Sorry Mimi, The father of John and Allen was Obadiah Owen Jr. who was the son of Obdiah Owen Sr and this one was a son of Wiliam Owen the son of Richard and Sarah Rowland,. I do have all this info of the Roofsweb.com under Obadiah Owen Sr. or Jr. Jim **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)