In a message dated 6/24/00 4:39:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Fw: [KYBATH] Now just one more thought Date: 6/24/00 4:39:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Walter Blevins) To: [email protected] Lena, all I asked for was information on Ed and Lena McCarty and you wanted my entire family. A friend still yet... >> Don't correct me.....I know I called him Jim. That is because he called me Lena......LOL

In a message dated 6/24/00 4:39:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Fw: [KYBATH] Now just one more thought Date: 6/24/00 4:39:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Walter Blevins) To: [email protected] Lena, all I asked for was information on Ed and Lena McCarty and you wanted my entire family. A friend still yet... >> Jim, I think this was sent to me by mistake. I didn't ask you for anything yet.....LOL I might tho so get ready. Who is this Ed and Lena you are so interested in anyway? Are they family? Where are they from?

In a message dated 6/24/00 4:25:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYBATH] Charles EDEN Date: 6/24/00 4:25:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (jp55) To: [email protected] Can anyone in Bath Co. tell me where Charles T. EDEN is buried -he died 7 Dec. 1918. Thanks. Jackie >> Jackie, Did you get the Death Certificate? Just wondering because I also know sometimes they don't take the time to add that to the DC. Just Curious.

In a message dated 6/24/00 4:15:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYBATH] Turner - Eden Date: 6/24/00 4:15:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (jp55) To: [email protected] Rachel EDEN married John Turner in Bath Co. in 1854. They had at least one child - Edgar, born 1855. Would like to know when/where they died and are buried and contact any descendants. Thanks. Jackie >> Jackie, In the 1860 Bath Co. KY Census we have: John Turner age 30 KY Rachel 26 Benjamine 1 Susan 1 month I hope this helps you some. Vivian

In a message dated 6/24/00 4:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Re: [KYBATH] Burk Date: 6/24/00 4:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Roxanne) To: [email protected] es..I have several cousins on the Bath and Fleming list..in fact one cousin is the Fleming listmaster so we have all posted for Sarah's info..you are correct in that this info fits her approx. age..although her marriage certificate says she was 37 or so when she married Stewart..and if that was her true age, then she would have been older in that Fleming census..I will send you the marriage cert. to look at..it is in an e-mail that I have from another researcher.. Thanks for looking for all this info to help people on the list..that is what genealogy is all about..giving and receiving! God Bless You.. Roxanne >> Roxanne, The census books are transcribed and mistakes are made a lot due to poor handwriting and just plain errors. If you already have people who are looking and especially if one cousin is the Fleming County List owner then they must have seen the 1850 Fleming Co. KY Census. Don't get hung up on dates tho. I have a GGGrandmother whos age is one thing in the census book, one on her death certificate and another on her grave marker. Go figure? Good Luck tho.......Its always fun when someone makes a Contact. Blessings! Vivian

In a message dated 6/24/00 3:49:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Re: [KYBATH] Burk Date: 6/24/00 3:49:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Roxanne) To: [email protected] Vivian.. My cousins and I have no idea who Sarah's parents were..all we know is that she married Stewart Vanlandingham in July of 1863..The Sarah that you found could be her, or maybe not..there are several of my cousins on this list, and one has the money and time to pursue leads that I cannot..hope they see this info and try to follow up on it.. Thanks for looking.. Roxanne >> If they are on the list they will see it huh? Do you post to the Fleming Co List too? If so, perhaps someone there will know. I hope it is.....its the only one there that fits so its very suspect. Vivian

Rebecca Noticed you have the Crouch surname listed for Bath Co. Do you happen to descend from Thomas Crouch, m. Melvina Rice, 2 Apr 1843 in Bath Co.? Carter Versailles, KY "R.A. Powers" wrote: > Thanks, Vivian, for waking us up again! Still searching for information of > the siblings and parents of my mysterious 3G-grandparents Jeremiah Power and > Leah McCarty, married in Bath Co. 11 Sep 1823. This has been our family's > brick wall for over 15 years! Leah may have been the daughter of an > Elizabeth McCarty who married William Costigan in Bath Co. , 1811, since > Leah's last name is listed as "McCarty" written above a crossed out > "Costigan". > > Other Bath Co. surnames are Bashaw, Carter, Conner (family of Harrison > Conner), Crouch, Myers, Maupin, Pergrem, Griffith, Sudduth, and Warren. > > Though I'd love to help everyone with look ups during my visit to > Owingsville next weekend, we will only be there for a few hours to visit > cemeteries if weather permits, with a possible short side trip to the > courthouse and library if they are open so it won't be possible to help > everyone (by the way, I already have a couple of look up requests which I'll > honor if possible). Thanks for understanding! > :-) > Rebecca Powers

In a message dated 6/24/00 3:28:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: RE: [KYBATH] School Records Date: 6/24/00 3:28:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Jim Sorrell) To: [email protected], [email protected] Bath County school census records dating back to the early 1900s can be found at the Kentucky department of Archives in Frankfort. In these records you will find the child's name, full birthdate and parents or guardians. Jim Sorrell 753 Anthony Lane Mason, Warren, Ohio 45040-1145 (513)398-6800 [email protected] >> Thanks Jim, For those who are new to the List..........he is the "Big Kahuna".

In a message dated 6/24/00 3:13:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Re: [KYBATH] School Records Date: 6/24/00 3:13:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (lcombs) To: [email protected] [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 6/24/00 2:05:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << Subj: [KYBATH] School Records > Date: 6/24/00 2:05:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: [email protected] (Robert Rogers) > To: [email protected] > > Thanks Vivian, you got us out of our rut and thinking again. > > I read the other day that school records are a good source of information. > Are there any school records for Bath County from back in the 1870's? If so, > where? > > T. K. Rogers > > > >> > Great Question!! > I wonder where all those old records might be lkept anyway? I don't believe the school records go back that far. The Kentucky Legislature enacted a law requiring a school census. I believe the date was in the 1880's and the law was recinded in 1890's but I am not sure of the exact years. does anyone know when the law was enacted and recinded? Carter Versailles, KY >> Any one care to tackle this one? I am sorry I don't have the answer.

I'm still alive and online!! Kathy >> Hey Kathy! Good to hear from you.......... Jump right in the discussion. I sure hope everyone is getting at least one little bit of information. I have tried to look for something for everyone who has joined in. I am limited tho to the older records....not a lot after 1850. Do have 1900 Wolf and Menifee Co. Census if needed....One per person tho please.....LOL

In a message dated 6/24/00 2:40:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << According to my first cousin, Roger who is the only person who has actually NAMED a person for Elbert Walker's second wife.... he seems to think it is PRATT.... but who knows..... here is what we do know... Lula was born about 1880. She married E. W. McKinney about 1905 in Kentucky... probably near Rowan or Bath counties. She died the 12th of April 1907. I have no other information and have found nothing at the Rowan County Courthouse?? Johnny Mack >> Wonder why it is so ahrd to research in Rowan Co. I have 1860 and 1880 census and a few fragmented marriage lic. and they aren't indexed. I also have vol 1 & 2 of "Smoke in the Woods" by Fred Brown and not a lot more. I sure wish someone would get moving and help with Rowan Co. KY Research. Hint.....Hint!!

In a message dated 6/24/00 2:31:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Hi Pat... well, well.... I too am a descendent of these folks.... Both Maria and Maranda married HASTY's according to you.... namely John and Murdock which I have in my database. The Father of John and Murdock is JOHN HASTY and REBECCA MURDOCK. John and Rebecca also had another child, NANCY HASTY and of course Nancy was a sister to John and Murdock. Nancy HASTY married Joseph Gill WILLIAMS. Nancy HASTY and Joseph G. WILLIAMS had a child named Nancy Cordelia Harrison WILLIAMS... my Great Grandmother. Nancy Cordelia H. Williams married JOSEPH REYNOLDS MCKINNEY and both were early Doctors of Medicine in Bath county. They are in the Morehead Centennial newspaper with pictures of each. The lived in the eastern part of Bath county around Clay Lick, Licking Union and Zilpo areas. Licking Union is now under the Cave Run Lake as you know. Joseph Reynolds McKinney and Nancy Cordelia H. Williams has a son named Elbert Walker McKinney. Elbert Walker McKinney was my Grandfather. He married three times. His last wife, Amy Lee BAILEY was my Grandmother. My mother, Mary A. McKinney grew up in Morehead as did I. You said you are a direct descendant of JOHN HASTY and Maria HICKLIN. sooooo..... JOHN HASTY is the second Great Grand UNCLE of me, Johnny Mack Souder... our common ancestor is JOHN HASTY...!! Can I get a GEDCOM from you on the Hicklin line.... would you like any of the info I have on the HASTY's or do you have it already...?? Johnny Mack Souder [email protected] ICQ #17300362 >> Is this terriffic or what???? I have only taken timd to "Feed and Water" my hubby all day and am still waiting for something I can chew on for myself......LOL Bless everyone who are contributing and Shame on those who I know are still silently sitting by. Wanna have fun? Just jump right in.

In a message dated 6/24/00 2:15:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Re: [KYBATH] Re; List Date: 6/24/00 2:15:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Ruby Elrod) To: [email protected] Leave it to Vivian to get the ball rolling on this list again. It really has been dead lately. I'll put in my two cents worth. Phebe Turner bn August 21, 1798 in KY (don't know which county) but married John Spencer in Bath Co. on Aug 25, 1814, and died June 18, 1851. Does anyone know who her parents and siblings were? Ruby >> Thanks Ruby, You are a dear!! I will never forget your kindness to me with my genealogy in the days of Snail mail. Hugs! Vivian

In a message dated 6/24/00 2:07:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Re: [KYBATH] Has everyone found all their ancestors?? Is this the reason everythng dired up? Date: 6/24/00 2:07:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Hi Vivian, Yes it is time to get back to Bath CO. research. My grandfather, Lewis Johnson Barber (1 OCt 1849 Flemingsberg, Flleming Co. - died 1 July 1938 Saltlick, Bath Co.) had 3 wifes. The first was Mary Fenwyck (spelled Fendwick on death cert. of daughter Louvenia) She was born - Mary, 1853 and died about 1880-1887 in Bath Co. They had 3 children ? - Was given the name of Jack born 1865-1932 however I have never been able to find anything on him, 2nd child Louvenia D. born 17 april 1870 - 16 april 1957 Saltlick, bath co. married Lander Jack Rice. the 3rd child Virginia Morton 17 aug. 1873 - 20 May 1905. She married Edward Staton. What I have been looking for is any information on Mary's parents, siblings where they came from etc. I am also trying to find information on Lewis Johnson Barber's 3rd wife: Lila Teal, b 9 Feb 1872 Ky? - d? . Married 4 Feb 1916 at the house of Jack Rice and that Jack Rice and Ida Bell Rice were present and witnessed celebration. Have copy of marriage Cert. Marriage Cert Bk. 7 pag 228. Ida Bell was daughter of Jack and not his wife. I'm sure that Teal was not Lila's maiden name but have no other information on her. Family, siblings etc. any help on finding information on these 2 people of any of their relatives would greatly be appreciated. Nancy Barber McNatt >> Nancy, First I checked the 1850 Fleming Co. Census and your Lewis Barber b. 1849 was the son of George Barber age 29 and Sarah ??? age 33 They also ahd another child named Lousiana age 3 And I think I found yor LILA TEAL TOO! In the 1870 Bath Co. KY Census we have the following family: Obidiah TEAL age 37 KY Minerva 36 George Ann 14 Samuel 12 Mary 10 Matilda 8 Joshua 6 DELILA 4 Mariah 2 I know the date isoff from your post but...we all know about dates. Hope this helps! Vivian

Thanks, Vivian, for waking us up again! Still searching for information of the siblings and parents of my mysterious 3G-grandparents Jeremiah Power and Leah McCarty, married in Bath Co. 11 Sep 1823. This has been our family's brick wall for over 15 years! Leah may have been the daughter of an Elizabeth McCarty who married William Costigan in Bath Co. , 1811, since Leah's last name is listed as "McCarty" written above a crossed out "Costigan". Other Bath Co. surnames are Bashaw, Carter, Conner (family of Harrison Conner), Crouch, Myers, Maupin, Pergrem, Griffith, Sudduth, and Warren. Though I'd love to help everyone with look ups during my visit to Owingsville next weekend, we will only be there for a few hours to visit cemeteries if weather permits, with a possible short side trip to the courthouse and library if they are open so it won't be possible to help everyone (by the way, I already have a couple of look up requests which I'll honor if possible). Thanks for understanding! :-) Rebecca Powers

--part1_bc.6ee9019.26865baa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/24/00 2:43:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, VMcca43559 writes: << Subj: Re: [KYBATH] Hicklin Date: 6/24/00 2:43:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: VMcca43559 To: Pmh52847 In a message dated 6/24/00 2:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYBATH] Hicklin Date: 6/24/00 2:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] To: [email protected] While in Bath County I copied the Will of Hugh Hicklin, who died in 1811. His is the first Will filed in Bath County. If memory serves me correctly, he was not a resident there, but in one of the surrounding counties. I'll have to get the Will out and look again. Hugh Hicklin was born ca 1725 in Augusta County, VA, was married to Elizabeth?. He is also a son of Thomas Hicklin. I have his children listed as per his Will. My memory is not the best, but I do believe I remember a grandson, Charles, mentioned in this Will. As far as I know, I am not "directly" linked to the Hicklins by blood. But......My third greatgrandparents David M. and Nancy Ann McDonald Cartmill named their youngest son Hugh Hicklin Cartmill. Which didn't make any sense at all at first. After a few years of researching and lots of help from other McDonald researchers, I believe the answer to be: Hugh Hicklin was first married to Martha? and secondly to Sarah Hicklin, who could possibly be the d/o Hugh and Elizabeth. So I believe Nancy Ann named her son after her stepmother's father. (Lord, it's confusing, isn't it?) I also have a big question about David Cartmill's land settlement which lists one of the heirs as Sally Hicklin Cartmill. So evidently, I am missing a son, somewhere. These people can all be found in Bath/Augusta, VA together and then later on in Kentucky in close proximity to each other. The Cartmills, McDonalds, Hicklins and a guzzilion more. It makes my head hurt to think about getting them all unraveled. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. I've been waiting for years for anyone to step forward with the right answers. Paula >> Paula, Just a suggestion and I know it will entail some work but....Its well worth it. Why don't you do the Hugh Hicklin will and post it here .....then post it to The Bath Co. Web page. This is what is needed. It has Hugh's childrens names and probably those of them that are married? Lots of times this is what ties us to the other piece of the Puzzle. If it were not for finding the lineage of the Former Attorney General of the US Richard "Dick" THORNBURG I would still be looking for my GGGGrandfathers parents and siblings. Try it and see what happens. Good Luck! >> --part1_bc.6ee9019.26865baa_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <[email protected]> From: [email protected] Full-name: VMcca43559 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:43:57 EDT Subject: Re: [KYBATH] Hicklin To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 109 In a message dated 6/24/00 2:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYBATH] Hicklin Date: 6/24/00 2:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] To: [email protected] While in Bath County I copied the Will of Hugh Hicklin, who died in 1811. His is the first Will filed in Bath County. If memory serves me correctly, he was not a resident there, but in one of the surrounding counties. I'll have to get the Will out and look again. Hugh Hicklin was born ca 1725 in Augusta County, VA, was married to Elizabeth?. He is also a son of Thomas Hicklin. I have his children listed as per his Will. My memory is not the best, but I do believe I remember a grandson, Charles, mentioned in this Will. As far as I know, I am not "directly" linked to the Hicklins by blood. But......My third greatgrandparents David M. and Nancy Ann McDonald Cartmill named their youngest son Hugh Hicklin Cartmill. Which didn't make any sense at all at first. After a few years of researching and lots of help from other McDonald researchers, I believe the answer to be: Hugh Hicklin was first married to Martha? and secondly to Sarah Hicklin, who could possibly be the d/o Hugh and Elizabeth. So I believe Nancy Ann named her son after her stepmother's father. (Lord, it's confusing, isn't it?) I also have a big question about David Cartmill's land settlement which lists one of the heirs as Sally Hicklin Cartmill. So evidently, I am missing a son, somewhere. These people can all be found in Bath/Augusta, VA together and then later on in Kentucky in close proximity to each other. The Cartmills, McDonalds, Hicklins and a guzzilion more. It makes my head hurt to think about getting them all unraveled. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. I've been waiting for years for anyone to step forward with the right answers. Paula >> Paula, Just a suggestion and I know it will entail some work but....Its well worth it. Why don't you do the Hugh Hicklin will and post it here .....then post it to The Bath Co. Web page. This is what is needed. It has Hugh's childrens names and probably those of them that are married? Lots of times this is what ties us to the other piece of the Puzzle. If it were not for finding the lineage of the Former Attorney General of the US Richard "Dick" THORNBURG I would still be looking for my GGGGrandfathers parents and siblings. Try it and see what happens. Good Luck! --part1_bc.6ee9019.26865baa_boundary--

In a message dated 6/24/00 2:05:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYBATH] School Records Date: 6/24/00 2:05:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Robert Rogers) To: [email protected] Thanks Vivian, you got us out of our rut and thinking again. I read the other day that school records are a good source of information. Are there any school records for Bath County from back in the 1870's? If so, where? T. K. Rogers >> Great Question!! I wonder where all those old records might be lkept anyway?

In a message dated 6/24/00 1:52:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYBATH] Margaret Johnson Date: 6/24/00 1:52:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Hello everyone, I am searching for the parents of Margaret Ann JOHNSON. She was born in Bath Co KY Feb.24,1811 and married Samuel HORNBECK on Sept 2, 1830 in Bath Co KY. They moved to Macon Co IL but I don't know when. A son was born in Macon Co in 1844. Thank you!! Sandy >> Sandy, They must have moved to Ill. very soon after they married. I don't see Samuel Hornbeck in the census again ever in Bath Co. KY.

In a message dated 6/24/00 1:50:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYBATH] Burk Date: 6/24/00 1:50:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Roxanne) To: [email protected] Still looking for great grandma..Sarah A. Burk married Stewart Vanlandingham in July of 1863..she disappears a few years later and hasn't been seen since! Roxanne Parks Garrett Klamath Falls, Oregon >> I am sure you know that Sarah A. Burk was the Daughter of Abram Burk who married Mary "Polly" Alexander in Fleming Co. KY on June 10, 1833. The family are in 1850 Bath Co. KY Census like this: Abram Burk 57 B. KY Mary 45 KY Nancy A. 16 Andrew J. 14 SARAH A. 11 George W. 8 Samuel 6 They seem to have left the area after the 1850 Census....Do you know where they moved to? Since they were in Fleming Co. whenn they married.....could they have gone back to Fleming Co? Vivian

In a message dated 6/24/00 1:27:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Elbert Walker McKINNEY and Lula E. PRATT Date: 6/24/00 1:27:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (J.S.) To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] (Larry Workman), [email protected] (Kathy Tabb), [email protected] (KYOWEN Owen Co. rootsweb), [email protected], [email protected] (Rowan Co. Kentucky Rootsweb), [email protected] (LaVanna Mckinney Nikkel), [email protected] (Susan L. McKinney), [email protected] (Danny & Loretta (Souder) Hawkins), [email protected] (Brenda Hall), [email protected] (Deborah Souder Fraley), [email protected] (Janet & Willie E. Ford), [email protected] (Jeffrey C. Bassett), [email protected] (Corey Bassett), [email protected] (Janet Alderman) Haaaa.... Ok... Vivian.... here's my new name...!! I'm looking for information on Lula or Loula E. Pratt who married Elbert Walker McKinney about 1905 in Kentucky. It was most likely BATH county but could one of the surrounding counties. Lula died of TB on 12 April 1907. My Grandfather, Elbert Walker MCKINNEY married her eventhough he knew she has TB and would die soon. They had no children.... Can someone help?? Johnny Mack Souder >> Johnny, What would be the approximate date of Birth for these 2 and is the name also sometimes spelled PIERATT?? pronounced PRATT? These names will fool you sometimes. Thanks for putting that out there...lets see what you catch now? Vivian