This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Murphy, McKinney Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.4.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hey Marsha, I've run across that marriage also of a Brice and Elizabeth McKenney. Just found it at familysearch.org: BRICE MURPHY Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH MCKINNEY Marriage: 11 JAN 1836, Anderson, Kentucky Have no idea who this might be. There is no other data other than the marriage listed. Perhaps my Terral L. Murphy had a brother? Time will tell. Donnie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.4.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Brice E. Murphy and Mary Jane Corbin might have been married in Jefferson Co., KY....that is only a guess but my gt grandfather Brice Enos Cummings the son of Wm Cummings and Nancy MURPHY....moved from Shelby Co., KY to Jefferson Co. He married in 1896 to Eva Bland both of Bagdad. If you recall tehre was a Brice Murphy on the 1850 Anderson Co. Census there was a Brice Murphy age 2 son of Brice age 35 and Elizabeth age 32 (in census).....I believe this was the Brice that shows up on a 1900 census with Mary J....I believe this was a brother to my Nancy Murphy... Also I found a marriage of Brice E. Murphy and an Elizabeth McKinney in 1836 but this was years ago and I didn't write the county down....DUH!!! But believe it is in Anderson What do you all think ........could this be the Mary J you are looking for Marsha.........your some kind of cousin.....hahaha

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Murphy, Starr, Ritter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.4.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hey Bill, It's good to see a document which actually lists the Terral L. name. I'm still wondering if this Terral L. and the Tilman L. are one in the same. I'm thinking the census takers just have the name incorrect. I can't get past the fact that Alice Parmer was living with this Tilman Lefler and listed as granddaughter. This Tilman has an Illinois connection and I'm thinking that may have something to do with not finding him on Kentucky census records. I would like to know if they're the same person. If not, I'd really like to know both their relationships to Brice Elkins Murphy. Could this Terral L. be Terrel Lefler vs. Terrel Leonard? Lefler could indicate a mother's maiden name. The Lefler surname is a name of this area is it not? I stopped in at the Shelby County Courthouse annex yesterday and could not find a marriage between Brice E. Murphy and Mary Jane Corbin...so now I'm at a loss as to where they might have married. Would they have married in Spencer or Jefferson? Oddly, I did find a marriage record between a Brice Murphy and a Martha Alice Starr, dau of Samuel Starr, on 6th Aug 1880. Anybody have any idea which Brice this is? or who this Martha Alice Starr is? Marsha, is this your Brice by chance? This Brice was born in Anderson County and was 28 at time of marriage. She was 21 and it was both first marriages. Just more stuff to keep me confused here....hehe...... Donnie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: NALL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1801 Message Board Post: Would appreciate the 1870 census info. for: Nal Thomas ... Anderson 306

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McKee, Fishburn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1800.2.1 Message Board Post: Thank you. The info is indeed for the family for whom I am searching. Since I live in Louisiana and the "distant" cousin with whom I'm working lives in Canada, we are unable to do any site visits. Thanks for helping us locate this family. As an aid to your kind offer to search further: Miles born MS 1/1883 died 4/21/1926 in Anderson Cty. He was a doctor of some kind. Don't know if he married. William Walker born MS 1/1886 died in Arizona in 1914. No other info found. Charles born KY 9/1888 is noted to have married Delia Boston and had at least two sons: James Lange about 1909 and Wallace unknown date I have no further info on daughters Margaret born KY 7/1892 or Mary/Maria born KY 1904. Any small item you might locate would be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McKee, Fishburn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1800.3.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your reply. This could well be my Mattie. I had found Cabell in the 1920 Anderson Cty census with daughter Maria and grandson James but could not find Mattie although I knew she was still living. It is certainly possible that she worked as a seamstress and might have lived in. Age given for Mae Roach and ages of her children appear to place her out of running as one of Mattie and Cabell's daughters, however. I found the family with children's names on the 1900 census for Anderson Cty. Daughter Margaret was born 1892 and Mary (or possibly Maria) was born 1904. Also noted are sons Miles C. born MS 1883, William born MS 1886, and Charles born KY 1888. I will continue my search. Again, many thanks for taking the time to respond.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1800.3 Message Board Post: Located Mattie 1920 Anderson County as an addendum to the following family, Roach, Mae, 40?, Widowed, KY, KY,KY cannot make out occupation Henritta, 14, daughter, KY, KY, KY Lena, 11, daughter, KY, KY, KY David, 10, son, KY, KY, KY Paul, 8, son, KY, KY, KY addendum to page 7b this family McKey, Mattie, 56, Miss, LA, Miss, dressmaker Mae possibly might be Margaret married name and the birthplaces are wrong, just speculation, possible since she is a widow and mother may have been staying there to help raise the children.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McKee, Fishburn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1800.2 Message Board Post: 1900 Anderson County Census-Cheshire District couldnt locate, may be in another township or county. 1910 Anderson County Census-Cheshire District ED#10 family 14-16 *noted census was hard to read had to make educated guesses on some of it, particulary Mattie's parents birth states. McKee, Cabel H., 54, KY, KY, VA, Farmer-married 28 yrs. Mattie A., 48, MS, LA, TN , Wife Miles C., 27, Married 3 yrs?, son, Dental? School MS, KY, MS* no spouse showing Margaret, 17, daughter, KY, KY, MS Maria T., 6, KY, KY, MS family 1-1 same district McKee, Charles E., 28?, KY, KY, MS, Farmer Helen, wife, 31, KY, KY, KY James L., son, 1 6/12mos?, KY, KY, KY 1920 Anderson County Census Cheshire, Foxcreek Rd, Dist #26 family 48-50 McKee, Cabel H., 63, Married *no spouse showing, Farmer Mary T., 16, daughter James L., Grandson , 11 1930 Anderson County Census Cheshire District #7, Lawrenceburg and Bardstown Roads family 104-106 McKee, Cabell H., 74, Widowed, KY, KY, VA Farmer James, 21, Grandson, Single, KY, KY, KY I will try to go to the City Cemetery and see if they are buried there and to the Courthouse for Wills and Marriage Bonds on Children later this week. The area they lived in was rural, how far from town they lived Im not sure, they maybe possibly buried at a Rural Church Yard. Unfortuately we do not have any Newspaper on microfilm that I could look up an obituary. Hope this helps some. Sincerely, Trish

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.4.1.1 Message Board Post: It was like the land didnt belong to him that it belonged to her. See what yall think. B. E. Murphy to A. F. Parmer In consideration of One Hundred and Thirty-three dollars and 33 1/3 cents in hand paid us by Almeda F. Parmer the receipt of which is hereby acknowledged. We Brice E. Murphy and my wife Mary J. Murphy, Susan M. Ritter and my husband William Ritter have this day sold and hereby sell and convey with general warranty unto the said Almeda F. Parmer our entire undivided interests in and to a tract of land lying on the waters of Crooked Creek in Anderson County, Kentucky and bounded as follows......... Containing Sixty-three and 3/4 acres the same more or less and the interest here in conveyed is two (1/3) one third interests in said tract of land which descended to us from our mother Cela Murphy Dec. This conveyance is made subject however to the life ____ of our father Terral L. Murphy. To have and to hold said tract of land with all the app____ _____belonging except as above mentioned interest of Terral L. Murphy unto the said Almeda F. Parmer her heirs and assigened forever. I! n testimony when of We the said Brice E. Murphy, Mary J. Murphy, Susan M. Ritter, and William Ritter join in waiving and conveying all rights of homestead or dower or C___ in and to said tract of land have hencewith subscribed our names this April the 4th 1893. Brice E. Murphy Mary J. Murphy Susan M x Ritter William x Ritter note says that it was conveyed to owner Dec 1895.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.4.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Bill for your efforts. Looks like the one source I ran across says a marriage took place in Shelby so I definitely need to find time to get up here to the courthouse in Shelbyville and look around. They have virtually every marriage all the way back to 1792. Perhaps there will be a clue there. Since Cela died in 1889, Teral would have been 79 years old. I'm wondering if he had all his faculties or not, or perhaps, it was simply his advanced age that he allowed the transfer of deeds to take place. Just pondering things right now...... Donnie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LAMBERT,HENDERSON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1763.1 Message Board Post: Just wanted to post that any information should be posted here or on treewalker64@yahoo.com as I am moving and changing my email address.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.4 Message Board Post: I went to the Court House in Lawrenceburg today. If our Cela and Terral were married there in 1836 i couldnt find the bond. Also i copied two deeds that refer to land that Brice, Susan and Almeda inherited when their mother died. Mother listed as Cela Murphy and Father as Terral L. Murphy. The thing i find as strange is that the Father is still alive when the deeds are written.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Murphy Classification: Death Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.2.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: I'm posting this just for the benefit of other Murphy researchers.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.1.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Donnie, Thank you so much for this death certificate. I added it to my scrapbook....Yes I believe this was Wm H.'s mother but wonder why in the world he didn't know her parents names, etc or perhaps the person taking the information didn't ask him for more than the info given....makes you nuts doesn't it. Would you have any idea who the Elizabeth Murphywas, or where she may have died that was on the 1850 Census in Anderson Co.? Her age was given as 32 md to Brice Murphy age 35...I believe this has to be my line because they have Nancy age 14 in their home....this would make her the right age for my Nancy Murphy md to Wm Cummings. I believe they were in Shelby Co., KY.by 1896 because their son Brice Enos Cummings married in their house. MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE "THIS IS TO CERTIFY, That on the 24th day of DECEMBER, 1896, the RITES OF MATRIMONY were legally solemnized by me between MR. ENOS CUMMINGS and MISS EVA BLAND at WILLIAM CUMMINGS house in the COUNTY of SHELBY in the presence of W.A. DUNCAN, W. B, HAYDEN and few others: SIGNED. JOHN W. SHAW ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MARRIAGE BOND The Commonwealth of Kentucky "Be it known that we ENOS CUMMINGS as principle and T.S. SUMMERS as surety are jointly and severally bound to the Commonwealth of Kentucky, in the sum of ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS." "The Condidtion of this BOND is as Follows: That, whereas a Marriage is intended to be Solemnized between the above bound, ENOS CUMMINGS and EVA BLAND." Now, if there is not lasful eeuse to obstruct said Marriage, this Bond shall be void; Otherwise it sall remain in full force and effect. DATED at SHELBYVILLE, KY...County this 21st day of DECEMBER, 1896 SIGNED, ENOS CUMMINGS his mark (X) T.S. SUMMERS ATTEST: E.J. Doss, Clerk, County Court ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Back of MARRIAGE BOND: MALE 1. Date of Marriage, DECEMBER 24, 1896 2. Name of Groom, ENOS CUMMINGS 3. Residence of Groom, CROPPER, KY 4. Age of Groom, 21 YEARS 5. Number of Marriages for Groom, 1ST 6. Occupation, FARMER 7. Birthplace of Groom, SHELBY CO., KY 8. Birthplace of Groom's, Father, ANDERSON CO., KY 9. Birthplace of Groom's, Mother, ANDERSON, CO., KY FEMALE 10. Name of Bride, EVA BLAND 11. Residence of Bride, BAGDAD 12. Age of Bride, 21 YEARS 13. Number of Marriages for Bride, 1ST 14. Birthplace of Bride, SHELBY CO., KY 15. Birthplace of Bride's Father, UNKNOWN 16. Birthplace of Bride's Mother, UNKNOWN 17. Remarks, NONE To be Married at the residence of Bride's Mother, on the 24th of DECEMBER, 1896. I Certify that the above is correct to the best of my knowledge and belief. WITNESS my hand, the 21st day of December, 1896. SIGNED, ENOS CUMMINGS -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------SOMETHING MUST HAVE HAPPENED...BECAUSE If you look at the marriage date...December 25th and in the newspaper and back of the marriage bond...it says they were to be married on the 24th of Dec, 1896 at the bride's mother's house...but they married the next day at the groom's father's home....I know that Eva Mae Bland's father was dead by the time of her marriage his name was John Duncan Bland who married Matlida Rodgers/Rogers..why she didn't list that info on her bond is anyone's guess. Marsha.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Murphy, Corbin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.1.3.1 Message Board Post: I hope this is the correct Mary Jane Corbin. I believe it to be since she is buried at Pigeon Fork, and the informant was W. H. Murphy, her son (William Hiter Murphy).

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.1.3 Message Board Post: Donnie, Do you mind to post what was on the death certificate.. did it name the informant for Mary Jane Murphy? If the Corbin name pan's out please let me know. Marsha

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Donnie, I think we are related in someway but......"how is the big question" I believe you could be correct about your Brice Elkins Murphy a nephew of my Brice E. Murphy b 1815... My Brice E. Murphy would have been 22 yrs old when your Brice was born...I think the Brice Murphy age 66 b VA in the census of I posted earlier... was the father of your T.L. and my Brice? I would like to know what part of Virginia they came from but am thinking of Culpeper or Prince William because of the area their intermarried family were in. Have you looked in early Lincoln or Garrard Co's in KY? Keep me in mind and I hope we can be of help to each other... Marsha Kentucky

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Murphy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hey Marsha, My Brice Elkins Murphy info is derived from his death certificate: Death Certificate of Brice Elkins Murphy Commonwealth of Kentucky - Bureau of Vital Stats file number 29296 Registration no. 143 Place of death: Anderson County, Kentucky Full name: BRICE ELKINS MURPHY Voting Precinct: Alton # 2 Personal and Statistical Particulars: Sex: Male Color: White Married Date of birth: 10 Mar 1837 Age: 75 years, 5 mos, 22 days Trade: Farmer Fathers birthplace: VA Fathers name: T. L. Murphy Fathers birthplace: Anderson County, Kentucky Mothers maiden name: unknown (Simply listed as Murphy) Birthplace of mother: VA Burial place: Pidgeon Fork Baptist Church Cemetery, Shelby-Anderson County line Date of burial: 02 Sep 1912 Undertaker: J. H. (unreadable) Address: Waddy, Kentucky INFORMANT: W. H. Murphy (William Hiter, son) ADDRESS: Avenstoke, Anderson County (looks like) Medical Certificate of Death Date of Death: 01 Sep 1912 I hereby certify that I attended deceased from 28 Jul 1912 to 01 Sep 1912. I saw him last alive on 30 Aug 1912 at 3pm. The principal cause of death was Senility and the secondary cause was Acute Tonsillitis. Signed: Dr. John Murdock Address: RR 2, Waddy, Kentucky I'm still trying to figure out the relationships of all our Murphys, but right now, I'm inclined to think that your Brice would have been a brother to my Brice's father T. L. since they are close in age. Just need to prove it. Donnie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.1.2 Message Board Post: The In-laws of Brice E. Murphy;s grandson Brice Enos Cummings .....Matilda Jane Rodgers and John Duncan Bland were also buried in Shelbyville, Shelby Co., KY...in the Bagdad area in the Indian Fork Baptist Church.....cemetery so.........I do believe these families are the same as they were in Anderson Co. then to Shelby Co and mine later went to Louisville, Jefferson Co., KY Any thoughts.... Marsha

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UAB.2ACE/1797.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Murphy Cousins, Do you know where the middle name for Brice Murphy came from? My Gt. Grandfather was Brice Enos and his mother was Nancy Murphy of Anderson Co., KY the daughter of a Brice E. Murphy. His death certificate is below. Death Certificate of Brice Enos Cummings Commonwealth of Kentucky - Bureau of Vital Stats Registration District No. 755 file number 1589 Registration no. 276 Place of death: Louisville, Jefferson Co., KY Full name: BRICE ENOS CUMMINGS Residence: 316 S. Campbell St., Louisville, KY Personal and Statistical Particulars: Sex: Male Color: White Widowed Age: 58 years Trade: Carpenter Fathers birthplace: KY Fathers name: William Cummings Fathers birthplace: KY Mothers maiden name: Nancy Murphy...(listed in the 1850 census..) Birthplace of mother: Anderson Co., KY Burial place: Eastern Cemetery, Date of burial: Jan 23, 1934 Undertaker: L.D. Bax? Address: 717 East Chestnut Street Louisville, KY INFORMANT: SUSAN EVANS ADDRESS: 918 Fahr Avenue, Louisville, KY Portland area Medical Certificate of Death Date of Death: January 21, 1934 I hereby certify that I attended deceased from January 14, 1934 to January 21, 1934. I saw him last alive on January 21, 1934 at 6pm. The principal cause of death was PULMONARY TUBERCULOSIS Signed: Dr. Ely H. Smith Address: 850 Eastern Parkway Louisville, KY ============================================= You have used Elkins for the middle name of a Brice Murphy in Anderson County and I was wondering where it came from. My gt grandfather went by Enos Cummings....it may be that Nancy Murphy-Cummings just chose her father's first name for her son or perhaps there were 2 Brice E. Murphy's in Anderson. Can you help me out on that one? Do you think that my Brice E. Murphy b abt 1815 from was the son of Terell L. Murphy? or perhaps a brother. From the 1850 Anderson Co., Census I believe that my Brice was the son of Brice age 66 yrs old in the Census with a wife, Catherine age 57 yrs and both born in Virginia...living near the one in the census below...house #693. 1850 Federal Census of Anderson Co., KY #738 Murphy, Brice, age 35, Farmer b Ky $100 Murphy, Elizabeth, age 32 b Ky Murphy, NANCY, age 14, b Ky.......was this my Nancy Cummings? Murphy, Riley, age 10, b Ky Murphy, John, age 8, b Ky Murphy, Thomas, age 5, b Ky Murphy, Brice, age 2, b Ky.........this is the Brice Murphy in the 1900 census with wife Mary J. might be a brother to my Nancy Murphy Cummings. Can anyone help me solve this puzzle? Thanks Marsha