This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: ok- Brice E. Murphy and Mary Jane Murphy deeded to A. F. Palmer(Parmer) 63.75 acres on Crooked Creek in 1893 book W page 166 1892 Deed (from a very short note) A.F. Parmer bought from her brother Brice E. Murphy and Wife Mary J. Murphy and Sister Susan M. Ritter and husband William Ritter property that had beonged to their mother Cela Murphy and Father Terral L. Murphy Nathan is not listed in this -curious- unless the person who went back to look it up for me missed it. no other children are listed either. In the Catlett Graveyard at the end of Brown Store Road is the grave of Cely Murphy wife of T. L. she died 2-3-1889 in her 77th year so the age would be right for the family that almedia was living in in the 1860 census. Wonder why nathaniel isnt mentioned. Alice that you found on the 1880 Census living with her grandparents is the right age for the Last child of William Palmer and Almedia Murphy. I know that people dont like to here these things but the last two children on Almedia were born out of marriage. Minerva's death certificate names her father as John Ryon. Havent checkd Andy's. Also explains the comment in Elisha's Will that says the lawful heirs of my deceased son William. i was looking at the info you sent earlier. if Leonard is married to Celia then her age is right to be our Cely. Other thoughts but i want to think about them a little first Can you tell me any other info from census that you have found have miss placed all my notes apparently. bill