Hello Allen Co. KY, list, Larry on the Warren CO. list suggested I try your list. My name is Joey Sidney Crabtree, and my grandfather was Pete Crabtree; b: 1883 in Pickett Co TN. D; 1941 Overton Co TN Wife; Vara Davis Pete had a brother named Brownlow Crabtree and I think he moved to Warren Co. KY. I do not know when. I believe my dad Sid Crabtree and I visited him in Bowling Green, when I was just a kid that would have been around 1950 or 53. If anyone has information I would be most appreciated. Thank you, Joey Crabtree Sterling Height, Michigan

Hello Allen Co. KY, list, Larry on the Warren CO. list suggested I try your list. My name is Joey Sidney Crabtree, and my grandfather was Pete Crabtree; b: 1883 in Pickett Co TN. D; 1941 Overton Co TN Wife; Vara Davis Pete had a brother named Brownlow Crabtree and I think he moved to Warren Co. KY. I do not know when. I believe my dad Sid Crabtree and I visited him in Bowling Green, when I was just a kid that would have been around 1950 or 53. If anyone has information I would be most appreciated. Thank you, Joey Crabtree Sterling Height, Michigan

Sharon, In one of our communications,you made mention of Mount Union general baptist church cemeteries.  I had a relative interred in the oldest of these cemeteries about 1931.  She has no grave marker.  I wondered if the church has any record of burials including names and dates and also of location. Thanks, Larry

Larry, No....I did not receive that message. Would you give me the name listed in the "Subject bar"? Thanks, Mimi ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Pack<mailto:packlarryj@att.net> To: kyallen@rootsweb.com<mailto:kyallen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [KYALLEN] Becky Duncanre:Elizabeth Oliver Mimi, The e-mail was 81685 bytes. Did you check to see if you recieved a copy of it on the 14th? If you did,then all is well. If not,then we need to figure out a way to get it to0 you. Thanks, Larry ________________________________ From: Mimi Alexander <wallyjakeandme@msn.com<mailto:wallyjakeandme@msn.com>> To: kyallen@rootsweb.com<mailto:kyallen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:49:18 AM Subject: Re: [KYALLEN] Becky Duncanre:Elizabeth Oliver Hi Larry, What amount of KB.s is this message? Sometimes, when someone emails excessively large emails to me, they do not open. My Server, MSN for whatever reasons does not allow them to open. Mimi OLIVER - HOLLAND - HARRIS - KIRBY - STOVALL - STUBBLEFIELD - OWEN - JACKSON - DIXON . ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Pack<mailto:packlarryj@att.net<mailto:packlarryj@att.net>> To: KYALLEN@rootsweb.net<mailto:KYALLEN@rootsweb.net<mailto:KYALLEN@rootsweb.net%3Cmailto:KYALLEN@rootsweb.net>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:36 AM Subject: [KYALLEN] Becky Duncanre:Elizabeth Oliver Sharon, I have tried to forward a couple of responses from Becky Duncan dated 1/14/2009 that seem to be elucidative. My guess is that you automatically recieved them;however,when I tried to forward them to you,they were rejected by the administrator because they were too long. Please advise. Larry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Ewin Covington. 80. Died January 5, 2009, Scottsville, KY. Cross Plains, TN native. Parents: late John Ewin Covington and Margaret Gilliam Covington. Survivors: wife, Ada Reed "Dickie" Covington: son, John Ewin Covington III: 2 grandchildren. Burial: Cross Plains Cemetery, Cross Plains, TN. Refer to: The Citizen-Times, January 8, 2009 Submitted by: Mary Kathern Beadle Sweetpotato14551@Yahoo.Com

Christopher Allen Vickery, Lawrenceburg, KY. 25. Died January 2, 2009. Vandalia, IL. native. Survivors: mother and step-father, Pam and Mike Miller: father and step-mother, Jack and Holly Vickery: sister, Meagan Huston: brother, Matthew Shea Sherrard: half brother, Tuler Ramsey: grandparents; Jim and Jannette Williams, Ron and Linda Rennirt, Carl Vickery: 2 nephews. Rogers Funeral Home, Frankfort, KY. Refer to: The Citizen-Times, January 8, 2009 Submitted by: Mary Kathern Beadle Sweetpotato14551@Yahoo.Com

Georgetta Susan Perry. 49. Died January 3, 2009, Scottsville, KY. Allen County native. Parents: Wanda Sue Thomas, the late George Nelson Walker. Other survivors: husband, Bobby Perry: step-father, Ronnie Thomas: daughters; Barbara Lynn and David Miller, Jessica Leanne and Michael Cline: son, Dustin Meredith Perry and fiancee Jennifer Kennedy: sister, Tammy Stanton: brothers; Glenn and Terri Walker, Steve Walker, Kevin and Angie Thomas: 7 grandchildren. Burial: Walkers Chapel Methodist Church. Refer to: The Citizen-Times, January 8, 2009 Submitted by: Mary Kathern Beadle Sweetpotato14551@Yahoo.Com

Hi Larry, What amount of KB.s is this message? Sometimes, when someone emails excessively large emails to me, they do not open. My Server, MSN for whatever reasons does not allow them to open. Mimi OLIVER - HOLLAND - HARRIS - KIRBY - STOVALL - STUBBLEFIELD - OWEN - JACKSON - DIXON . ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Pack<mailto:packlarryj@att.net> To: KYALLEN@rootsweb.net<mailto:KYALLEN@rootsweb.net> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:36 AM Subject: [KYALLEN] Becky Duncanre:Elizabeth Oliver Sharon, I have tried to forward a couple of responses from Becky Duncan dated 1/14/2009 that seem to be elucidative. My guess is that you automatically recieved them;however,when I tried to forward them to you,they were rejected by the administrator because they were too long. Please advise. Larry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tabitha "Toby" Ingram McClary. 84. Died January 3, 2009, Gold City, KY. Drake, KY native. Parents: late James Hilary and Annie Neel Ingram. Husband: late Harold McClary. Survivors: son, Hindel Ray McClary: brother, Thomas Ingram: granddaughter: locally by sister-in-law, Georgia McClary. Predeceased by: brothers; James Ingram, Joe Ingram: sisters; Willie Mae Lillard, Grace Dearing, Eunice Schmalz, Ann Barnes. Burial: Old Union Missionarey Baptist Church Cemetery, Bowling Green, KY. Refer to: The Citizen-Times, January 8, 2009 Submitted by: Mary Kathern Beadle Sweetpotato14551@Yahoo.Com

Kenneth H. Stinson. 87. Died January 1, 2009, Scottsville, KY. Allen County native. World War II US Army veteran. Parents: late Hurston Stinson and Rosa Carter Stinson. Survivors: sons; Gary and Carol Stinson, Tony and Linda Stinson: brother, Noble and Liza Mae Stinson: sister-in-law, LaVoice Caldwell: 3 grandchildren. Predeceased by: grandson; Michael Chad Stinson. Burial: Allen County Memorial Gardens. Refer to: The Citizen-Times, January 8, 2009 Submitted by: Mary Kathern Beadle Sweetpotato14551@Yahoo.Com

Warren Adair Osborne, Scottsville, KY. 85. Died January 4, 2009, Louisville, KY. Warren County, KY. native. World War II Army veteran. Parents: late Ruben Osborne and Gertrude Richey Osborne. Wife: late Evelyn Allen Osborne. Survivors: daughters; Shirley Sue and Steven Hurt, Rita Allen and David Desman, Vicki Elaine and Gary Grissom: 7 grandchildren: Faithful companion, his dog, Sarge. Burial: Crescent Hill Cemetery. Refer to: The Citizen-Times, January 8, 2009 Submitted by: Mary Kathern Beadle Sweetpotato14551@Yahoo.Com

Lola Dean Taylor Law, Mt Olive Community. 92. Died January 4, 2009, Gallatin, TN. Sumner County, TN. Parents: late Arthur Taylor and Bevie Meador Taylor. Husband: late Vetres Lee Law. Survivors: daughters; Mary Nell Law Davis, Betty Jean Law: sisters; Viola Crocker, Lavern and Paul Graves: special sister-in-law, Mae Taylor: 6 grandchildren. Predeceased by: brothers; Everett Emons Taylor, Willie Hoy Taylor: son-in-law, the Rev. Earl Davis. Burial: Mt. Olive Cemetery. Refer to: The Citizen-Times, January 8, 2009 Submitted by: Mary Kathern Beadle Sweetpotato14551@Yahoo.Com

Ann McIntyre Spears. 66. Died January 1, 2009, Bowling Green, KY. Allen County native. Parents: late Euwin B. McIntyre and Theresa Amanda Tracy McIntyre. Survivors: husband, Darnell Spears: son, Don Paul Stovall: daughter, Robin and Steven Herrington: stepson, John A. Spears: daughter-in-law, Tammy Stovall: 4 grandchildren. Burial: Crescent Hill Cemetery. Refer to: The Citizen-Times, January 8, 2009 Submitted by: Mary Kathern Beadle Sweetpotato14551@Yahoo.Com

Mimi, The e-mail was 81685 bytes. Did you check to see if you recieved a copy of it on the 14th? If you did,then all is well. If not,then we need to figure out a way to get it to0 you. Thanks, Larry ________________________________ From: Mimi Alexander <wallyjakeandme@msn.com> To: kyallen@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:49:18 AM Subject: Re: [KYALLEN] Becky Duncanre:Elizabeth Oliver Hi Larry, What amount of KB.s is this message?  Sometimes,  when someone emails excessively large emails to me,  they do not open.  My Server,  MSN for whatever reasons does not allow them to open.  Mimi OLIVER - HOLLAND - HARRIS - KIRBY - STOVALL - STUBBLEFIELD - OWEN - JACKSON - DIXON .    ----- Original Message -----   From: Larry Pack<mailto:packlarryj@att.net>   To: KYALLEN@rootsweb.net<mailto:KYALLEN@rootsweb.net>   Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:36 AM   Subject: [KYALLEN] Becky Duncanre:Elizabeth Oliver   Sharon,   I have tried to forward a couple of responses from Becky Duncan dated 1/14/2009 that seem to be elucidative. My guess is that you automatically recieved them;however,when I tried to forward them to you,they were rejected by the administrator because they were too long. Please advise.   Larry     -------------------------------   To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sharon, I have tried to forward a couple of responses from Becky Duncan dated 1/14/2009 that seem to be elucidative.  My guess is that you automatically recieved them;however,when I tried to forward them to you,they were rejected by the administrator because they were too long. Please advise. Larry

I just want you all to know that I have been driving myself crazy over this for hours this afternoon and evening while watching a nice series of movies on Turner Classic Movies - I have Finns married into my Patterson line and my Olivers married to my Hardcastles and I thought this would be easy . . . well, it's not. I really need to go to bed but I have added so many new cousins to my collections . . . Martha Larry Pack wrote: > I would like any information you may have on the OLIVER ancestors starting with Elizabeth(Betty)Oliver who was born 12/02/1863and died 02/01/1930.She was married to Thomas William Pruitt on 03/20/1891. Her father was John W. Oliver and her mother was Elizabeth C. Finn. Her marriage was recorded in the Liberty Baptist Church records which were turned over to Allen county sometime after the Allen County courthouse fire. > Larry Pack > >

Larry, I checked the 1880 census at _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) and Martha Jackson's 1880 transcription. The only 2 Elizabeth Oliver's in Allen Co b. 1863-1864 were: 1) Elizabeth, daughter of John Richard and Matilda Jackson Oliver 2) Elizabeth, daughter of William W. and Matilda Tabor Oliver (William W was her 2nd of 4 husbands) There were no Elizabeth's or name variants b. 1852. The 1900 Census for Thomas W. Pruit gives wife Elizabeth b. 1852, married 9 years. I'll let you know more tomorrow after I check the death records. In the meantime, John Richard Oliver 1837-1916 was son of Price and Frances Caroline Stubbelfield Oliver. Price Oliver was son of William and Phoebe Stovall Oliver who came from Pittsylvania/Halifax Co VA about 1800. William W. Oliver 1794-1869, first wife Susan Purr and second wife Matilda Tabor came from Caroline Co VA about 1833. I have not discovered the parents of either William Oliver. Sharon In a message dated 1/11/2009 6:26:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, FmlyTracer writes: Larry, I found Thomas W. Pruitt/Prewitt in my database. The 1900 census matches the information about the Oliver/Priutt marriage in 1891. However, there is a huge age discrepancy. In the census, Elizabeth is given as being born 1852. The Elizabeth Prewitt/Pruitt who died in 1930 would have been born 1864. I don't have access to Ancestry.com right now in order to double check my notes. I will try to get to the KY Library tomorrow to check the death certificate. I have a John W. Oliver in my database, wife Elizabeth Finney, but no daughter named Elizabeth/Eliza/Betty. I am CCing other Oliver researchers in the hopes they can assist. Sharon Tabor In a message dated 1/11/2009 4:31:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, packlarryj@att.net writes: Sharon,I am looking for John Ws parents,grandparents etc. Also,any siblings of Elizabeth. I saww something that made me think that John Thomas Oliver was a brother of Elizabeth. Thanks, Larry ____________________________________ From: "fmlytracer@aol.com" <fmlytracer@aol.com> To: packlarryj@att.net Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 2:33:23 PM Subject: Fwd: [KYALLEN] Elizabeth(Betty)Oliver Larry, The Liberty Church minutes have never been released to the Allen County courthouse. The original minutes were stolen from the church about 7 years ago when their safe was taken, and fortunately just a few weeks before the church clerk had photocopied them for preservation purposes. He is the only one who has them. The information from the Liberty church minutes concerning marriages was transcribed by me from that document soon after the theft occurred to supplement the missing marriages at the court house. I placed that information online and at the courthouse along with other records. I have tried contacting other churches in the county to request access to their marriage and death records but with no success. I am currently at work and will check my Oliver database this evening and get back with you concerning. What specific information for Elizabeth do you want? Are you looking for John W's parents? Regards Sharon Tabor -----Original Message----- From: Larry Pack <packlarryj@att.net> To: KyAllen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 1:37 pm Subject: [KYALLEN] Elizabeth(Betty)Oliver I would like any information you may have on the OLIVER ancestors starting with Elizabeth(Betty)Oliver who was born 12/02/1863and died 02/01/1930.She was married to Thomas William Pruitt on 03/20/1891. Her father was John W. Oliver and her mother was Elizabeth C. Finn. Her marriage was recorded in the Liberty Baptist Church records which were turned over to Allen county sometime after the Allen County courthouse fire. Larry Pack ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to _KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com_ (mailto:KYALLEN-request@rootsweb.com) with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________ Get a free MP3 every day with the _Spinner.com_ (http://spinner.com/) toolbar. _Get It Now_ (http://toolbar.aol.com/spinner/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000021) . ____________________________________ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. _See yours in just 2 easy steps!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://ww w.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=DecemailfooterN O62) **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

I would like any information you may have on the OLIVER ancestors starting with Elizabeth(Betty)Oliver who was born 12/02/1863and died 02/01/1930.She was married to Thomas William Pruitt on 03/20/1891. Her father was John W. Oliver and her mother was Elizabeth C. Finn. Her marriage was recorded in the Liberty Baptist Church records which were turned over to Allen county sometime after the Allen County courthouse fire.                                                                                                                            Larry Pack

Barbara Nell Petty. 73. Died December 24, 2008, Bowling Green, KY. Sumner County, TN native. Parents: late Lawrence Albert Rippy and Dovie Mae Meador Rippy: Husband: late Ottis Eugene "Jelly" Petty Sr. Survivors: sons; Michael Allen and Kaye Petty, Eugene Jr. and Gail Petty: daughters; Shelia Gail and Danny Crowder, Robin Michelle Petty: sisters; Dorothy Hardcastle, Shirley Devers: 8 grandchildren. Predeceased by: brother, Jimmy Rippy. Burial: Allen County Memorial Gardens. Refer to: The Citizen-Times, January 1, 2009, Page 4 Submitted by: Mary Kathern Beadle Sweetpotato14551@Yahoo.Com

Ossie Dalton. 91. Died December 28, 2008, Scottsville, KY. Allen County native. Parents: late Warren Ed Spears and Nola Parris Spears. Husband: late William Ray Dalton. Survivors: daughter, Judy and Terry Howell: son, Norris Dalton: 7 grandchildren. Predeceased by: brothers; Corbin Spears, Biviah "Bill" Spears: granddaughters; Ashley Stratton, Brooke Wimpee: great-great-granddaughter, Zoe Brown. Burial: Union Chapel UMC Cemetery. Refer to: The Citizen-Times, January 1, 2009, Page 4 Submitted by: Mary Kathern Beadle Sweetpotato14551@Yahoo.Com