In a message dated 6/25/00 4:52:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ScGar656 writes: << Subj: unsubscribe Date: 6/25/00 4:52:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: ScGar656 To: VMcca43559 Please unsubscribe me from the Bath list >>

Hi, My name is Barbara Cowan. Is there anyone one the list looking for the BARNES family??? My ggg grandmother was Matilda Barnes born ca 1816 married THOMAS JEFFERSON ATCHISON 1 Sept 1834 in Bath Co. No for sure but I think her parents were WM BARNES & SARAH MCCLELLAN. If that is true then her siblings would be: Amelia Md Wm Razor Matilda Md Atchison Elizabeth md Razor James G George Eliza md Perry Martha A Alvira md a Barnes Moses md a Gill Thomas Atchison & Matilda had issue: Jenetta born 1837 Sarah born 1838 Elizabeth born 1839 Margaret Teresa (my line) born 27 Dec 1841 md James Rigdon William J born 1845 Jenima born 1851 John If anyone is tracing these lines I would lvoe to hear from you. Barbara

Fellow Listers: I agree about the lack of care shown the old documents at the court house. I just spoke with my cousin who does live in Bath Co. She feels it is a combination of several things --indifference, no training on the part of court house clerk's staff in proper preservation and MONEY. She recommended we write a "group email" to Carol Belcher, the state representative for the county and express our concerns about the condition of historical documents and the lack of proper preservation attempts. She also mentioned that the LDS church came into Bath county many years ago to film the then existing records and were allowed to do so. The church then gave complimentary copies of all that they had filmed to the clerk and that these films were simply thrown away - for whatever reason! So, I suggest that we, as a group, lobby the appropriate political entities to save the records of Bath county! Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [KYBATH] OLD DOCUMENTS IN BOXES > In a message dated 6/25/00 2:12:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << Subj: [KYBATH] OLD DOCUMENTS IN BOXES > Date: 6/25/00 2:12:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: [email protected] (Janice Chastain Lund) > To: [email protected] > > Is there no one living locally who could help preserve these old documents > mentioned below? If they don't, future generations will have nothing to > search....just wondering...Jan Lund > > > >I wish I could get a copy of that will for you in Bath County > >but..............When I get to go there I am so selfish I spend all that > time > >looking for myself. Imagine that!! > >It is a waste of time to ask those people to copy documents for you. They > >are just very indifferent to the whole idea of Genealogy. > >They are very generous with letting you stay and search to your hearts > >content............I even climbed their ladder and got old boxes of > >fragmented papers from the ceiling shelf.. and no one cared. > >If you can go there at all do so. One day the old documents will be gone I > >fear. I think that is what ahs happened to many of them already. > > > > > >> > It would be nice but its a political thing too. I remember seeing some people > who were supposed to be getting ready to photocopy the records [they told me] > if the funds were allocated. > Some of the court houses have the old records laminated...one page at a time > but, thats probably very costly and time consuming. > Wish I lived there .....I would do a lot more to staighten the records and > "Smack hands" LOL > Blessings! > Vivian >

Paula, I received this at my email address, but I think it is meant for you. Alice Ramsay In a message dated 6/25/00 3:27:58 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I have a Martha Cartmill married to a Nelson Rice. 25 April 1813 Bath > County. Ky > I dont have much of any thing > that is about it. Wish I could be more of help to you > How ever there is a Earliene Kalein who is from this family > It is hard to get anything from her as I didnt have much luck > her address is [email protected] > She live up around Tacoma Washing ton > she was more interested in the Yarbourgh > you might give her a try > > Keith Cunday > [email protected] > Diamond Bar, > Sunny CA..

> -----Original Message----- > From: J Leon Vanlandingham [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 12:45 PM > To: [email protected]; Garrett Roxanne > Subject: {not a subscriber} Sarah Burk > > > The problem with Abram's daughter Sarah being the Sarah who > married Stewart Vanlandingham is the different in dates of birth. > Stewart's wife Sarah, from the 1860 and 1870 census records, was > born about 1835, and Abram's daughter, according to the 1850 > census record, was born about 1839. Maybe Abram and the Andrew > who signed Sarah and Stewart's marriage certificate were brothers > and both had daughters named Sarah, maybe named after their > mother. Pretty common practice in the 1800's. > > J. Leon Vanlandingham >

Is there no one living locally who could help preserve these old documents mentioned below? If they don't, future generations will have nothing to search....just wondering...Jan Lund >I wish I could get a copy of that will for you in Bath County >but..............When I get to go there I am so selfish I spend all that time >looking for myself. Imagine that!! >It is a waste of time to ask those people to copy documents for you. They >are just very indifferent to the whole idea of Genealogy. >They are very generous with letting you stay and search to your hearts >content............I even climbed their ladder and got old boxes of >fragmented papers from the ceiling shelf.. and no one cared. >If you can go there at all do so. One day the old documents will be gone I >fear. I think that is what ahs happened to many of them already. > >

I am Joann Ginter Holland and I am very excited about this site, since most of my roots travel through Bath County. Some briefly and some for long periods of time. Lines I am searching include: Chandler, Ginter, Highley, Crouch, Donaldson, Shultz, Morris, Craycraft, Hatton,Thompson, Markland, Parks, and Oakley. Other Kentucky names I am researching are: Holbrook, Caudill, Jobe, Cooksey, Webb, Boone, Sturgill, and Young. I can use any and all help available. I am not interested in the Holland name, it belongs to my X. Thank you in advance for any help you can offer. Joann

Hello Bath County Researchers, I'm still looking for info regarding my 3'rd gr grandparents. Thomas ADAMS marr. Catherine WATSON 1794 in Bourbon County, Ky. They later lived in Bath County where some of thier 11 children were born. I have a marr document from Nicholas County where a son Wm. Watson ADAMS was marr. 1833 to Catherine MANING. Thomas ADAMS signed an attachment to the marr application. It seems Catherine (WATSON) ADAMS was living with her son James ADAMS 1850 in Switzerland County, In. This leads me to believe Thomas died between 1833 & 1850 probably in Bath County. Thomas & Catherine had 11 children, some born in Bath County. I believe both Thomas & Catherine were born in Md. but after 16 years of searching I haven't yet confirmed that. It seems Thomas was probably an orphan because a Ralph ADAMS, (don't know if he was related), signed the marr. bond as being the guardian for Thomas. I would like to hear from anyone having data regarding any of these ADAMS or WATSON people. Thanks in advance for your help. Ed Jones New Palestine, In.

In a message dated 6/25/00 4:18:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Re: [KYBATH] I was asked to introduce myself and my surnames Date: 6/25/00 4:18:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Joann Holland) Reply-to: [email protected] (Joann Holland) To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] Vivan; I two families that are just driving me crazy right now. 1. My Morris Line: Joseph Morris b. 1861 (I am guessing in Bath County) and died 5 May 1931. married: Lizzie Hatton b. 13 May 1862 in Bath. d. 26 May 1933. They are both buried at Kendall Springs. William Morris b. 1825 and m. Marry. His father may have been Joseph Morris b. 1791. All of these 3 families lived in Bath county and Joseph was on the Bath County Census 1830. 2. My Chandler Line: My Grandfather: Robert Charles Chandler b. 18 Feb 1911 Mt. Sterling, d. 28 Mar 1988 in Kokomo,IN m. Grace Garnett Wright 15 Jun 1929 in Bath. His Parents: John Alvin Chandler b. 4 Apr 1882 Owingsville, d. 7 Oct 1959 Mt. Sterling, m. Nora Ellen Highley 31 Aug 1902 in Maysville,KY. John's Parents: James B. Chandler b. 16 Jun 1857 in Bath., d. 30 Nov 1933 in Mt. Sterling, m. Rebecca Crouch 4 Oct 1877 in Bath. James' father: Alvin Chandler 1831/2 in Va., m. Eliza Collins abt. 1856 in Nicholas Co.,KY. That is just a start. Joann >> I am going to give you this one first. William Morris married Mary Switzer 10 April. 1846 and here is the family. It is from the 1860 Bath co. KY census [which by the way is online at the Bath Co. KY web site FYI] # 1696 William Morris 36 KY Mary 37 [nee Switzer m. 10 April, 1846] Bath Co Sarah 12 James 11 Allace 8 Daniel 5 Patsy 3 Elizabeth MORRIS 63 KY 1870 Bath co. Census William Morris 45 Mary 51 Ewing 20 Jane 18 Daniel 16 martha 13 Joseph 9 Henrietta 7 Yu cansee the difference in the children and she might have had some more after this but at age 51 maybe not. Anyone else who can help her just jum right in and do so...I Gotta run now and get ready for church. Hope you have fun with your search. Blessings! Vivian

Has anyone done the research on these and other Bath Co. families in the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia. Can anyone enlighten me on where the "Calfpasture" was located in Virginia? Vickie from Calif.

Dear Paula, Thank you so much for your kind offer to get a copy of that will for me! :-) Here's the info I have; it's a copy of a copy of a copy of someone's notes. D.Bath Co. KY Will Bk.A, p. 366-ARCHIBALD RAMSAY of Bath Co.-sick and weak in body-everything left to wife, KITTY RAMSAY-appoints as exxecutors,friends Genl. Thomas Fletcher, Col. Matthew Mauray, and Peter Davis Esqr.-25 Sept. 1823-Archibald (his mark)X Ramsay(seal)-(witnesses)William M. Sudduth, Charles Cooper, John W. Hood and James Robins-proven Oct. Crt. 1823 by oaths of Sudduth, Cooper and Hood-the 3 executors and Sudduth and Andrew Gudgell entered into bond. Thank you again, and if you ever need anything done in DuPage Co., IL, let me know. Alice J. Ramsay Lombard, IL USA [ "How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?" ] In a message dated 6/25/00 2:46:00 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > The next time I go to Bath I will copy the Will of Archibald Ramsay and have > a look myself. I have recent evidence that we have completely missed a > daughter of Thomas and Mary Warwick Cartmill. Margaret, who married Robert > Ramsay. We had the marriage for them but couldn't place her in any family. A > lady just got in touch with me who has a record that Thomas Cartmill signed > for his daughter to marry Robert Ramsay. > Thanks, > Paula

Gee! Guess I better be good to myself now, I just realized I haven't gotten even a "Nibble" after over a hundred emails to the list. I kept thinking someone would lay a big HIT on me but it didn't Happen so here is what I need. I want someone to tell me about HANNAH ? b. ca. 1786 SC [according to the 1850 census] who married among others....Augustine McCarty who died in 1820 in Bath Co. KY and Hannah is on the 1820 Census as head of household. In 1830 the Head of house hold is JOHN NORRIS and rightfully so since he and Hannah married 30 Dec., 1829. They are together in 1850 Census and then "Poof" they are gone. Where did they go? When did they die? Where are they buried? Hannah had lots of kids....some McClains and some McCarty's. Are all the kids legitimate? I try to put everyone together in a nice tight marriage situation and I know better than that. I have some of my ancestors from Morgan County who were never married.....of course I know the Bath Countians didn't act like that. However, the answer to this 25 year old mystery would please me very much..........Since Joanne has promised to meet me half way and buy me a steak dinner if we find Hannah....that makes the find a lot sweeter. Now.......Plese do not run off to Rootsweb or FTM or LDS and come back with a contrived name for Hannah...its been tried before......LOL My other surnames from Bath County are: McCullough/McCulley, Basford, Thornburg, Wills, Norris, Rogers, McClain, McCarty, McKenzie,ETAL. As you can see I have a little Scotch/Irish to deal with. I have most of my line on Thornburg other than collateral lines......I really need the old McCulley's [imagine naming a "Hollar or Branch" after a McCulley and no McCulleys there??] There is one in Bath County KY. And the Old Basfords. I am told my John Basford b. ca. 1770 VA married Elizabeth Norris b. ca. 1792 in Mason Co. KY???? I have a few of their children I think. Isaac. b. ca. 1810 m. Mariner McCarty d/o Hannah James b. ca. 1820 m. Mahala McCulley Andrew Jackson "Jack" b. ca. 1824 m. Lucy Ensign Mary A. b. ca. 1830 m. Isaac Reid/Reed Martha A. b. ca. 1832 Now it seems there are too many gaps here so I think there are lots more kids running around. Anyone care to speculate? The McCulley s? On Mahala McCulley Basfords Death Certificate it states she is the daughter of Samuel McCulley..She may be. It states she was born in Pendleton Co. KY.....Maybe so. I am unable to tie any Samuel McCulley to her but someone in the family named a son Samuel Basford? [I do pay attention to the names of the children] I believe that Elizabeth McCulley who married Elisha/Elijah Sorrell 7 Jan. 1840 is related to my Mahala McCulley.b. ca 1842 I am sure there were more McCulley children too. As you can tell I really need help and have been on this list since its inception and no help...... Please let me and the list know if you have something to add to what I have told you. I ahve a list of marriages that I cannot connect to because of the idea Mahala might be the Daughter of Samuel McCulley. Peter McCullough m. Louvina Meris? 17 July 1811 Bath John McCulla m. Sally Staton 17 June 1813 Bath Samuel McCullock m. Elizabeth Mitchell 3 Mch.1797 Elizabeth McCulla m. Elisha Sorrell 7 Jan. 1840 Bath Mary "Polly" McCulla m. Samuel Staton 1830 Elizabeth "Betsy" McCulla m. Wm. R. Sorrell 5-15-1845 Bath Co. Talk to me Pleeeease! Blessings! Vivian

Dear Paula, I'm sorry I don't know anything personally about that marriage. But I do find an email in my stuff of a query from a Jan Kelley ([email protected]) and it sounds like the same family (a Robert Ramsay married a Margaret Cartmill). Have you been in contact with her? Other than that, I have no information on him. I suppose he may turn out to be related to my family, but I have no data on that right now. Good luck and take care. Alice J. Ramsay Lombard, IL USA [ "How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?" ] In a message dated 6/25/00 6:18:27 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Do you know ANYTHING about Robert Ramsay who married Margaret Cartmill > around 1795 in the Montgomery/Bath area? > Paula

In a message dated 6/25/00 3:30:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYBATH] STATON MCCLAIN MCCARTY WILLIAMSON FIELDER EPPERSON GRIFFIN Date: 6/25/00 3:30:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] To: [email protected] All these names and all these families--- isn't anyone researching the above names? [Except Vivian and Jim] I am also looking for info on the sisters of Francis McClain [she married Andrew J. McCarty] and their descendants---KARRICK INGRAM ROBINSON ROBERSON AND NORRIS, mostly all families in Salt Lick area. >> Jo, I found I do have a Griffin/Griffith after all. One of my Hiatts.....Elizabeth "Betsy" who was a daughter of my William Hiatt b. ca. 1777 PA and Elizabeth THATCHER Hiatt...........married Jesse Griffith/Griffin 21 August, 1821 Greenup Co. KY. Any relation to you? I sure hope so,,,,,,,I am tired looking for them. Now you know where the name THATCHER HIATT came from? Better pay attention to those kids names of old. They are trying to tell you something. Good to hear from you. Hugs!

All these names and all these families--- isn't anyone researching the above names? [Except Vivian and Jim] I am also looking for info on the sisters of Francis McClain [she married Andrew J. McCarty] and their descendants---KARRICK INGRAM ROBINSON ROBERSON AND NORRIS, mostly all families in Salt Lick area.

In a message dated 6/25/00 2:58:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << rom: [email protected] To: [email protected] Hello, My name is Bill Scroggin. I live in Chesterfield, Missouri. I am researching the following families/individuals who have connections to Bath County: England, Cantrell, and Graham. Specifically, I am looking for information on my 6g-grandparents, Joshua Cantrell and Ann Graham, who both died in Bath County, 1860 and 1819 respectively. I was hoping to find their final resting place. Also, I am interested in my 7g-grandparents, David England and Lucy Hodges, who both died near Owingsville in 1801 and 1809 respectively. I would be very happy to share information with those who are also researching thes Bath County families. Thank you. Bill Scroggin >> Hi Bill, I checked with the 1820-30-40-50-60-70 Bath Co. KY Census and I believe there might be a mistake for the Cantrell's in Bath co. The only Cantrell I found was Zebulon and he was in both 1820 and 1830 and gone by 1840. He was age 30-40 in 1820 so it is entirely possible for him to be your Joshua Cantrells father or Brother? Where else could they be. I even checked the Marriages and did find a couple of Cantrell Marriages but none that fit yours. I checked Montgomery , Morgan and Fleming Co 1850 census as well. Sorry! Maybe someone else has something. Vivian

In a message dated 6/25/00 2:12:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYBATH] OLD DOCUMENTS IN BOXES Date: 6/25/00 2:12:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Janice Chastain Lund) To: [email protected] Is there no one living locally who could help preserve these old documents mentioned below? If they don't, future generations will have nothing to search....just wondering...Jan Lund >I wish I could get a copy of that will for you in Bath County >but..............When I get to go there I am so selfish I spend all that time >looking for myself. Imagine that!! >It is a waste of time to ask those people to copy documents for you. They >are just very indifferent to the whole idea of Genealogy. >They are very generous with letting you stay and search to your hearts >content............I even climbed their ladder and got old boxes of >fragmented papers from the ceiling shelf.. and no one cared. >If you can go there at all do so. One day the old documents will be gone I >fear. I think that is what ahs happened to many of them already. > > >> It would be nice but its a political thing too. I remember seeing some people who were supposed to be getting ready to photocopy the records [they told me] if the funds were allocated. Some of the court houses have the old records laminated...one page at a time but, thats probably very costly and time consuming. Wish I lived there .....I would do a lot more to staighten the records and "Smack hands" LOL Blessings! Vivian

Hello, My name is Bill Scroggin. I live in Chesterfield, Missouri. I am researching the following families/individuals who have connections to Bath County: England, Cantrell, and Graham. Specifically, I am looking for information on my 6g-grandparents, Joshua Cantrell and Ann Graham, who both died in Bath County, 1860 and 1819 respectively. I was hoping to find their final resting place. Also, I am interested in my 7g-grandparents, David England and Lucy Hodges, who both died near Owingsville in 1801 and 1809 respectively. I would be very happy to share information with those who are also researching thes Bath County families. Thank you. Bill Scroggin

In a message dated 6/25/00 1:57:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYBATH] I was asked to introduce myself and my surnames Date: 6/25/00 1:57:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Joann Holland) Reply-to: [email protected] (Joann Holland) To: [email protected] I am Joann Ginter Holland and I am very excited about this site, since most of my roots travel through Bath County. Some briefly and some for long periods of time. Lines I am searching include: Chandler, Ginter, Highley, Crouch, Donaldson, Shultz, Morris, Craycraft, Hatton,Thompson, Markland, Parks, and Oakley. Other Kentucky names I am researching are: Holbrook, Caudill, Jobe, Cooksey, Webb, Boone, Sturgill, and Young. I can use any and all help available. I am not interested in the Holland name, it belongs to my X. Thank you in advance for any help you can offer. Joann >> Welcome aboard Joann, Shucks!! I was gonna whip out my Hollan/Hollands on you but I can put that folder away I guess? Please be more specific......All those names are winners here. Give us a family and approx date and see what happens....OK? Vivian

In a message dated 6/25/00 11:38:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYBATH] Search for Thomas ADAMS Bath County early 1800's Date: 6/25/00 11:38:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Edwin Jones) Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected] Hello Bath County Researchers, I'm still looking for info regarding my 3'rd gr grandparents. Thomas ADAMS marr. Catherine WATSON 1794 in Bourbon County, Ky. They later lived in Bath County where some of thier 11 children were born. I have a marr document from Nicholas County where a son Wm. Watson ADAMS was marr. 1833 to Catherine MANING. Thomas ADAMS signed an attachment to the marr application. It seems Catherine (WATSON) ADAMS was living with her son James ADAMS 1850 in Switzerland County, In. This leads me to believe Thomas died between 1833 & 1850 probably in Bath County. Thomas & Catherine had 11 children, some born in Bath County. I believe both Thomas & Catherine were born in Md. but after 16 years of searching I haven't yet confirmed that. It seems Thomas was probably an orphan because a Ralph ADAMS, (don't know if he was related), signed the marr. bond as being the guardian for Thomas. I would like to hear from anyone having data regarding any of these ADAMS or WATSON people. Thanks in advance for your help. Ed Jones New Palestine, In. >> Hi Ed, I am going to give you all the ADAMS listed in 1850 Bath Co. KY Census. If you can't find one or two of the Adams children there they must have all gone to Indiana huh? # 266 Jesse Craig 45 Va Mary [nee Adams] 29 m. 24 Sept. 1839 Bath co. KY Francis L. 1 year Jonathan DILLY 35 physician RICHARD J. ADAMS 21 Laborer KY Thomas McIntire 28 Daniel McIntire 30 # 509 Larkin Adams 74 b. VA Christina 66 b. unkown Absolem 21 KY Lydia A. 14 # 510 Samuel Adams 40 KY Jane 45 KY Nathan 14 Mry 12 Martha 10 William 8 James L. 6 Franklin 4 Lucy 2 # 516 Richard Adams 59 VA Martha 37 KY Richard J 21 Jane 22 Frances 11 Margaret 8 Rhody 6 Sarah H, 2 # 641 james Adams 35 KY Jane 29 INDIANA Anna 11 William 9 Mary 6 James P. 5 Jesse F. 8 months # 156 William Vice Living with William is a Joseph Adams age 18 b. Bath Co. KY # 183 William Adams 58 PA Lucy 45 KY Sirelda 19 John 18 Eliza 13 Lucinda 11 James 8 Martha 7 Louisiana 4 # 262 Thomas Adams KY Jane 24 Marriah 4 Letha J. 2 William House 20 # 528 J.W. Adams 35 KY Mry 21 John T. 2 Sarah J. 9 months Check them out........they might fit someplace. Blessings! Vivian