This is my first time posting to the Kunkle news list. I hope that this message will clear up a misunderstanding about the genealogy and children of Baltzer Kunkle and Elizabeth Trimmer earlier posted in re: B. Kunkle, Blacksmith, part 2. of this letter. There were two Baltzer Kunkles married to Elizabeth's residing in York Co., Pa. Both Baltzer Kunkles were born abt 1774, one being my ancestor Baltzer Kunkle son of Gottlieb Kunkle and wife Agnes. This Baltzer Kunkle was baptised at Christ Lutheran Church, York, York Co. PA. His birth was recorded as 9 April 1774, baptismal 22 May 1774. The other Baltzer Kunkle was born around 1774, probably in York County, PA., and died 17 Sept 1849, not 1841, age 75 years, in Cumberland Co., PA. He was the son of John Kunkle not Jacob Kunkle, who died in 1790 in York Co., PA., and wife Catherine. Baltzer Kunkle married Elizabeth Trimmer, born around 1776, York Co., PA., died 1 January 1850, age 73 years in Cumberland County, PA. The will of Elizabeth's father, Andrew Trimmer appears in Will Book D, page 195, written 6 March 1826, Probated 1 Nov 1832, Adams County, PA. The will of Andrew Trimmer mentions his wife Susanna, land (house & Lot) in the Town of Berlin, Adams Co., PA., and the following children: Samuel, Elizabeth wife of Baltzer Kunkle, Catharine wife of Jacob Atland, Sally wife of John Ferree and Anna wife of Joseph Ferree. The Trimmer family were originally from Amwell Township, Hunterdon County, New Jersey. The children of Baltzer Kunkle and Elizabeth Trimmer were: 1) Samuel Gunkle, born 7 Feb 1799, died 21 Dec 1874, York Co, PA., married Elizabeth Spangler, born Aug 1798 York Co., PA., died 9 May 1874, York Co., PA. 2) Catherine Kunkle, born 31 July 1801, York Co., PA., married Spangler. 3) Sarah Kunkle, born 30 Aug 1803, York Co., PA. 4) Elizabeth Kunkle, born 1 Dec 1805, York County, PA., married James McClure. 5) John Kunkle, born 2 Nov 1808, York Co., PA. 6) Nancy Kunkle, born 2 Dec 1815, York Co., PA. married Samuel Hoover. The source for the children and their birth dates comes from the Kunkle Bible records, deeds for Cumberland and York Co., PA., and the will of Baltzer Kunkle. For a more complete article on this family see my quarterly, "From York To Gettysburg," Volume 1, Number 3, 15 Aug 1996, which includes a copy of the bible records, and other documentation for this family. Peter Kunkle born 1799 (my ancestor) was not the son of Baltzer Kunkle who died in 1849 in Cumberland Co., PA. Peter Kunkle was the son of Baltzer Kunkle and wife Elizabeth (probably Meyers.) This Baltzer Kunkle was still living by the year 1850 and appears in the household of Peter Kunkle during the 1850 census of Warrington Township, York Co., PA. Peter Kunkle was the owner of Kunkle's Mill in York Co. I have been working for over 24 years to clear up all of the inaccurate information regarding the families of both Baltzer Kunkle's. I hope that this information well help someone who is currently working on the Baltzer Kunkle line. Sincerely, Patricia Laird Howard ---------- > From: Janet Reinhold <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: B. Kunkle, Blacksmith, part 2 > Date: Sunday, August 09, 1998 3:20 AM > > Part 2 of 2: B. Kunkle, Blacksmith... > > Balker Kunkle Junior is listed in the 1820 census record of > Pennsylvania in Antrim Township, Franklin County. I found no other > information on this person. > Balthasar Kunckel was born in 1759 in Tulpehocken Township, Berks > County, Pennsylvania. His marriage to Catherine Kobel on April 29, 1783 > was recorded by the Christ Lutheran Church, Stouchsburg, Marion > Township, Berks County. > Baltzer Kunkle was born on March 21, 1774 in Allen Township, Cumberland > County, Pennsylvania and died on September 11, 1841. His father was > Jacob and his mother was Catherine. He married Elizabeth Trimmer who > was born on January 9, 1776 in Hunterdon, New Jersey. They had 4 > children: John (1798), Samuel (1799), Peter (1799), and Sarah (1800). > A man named Balsir Kungle appears in the 1790 census records of > Pennsylvania. He is listed under Hellam Township, York County, > Pennsylvania with four free white males under sixteen years and six free > white females in his household. Baltzer Kunkle is listed in the 1810 > Pennsylvania Census in Manchester, York County. A man named Boltzer > Kunkle is listed that same year in Hellam Township, York County. > Finally, two men named Baltzer Kunkle are listed in the 1820 > Pennsylvania census, one in East Manchester Township, York County, the > other in Dover Township, York County. > Barnabas ("Barney") Kunkel was born on February 10, 1818 in York, > Pennsylvania and died on May 26, 1889. He is buried in Oregon Cemetery, > Holt, Missouri. His father was Henry, his mother was Elizabeth Anna > Miller. He married Catherine Secrist. > Bastian Kunkle of Westmoreland County, is listed in the 1800 Census > Index of Pennsylvania. In the 1810 census, a man named Sebastian Kunkle > is listed in North Huntingdon, Westmoreland County. If this is the same > man, it is unlikely that the candle stand was made by him unless he > called himself by the name Bastian. > Benjamin Kunkel was born around 1805 in Pennsylvania. His father was > Peter and his mother was Maria Magdalena Rausch. I found no other > information on this person. > Another Benjamin Kunkle was born on March 12, 1806 in Perry County, PA > and died on March 1, 1900 in Bayard, Iowa. His name was given in some > records as Benjamin Franklin Kunkle. His father was Jacob and his > mother was Elisabeth Snyder. He married Barbara Edmonds on October 30, > 1831 in Union, Pennsylvania. > Another Benjamin Kunkel was born on August 12, 1801 in Harrisburg, > Dauphin County, Pennsylvania and died on September 22, 1888 in > Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. His father was Christian and his mother was > Anna Maria Elizabeth Welsaur. (His mother's surname has also been > spelled "Welshofer.") He married Magdalena Gross on September 17, 1827. > According to records in the Joseph Downs Collection of Manuscripts and > Printed Ephemera, Benjamin Kunkle is mentioned in the dyeing book of > Solomon Strous and account book of Jacob Strous, Lebanon, Middleton, and > Dauphin Counties, Pennsylvania 1802-1836. This may refer to the > abovementioned Benjamin Kunkle born in Harrisburg. Much of these > manuscripts is written in German, but the books may prove to yield > useful information under further study. > > Also pertinent to the Benjamin Kunkle of Harrisburg is an ledger in the > Downs Collection kept by George Kunkel, the oldest son of Anna Hoyer and > Christian Kunkel. George may have been the brother of Benjamin. He was > a merchant and recorded his financial transactions in this ledger from > 1810 to 1816. > At this point in my research it is impossible to tell if any of these > people might have made the candlestand. A trip to the historical > societies of various counties in Pennsylvania would undoubtedly yield > more information including the occupations of some of these men. I will > continue to check the Kunkle website for any information that might turn > up in response to my query and will add any information I collect to the > file to help narrow the search for B. Kunkle. > > I guess the footnotes don't cut and paste -- let me know if you need > them. > > Melinda > > > > ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== > See our web site at http://www.flash.net/~conkle/INDEX.HTM for all queries printed in the newsletter since January 1995. Be sure to make the last part all capital letters as shown. > > > > >