Looking for information on Rennie/Raney Carpenter and his wife, Elizabeth Hunt Harvey Spencer Carpenter. I believe Rennie was the Son of Squire Carpenter. I need Rennie's date of birth and date of death. He and Elizabeth lived and died in the Kendall Springs community of Bath County. Billie Hunt

http://www.mindspring.com/~kyblue/bath/ Is the online link for the Bath Co Gen Web Page. I checked and the link does work. Hope it helps Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <JanPro77@aol.com> To: <KYBATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 11:26 AM Subject: [KYBATH] Bath County Webpage? > What is the address for the Bath County page, I clicked on the one at > Rootsweb and it came up as no such address. > Janeen Proctor > >

What is the address for the Bath County page, I clicked on the one at Rootsweb and it came up as no such address. Janeen Proctor

Why do you think or know that this information is not available through www.genealogy.com subscriptions?? John ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hdanw@aol.com> To: <KYBATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:34 PM Subject: [KYBATH] Kentucky Land Records - CD ROM On Sale > Dear Kentucky Researchers, > > I dearly love my CD-ROM called Kentucky Land records, 1774-1924. I have some > good news to share with you. Note the late date of some of these land > records--1924. If you have lost some of your early Virginians or some of > your North Carolinians, you might find them on one of these lists. (There > are a few Pennsylvanians, of course.) > > Because of my CD-ROM, I no longer have to squint at the five volumes of > Willard Jillson for land records which list approximately 100,000 > individuals. I even found on the CD my Michael Stoner of early Kentucky > fame--I hadn't found him before in the indexes of the Jillson published > volumes. The CD is very searchable. > > Anyway, this is to notify that I got a catalog from Family Tree Maker > Magazine today of their CD-ROM sale. This CD ROM Item #00650, which > originally cost nearly $30 is now only about $12. > > You might scan the catalog at ww.Genealogy.com/fall-sale. > > This is not an ad, but I thought you would like to know of a bargain when you > see one. > > This information is NOT in the subscription to Genealogy Library, in case you > are a subscriber to that online info. > > E.W.Wallace > who has MANY early Kentuckians (refugees from VA and NC) > > >

Dear Kentucky Researchers, I dearly love my CD-ROM called Kentucky Land records, 1774-1924. I have some good news to share with you. Note the late date of some of these land records--1924. If you have lost some of your early Virginians or some of your North Carolinians, you might find them on one of these lists. (There are a few Pennsylvanians, of course.) Because of my CD-ROM, I no longer have to squint at the five volumes of Willard Jillson for land records which list approximately 100,000 individuals. I even found on the CD my Michael Stoner of early Kentucky fame--I hadn't found him before in the indexes of the Jillson published volumes. The CD is very searchable. Anyway, this is to notify that I got a catalog from Family Tree Maker Magazine today of their CD-ROM sale. This CD ROM Item #00650, which originally cost nearly $30 is now only about $12. You might scan the catalog at ww.Genealogy.com/fall-sale. This is not an ad, but I thought you would like to know of a bargain when you see one. This information is NOT in the subscription to Genealogy Library, in case you are a subscriber to that online info. E.W.Wallace who has MANY early Kentuckians (refugees from VA and NC)

I have corresponded with a man who has an old bible that he purchased as part of an estate auction. He would very much like to find descendants in case they would be interested in this bible. The first marriage has Thomas G. Whaley and Mary H. Caldwell married 19 May 1839 in Sharpsburg by Rev. R.F. Caldwell. This family evidently moved to Shelbyville at some point. There are several marriages, births, deaths and a few miscellaneous items. Please contact me if you are descended from this couple and I will put you in touch with the man who has the bible.

Is this information not in the new Rowan County Cemeteries CD ROM that they have for purchase? I believe it includes all the counties surrounding Rowan County, Kentucky and it is SEARCHABLE on your computer. How does your paperback volumes differ from this Historical Society CD ? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara W. Ingram" <bwingram@mrtc.com> To: <KYBATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: [KYBATH] MENIFEE COUNTY CEMETERY BOOK > > New book: MENIFEE COUNTY GRAVEYARDS, contains info from Vol 1 & 2 of my cemetery records plus burial in Menifee Co since I transcribed the records in the early 1980's. If anyone is interested, please email me at bwingram@mrtc.com > >

New book: MENIFEE COUNTY GRAVEYARDS, contains info from Vol 1 & 2 of my cemetery records plus burial in Menifee Co since I transcribed the records in the early 1980's. If anyone is interested, please email me at bwingram@mrtc.com

Are all of the RootsWeb lists down, or is my ISP blocking lists? Jim Becraft jbecraft@atlantic.net

Annie Doggett Markwell died 5 May 1965 in Bath Co., Ky., at the age of 85. Was there an obituary for her in the Owingsville Outlook? If so, could someone copy that for me and mail it. Will gladly pay for this. Her husband was Basil R. Markwell. Jane in Idaho

>From Dept. of Defense website, http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/b09152001_bt433-01.html " The Department of the Navy confirmed today that Aerographer's Mate First Class Edward Thomas Earhart, 26, Salt Lick, Ky., was killed during Tuesday's attack on the Pentagon. He was previously listed as unaccounted." Please include the family and friends of this young man from Bath County in your thoughts and prayers.

>From his death certifcate it states James W. Boyd was buried in Carlisle, Ky. The informant was a Mrs. Bettie Boone. Was she a dau? Widow was Mrs. Martha Ellen Boyd. 2nd marriage? When did his first wife, Bettie Hornback die? Would like to get an obit for James to see who his children were. James was born 22 Nov 1856 and died 21 Sep 1933 in Lexington, Ky. Looks like he lived with Bettie Boone as they had the same address, 1101 Limestone St. Lexington. Your help is most appreciated. James was the son of Richard and Narcissa Myers Boyd. Narcissa and my great grandfather, Lewis, were bro & sis. They were born in Bath Co., Ky., to Jacob and Lucy Corbin Myers. Jane in Idaho

Marion Frances Hornback born March 14, 1901 died of typhoid Fever on Aug. 11, 1917. She died at an institution called Market House in Franklin County, KY. Her death cert informant space says this: Records Ky F. M. I. For Children In the length of residence for hospital, institutions, transcients or recent residence it says: At place of death 6 yrs 7 mos 6 da. Former or usual residence: Bath Co, KY. She was buried at the Institute burying ground. Does F.M.I stand for Franklin Mental Institute? Are they still in existence? If so they might still have records of her and her parents. Thank you, donna

Hi Fellow Listers, I need to know if anyone can help me solve a mystery. William H. Hornback. This man is driving me crazy as well as his children...and the fact that they are all dead makes it even more weird that they ARE driving me crazy. Surnames in this email...Hornback, Lynam, Dailey, Snedgar, Davis and Rice Today I received 4 death certificates I ordered, with special thanks to Chester Ward, he's who I ordered them thru. AND, now even more questions are raised than answered. This is the census information I have on William H. Hornback and Elizabeth Lynam. William is the son of Ishmael and Sophia (Clayton) Hornback and Elizabeth is the daughter of Andrew and Jane Lynam. 1870 Bath Co Census Record #99, Wyoming Precinct: William Hornback 36, KY, farmer; Elizabeth 33, Milford W. 14, Sarah A. 12, Joseph P. 10, John J. 8, William M. 6, George A. 3, Harrison T. 1 KY Death Index online Last Name First Name MI Age Death Place Residence Death Date Volume Certificate Death Volume HORNBACK WILLIAM 080 BATH 09-25-1914 046 22827 1914 Have this death cert. 1880 Federal KY Census Place: Bethel, Bath, Kentucky Source: FHL Film 1254402 National Archives Film T9-0402 Page 351A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthpl. William Hornbeck, self, M, M[married], W, 46, b. KY, Fa b. KY, Mother b. KY, occ-laborer Lizzie Hornbeck, wife, F, M, W, 41, KY, KY, KY, keeps house Sarah Hornbeck, dau, F, S[single], 21, KY,KY, KY, at home William Hornbeck, son, M, S, W, 19, KY, KY, KY, laborer Harrison Hornbeck, son, M, S, W, 10, KY, KY, KY, at home Charley Hornbeck, son, M, S, W, 7, KY, KY, KY, --- Ann Hornbeck, dau, F, S, W, 13, KY, KY, KY, at home Ella Hornbeck, dau, F, S, W, 9, KY, KY, KY, --- Mary Hornbeck, dau, F, S, W, 6, KY, KY, KY, --- Lyde Hornbeck, dau, F, S, W, 2, KY, KY, KY, --- 1900 Fed Census Bethel, Bath Co., KY 101 Hornback, William H. Head W M apr 1834 66 Married pob KY fpob KY mpob KY Elizabeth S. Wife W F may 1837 63 Married pob KY fpob KY mpob KY Knox, Thomas Grand Son W M Nov 1884 15 Single pob KY fpob KY mpob KY Hornback, Taylor Grand Son W M Jan 1884 16 Single pob KY fpob KY mpob KY Vergil Grand Daughter W F Mar 1888 12 Single pob KY fpob Ky mpob KY ?ebb. A. Grand Daughter W F Feb 1889 11 Single pob KY fpob KY mpob KY James S. Grand Son W M Apr 1892 8 Single pob KY fpob Ky mpob KY Adda L. Grand Daughter W F Sept 1895 4 Single pob KY fpob Ky mpob KY Think its an F and is supposed to be Phebe 1910 Miracode Index William Hornback Enumeration District: 0004 Color: W Age: 76 Birth Place: Kentucky Visit: 0173 County: Bath Relation: Husband Relatives: Daughter Sallie 53, Kentucky Granddaughter Tildie J 16, Kentucky Now, with JUST the census information you can see where William and Elizabeth were together up till 1900. This helps negate that he married Milly Copher in 1883. There is a marriage between a William Hornback and a Milly Copher on record in Bath Co., but I believe it to be another William Hornback. With special thanks to John Vice who provided me with Elizabeth Hornback's headstone information from Gilead Cemetery. It states Elizabeth Hornback born November 06, 1837 died January 29, 1908. With this information it helps negate the suppossed 4th marriage of William Hornback to Hannah Davis. NOW, to confuse the issue more...there IS a marriage on record in Bath Co for a William Hornback and a Hannah Davis. I also sent off for a death certificate for Marion Frances Hornback who is the daughter of a WIlliam Hornback and a Hannah Davis, she was born March 14, 1901 according to her death certificate and died Aug. 11, 1917, her place of birth Bath Co, place of death Market House, Franklin County, KY. Once again with the census info and headstone info I beleive William and Elizabeth were married up till 1908. Which would mean there's another William Hornback going around getting married and having children. No one knows who William's son William married, maybe some of these children are in actuality his Grandchildren and not his children. I also recieved 3 other death certificates. Harry T. Hornback, Park Hornback and John J or G Hornback. All 3 children listed as belonging to William. Two are from his suppossed first marriage, one from Elizabeth Lynams marriage to WIlliam. As far as census info goes, on the 1860 census it shows William Hornback living alone with 4 children and right next door as neighbors it shows Andrew and Jane Lynam with their 23 year old daughter ELizabeth living with them. The census doesn't state she's Elizabeth Hornback, just Elizabeth. There has been and will continue to be the question on whether or not William had another wife BEFORE he married Elizabeth Lynam. BUT, now there is alot of questions and a possible lead for us to follow up on. Harry T. Hornback place of death Bath Co male white married wife Margaret Stewart date of birth 1866 age at death 68 farmer Father William hornback KY mother Elizabeth Lynam KY informant Willie Barby burial Gilead Cem. Sept 10, 1934 Undertaker Shrout, Piper and Shrout Owingsville, Date of Death Sept 6 1934 cause of death vascular heart disease. Who is MArgaret Stewart? Does anyone have any information on her and their marriage and children? Park Hornback place of death Fleming male white Widower Date of birth Dec, 30, 1855 age at death 86 yrs 4 months and 8 days, birthplace KY Father name William Hornback KY mother Lizzie Lynam KY Informant Mrs. Marion McKee Hillsboro, KY RR Burial Gilead KY 5-9-1942 cause of death Myocarditis-chronic. Who is Mrs. Marion McKee? Is she related to Park and the Hornbacks? He is one of the 4 children we think is from the first marriage of William but it lists Lizzie Lynam as the mother. Now, did the informant not know the mother or assume since William had been married to Elizabeth for so long that she was his mother? John ? Hornback place of death Bath County male white Widowed name of wife Nannie Dailey. date of birth April 5, 1860 age at death 86 years 5 months and 9 days Birthplace Pebble KY Farmer Father William Hornback KY Mother Sarah Rice KY Informant Mrs. Jacob Snedgar Burial Bethel KY 9-17-1946 Funeral director J. W. Stewart Residence of deceased Bath Co, KY Date of death Sept 15, 1946 cause of death conjestive heart failure. Now you can see why more questions are raised. Is Sarah Rice the first wife? Is this John my Williams son? If he is then the question arises is Sarah Rice the mother of Park also? Does anyone know who Sarah Rice who married John is? Does anyone have their marriage info? If John and Park are brothers and Park is born before John then we have 2 mothers for the brothers listed on death certs. If Sara Rice IS the first wife of WIlliam and the mother of his first 4 children then we have more digging to do. Now, you all know why I have grey hair *smile* Thank you for listening to me about this family!!! Any help is MOST appreciated. Sincerely and thank you, Donna

Looking for info on Silas Thompson who had chrn Clell and Martha. He was born c1850. Who did he marry, when did he die, did he have other chrn.? Thanks

Below is William Blackstone Saunders and Eliza Jane Day, daughter of Squire Asberry Day and Margaret Foster. Who is Leonia Day? Thanks --Renee Schaeffer Census Place: Cedar, Jackson, Kansas-1880 Source: FHL Film 1254383 National Archives Film T9-0383 Page 110B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace William SAUNDERS Self M M W 45 KY Occ: Farmer Fa: KY Mo: KY Eliza SAUNDERS Wife F M W 43 KY Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: KY Leonia DAY Other F S W 9 KY Fa: KY Mo: KY

Does anyone know if this Lewis (P?) Day is the son of Squire Asberry Day and Margaret Foster? Who is George Denton? And what is the Daughtery connection? Thank you--Renee Schaeffer Census Place: Gardner, Sangamon, Illinois-1880 Source: FHL Film 1254249 National Archives Film T9-0249 Page 333D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Lewis DAY Self M M W 35 KY Occ: Farmer Fa: KY Mo: KY Nancy DAY Wife F M W 33 KY Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: KY Charles DAY Son M S W 13 KY Occ: Works On Farm Fa: KY Mo: KY William DAY Son M S W 11 KY Occ: Works On Farm Fa: KY Mo: KY Maggie DAY Dau F S W 7 KY Fa: KY Mo: KY Samuel DAY Son M S W 2 KY Fa: KY Mo: KY Agnes DAY Dau F S W 4M IL Fa: KY Mo: KY Mary DAUGHERTY SisterL F S W 22 KY Fa: KY Mo: KY George DENTON Other M S W 25 MO Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: VA Mo: IN

Hi List, I'm looking at the 1880 census for Bath, Bethel District. Finally got my hands on it! Yippee!! However, the enumerator didn't have the best handwriting in the world. I'm trying to figure out who the children of this couple are. Moses Hendrix age 33 Wife Susan age 33 Son William 12, son Cli???? age 9, son what looks like Gino age 6, son Monroe age 6 and another son age 4 starts with Mo?c???? I already had in my file William and Monroe but I had no idea Monroe had a twin! Does anyone else know anything about this family? Thank you, Donna

Donna, what I have is based on the research of others, and is not well documented: Jacob Ross was born 8 Sep 1792 in Ky. and died 30 Jun 1880 in Randolph Co., IN. He is buried in Huntsville Cemetery, Huntsville, Randolph Co., IN.. He married Elizabeth Denton on 26 Sep 1815 in Bath Co., KY. Elizabeth was born 13 Mar 1799 in Fleming Co., KY. (or Tn.), and died 12 Feb 1857 in Nettle Creek Twnshp., Randolph Co., IN. Jacob's father was, reportedly, John Ross, born 18 September 1754 in Prince William Co., VA. LDS claims John was a Revo. War vet. There is some controversy over the name of John�s wife. Through circumstanial evidence, I beieve her name was Elizabeth Piatt (also spelled Pyatt). There were Pyatts in Bath County around this time, but I have been unable to link Elizabeth with any of them. In addition to Jacob, John also had other children: 2)Mary B. Ross, born. ca1786 in VA, died 1865 in Bath Co., KY. Mary married Rev. Jeremiah M. HUNT on 27 October 1805 in Fleming Co., Ky. 3)Margaret Ross, born 1800, married Wesley DENTON on 23 November 1818 in Fleming Co., Ky. 4)Eleanor Ross, born 1788, married James Marshall Feb. 2, 1811 in Fleming Co.. Eleanor is reported by John Vice <johnvice@kih.net> . I have no other report on Eleanor. 5)Andrew Ross, born 1790 in Livingston County, KY, died 1841 in Livngston Co., Kentucky. Andrew is reported on http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/h/a/Linda-J-Chavez/ODT9-0002.html. I have doubts about Andrew, but I�ll give him to you in the interests of completeness. Jacob�s children included (?): 1)John Ross b. 26 Jul 1817 in Fleming Co., KY. living in Randolph Co., Ind. at 1850 census married Elizabeth Ball HUNT 24 Mar 1840 in Randolph Co., IN. b. 18 May 1823 in Randolph Co., IN. bondsman was William Denton. Elizabeth was the daughter of Rev. William Hunt. 2)Misam Ross b. ca1843 in Ind. per 1850 census Page 37, line 21, dwelling 485, family 486, Randolph Co., Indiana 3)J. Crienden Ross b. ca1845 in Ind. per 1850 census Page 37, line 21, dwelling 485, family 486, Randolph Co., Indiana 4)Eunice Ross b. ca1848 in Ind. per 1850 census Page 37, line 21, dwelling 485, family 486, Randolph Co., Indiana 5)Wicklif Ross b. ca1850 in Ind. per 1850 census Page 37, line 21, dwelling 485, family 486, Randolph Co., Indiana 6)Thomas Ross b. 7 Nov 1822 in Fleming Co., KY. (poss. Thomas F. Ross 27 M Farmer b. Ky married Eunice Ross 28 F Ind son William A. Ross M Ind per 1850 census) 7)Edward D. Ross b. 16 Dec 1824 in Fleming Co., KY. married Mary Ann HILL 25 Jul 1850 8)America Ross b. 6 Oct 1826 in Fleming Co., KY.| married William H. HAYES 25 Dec 1881 9)Amanda B. Ross b. 21 Aug 1828 in Fleming Co., KY. married John W. KEENER 29 Jun 1845 10)Artimency Ross b. 16 Aug 1830. married David WRIGHT 3 Dec 1848 11)Wesley D. Ross b. 1 May 1832 in Indiana per 1850 census, page 36, line 18, dwelling 469, family 470, Randolph Co., In. married Cynthia Ann Amburn 17 Nov 1850 12)Loren W. Ross b. ca1835 in Indiana per 1850 census, page 36, line 18, dwelling 469, family 470, Randolph Co., In. 13)Andrew V. Ross b. 12 May 1834 14)Elijah P. Ross b. 13 Aug 1838 15)Ellen P. Ross b. 1 Feb 1843 in Indiana per 1850 census, page 36, line 18, dwelling 469, family 470, Randolph Co., In 16)Matilda J. Ross b. 7 Sep 1840 per 1850 census, page 36, line 18, dwelling 469, family 470, Randolph Co., In. 17)Thomas Ross b. 7 Nov 1822 in Fleming Co., KY. 18)Fletcher Ross 19)Dausey (prob. Dorsey) Ross 20)Waldo Ross 21)Perkins Ross b. ca1838 in Indiana per letter & per 1850 census, page 36, line 18, dwelling 469, family 470, Randolph Co., In 22)Sarah Ross b. 29 Jul 1820 in Fleming County, Kentucky d. 17 Mar 1896 at: Modoc, Randolph County, Indiana IMO, more than half of these reported children of Jacob Ross cannot be correct. I have not yet been able to link my Ross�s up with Jacob�s line, so I have not done much independent research on this particular descendency. BTW, I have a note on my chart for your Celia (Denton) Perkins. On one of the census lists I found (1860 I believe), there is a Susan Ross, age 0, living in the household of Elijah and Celia Perkins. Do you happen to know who Susan was? The Ross's of Bath Co. are my primary area of interest, and I have never been able to link Susan up with any of the other Ross families. Well, those are the high-lites of what I know(?) about Jacob Ross. I also maintain charts on related Denton, Hunt, Piatt and Vanlandingham lines, but have much work left to do on documenting the various links. John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

The Marriage Bond that I am looking at right now is for the marriage of Jacob Ross and Elizabeth Denton. It is signed by Jacob Ross and William Denton. My copy is not complete, but from other sources I know that Jacob and Elizabeth were married on Sept. 26, 1815. The text of the Marriage Bond actually appears to have been written in two hands: the legal phrasing is in a small, tight script; while the names of the parties (in the body of the legal text) is in a noticably larger and more open hand. In fact, the names (William Denton, Jacob Ross, Elizabeth Denton) are about 3 times as large as the adjoining legal phrasing. What is also peculiar is that the name "William Denton" in the body of the marriage bond text appears to be in a different hand than the signature at the bottom of the Marriage Bond contract. On the other hand, I have a Marriage Bond from 1839 in which the body of the document appears to have been written in a single hand, and the signatures at the bottom look somewhat different from the names as written in the body of the contract. In reference to Linda's suggestion that some Marriage Bonds were "complete copies": This would not seem to be the case here because of the variations in hand writing styles. This is not to say that the Clerk could not have tried to replicate these variations when making an exact copy, but if the copy is THAT exact, then I�m hoping that the variations in style are still of some value in identifying the parties involved. I do note that on the Marriage Bonds that I have, there are hand written "seals" next to the signatures. Apparently the County Clerk never used a notary stamp or imprinter. In reference to Carter�s question about Marriage Bonds after 1840: I don�t know how late they were used. The latest one that I have is from August of 1839. I�m sure the people at the Kentucky State Historical Center Archives in Frankfort would be able to tell you exactly what the last date was. BTW, I was just in the Bath County Library in Owingsville last week. For those of you not familiar with it, they have an excellent genealogy room, with many volumes of genealogy for local families. It is well worth your time to go out of your way to visit it. I can almost guarantee you�ll find something new there. A very helpful staff, too. Thanks to all who responded to my posting. John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/