JUST MAKING SURE THIS WORKS COMP WENT DOWN LAST WEEK SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE BOBBY HUNT

Zahn, At least we... Pete Bailey and myself found one of our "Charles Bailey's" a few years ago... this is my direct descendant!! 1860 Census of Bath County, Kentucky: #1338 Charles Bailey 60 Ky Martha 58 Charles W. 15 __________________________________________________________________ From an article in the Owingsville Outlook, dated Thursday the 31st of December 1896, listed under deaths, it reads: Mrs. Eliza Ann Green died at her home in Rowan county near Ile's Mill last Sunday. Buried Monday at Slaty Point burial ground. SHE WAS THE DAUGHTER OF CHARLES BAILEY, SR., who removed to Texas and died there a few years ago. JUDGE WARREN BAILEY OF FREESTONE, (Bluestone or Bull Fork is closer to the actual location), IS A BROTHER, (of Eliza Ann Green I presume), she was wedded to Sampson Green. Several children, but only their son John survived. ______________________________________________________________________ A plethoria of CHARLES C. BAILEYs to sort out?? A Charles Bailey was one of the two sons that John charged with the responsibility of looking after their mother. William Kozee in his book "Pioneer Families of Eastern and Southeastern Kentucky" made another of his several errors regarding the John Bailey family. Like him, I (Pete Bailey) suspect/assumed that the 50 year old Charles Bailey listed in the 1850 census was John Bailey, Sr's son Charles C. Bailey. I (Pete Bailey) further assumed, like Kozee, that he was the same Charles Bailey who had married Martha England on 18 July 1821. A Charles Bailey DID marry a Martha and the wife listed in the 1850 census for Charles was Martha, age 47. Also listed are children Hannah E., age 14; Charles W., 3; and John, 15. _____________________________________________________________________ Will Book B contains an entry for November, 1829, that states the following: "Charles C. Bailey infant orphan of John Bailey, decd, over the age of 14 chose William H. Lyman as guardian." Order Book of the November Bath County Court of 1829: "Charles C. Bailey, infant orphan of John Bailey, deceased, over the age of fourteen years, came personally into court and made choice of William H. Lyman as his Guardian who together with Ignatius Davis, his security, entered into and acknowledged bond in the penalty of one hundred and fifty dollars conditioned according to Law." This kind of entry is found frequently in court records of the time. It seems that the law at the time called for the Court to appoint guardians for children under fourteen but at fourteen he (not "she'") could go to court and select a guardian of his choice. This appears to occur when a neighbor or relative is willing to give the boy a job or apprenticeship. This Charles C. Bailey does not appear in any future census for Bath County?? ______________________________________________________________________ _ OTHER CHARLES BAILEYs Keeping the Charles Baileys sorted out is very difficult. In addition to the two already discussed there are two others in the similar time frame. The Charles Bailey who died in 1835 was the son of the William Bailey who had died in 1817 (who we suspect was the father of John Sr.) The Charles Richard Bailey who was born in 1836 was the son of Edward Bailey. There are several Charles Baileys in the next generation. Good luck in keeping them straight. ______________________________________________________________________ Trickham Cemetery, Coleman Co., Texas There are actually two cemeteries at Trickham, which is a small old community about 14 miles southeast of Santa Anna, Texas. The earliest graves are located in the town site and date from the 1860's. There remain here today only five cut-rock crypts with no inscriptions and are thought to be the graves of Charlie McCain, Dave Upton (son of Joe Wright), and possibly Charlie Ellington; all said to have been killed by Indians. Early settlers could remember at least seventeen grave here at one time. These graves were located all around the rock crypts, with many to the north and east. The area around the rock crypts are kept mowed, but the remainder of the old cemetery area is overgrown with cactus, mesquite, and grass. Sometime in the late 1870's, Trickham residents began to bury their dead up the hill west of the town. We have been unable to determine why the cemetery in the town site was abandoned and the burial place changed. Was the first site too crowded or did the residents not want the cemetery so close to their living places? The current Trickham Cemetery is reached by driving west a short distance on a dirt county road from FM 1176. In 1893, Mrs. M. M. Sanders of Clark Co., Mississippi came to Coleman County to claim the land her late husband had purchased. Finding many graves under a large oak tree on the land, she had a five and one-half acre plot fenced and deeded to the community of Trickham for a free burial place. Today this cemetery is well kept and fenced, with gates on the East and South. Roads run from these gates and intersect in the West part of the cemetery. We have used these roads to divide the cemetery into Sections A (southeast part), Section B (northeast part), and Section C (west part). ______________________________________________________________________ _________________ Johnny Mack Souder Descendent Scribe ----- Original Message ----- From: <StarrZahn@aol.com> To: <souderj@mindspring.com> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [KYBATH] Chastain/Maxey > Sarah Rice was born Feb 14, 1788 and married Fleming Rice when she was very > young. They only had one son, Jefferson Rice, born 1806. In 1808 Fleming was > shot by Indians in Montgomery County, but lived long enough to write a will > dated April 28, 1808. In this will he names his wife Sarah Bailey and young > son Jefferson. According to my family history when Jeff Rice was just a > teenager his mother married Ignatious Davis in Bath Co. Jeff soon found it > desirable to strike out on his own, and become a "self-made man". Jeff > married Nancy Wright Richards. > > Now Charles C. Rice is another problem. John Bailey had two wives. He had a > son Charles C. who is apparently the son by the second wife, Anna Jane ? as > he refers to him in his will as a son by Jane. Also you are right and the > Charles C. Bailey who married Martha England could not have been the son of > John and Anna Jane as he is too old on the 1850 census. I think that since we > know from will of John Bailey Senior that his Charles is not the one who > married Martha England and that your Charles C. was born in 1799 based on the > fact he was 50 on 1850 census then he must indeed have been the son of John > Bailey Sr.'s brother Warren who married Mary Polly Rice. Do you know who the > parents of Mary Polly Rice were? > Zahn

Would like to hear from anyone with knowledge of the HART family in Bath Co Thanks Barbara

I am looking for someone with knowledge of the Hart family in Bath Co, to help me with finding the parents of Nancy Hart who married Thomas Copher. Nancy was born c 1877 and died 5-13-1966. Children include William Copher 1910-1984, Etta Gilmore Copher (Ray Hart) 1912-1956, Edith Jane Copher 1915-1943 married Kern Wells , Rosie Copher married Asbury Faudere Thanks Barbara

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Will Sharp was a mail carrier and a policeman in Sharpsburg in the early 1900's. Can anyone tell me about his family? Jane in Idaho

Marilyn, my great uncle Strawder Kendall's occupation was "Laborer - Bicycle Co." in the 1920 Middletown, Butler, Ohio census. He was age 20 at that time. I assume the company was a bicycle manufacturer. Another possibility is a playing card company but I don't remember hearing or reading anything to confirm that company's presence. Jim

Hello all, I know that our group has discussed the Middletown migration in past years and I THINK that we also covered the different occupations that our KY folks pursued in Ohio. Thanks to the online 1920 census index on Ancestry.com, I was able to find two great uncles I have been searching for for several years: Daniel Boone Downs (married to Peach Daniels) and John Downs (married to Elizabeth Cornwell.) The census tells me that one of them worked at a steel mill. I cannot make out the other one's occupation and am looking for some help. All I can get out of it is "Bicycle -----" Whatever it was he was doing with bicycles, his 19 year old son was also involved in the same profession. Does anyone have any ideas what their jobs might have been? Thanks, Marilyn

Is there anyone who could do a will look-up for me at the Bath Co. Courthouse? James William Sharp died 7 Oct 1944. I need to know who his heirs were. If there was an obituary in the local newspaper that would be okay also. I'm getting desperate. This family is my big brick wall. Jane in Idaho

Thanks to all those who answered by request about the Copher Reunion. Also, would like to hear from anyone who descends from Samuel Hart, born early 1800, married in Bath Co to Elizabeth Wells in 1819. Thanks Barbara

Is the Copher Reunion still held at the Lions Club Park? If so, when? Also searching for info on French and Mary WELLS Copher and Thomas and Rebecca WELLS Copher. Thanks Barbara

Barbara, Last I heard the COPHER Reunion is the weekend of July 26 - 28th and will be at Lions Club Park in Owingsville. Jill Horseman Fitzhugh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara W. Ingram" <bwingram@mrtc.com> To: <KYBATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: [KYBATH] Copher Reunion Is the Copher Reunion still held at the Lions Club Park? If so, when? Also searching for info on French and Mary WELLS Copher and Thomas and Rebecca WELLS Copher. Thanks Barbara

I read in the J.A. Richards "History of Bath County" that the Kendall Springs cemetery was originally the private cemetery of Billy Frame. Anyone know anything about that? Is there a list of Frame burials in that cemetery? A William Frame was the grandfather of Mary Jackson who married William Rayburn, some of my ancestors. I wonder if the Billy Frame Richards refered to as arriving about 1815 in the Kendall Springs vicinity is the same William Frame. Thanks. pat in nc

I just finished reading "A Checkered Life" by John A Joyce, 1883. It is quite interesting and includes several chapters on his experiences in the 24th Ky Infantry regiment of the Union Army in the Civil War, in which many Bath county men enlisted. I recommend it if you have ancestors in this regiment. It might be hard to find, but you can probably get it through interlibrary loan. I was able to take it out of the Univ of North Carolina library. pat in nc

Ray, Can you tell me more about YOUR Alvin. I have an Alvin Cassity who was my Great Great Grandfather from Bath county. He married Mary Ellen Unknown. Alvin was born about 1818 and died abt. March 1888. This is NOT your Alvin, but I bet they are related??? Johnny Mack Souder souderj@mindspring.com ICQ #17300362 _________________ Souder/ Bennett/ Wainscott/ Wright/ Richardson Clifton/ Scudder/ Lancaster (Owen & Madison Co., Ky) _________________ McKinney/ Bailey/ Cassity/ Williams/ Wilson/ Owen/ Archer Hasty/ Carter/ Chastain/ Gill/ Murdock/ Richards/ Grant/ Ammon (Rowan, Bath, Morgan, Montgomery, Lincoln, & Clark Co.'s.) _________________ ..."I shall be telling this with a sigh somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference" Robert Frost ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray George" <rgeorge@cox-internet.com> To: <KYBATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: [KYBATH] Roll Call --- CASSITY > Howdy! > > I would appreciate any assistance in locating a CASSITY family tie to my gggfather, Alvin B. CASSITY; b. 11 Feb. 1826 in Owingsville, KY. I have not been successful in locating any family relations in Bath County or even from Bath County who are his kin. Records seem to indicate that after the Mexican War & his service in the military, he left Kentucky for Missouri. He married Sarah Ann Cantrell & they lived in Bates County, Missouri until after the Civil War. Later, they moved on to Texas where they lived out their lives. > > Surely someone has a CASSITY family with a missing son. Any clues would be most helpful. > > Happy Trails! > Ray George > in Texas >

I just finished reading "A Checkered Life" by John A Joyce, 1883. It is quite interesting and includes several chapters on his experiences in the 24th Ky Infantry regiment of the Union Army in the Civil War, in which many Bath county men enlisted. I recommend it if you have ancestors in this regiment. It might be hard to find, but you can probably get it through interlibrary loan. I was able to take it out of the Univ of North Carolina library. pat in nc

My Bath Co. families (other counties also, mostly Scott, Franklin, Mercer) HEAD BOYD DOWNIE NORRIS MAGRILL CLAYTON Richard Boyd and wife, I believe to be Mary Downie Bath Co. 1820 census: Richard Boyd Males: 2 0-9 1 10-15 1 26-44 Females: 2 0-9 1 10-15 1 16-25 1 45&up Order Bk A: 1820 Rich’d Boyd ordered Andrew Cartmill be permitted to turn the Prickly Ash Road from Richard Boyd’s lower line and to ...... 1820 May George B. Jamison Surveyor-Road 1821 Feb Spencer Boyd- Richard Boyd mentioned Re: Road "Richard Boyd dies in Bath Co. in 1825 and wills his land to son George and wife Mary and 'other children,' whom he does not list. Jasper Clayton gives security for the will, and Mary and son George are named executors There is a Richard who marries Polly Downie in Bourbon County about 1800, -that might be the Bath Co., Richard. Richard shows up in the Montgomery County 1800 census. He’s listed in the 1811 Bath County tax list as owning 100 Acres on Prickly Ash. He still owns the 100 acres on Prickly Ash in the 1823 tax list, and he buys more land on Prickly Ash in 1824 (Deed book D). He’s in the Bath County 1810 and 1820 censuses. Spencer the older makes Richard his attorney in 1816 because Spencer seems to be leaving town for a while and he wants Richard to collect his wages for militia work. Drury Birge is a witness: this would be DB I, I think because DB II wouldn't be old enough probably."

Looking for RAMEY CASSITY/CASSIDY PHELPS Others that I can't remember just now. Thanks Carolyn csramey@aol.com

Hello -- I haven't posted to the list recently but I'm still here... My Bath Co. names: PERGRAM/PERGREM DENNIS HOVERMALE CARRINGTON LANE STEPHENS CROUCH PENDLETON and others I can't remember off the top of my head. Thanks! --Ken Pergrem krp@attbi.com Fremont, California

Howdy! I would appreciate any assistance in locating a CASSITY family tie to my gggfather, Alvin B. CASSITY; b. 11 Feb. 1826 in Owingsville, KY. I have not been successful in locating any family relations in Bath County or even from Bath County who are his kin. Records seem to indicate that after the Mexican War & his service in the military, he left Kentucky for Missouri. He married Sarah Ann Cantrell & they lived in Bates County, Missouri until after the Civil War. Later, they moved on to Texas where they lived out their lives. Surely someone has a CASSITY family with a missing son. Any clues would be most helpful. Happy Trails! Ray George in Texas