I received this answer to my e-mail to Senator Bill Nelson about the rate increase with the SS-5 forms which will take effect July 1st. Thought you'd might be interested in what he had to say. ******************************** WWW.sandymartz.com Sandy's Genealogy Sign my guestbook -----Original Message----- From: senator [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 3:39 PM To: Sandy Martz Subject: Re: SS-5 form Thank you for contacting my office. Your views and concerns are important to me. We are receiving a large volume of e-mail about issues important to you and other Florida residents. If you are requiring assistance with a problem concerning an agency of the federal government, you must make the request in writing. Unfortunately, I cannot respond in detail via the internet. In the near future, we will have a computer program to assist us in processing such messages. In the meantime, you can reach me by facsimile or through regular mail. Please be sure to include your full mailing address with zip code in any correspondence. My correct correspondence address is: The Honorable Bill Nelson Hart Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510-0905 Fax: 202-228-2183 Best regards, Bill Nelson

I have writtten a letter to my newspaper-it gets a lot of coverage. Maybe everyone should also do that to make people aware of this price gouging. Roslyn ----- Original

Sorry about the last two attempts, cat walking across keyboard). I have been driving by the Eastern (Old Chestnut Grove) Cemetery in Jeffersonville, IN at the corner of 8th Street and Graham, and I am amazed at the improvement. Has someone new taken over the maintenance? The grass is cut nicely, and it is all trimmed around the stones. This is the best that it has looked in years. Someone has taken charge. Thank goodness. Pat Durham McRae, in Indiana Researching: McRae, Tawney, Ritter, Enlow & Argo in IN & KY

28 JUNE 2001 Hello all... Not that I am sticking up for the government, but the volumn of mail that they must get is a factor...then these applications are on microfilm, so there is the cost of several microfilm readers, plus the the toner for the machines, maintenance contracts, and repairs...plus the many clerks to handle the volumn, plus their benefits, and then there is the buildings, desks, chairs, mats, paper, envelopes, and postage, etc... So I can see with their costs how it could go up...but yes I think $27 is quite high, but when you consider how long it takes them to raise the price, perhaps we just lucked out for all this time...LINDA

My Letter to all is gone and confirmation is back that it was recieved. ie............... I have just discovered that the SSA is raising the price by 286% for the most valuable tool that genealogists request, the SS-5 form, Original Application for SS Number... > > It is going up from its present $7 to $27, effective 1 July 2001. > Reference: <http://www.ssa.gov/foia/foia_guide.htm#_Toc517745431> > > This is untenable, since many people who do genealogy are older retired folks on fixed income... and this large increase appears to be intended to discourage the public from access to documents under the Freedom of Information Act. > > How can it cost $27 to receive a request, then make and mail a copy of the one page document??? ...Government is not intended to be making a profit... The $7 seems high, when you actually evaluate the task...and Researching costs more...Could it be that they have some awfully high paid clerks...and/or interns...??? > > Since anything can be proven by statistics, I don't believe their "analysis" but you might want to make your representatives in Congress aware of this... Pauline searching for Center, Centers, Senter, Hale, White, Newmeyer, Baumeier, Bogema.Remember, If it is not FREE, it's not for me!!Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary McGinnis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 6:17 PM Subject: [OHHAMILT] SSA > Copied from a post to another list: > > I have just discovered that the SSA is raising the price by 286% for the most valuable tool that genealogists request, the SS-5 form, Original Application for SS Number... > > It is going up from its present $7 to $27, effective 1 July 2001. > Reference: <http://www.ssa.gov/foia/foia_guide.htm#_Toc517745431> > > This is untenable, since many people who do genealogy are older retired folks on fixed income... and this large increase appears to be intended to discourage the public from access to documents under the Freedom of Information Act. > > How can it cost $27 to receive a request, then make and mail a copy of the one page document??? ...Government is not intended to be making a profit... The $7 seems high, when you actually evaluate the task...and Researching costs more...Could it be that they have some awfully high paid clerks...and/or interns...??? > > Since anything can be proven by statistics, I don't believe their "analysis" but you might want to make your representatives in Congress aware of this... > > Senate Addresses <http://www.senate.gov/> > > House Addresses <http://www.house.gov/> > > President George W. Bush: <[email protected]> > Vice President Dick Cheney: <[email protected]> > Assistant-Secretary for HHS: <[email protected]> > > Notify all your Genealogical buddies, too??? We all need to write... > > Mary McG > in Tennessee > May your thoughts be as glad as the shamrocks, > May your heart be light as a song. > May each day bring you bright happy hours, > That stay with you all year long. > > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Hi, I am trying to locate descendants of Jack Logan, W. C. Logan, or any Allen County, KY Logans. This is my ancestral line. We were at the Old Union cemetery and there were flowers on the graves of Jackson B. Logan, Rebecca (Lamb) Logan, and the graves of their children. (Logans, of course.) A daughter, Mary Sidney Logan Goodrum and her husband, Wesley Logan are also buried there, but I didn't notice whether or not flowers were on those graves. Any Idea who put the flowers there? Must be some relative, surely. Jack and Rebecca were my great grandparents. Sue Pearson Carpenter

Thanks Donna, Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 10:42 PM Subject: [KY-CEM] Re: Sharon-Cem.Help > Try http://www.geocities.com/scarred40 or www.interment.net > This Should help you. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sharon Nicholson <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 9:24 PM > Subject: [KY-CEM] HELP > > > > Does anyone know of a LaBarre Cemetery in Kenton or Boone County? I think > I remember seeing one on the mailing list, but it didn't mean anything to me > then and I deleted it. > > > > Thanks, > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== KY-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > > > > ==== KY-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Does anyone know of a LaBarre Cemetery in Kenton or Boone County? I think I remember seeing one on the mailing list, but it didn't mean anything to me then and I deleted it. Thanks, [email protected]

Try http://www.geocities.com/scarred40 or www.interment.net This Should help you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Nicholson <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 9:24 PM Subject: [KY-CEM] HELP > Does anyone know of a LaBarre Cemetery in Kenton or Boone County? I think I remember seeing one on the mailing list, but it didn't mean anything to me then and I deleted it. > > Thanks, > [email protected] > > > ==== KY-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

Ky Cemeteries online at: http://www.geocities.com/scarred40 --- [email protected] wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 > > KY-CEMETERIES-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 85 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [KY-CEM] Cemetery Location [Sparky > <[email protected]>] > #2 Re: [KY-CEM] Cemetery Location [Sparky > <[email protected]>] > #3 [KY-CEM] Cemetery Forms > [[email protected] (Anne Threlkeld)] > #4 Re: [KY-CEM] KAG Task Force Forms ["Dave & > Linda Simmons" <[email protected]] > #5 Re: [KY-CEM] KAG Task Force Forms > [[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from KY-CEMETERIES-D, send a message > to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, > but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, > too. > > To contact the KY-CEMETERIES-D list administrator, > send mail to > [email protected] > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:13:21 -0400 > From: Sparky <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KY-CEM] Cemetery Location > > Hi Paul, > > I couldn't find a Ringold, KY......but there is a > Ringo's Mill, KY......it > is in Fleming County, KY. There is a country > cemetery located about a mile > from Ringo's Mill. > > > At 12:06 PM 6/13/01, you wrote: > >Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows of a > cemetery located near > >Ringold, Ky. I dont know the name. I believe my > grandfather is buried > >there. His name is Ike Waddle. If anyone can > help it would be greatly > >appreciated. Thanks Jo Does anyone know > what county Ringold is in? > > > > > >==== KY-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > >If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the > Kentucky Cemetery > >list, use > >[email protected] or > >[email protected] if > >you are on the Digest list. > >To learn more about my world visit > http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and > enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > Sparky............... > > "American by birth........Southern by the grace of > God" > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:17:02 -0400 > From: Sparky <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KY-CEM] Cemetery Location > > In fact there are three small cemeteries within a 2 > mile radius of Ringo's > Mill, KY. Maybe one of them is the one you're > looking for. > > > > Sparky............... > > "American by birth........Southern by the grace of > God" > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:49:59 -0400 (EDT) > From: [email protected] (Anne Threlkeld) > To: [email protected] > Subject: [KY-CEM] Cemetery Forms > > Thanks all for the suggestions. I can get one of my > siblings to do the > task for me. Sometimes we cannot see the forest for > the trees. Anne > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:46:23 -0500 > From: "Dave & Linda Simmons" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KY-CEM] KAG Task Force Forms > > Hi, > Can you give me the website? I will see if I can > copy and paste it into an > email so they can print it out at home. > > Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger D. Lovitt,Sr." <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:17 PM > Subject: Re: [KY-CEM] KAG Task Force Forms > > > > Hi All, > > Go to your local library. Most have computers that > the public can use for > > free and download and print the form. > > Carol > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [KY-CEM] KAG Task Force Forms > > > > > > > Hello All...Dear Ann... > > > > > > I also have a webtv and basically someone will > have to mail you a form > > > through snail mail and then you can mail it > back..that is if they do > > > that...I have come across these things and they > only except the > > > applications over the internet...sooooo then you > have to go to a copy > > > shop like Kinkos, where they rent time on their > computers....like $8.00 > > > an hour, only they charge by the minute and use > their computers to do > > > the work...good luck...LINDA > > > > > > > > > ==== KY-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from > the Kentucky Cemetery > > list, use > > > [email protected] or > > [email protected] if > > > you are on the Digest list. > > > To learn more about my world visit > http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > > > > > ============================== > > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and > enjoy access to the #1 > > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KY-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > List problems? Contact the KY-Cemeteries List Mom > [email protected] > > Use Kathleen as the subject line for your post > > To learn more about my world visit > http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 6 message/rfc822 > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:51:03 EDT > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KY-CEM] KAG Task Force Forms > > In a message dated 06/13/2001 8:48:09 PM Central > Daylight Time, [email protected] > writes: > > << Hi, > Can you give me the website? I will see if I can > copy and paste it into an > email so they can print it out at home. > > Linda > >> > > http://www.kyattorneygeneral.com/cemetery > ===== <P>s.</P> <P><A href="http://geocities.com/scarred40">http://geocities.com/scarred40</A></P> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

PLEASE RESPOND TO [email protected] [email protected] wrote: CAN YOU PLESE TELL THE LOCATION OF CUMMINGS KS. CEMETERY? > THANK YOU > BRETT

The USGS mapping service had a notice up a couple of days ago that said due to the power outages and shortages out west....their site would be down periodically. Sparky............... "American by birth........Southern by the grace of God"

There is currently a problem with the web site. I tried to get there from their own links at usgs.gov and HAD the same problem. Liesa [email protected] wrote: >In a message dated 6/18/01 9:29:18 AM Central Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html >> >Couldn't get it. Check to see if the address is right.

>From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [KY-CEM] Cemetery??? >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:17:58 EDT > >In a message dated 6/18/01 9:29:18 AM Central Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html >> >Couldn't get it. Check to see if the address is right. > > This is the correct address - it may be down - if you still can't get it try a search with : USGS mapping information Sharon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

In a message dated 06/18/2001 6:20:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << In a message dated 6/18/01 9:29:18 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html >> Couldn't get it. Check to see if the address is right. >> I copied and pasted just the first half of the URL and it stated the site was temporally down.

In a message dated 6/18/01 9:29:18 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html >> Couldn't get it. Check to see if the address is right.

The best place I have found to go for locating cemeteries is: http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html If the cem is named it will show up - follow the directions on the query page. You may have to ZOOM IN to find them - the first page gives you lat & long for the place you are looking for - WRITE it down - I have gotten pretty good at this - but be patient and explore what the site does - I even found a "cemetery" with ony two graves! Good luck Sharon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I tried it said the page could not be opened. -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Buford <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, June 18, 2001 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [KY-CEM] Cemetery??? >The best place I have found to go for locating cemeteries is: > >http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > >If the cem is named it will show up - follow the directions on the query >page. > >You may have to ZOOM IN to find them - >the first page gives you lat & long for the place you are looking for - >WRITE it down - I have gotten pretty good at this - but be patient and >explore what the site does - I even found a "cemetery" with ony two graves! > >Good luck > >Sharon >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >==== KY-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== >Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; >http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html >To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

You can drive to the church by taking Hwy 421 north from Manchester, left at Burning Springs on Hwy 472 for about one mile. You can also find some cemetery information at www.rootsweb.com and going to Kentucky and Clay County in the counties selection. Then when you get there you can search the links listed. The Clay County Historical Society is a good place to look. There is a listing for some cemeteries on the index. Coleman England Burnside, KY