondering if you have this particular book? If so, will you check page 286 for me? Thanks Pat<

Jane Smith Date of death Sept. 13, 1946 White, Female, Married Place of death Pineville, Bell County, Kentucky Age at death 58 Cause of death Tuberculosis of lungs Place of birth Knox County, Kentucky Date of birth May 31, 1888 Occupation Housewife Father Bill Hubbard, born unknown Mother unknown Burial Flat Lick, Ky. Informant Enoch Smith Funeral director N. T. Vernett? and son, Pineville, Ky. Registrar Helen Pearl

Jane Smith Certificate Number 24762 Date of death Sept. 1, 1914 Place of death Whitley County, Kentucky Date of birth May 9, 1854 Age at death 60 years, 3 months, 23 days Parents unknown Birthplace Kentucky Cause of death Acute dilatation of heart, contributory Aortic regurgitation Burial Steely graveyard Informant Alexander Moses Registrar ? Davenport

The funeral director was likely N. T. Arnett & Son. They are still in business. Try http://www.arnettsteele.com/ Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: [KYBELL] Jane Smith Death Certificate > Jane Smith > Date of death Sept. 13, 1946 > White, Female, Married > Place of death Pineville, Bell County, Kentucky > Age at death 58 > Cause of death Tuberculosis of lungs > Place of birth Knox County, Kentucky > Date of birth May 31, 1888 > Occupation Housewife > Father Bill Hubbard, born unknown > Mother unknown > Burial Flat Lick, Ky. > Informant Enoch Smith > Funeral director N. T. Vernett? and son, Pineville, Ky. > Registrar Helen Pearl > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Does anyone know anything about this Jane Smith? Jane Smith Certificate Number 14778 Place of death Fount, Knox County, Kentucky Date of death May 18, 1917 Female, White, Married Occupation Housewife Date of Birth Unknown month, 1867 Age at death 50 Birthplace Clay County, Kentucky Father Hiram Smith Mother Nancy Stewart Informant S. Smith Sproule? Kentucky Burial John O. Mills Undertaker John O. Mills Registrar F. F. Rowland Thanks, Charlotte

Eller Smith Certificate No. 70-23636 Date of death Sept. 11, 1970 Age at death 70 Place of death Sraight Creek, Bell County, Ky. Female, White, Widowed Date of birth Dec. 25, 1899 Place of birth Kentucky Occupation Housewife Business or Industry says own home Residence Straight Creek, Bell County, Ky. Father Dawl Smith Mother America Smith Informant Croley Smith Cause of death Myocardial Infarction, sudden, due to or a consequence of ASHD of years Buried at Red Hill Cemetery, Arjay, Bell County, Ky. Robert Walden , embalmer

I am trying to contact a Jim Wilson who sent the following message to the Bell Co. list. Does anyone have any more info. on this? I am interested in Raymond Simpson. Bev [email protected] On 29 March 1930, 16 miners died as the result of a gas explosion in the Pioneer Coal mine, Kettle Island, Bell county, KY.. Below is a list of those miners killed with number of dependents. This information was obtained from the minutes of the reunion for family members of those miners killed, held 5 September 1987 at Kettle Island, KY.. The listing is as was given in the minutes, except as additional notes by me (Note JW). If anyone has any knowledge of this mine accident or the families involved, please contact me. "The men who were interred when the explosion occurred in the Pioneer Coal Company mine with their dependents follows".... LUTHER HODGE - A wife MASON FULTZ - A wife and eight children. (Note JW - Full name was John C. Mason Fultz, s/o William Harrison Fultz & Margaret RICE. Wife was Lucy WILSON, d/o John Harrison Wilson and Caroline BUSH. I have the names of three of the eight children, Everett A., Clyde Otis, & Gracie. Anyone know of any others?) JOHN ENGLE - A wife and four children ADRIAN HELTON - A wife and three children ELMER STEELE - A wife and three children RAYMOND SIMPSON - A wife HARVEY ALLEN - A wife and eight children (Edith Nelson married Charlie and she's here today) M.C. VAN - Assistant Foreman - A wife and two children. (Note JW - The diary of Robert Moore lists this miner as McADAMS or MacADAMS.) DAVE SOWDERS - A wife and one child J.E. HILL - A wife and six children (I think he was the General Mine foreman, and I could not find his children. Nobody could ever tell me what happened to them (Clyde & Azilee). I could never locate them.) JESSE LASLEY - A wife and two children J.L. JONES - A wife and five children JOHN L. COX - A wife and two children LEE A. JOHNSON - A wife and one child SAM PROFFITT - (who lived at Jenson) a wife and six children ED OSBORNE - 17 years old and single. (Ed was Uncle Dave Osborne's son. Do you remember them? They used to live down there right in front of the tipple.) Any help would be most appreciated, John Wilson in FL

I am not a Carroll research but I would check out Claiborne County Tennessee. I know there were some Carroll's in the 1880 census and these would have been in the area across Fonde Mountain on that side of Claiborne County because this family is listed near my folks. On page 384 of the book, "Clearfork and More", in the census is the following family: Carroll, Wesley 48 Minister, Nancy (york) 48 , Mary 14, Lindy 12, William 10, Martin 8, Sheridan 2, Alice 4 Another place in this book mentions that the Carroll families were in Bell County from the beginning. I did not find a William or Thomas Carroll anywhere else in the book. norma > > Wrom: YUCDDJBLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPW > Date: 2003/01/19 Sun AM 07:02:22 CST > To: [email protected] > Subject: KYBELL-D Digest V03 #9 > > KYBELL-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 9 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [KYBELL] CARROLL - CLAPP [[email protected]] > #2 [KYBELL] CARROLL - CLAPP [Joyce Collins <[email protected]] > #3 Re: [KYBELL] CARROLL - CLAPP [[email protected]] > #4 Re: [KYBELL] CARROLL - CLAPP [Joyce Collins <[email protected]] > #5 Re: [KYBELL] CARROLL - CLAPP [donna garland <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from KYBELL-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the list administrator, send mail to > [email protected] > > ______________________________ > Hi All, > I have just started research this brance of my family. I'm trying to find > info about Thomas C. CARROLL b 1865 in Middleboro. His parents were William > CARROLL and Lillian CLAPP. He married Elizabeth Ann GIBBS c 1892. Does > anyone have any info? > Thanks > Pat > > ______________________________ > RESPONSE: > Thomas CARROLL would not have been born in Bell Co. at Middlesboro in 1865 > because the county was not created until 1867 with the 1870 being their > first Fed. Census. The area probably later on became Bell Co. Bell was > formed from parts of Knox Co. and Harlan Co. > > On the 1870 Bell Co., there is this listing but no Thomas. > > Dwelling 131-123 > CARROL, William H., 46, b. TN > . . Letha, 28, b. TN > . . John W., 14, TN > . . Daniel H., 12, TN > . . Mary E., 10, b. TN > . . Andrew, 6, b. KY > . . Martha, 3 mo's, b. KY (b. Feb. 1870) > RUTHERFORD, Mary, 4, b. VA > BURNS, Eliza, 23, b. KY > > This same family appears on the 1880 but still there is no Thomas. I've > just checked the 1870 Harlan Co. and there were no CARROLLs. There are > CARROLLS in the 1870 Knox Co. but there is no William or Lillian or > similiar and no Thomas. I do not see a marriage for Elizabeth Ann GIBBS > and Thomas CARROLL in Bell Co. I do not see Thomas or Elizabeth CARROLL on > the 1900 Bell Co. > > Perhaps you need to recheck your information on where they were. > > Joyce Taylor Collins > La Palma, CA > > Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > >Hi All, > I have just started research this brance of my family. I'm trying to find > info about Thomas C. CARROLL b 1865 in Middleboro. His parents were > William > CARROLL and Lillian CLAPP. He married Elizabeth Ann GIBBS c 1892. Does > anyone have any info? > Thanks > Pat > < > > ______________________________ > Joyce, > Hi! Thanks for responding. OK, the only info I have is that Thomas was born > in Middleboro in 1865. He married Elizabeth Ann Gibbs who was from Clairborne > Tenessee. Their 1st born, Dorcus Victoria b 25 Aug 1893 (My husband's > maternal grandmother) was born in Knox County Tennessee. Yes, I was aware > that Bell County was not formed till 1867 or so. I've just started on this > branch of the family and found Middlesboro currently in Bell County. I > haven't checked anywhere yet to find out which county Middlesboro was in in > 1865. Do you know? I really don't know where Thomas's parents were from, or > where they were in 1870, just that the info I have is that Thomas was born in > Middleboro in 1865. I did not find them in the 1870 or 1880 census in > Kentucky. I was hoping that someone might have some info on his parents, > William CARROLL and Lillian CLAPP, since it appears they were in Middlesboro > in 1865! I'm going to try and get to the Naitonal Archives next week and will > check the Tennessee census. Do you have any other suggestions? > Thanks again for responding!! > Pat > Do you have any other suggestions? > Pat in Colorado. > > RESPONSE: > > Thomas CARROLL would not have been born in Bell Co. at Middlesboro in 1865 > > because the county was not created until 1867 with the 1870 being their > > first Fed. Census. The area probably later on became Bell Co. Bell was > > formed from parts of Knox Co. and Harlan Co. > > > > On the 1870 Bell Co., there is this listing but no Thomas. > > > > Dwelling 131-123 > > CARROL, William H., 46, b. TN > > . . Letha, 28, b. TN > > . . John W., 14, TN > > . . Daniel H., 12, TN > > . . Mary E., 10, b. TN > > . . Andrew, 6, b. KY > > . . Martha, 3 mo's, b. KY (b. Feb. 1870) > > RUTHERFORD, Mary, 4, b. VA > > BURNS, Eliza, 23, b. KY > > > > This same family appears on the 1880 but still there is no Thomas. I've > > just checked the 1870 Harlan Co. and there were no CARROLLs. There are > > CARROLLS in the 1870 Knox Co. but there is no William or Lillian or > > similiar and no Thomas. I do not see a marriage for Elizabeth Ann GIBBS > > and Thomas CARROLL in Bell Co. I do not see Thomas or Elizabeth CARROLL on > > the 1900 Bell Co. > > > > Perhaps you need to recheck your information on where they were. > > > > Joyce Taylor Collins > > La Palma, CA > > > > Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > > >Hi All, > > I have just started research this brance of my family. I'm trying to find > > info about Thomas C. CARROLL b 1865 in Middleboro. His parents were > > William > > CARROLL and Lillian CLAPP. He married Elizabeth Ann GIBBS c 1892. Does > > anyone have any info? > > Thanks > > Pat > > < > > > > > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ______________________________ > RESPONSE: > From what I have read, Mr. Arthur who was instrumental in the development > of the town of Middlesboro did not begin until in the 1880's late. So, it > is most confusing. My impression is that there was no Middleboro in 1865. > It is early on referred to as being located in what was the Yellow Creek > Valley along the 18th century Wilderness Road (today's US 25E in > southeastern KY. It lies south of Pineville, the county seat. > > I also checked marriages in the general time frame of 1892 for Claiborne > co., TN and did not find the marriage there. It will be interesting to > know where you do finally locate them. > > Joyce C. > > Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > > I've just started on this > branch of the family and found Middlesboro currently in Bell County. I > haven't checked anywhere yet to find out which county Middlesboro was in in > > 1865. < > > ______________________________ > hi pat, > could you contact me privately. not sure if there is a connection, but my carrolls > were from lee county, va but some moved to bell county ky. > donna > > [email protected] wrote: > > > Hi All, > > I have just started research this brance of my family. I'm trying to find > > info about Thomas C. CARROLL b 1865 in Middleboro. His parents were William > > CARROLL and Lillian CLAPP. He married Elizabeth Ann GIBBS c 1892. Does > > anyone have any info? > > Thanks > > Pat > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > Lord McCauley said, " A people that takes no interest in the worthy achievements of remote ancestors will never achieve anything worthy to be remembered by remote descendents."

hi pat, could you contact me privately. not sure if there is a connection, but my carrolls were from lee county, va but some moved to bell county ky. donna [email protected] wrote: > Hi All, > I have just started research this brance of my family. I'm trying to find > info about Thomas C. CARROLL b 1865 in Middleboro. His parents were William > CARROLL and Lillian CLAPP. He married Elizabeth Ann GIBBS c 1892. Does > anyone have any info? > Thanks > Pat > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Joyce, Hi! Thanks for responding. OK, the only info I have is that Thomas was born in Middleboro in 1865. He married Elizabeth Ann Gibbs who was from Clairborne Tenessee. Their 1st born, Dorcus Victoria b 25 Aug 1893 (My husband's maternal grandmother) was born in Knox County Tennessee. Yes, I was aware that Bell County was not formed till 1867 or so. I've just started on this branch of the family and found Middlesboro currently in Bell County. I haven't checked anywhere yet to find out which county Middlesboro was in in 1865. Do you know? I really don't know where Thomas's parents were from, or where they were in 1870, just that the info I have is that Thomas was born in Middleboro in 1865. I did not find them in the 1870 or 1880 census in Kentucky. I was hoping that someone might have some info on his parents, William CARROLL and Lillian CLAPP, since it appears they were in Middlesboro in 1865! I'm going to try and get to the Naitonal Archives next week and will check the Tennessee census. Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks again for responding!! Pat Do you have any other suggestions? Pat in Colorado. > RESPONSE: > Thomas CARROLL would not have been born in Bell Co. at Middlesboro in 1865 > because the county was not created until 1867 with the 1870 being their > first Fed. Census. The area probably later on became Bell Co. Bell was > formed from parts of Knox Co. and Harlan Co. > > On the 1870 Bell Co., there is this listing but no Thomas. > > Dwelling 131-123 > CARROL, William H., 46, b. TN > . . Letha, 28, b. TN > . . John W., 14, TN > . . Daniel H., 12, TN > . . Mary E., 10, b. TN > . . Andrew, 6, b. KY > . . Martha, 3 mo's, b. KY (b. Feb. 1870) > RUTHERFORD, Mary, 4, b. VA > BURNS, Eliza, 23, b. KY > > This same family appears on the 1880 but still there is no Thomas. I've > just checked the 1870 Harlan Co. and there were no CARROLLs. There are > CARROLLS in the 1870 Knox Co. but there is no William or Lillian or > similiar and no Thomas. I do not see a marriage for Elizabeth Ann GIBBS > and Thomas CARROLL in Bell Co. I do not see Thomas or Elizabeth CARROLL on > the 1900 Bell Co. > > Perhaps you need to recheck your information on where they were. > > Joyce Taylor Collins > La Palma, CA > > Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > >Hi All, > I have just started research this brance of my family. I'm trying to find > info about Thomas C. CARROLL b 1865 in Middleboro. His parents were > William > CARROLL and Lillian CLAPP. He married Elizabeth Ann GIBBS c 1892. Does > anyone have any info? > Thanks > Pat > < > > > > ==== KYBELL Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

RESPONSE: From what I have read, Mr. Arthur who was instrumental in the development of the town of Middlesboro did not begin until in the 1880's late. So, it is most confusing. My impression is that there was no Middleboro in 1865. It is early on referred to as being located in what was the Yellow Creek Valley along the 18th century Wilderness Road (today's US 25E in southeastern KY. It lies south of Pineville, the county seat. I also checked marriages in the general time frame of 1892 for Claiborne co., TN and did not find the marriage there. It will be interesting to know where you do finally locate them. Joyce C. Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > I've just started on this branch of the family and found Middlesboro currently in Bell County. I haven't checked anywhere yet to find out which county Middlesboro was in in 1865. <

Hi All, I have just started research this brance of my family. I'm trying to find info about Thomas C. CARROLL b 1865 in Middleboro. His parents were William CARROLL and Lillian CLAPP. He married Elizabeth Ann GIBBS c 1892. Does anyone have any info? Thanks Pat

RESPONSE: Thomas CARROLL would not have been born in Bell Co. at Middlesboro in 1865 because the county was not created until 1867 with the 1870 being their first Fed. Census. The area probably later on became Bell Co. Bell was formed from parts of Knox Co. and Harlan Co. On the 1870 Bell Co., there is this listing but no Thomas. Dwelling 131-123 CARROL, William H., 46, b. TN . . Letha, 28, b. TN . . John W., 14, TN . . Daniel H., 12, TN . . Mary E., 10, b. TN . . Andrew, 6, b. KY . . Martha, 3 mo's, b. KY (b. Feb. 1870) RUTHERFORD, Mary, 4, b. VA BURNS, Eliza, 23, b. KY This same family appears on the 1880 but still there is no Thomas. I've just checked the 1870 Harlan Co. and there were no CARROLLs. There are CARROLLS in the 1870 Knox Co. but there is no William or Lillian or similiar and no Thomas. I do not see a marriage for Elizabeth Ann GIBBS and Thomas CARROLL in Bell Co. I do not see Thomas or Elizabeth CARROLL on the 1900 Bell Co. Perhaps you need to recheck your information on where they were. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] >Hi All, I have just started research this brance of my family. I'm trying to find info about Thomas C. CARROLL b 1865 in Middleboro. His parents were William CARROLL and Lillian CLAPP. He married Elizabeth Ann GIBBS c 1892. Does anyone have any info? Thanks Pat <

I have found John Ferrell, ( spelled "Ferrill") in the 1910 Bell Co Census, along with the following family, Dora Belle W 25 Kentucky Rosa F D 12 Kentucky Bige S 10 Kentucky Enon M S 07 Kentucky Nettie D 05 Kentucky Ethel D 03 Kentucky Bertha D NR Kentucky Can anyone give me more information on this family. Thanks Ed Jackson__________________________________________________________________ Ed Jackson ICQ#: 3535507 Current ICQ status: ( Home Tel#: 606 526 6683 + More ways to contact me __________________________________________________________________

RESPONSE: Hello, I really don't know anything about this FERRELL family; however, from the way they are listed on the 1900 Bell Co. Fed. Census, it would appear they were siblings. There is no FERRELL family on the 1880 Bell Co. The census indicates they were from KY, somewhere. Dwelling 155 - ED19 TURNER, James D., 27 . . Mattie, wife, 22 . . Margrett J., dau, 1 FERRELL, John, brother-in-law, 22 FERRELL, William, brother-in-law, 20 Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] >Hi, I am looking for information on John, William, and Mattie Ferrell, who lived in Bell Co.during the 1900 census. Are these brothers and sister? And who were the parents? Any information appreciated.....Ed Jackson __________________________________________________________________ Ed Jackson ICQ#: 3535507 Current ICQ status: ( Home Tel#: 606 526 6683 + More ways to contact me __________________________________________________________________ <

Hi, I am looking for information on John, William, and Mattie Ferrell, who lived in Bell Co.during the 1900 census. Are these brothers and sister? And who were the parents? Any information appreciated.....Ed Jackson __________________________________________________________________ Ed Jackson ICQ#: 3535507 Current ICQ status: ( Home Tel#: 606 526 6683 + More ways to contact me __________________________________________________________________