Larry, I checked the 1880 census at _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) and Martha Jackson's 1880 transcription. The only 2 Elizabeth Oliver's in Allen Co b. 1863-1864 were: 1) Elizabeth, daughter of John Richard and Matilda Jackson Oliver 2) Elizabeth, daughter of William W. and Matilda Tabor Oliver (William W was her 2nd of 4 husbands) There were no Elizabeth's or name variants b. 1852. The 1900 Census for Thomas W. Pruit gives wife Elizabeth b. 1852, married 9 years. I'll let you know more tomorrow after I check the death records. In the meantime, John Richard Oliver 1837-1916 was son of Price and Frances Caroline Stubbelfield Oliver. Price Oliver was son of William and Phoebe Stovall Oliver who came from Pittsylvania/Halifax Co VA about 1800. William W. Oliver 1794-1869, first wife Susan Purr and second wife Matilda Tabor came from Caroline Co VA about 1833. I have not discovered the parents of either William Oliver. Sharon In a message dated 1/11/2009 6:26:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, FmlyTracer writes: Larry, I found Thomas W. Pruitt/Prewitt in my database. The 1900 census matches the information about the Oliver/Priutt marriage in 1891. However, there is a huge age discrepancy. In the census, Elizabeth is given as being born 1852. The Elizabeth Prewitt/Pruitt who died in 1930 would have been born 1864. I don't have access to Ancestry.com right now in order to double check my notes. I will try to get to the KY Library tomorrow to check the death certificate. I have a John W. Oliver in my database, wife Elizabeth Finney, but no daughter named Elizabeth/Eliza/Betty. I am CCing other Oliver researchers in the hopes they can assist. Sharon Tabor In a message dated 1/11/2009 4:31:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, packlarryj@att.net writes: Sharon,I am looking for John Ws parents,grandparents etc. Also,any siblings of Elizabeth. I saww something that made me think that John Thomas Oliver was a brother of Elizabeth. Thanks, Larry ____________________________________ From: "fmlytracer@aol.com" <fmlytracer@aol.com> To: packlarryj@att.net Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 2:33:23 PM Subject: Fwd: [KYALLEN] Elizabeth(Betty)Oliver Larry, The Liberty Church minutes have never been released to the Allen County courthouse. The original minutes were stolen from the church about 7 years ago when their safe was taken, and fortunately just a few weeks before the church clerk had photocopied them for preservation purposes. He is the only one who has them. The information from the Liberty church minutes concerning marriages was transcribed by me from that document soon after the theft occurred to supplement the missing marriages at the court house. I placed that information online and at the courthouse along with other records. I have tried contacting other churches in the county to request access to their marriage and death records but with no success. I am currently at work and will check my Oliver database this evening and get back with you concerning. What specific information for Elizabeth do you want? Are you looking for John W's parents? Regards Sharon Tabor -----Original Message----- From: Larry Pack <packlarryj@att.net> To: KyAllen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 1:37 pm Subject: [KYALLEN] Elizabeth(Betty)Oliver I would like any information you may have on the OLIVER ancestors starting with Elizabeth(Betty)Oliver who was born 12/02/1863and died 02/01/1930.She was married to Thomas William Pruitt on 03/20/1891. Her father was John W. Oliver and her mother was Elizabeth C. Finn. Her marriage was recorded in the Liberty Baptist Church records which were turned over to Allen county sometime after the Allen County courthouse fire. Larry Pack ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to _KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com_ (mailto:KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com) with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________ Get a free MP3 every day with the _Spinner.com_ (http://spinner.com/) toolbar. _Get It Now_ (http://toolbar.aol.com/spinner/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000021) . ____________________________________ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. _See yours in just 2 easy steps!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://ww w.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=DecemailfooterN O62) **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)