Hello, a quick "ouch", I went looking through rootsweb, to see of any direction to go on a relative, and found some of my research with my family stories that was told to me by my grandmother, mom and other relatives. And personal stories...... So I know they got it from my research I had shared with one relative and he thought he was doing a good thing to share. But they took it as their own. So understand your frustrations. Marcia >From: Shirley <malone_kid2@bellsouth.net> >Date: 2007/03/13 Tue PM 05:36:35 CDT >To: kyallen@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [KYALLEN] Ancestral data at Ancestry.com ? >Amen, Mimi. Oh, yes! They somehow managed to get my information as well. I >once bought an FTM update that came with one of their CDs. I couldn't >believe that it had so many of my family names on it. Then I found they had >my "work-in-progress" on it was the reason for all of my family names. It >was really maddening to pay for my own work. >Shirley > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mimi Alexander" <wallyjakeandme@msn.com> >To: <kyallen@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:46 PM >Subject: Re: [KYALLEN] Ancestral data at Ancestry.com ? > > >Thanks Martha, and you too, Sharon Clark, for your thoughts on the subject. > >It does help to know I'm not alone in my views and that others understand >the problem. The thing that really bugged me was that, "I personally", >had never submitted my own ancestral files and yet.....there they were, >ERRORS included made from a zillion years ago! That was how I knew without >a doubt that it was mine! Since making those errors many years ago, I've >learned the true facts, (names, dates, locations, and spelling of names for >example), and have since corrected and documented those earlier incorrect >errors, but there it was at ancestry.com - the incorrect data for anyone >to see and believe. Maybe Ancestry should have a place to fill out that >lists the, "source of documentation", and if there is none, then a >certain, "icon", is placed next to that information printed? this way the >reader is notified that the data might not be correct. > >Well...I have that off my chest now so I guess I feel better ~ > >Thanks you Guys! > >Mimi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Martha Hardcastle Guthrie<mailto:Mothra@woh.rr.com> > To: kyallen@rootsweb.com<mailto:kyallen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:55 PM > Subject: Re: [KYALLEN] Ancestral data at Ancestry.com ? > > > Mimi, > > I understand your frustration but genealogy has changed so rapidly in > recent years that I don't know the solution is available at present. > > With Family Tree Maker, a merge of family or people is just a click > away. Unfortunately, they don't currently have a method of preserving > the source with those merges. When people are trying to gather > information, I believe they will merge very likely people and the > available data. I do this myself. Sometimes, I am able to confirm > further proof but with so many different lines, it's hard to keep every > one of them in pristine form. > > I think what happens is that in the case of FTM, it will prompt people > to contribute their information at certain milestones, such as > "Congratulations! You have 3,000 people in your file! Would you like to > submit your information?" People get some gratification at this little > "pat on the back" but don't realize that everything they have is not > necessarily correct or sourced. > > The only thing that I can say is that I don't take anything for granted, > and sometimes this information is obviously not a match or valid, in > which case I delete individuals or change information about them. It's a > constant work-in-progress. But sometimes these little hints may help > find the path to the real information. > > I found an old file in Word from years ago before the advent of the > current FTM - I may have been using Brother's Keeper back then, or maybe > nothing at all. I found a name, Margaret West, for the wife of my > ancestor Alexander Hogue that I didn't remember seeing or had ever > entered into my records. As it turned out, the surname was correct but > Alexander's wife was Louvicy - Margaret was her sister! This led me to > something I had been searching for for 10 years or so! > > I think that it would be good if Ancestry.com/FTM could be convinced to > find a way to mark unproven records as such and to provide the most > recent sources with each merge. > > I don't know if this helps any, but I think this is why and how this is > happening. > : ) > Martha in Dayton, Ohio > > Mimi Alexander wrote: > > Hello List, > > > > While I subscribe to several genealogical groups, for example: >ancestry.com, I have NEVER submitted any research files to them or any >other internet research group. I've always entered my research, (and >research others have shared with me), into my Family Tree Maker program. >My reason for not wanting to submit my research and notes is because, while >"some", has been documented, other data remains to be validated with >documentation. A little while ago while looking for information on a >certain ancestor, I discovered some of my research files are available for >viewing at ancestry.com. This angers me because I DID NOT SUBMIT THE DATA. >How on earth did they get this information and how could they show it >without my personal permission? It's not that I do not want to >share.....but rather, I only care to share that data which has been >validated with documentation. Now.....people who read it at ancestry.com >will take it as valid when in fact, it may not be corr! > > ect. Does anyone know how this can happen? No one is happier than me >to share with others, but only if it's researched and validated. When I >send data that has not been validated, I'm always sure to tell the person >exactly that.....or if it's data from another persons research And not mine, >I tell them that as well. > > > > Thanks for listening and allowing me to vent a little steam on this >matter! > > > > Mimi > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com> with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message > > > > > > > > -- > ÐÏࡱá > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com> with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Marcia