>Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 06:24:25 -0800 (PST) >X-From_: [email protected] Sat Nov 22 06:24:24 1997 >From: <[email protected]> >Old-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:31:50 -0500 (EST) >X-Sender: [email protected] >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 >To: [email protected] >Subject: Send to all recipients >X-Diagnostic: Already on the subscriber list >X-Diagnostic: 14 [email protected] 32760 [email protected] >X-Envelope-To: KUNKEL-L-request > >RE: Cline/Conkle >HI, I am searching for the parents of three PA women, they are: > >1). Elizabeth Kline, d. 1881: married John Johnson before 1819: their >daughter, > Elizabeth Johnson married about 1839, Joseph Conkle (b. 1807 in PA and > > d. 1890 in WI. > >2). Elizabeth Cline, b. about 1812 in PA, d. 1872 in Meigs Co., OH: married > > William McCaskey before 1817 in PA: their daughter, Mary Ann McCaskey, > > married Michael Conkle about 1840 in PA before moving to OH before WI. > >3). Eva Kline, d. 1849: married 1843 to Daniel Conkle, b. 1812 in PA. > >[email protected] > > > ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== If you have any problems with this list please contact Janet Reinhold, [email protected]

>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:57:08 +0100 >Reply-To: [email protected] >X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [de]C-DT (Win95; I) >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Glassmakers Part 1 >X-Sender: [email protected] >From: [email protected] (Rudnick) > >Hello Janet, >my mother's line (Loehnert / Lehnert) were glassblowers, glassbowler and >Glasschleifer (dont't find a translation for this in my dictionary) in >the Northern Bohemia (Kreis Tetschen: Steinschoenau and Ullrichsthal) >since Stephan Loehnert (born 1809). Stephan's son Joseph (born 1833) >went to Kettwitz (Saxonia) and married 1857 Bertha KUNKEL (born 1830 in >Glashuette bei Baruth / Saxonia). Bertha's father Johann August KUNKEL >(born 1802 in Glashuette bei Baruth) was a glassmaker too. My >grandfather (who was KIA in WWI) was the last one in this tradition of >glass related occupations. > >> I am going to attach two files that give you a >> little history of them. >I'm interested in these files too. Thanks! > >-- >Nick Rudnick >Welzheim, Germany > >Pommern / Pommerania >DORDEL HORN RUDNI(C)K WOLF >Schlesien / Silesia >DUEHRING FUDER HARTIG HOMMEL KUNKEL LOEHNERT RUDNICK >STARKE >Boehmen / Bohemia >HELZEL LAUFER LEHNERT PRASCHL RINGELHAN SCHINDLER WERBIK >Wuerttemberg >BAREIS BRENNENSTUHL ECKARDT EISENMANN FUNK GOETZ GRAU MACK >Posen KOWALSKI >Sachsen / Saxony LUKAS >Baltikum FOERSTER > > > > ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== If you have any problems with this list please contact Janet Reinhold, [email protected]

LOOKING FOR JONATHAN KUNKEL..b.15 sep 1805 d.30 dec 1862 M.Catherine Wetzel b.20 Dec 1803 d.3 Feb.1874. Barbara Standiford [email protected] ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== If you have any problems with this list please contact Janet Reinhold, [email protected]

In response to Schnerr vs. Hegeman I submit (unless Jim has come up with other data since 23 Mar 1995) the information below.... The Family of Anna Magaretha Schnerr Generation No. 1 1. Anna Magaretha Schnerr1, born ca 1738 in Fl�rsbach, Hesse, Prussia; died ca 1797 in Hempfield Twp., Westmoreland Co., Pa. She married (1) Johannes Kunkle , II, Rev. War2,3 ca 1758 in Northampton Co., Pa. He was the son of Hans Johannes Kunckel Kunkle and Anna Magdalena Kaiser. Notes for Johannes Kunkle , II, Rev. War: Will probated 22 Dec 1813 Westmoreland Co., Pa More About Johannes Kunkle , II, Rev. War: Burial: Brush Creek Cemetery Resided/s: ca 1770, to Westmoreland Co, Pa Military: Pvt Promoted Ensign, Westmoreland Co., Militia4 Immigrated: 16 Sep 1748, "Patience" Children of Anna Schnerr and Johannes Kunkle are: i. Joh Lorentz Kunkle, born Unknown; died Unknown; married Susanna. ii. Jon. Georg Kunckel, born Unknown; died Unknown; met (1) Esther Heffel; married (2) Elisabeth ca 1794. iii. Michael Gunkel Kunkle, born ca 1760 in Hempfield Twp., Westmoreland Co., Pa; died ca 1848; married Susanna. iv. Catherine Kunkle, born ca 1760; died Unknown; married Peter Hill ca 1782. v. Magdalona Kunkle, born ca 1760; died Unknown; married Adam Brandhofer 1792. vi. Johannes John Kunkle, born 19 Aug 1769 in Northampton Co., PA - now Lehigh Co., Pa; died 02 Jan 1850 in Center Twp, Indiana Co, PA5,6; married Anna Maria 'Mary' Steiner ca 1790 in Westmoreland Co., Pa. Notes for Johannes John Kunkle: Census: 1820 Blacklick Twp., pg 5 line 56 bottom of page. 1830 Blacklick Twp., pg 213 line 4. 1830 Blacklick Twp., pg 10 Will written 13 Jul 1835 in Blacklick Twp., Filed on 05 January 1850 Will Book #1,#1019, page 701 Indiana County Courthouse, Indiana, Pa I John Kunkle, of Blacklick Township, Indiana County, being of sound memory and in good health but considering it expedient to settle my worldly affairs, do hereby ordain the following as for my Last Will and Testament. FIRST: I desire all my Just debts to be paid as soon as conveniently be done after my decease. SECONDLY: I give, devise and bequeath unto My Beloved Wife Mary should she be living at my decease- as follows--Viz. The use of the little room back of the kitchen together with use of the kitchen in my house during life, and the use of such portion of the garden as she may see fir to occupy, and I give and bequeath unto her one bed and bedding-her spinning wheel and reel and sufficient furniture for her room, and sufficient kitchen utensils to enable her to cook her own food. Also her choice of my cows, - and as a condition of the subsequent devise to My Son William, he is to attend to her Cow and to furnish sufficient fodder and pasture and to deliver to My Wife annually during her natural, twelve bushels of wheat, - One hundred of weight of Bacon and sufficient Tea, Coffee and Sugar and such clothing as she may need, and to furnish sufficient fuel for her fire place, ready chopped at her door. The provisions to be delivered quarterly in advance. ITEM THREE: In consideration of the foregoing and of the charges hereinafter imposed, I give and devise to my son William Kunkle, in fee simple the Land whereon I reside situate in Blacklick Township, Indiana County adjoining lands of Joseph Repine, William Dairs and Joseph Smith and others containing One Hundred and Fifty acres and allowances and more or less, - he paying unto my sons, John Henry and Jacob, their heirs or legal representatives, the sum of One Hundred dollars each, to be paid in four equal installments computing from my decease. ITEM FOUR: I give, devise and bequeath the sum of Three Hundred dollars out of my personal estate, should so much remain after satisfying the before mentioned bequests- to be equally divided between My Daughters, Susan, Catharine, Mary, Betsy, and Hannah, and My Son Adam to be paid to them, and the legal representatives of each of them, as may be dead at my decease, provided that My said Daughter Catharine shall Marry again that then she shall have no part of the foregoing legacy, but the same shall be divided between my other four daughters and My Son Adam, All the said legacies to be paid one year after my decease, at which time my Daughter Catharine is to receive her legacy unless she shall have married again previous thereto. ITEM FIVE: Should there remain and surplus of my personal estate after satisfying the before mentioned Divises and bequests, I give and devise the same to My Sons, John Henry, and Jacob to be equally divided amongst them and the legal representatives of such of them as may be dead,- such representatives to take such share only as my deceased son would have taken if alive. ITEM SIX: I hereby nominate and appoint My Son John and Henry Kunkle to be executor of this My Last Will and Testament, hereby revoking all other Wills. Witness my Hand and Seal, this 13th day of July 1835. (his) John X Kunkle (mark) SEAL Signed, sealed, published and declared by Adam Kunkle, as and for his Last Will and Testament, in the presence of us and of each other- the words "in my house" - "the" and "to furnish sufficient fuel for her fireplace ready chopped at the door" and "in fee simple", - interlined before signing. Thomas White John Kenlon Before me, David Peelor, Register for the Probate of Wills, and granting letters of administration, in and for said County of Indiana, Personally appeared Thomas White, Esq., on of the subscribing witnesses to the foregoing instrament of writing, testifying to be the Last Will and Testament of John Kunkle, late of Blacklick Township, Indiana County, - who being duly sworn according to law, witnest and said that he was personally present, and saw and heard the said Testator sign, seal, publish and declare the foregoing instrament of writing as and for his Last Will and Testament, and that he signed his name as witness to said instrument of writing in the presence and at the request of the said testator, and the time of signing the same, he - the said testator was of sound and disposing mind, memory and understand to the best of his knowledge, observation and belief- and the foregoing Will and the attestation thereto is in the proper hand writing of this deponent and that in the attestation he has inserted the Christian name of Adam by mistake instead of John... Sworn and Subscribed this Fifth day of January AD 1850 Thomas White David Peeler, Register More About Johannes John Kunkle: Burial: Kunkle Cemetery, Blacklick Twp., Indiana Co., Pa Census: 1810, Blacklick Twp.,7 Notes for Anna Maria 'Mary' Steiner: Records found in LDS film #974.812 K2h, Montgomery Co., Pa., recorded by: John T. Humphrey. "The Little Luthern Church". Back in 1771, this area was known as Northampton County, Pa. Today, it is known as Salisbury Twp., Lehigh Co., Pa [James E. Kunkle Oct 1996] More About Anna Maria 'Mary' Steiner: Burial: Kunkle Cemetery, Blacklick Twp., Indiana Co., Pa Notes: Cemetery listing shows 90 yrs 8 mos 1 day old vii. Johan Peter Kunkle, born 1773 in Westmoreland Co., Pa; died 09 Feb 1829 in No. Huntingdon Twp., Westmoreland Co., Pa; married Anna Elizabeth Rugh ca 1795 in Westmoreland Co., Pa. More About Johan Peter Kunkle: Chr/Bapt: 06 May 1792, Harrold's Zion Church, Westmoreland Co., Pa8 Burial: Brush Creek Cemetery, Westmoreland Co., Pa Ref No.: 1.1.7 More About Anna Elizabeth Rugh: Chr/Bapt: 06 May 1792, Harrold's Zion Church, Westmoreland Co., Pa Age 16 yrs Burial: Brush Creek Cemetery, Westmoreland Co., Pa viii. John Sebastian 'Boston' Kunkle, born 02 Jan 1775 in Westmoreland Co., Pa; died 1864; married Maria Catherina Walthour ca 1796. More About John Sebastian 'Boston' Kunkle: Chr/Bapt: 06 May 1792, Harrold's Zion Church, Westmoreland Co., Pa9 ix. John Adam Kunkle, born 11 Dec 1777 in Westmoreland Co., PA. x. Catharina Barbara Kunkle, born 10 Feb 1779 in Westmoreland Co., PA; married Frederich Cort. Endnotes 1. PO Box 2999, Denver, CO 80201, "Kunkle, James E.," Pedigree chart of Nov 1995. 2. Floyd G. Hoenstine, Historian, Pa Society, Compiler, 1955 Year Book of the Pa Society, Sons of the American Revolution, (The Pennsylvania Society, Sons of the American Revolution 1956), 480. 3. PO Box 2999, Denver, CO 80201, "Kunkle, James E.," File #4 shows born: 2 Feb 1733 died: Bef. 22 Dec 1813. 4. DAR Patriot Index (1979) Vol II pg. 124 5. Pa Mortality Schedule pg. 173. 6. "Courthouse, Indiana Co., Pa," Will Filed 5 Jan 1850. Proved 13 Jul 1850 Will Book 17, pge 170. 7. 1810 Census Indiana Co., Pa, (Pennsylvania Indiana County,), Blacklick Twp., pge 060- 5A. 8. Paul Miller Ruff, German Church Records, Westmoreland Co., Pa 1772-1791, (1979, 1984). 9. Paul Miller Ruff, German Church Records, Westmoreland Co., Pa 1772-1791, (1979, 1984). `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== To send a message to everyone, send it directly to: [email protected], or reply to an individual message and note "send to all recipients" or whatever your system has for this option.

Hi, Just started going through all the info Vernon sent me and am finding that mostly all info is as I had it with a few exceptions. Can anyone help us with the following: Johannes Kunkle II - have listed as married to Anna Margaretha Hegeman. Vernon has her as Schnerr. Did I miss something? On Lela Pearl Kunkle, on her death certificate, her daughter (who was always right) filled out the mother's name as Amada Altemuns. Although I have the date of birth, I do not know where. Anyone have a clue where I can send for this info? Also, mother of Florinda/ Amada is unknown - father listed as Daniel. Many thanks to you experts from a novice at best. Sincerely, Debbe ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== To send a message to everyone, send it directly to: [email protected], or reply to an individual message and note "send to all recipients" or whatever your system has for this option.

Glassmakers, Part 2. This is what the book and table of contents look like: Cover: Etienne Stenger Glassworks, Glassmaker Families and Life of Glassmakers in Bitschland Since 1550 Picture Back of Cover The picture shows the inside of the glassworks of the middle ages with glassworkers at work. In the upper right hand corner is a glassmaker with a basket on his back getting ready to travel and to sell his glassworks. Preface The following script is an exact copy of the chronik I wrote for my children and grandchildren. The publication of which is a contribution to the history of our towns, especially our village Goetzenbruck for its 250th celebration of the founding of the village on September 6, 1721. Since my youth the love for my glassmaker family steered on my interest in the origin and development of our glassworks, our founder and the collection of those documents. After searching for years, this is completed. This is how, at my old age, this chronik came to be. Georges Walter was the example and the most important son from our home. Georges was also called Chambre George, lived from 1741 to 1823 and he left his children a historic script of the origin of our glassworks family. The original script does not exist anymore. I inherited a copy of the original dated 1830 through one of his grandchildren, Pierre Berger. It is my honor on this occasion to publish this important script for our memorial year. Also the translation of the same in French. This old chronik from Chambre George and the following script should be motivation for the younger generation to imitate or to be informed about the happenings of the past. November 1971 Etienne Stenger Table of Contents 1 Preface 2 Introduction 4 Glassworks in Spessart - The Order of 1406 8 Stenger As Master Glassmaker in Spessart 10 Stenger As Master Glassmaker in Swabia - North of Stuttgart 13 Master Glassmaker Stenger in Teutoburger Wald 14 Stenger As Founder Of Glassworks in America And Crystal Cutter - Crystal Painter in Our Region 16 The Former Glassworks of Nordvogesen in 16th and 17th Century - Volksberg, Kahlenburg-Rosteig, Frohmuhl, Wackenmuhle, Hanau-Hochberg, Wingen 19 The Ludwigsthaler Glassworks at Lemberg (Palatinate) = 21 The Glasworks of the Forbacher Area With Master Glassmaker Stenger 23 The Former Glassworks of the Saarburg-Phalsburger Area, St. Quirin, Lettenbach, Donnersthal, Wolflingerthal, Soldatenthal, Courtzerode, Walderburg, Plaine-de-Walsch, Guntzwiller, Dannelburg, Dreibrunner, Eingenthal 31 Georges Walter Also Called Chambre George, His Ancestors and Descendants 37 Foundation of the Glassworks in Bitscherland, Holbach, Speckbronn, Eidenheim, Munzthal, Mattstall 43 The Glassworks Soucht 54 The Foundation of Development of The Bitscherland Glassworks in the 18th Century - The Glassworks Meisenthal 72 The Crystal Works in St. Louis 80 The Crystal Works in Lorraine At Lemberg in 1925 81 The Glassmakers of Goetzenbruck 81 The Foundation of the Glassworks 85 The Name of the Founder 88 The First Chapel 89 The Death of the Tenant Poncet, A Trial With His Descendants 92 Ancestors of the Founder of the Glassworks 99 Founding and Development 100 Topographic Map of the District of the Glassworks - 1763 102 The Behavior of the Glass Workers 103 The Foundation of the District Konigsberg - Mont Royal 105 The Foundation of the District Althorn 106 Goetzenbruck Church of Soucht - 1721 - 1804 109 The Striking Wedding of the Descendants of the Founder of Goetzenbruck 119 The Berger 122 The "Obitzen" 126 The Difficulties Between the Descendants 128 The Development Towards the End of the Eighteenth Century 130 The Family Poncet Has the Right to Buy the Hereditary Lease 132 Glassworks and the Village Goetzenbruck-Sarreinsberg Around the 1800's 135 Goetzenbruck and Its Glassworks in 1900 136 Names of the Mayors-Officers of the State-Civil of Goetzenbruck 139 Names of the Mayors-Officers of the State-Civil of Sarreinsberg-Althorn 140 Number of Residents in Goetzenbruck and Sarreinsberg-Althorn in the 19th Century 141 Copy of the Official Land Records in 1820 14- Copy of the Official Land Records in 1838 - 1850 14- Copy of the Official Land Records of Old Houses in 1838, 1850 and 1890 152 The Oldest Houses in Goetzenbruck 155 The Glassworks Goetzenbruck and Meisenthal in a Society - 1825 158 Dynamic Boom of the Goetzenbruck Factories Since 1825 163 Purchase of Woods - 1837 164 New Invention of the Watch Crystals 167 Copies From A Correspondence Book - 1848 - 1853 - Prices and Yearly Production of Watch Crystals 168 The Elimination of the Society Between Goetzenbruck and Meisenthal Starting January 1, 1825 173 Allowance to Build a New Church March 7, 1861 And Completion of the Same in 1866 173 The Cemetery Chapel in Goetzenbruck 174 Nobels and People Who Had to Pay The Highest Taxes of 1865 - 1870 175 The War of 1870 177 The Death of the Administrator of the Glassworks, Pierre Berger 177 The Time of Walter Without Berger Industrial Production in Goetzenbruck Within the 19th Century 180 Making Watch Crystals 183 Making Eye Glasses Since 1850 186 Making Sun Glasses (Coquilles) 186 Making Silver Balls 187 Working At Home 188 Glassmaker, Glassworker And Landlord in One 191 Goetzenbruck Around 1900 Until The First World War 194 Packing Watch Crystals And Office Worker in the Factory 196 Start of the 1st World War 199 Two New Personalties in Factory Management - Pinck and Schwaller 203 Goetzenbruck After the 1st World War 205 The Area Vallon-Humbert, 1921 - 1923 208 A New Hard And Worried Time - 1925 - 1939 208 A New Optical Factory In Brunnemattle - Mont-Royal, 1938 210 The Second World War - 1939 - 1945 212 An Honorary Plate for the Victims of Both World Wars 216 Both Towns - Goetzenbruck and Sarreinsberg in One County (Continued) 217 Our Glassmaker Dialect 217 The Life of the Goetzenbruckers 221 The Life as Farmers 223 The Life in the Glassworks 224 Happiness and Togetherness 225 Beginning of Societies - Music, "Bombiers", 227 Founding of the Jinglings Society 228 Stories And Fairy Tales of Goetzenbruck 231 The Song of Goetzenbruck 233 Something Happened on the Schonsee 236 Ending 237 The Sources Enclosures The Chronik of Georges Walter From 1830 In Old German Handwriting The Chronik of Georges Walter in French Old Pictures of 1892, 1900 and 1910 of Groups of People Including Names Other Old Pictures and Historic Documents (from Janet GA) ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== If you have any problems with this list please contact Janet Reinhold, [email protected]

GLASSMAKERS Part 1 My interest in the glassmakers started when I started tracing my mother's family - at which time I knew absolutely NOTHING about them. Then, little by little I found some information about where they were from. When I wrote to France, a man answered my letter and told me that my families were all very famous glassmakers. This came as a shock to me..... This man also knew someone in his genealogy group in Metz, France that was a descendant of the same families that I was and he contacted her and she had a book with all the family lines. Then, I found that there were many, many other books written about them which told of the laws governing them, their traditions and the strange world they lived in and the terrible times they lived through. I familiarized myself with all the names connected with the glassmaking trade and have found the same families connected generation after generation, both in Europe and America. They always stuck together. In fact, there was a law in Europe that glassmaking could only be taught to LEGITIMATE sons....it was a "noble" trade and they held the position of a Squire. They were given certain privileges by the Duke or ruler of the land and were exempt from taxes. Usually, they moved from place to place because they used the trees of the forest for their ovens. When the trees were gone - they moved on and found another forest. Sometimes sons from each family were sent to other areas to found new glasshouses. The making of glass was (and still is) a secret. If they divulged the secret of the glass, they could be put to death. If you are interested in the history of glassmaking - read Daphne DeMauer's book "The Glassblowers". She comes from glassmaker family. I know that Kunckle/Kunkle (or at least some branches of them) were right along with my families. I am going to attach two files that give you a little history of them. They are in ASCII format so you can read them in any wordprocessor. After you read them, let's talk again. Janet GA ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== See our web site at http://www.flash.net/~conkle/INDEX.HTM for all queries printed in the newsletter since January 1995. Be sure to make the last part all capital letters as shown.

The following will was submitted by Christina Hoffman & will be available to folks by photocopy as per Oct 97 Spindle (not out yet). Thanks, Christine! Janet In God's name, Amen I, Lawrence Konkell, inhabitant of Hamilton Township, Northampton County, State of Pennsylvania, am weak, but of sound mind, blessed be God for this day which is the fourth in the month of October in the year of our lord One thousand eighteen hundred, make and publish herein my last will and testament in the following manner. Firstly, I commend my soul to the hands of the almighty God, who gave it to me , and command that my body be buried in a Christian manner. Further, as I am a widower, and have no heirs of my body, it is my will that the son of my sister Annakina, named John Konkell, who I raised from a youth, should have my estate or plantation, to himself or to his heirs or assigns, with all the buildings which are on it, also the corn in the granary, the winter seed in the field, also hay and stabling, in addition to the estate he shall have horses, two of my nags, the wagon, plow and harrow, and everything which belongs to it. Also, the named John Konkell shall have my house clock, and the stove in my room where I now lie, with the proviso that the above named John Konkell will pay for the above plantation or stud farm where I now live, the sum of 420 pounds good and lawful money of the State of Pennsylvania, and that in instalments of 40 pounds, until the 420 pounds be paid in full, starting one year after my death, to my executors who will pay the money to my heirs. Further, it is my will that after the aforesaid is given to John Konkell, my executors shall have the rest of my moveable estate evaluated, and after a period of four weeks sold at auction. As soon as my executors have the money in hand, it shall be divided among my heirs, with the stipulation that first my debts and obligations be paid. Further, it is my will that as soon as they have money in hand, that my brother John Konkell's son Lawrence, who is my godson, be give as a present the sum of 200 pounds legal tender. Further, that my deceased sister Christina's surviving daughter Elizabeth shall have 100 pounds legal tender, that being beside any money owed to her for service that she has rendered me. My sister Annakina shall have the sum of 50 pounds legal tender as her inheritance, share, and portion of my estate, and nothing else, and should be fully content and happy with the abovesaid sum. Further, it is my will that my true friend John Williams shall have the sum of 40 pounds legal tender as a present. Further, since I still have a note in hand from Robert Pary, my executors shall give it back to him as a present to his wife, Elizabeth. And finally, it is my will that when the above has been distributed, the remainder of my estate shall be divided among my siblings and my sibling's children, starting with the oldest down to the youngest, until they all have their portion. To my brother John Konkell, 1/7th portion. To the heirs of my deceased brother Peter Konkell, 1/7th portion. To my brother George Konkell, 1/7th portion. To the heirs of my deceased brother Michael Konkell, 1/7th portion. To my sister Catherine who is married to Henry Bachman, 1/7th portion. To the heirs of her body of my deceased sister Christina, who was married to Friedrich Warner, 1/7th portion. To my brother Adam Konkell, 1/7th portion. And further, that my executors shall be my true friend David Strauss, and my dear friend John Williams and I give to them full powers to divide my estate. In evidence of this, I, Lawrence Konkell, do put my signature and seal to this, my last will and testament. (signed) Lawrentz Kunkell (signed) Conrad Wetzel John Strauss (witnesses) ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== To send a message to everyone, send it directly to: [email protected], or reply to an individual message and note "send to all recipients" or whatever your system has for this option.

I am looking for the ancestors of Elizabeth Kunkel, born June 01, 1829, died December 19, 1869, probably in or near Kunkletown, PA. She married Joseph Fehr of Kunkletown about 1850. I am happy to share whatever information I have. I can be contacted at [email protected] 1 Joseph Fehr b: February 13, 1828 in Kunkletown, PA d: April 07, 1884 +Elizabeth Kunkel b: June 01, 1829 d: December 19, 1869 .. 2 Alvesta Fehr ..... +Stephen Williamson .. 2 Lucy A. Fehr ..... +Aurthur Rank .. 2 Ella Fehr .. 2 Tilgman Franklin Fehr b: October 31, 1850 d: January 09, 1898 ..... +Elizabeth b: Abt. 1852 .. 2 Mary Jane Fehr b: November 23, 1854 d: Abt. November 30, 1865 .. 2 Emma Fehr b: April 03, 1857 d: July 01, 1934 ..... +Clinton Moser .. 2 Annie M. Fehr b: August 14, 1862 d: November 12, 1909 .. 2 Quincy Howard Fehr b: February 10, 1866 in Kunkletown, PA d: July 02, 1958 in Allentown, PA ..... +Minnie Patterson b: July 03, 1871 in Allentown, PA m: July 12, 1888 d: July 06, 1938 in Bethlehem, PA David McGuigan [email protected] ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== If you have any problems with this list please contact Janet Reinhold, [email protected]

I received some information which may interest some subscribers, and am passing it along. I have not seen the book & hope it isn't too hard to get ahold of. Janet >From: Paul Kunkel <[email protected]> >I recently found something which may interest you or >some of the other people with whom you communicate. > > I have a book, a biography of Carl Friedrich Gauss. Inside is a >photograph of a bust, believed to be carved by Friedrich Kunkler in 1810. >I know nothing more of the sculptor, but maybe some of your friends do. >Here is some information on the book: > >_Carl Friedrich Gauss: Titan of Science_ >by G. Waldo Dunnington >Exposition Press, New York 1955 ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== See our web site at http://www.flash.net/~conkle/INDEX.HTM for all queries printed in the newsletter since January 1995. Be sure to make the last part all capital letters as shown.

Karen at Rootsweb has just sent listowners some information on the archiving process and how it will change, come December 1. Be sure to email me your opinions, as you know I am very new to all of this stuff. Heck, I am still taking comments about the "Reply to list" thing....So far about 60% in favor of reply to list, 40% against.... I wish I felt more strongly one way or the other. I think I will make a message up from comments from both angles. This message is about the Archives, though, so here goes: They are planning a new "web-based" system and will be turning off the old "e-mail based" system of accessing the archives. From Karen: >1. Once the new (web-based) system is on line, we will be turning off the >old (e-mail based) system of accessing archives. Experience has shown >that it is hard on the system (uses too many CPU cycles on large lists), >and hard on the user (difficult to understand, tricky syntax) and hard >on the system administrators ... (I know that not everyone has web >access -- you might want to have a few volunteers on each list who will >do lookups for those without web access.) > >2. So, what's the new web-based system to be? Evolving, for a start. >In the initial phases, for those lists that are participating, the >most recent messages will be available via the web in a threaded >format. (This is what Marc has been working on.) The older messages >(including the old Maiser archives) will be available via a clunky >search engine (like that used for ROOTS-L on http://searches.rootsweb.com). >(I've been working on this, at least, until I got diverted by all that >stuff up there in the first paragraph.) We hope to do two additional >things: find a new search engine that will index both the threaded and >unthreaded message bases, and as time allows, convert the unthreaded >message bases to threaded. There are some open issues here that we >haven't worked through yet, so it will be awhile, but that's the target. > >3. What about passwords? These have proven much more controversial >than I ever expected. I do understand (shoot, I pushed for them) why >they are useful and solve a lot of problems. The difficulty is that >they seem to introduce at least as many problems as they solve. Some >of which hit closer to home than I like (such as whiney letters to >[email protected] asking what the password is). Anything that >requires more work from the system administration people is almost >guaranteed to be a non-starter, and passwords unfortunately fit that >criteria. Besides having to deal with people who can't remember passwords >or who type them in the wrong case, etc., there's also the problem >that to change a password will require manual intervention (we haven't >developed the software yet so the listowner could do so automatically), >and a password that is stable and never changed isn't much security. >If your archived messages need to be secure, a simple password won't >be enough to secure them. If your archive messages don't need to be >secure, then there's no need for a password. Bottomline: passwords >make more work, but add little additional security. So, no passwords, at >least not for now, probably never. > >4. Can you edit the archives? No, at least, not now. The tools >to let you do so aren't available, and the time for someone (me) to >do it for you is in too short of supply. Except for cases of >egregious copyright violation, death threats, etc, I won't be >available to edit your archives for you. I know this means there >will be some cruft, subscribe/unsubscribe commands, reposted digests, >spam, etc. For most lists, even with the cruft, the signal to noise >ratio will still be quite high. > >5. Does your list have to participate? No. ... Note >that, if your list doesn't participate in the web-based archives, >there will be no access to your archives unless you make alternative >arrangements (for instance, through your ISP) to provide such. If you >decide you do want to set up your own message archive elsewhere, we >will zip up your old archives here (including the old messages from >Maiser, if any) and put them somewhere so you can FTP them. Not all >lists want archives (hi, Wally!): if that describes your list, just >opt out of the web-based archives, and voila!, you're set. > >6. What if you have a single [person]... who doesn't want his/her messages >included? You have some options. a) You can simply not participate. >b) You can tell him/her tough, and go ahead and participate. c) You can >ask that we not include your material from before the cutover (see >below), and tell [him or her]... that anything he/she posts after the >cutover will be included... > >Target date for the cutover: 1 December 1997. That should provide time >for you to touch base with your listmembers (if you so desire), and >for us to further shakedown the scripts that will be used to make >all this happen. Marc's beta-test will probably be back online before >then. From me: PLEASE let me know how you feel about the archives being so open to everyone without a password and all....and if you still want the archives. I don't mind the archives at all, but if you feel strongly about this, let me know. For those of you who have had trouble accessing the archives lately, I think it has been off-line (ref. to Marc above), so give it another chance. I have all of the list in Digest Form from Day One, and can send these to anyone who requests them from me. Not indexed or anything. Just a simple forwarding of them. It would help if you could give me the dates you're missing. I'm sorry this list has been so quiet lately, on my end. Have been busy working on the October (!) issue of Spindle. Hope to get it out this month! Also for those of you who have contacted me on specific lines, I am behind on correspondence. Feel free to post to the list, otherwise I will get to them some time, I promise! If anyone has sent Jim Kunkle of Denver the lists so far, please let me know which ones, as I plan to send them to him this month. I know he will be frustrated not having the "snail mail" addresses attached to them, but am hoping I have them in my database somewhere & can put them on for him. Janet ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== To send a message to everyone, send it directly to: [email protected], or reply to an individual message and note "send to all recipients" or whatever your system has for this option.

I am trying to trace my Gunkel family back to Germany to learn the name of my great grandfather. My father's family arrived in Baltimore on two ships. His grandmother, Katherine (Huffman)Gunkel at age 44 arrived at Baltimore on April 12 1889 on a ship called the "Weser" with three children, Katherine age 14, Amelia age 13 and Reinhardt age 4 (Reinhardt was my grandfather). Katherine may have been pregnant on the boat as there was another son, Charles whose birthdate is later given as 1890. Two other brothers, John and Henry, arrived in Baltimore on a boat called the "Dresden" on October 13,1893 to join the family. The ship's record give place of origin as "Prussia". The 1900 census in Baltimore Shows Katherine Gunkel Born in 1844 and living at 2014 Goodmans Alley in Baltimore at that time with the following children also there Katherine Born April 1874 Amelia Born 1875 John Born March 1879 Henry Born May 1881 Reinhardt Born Feb.. 1885 Charles Born May 1890 Everyone's place of birth is listed as Germany. Reinhardt Married Elizabeth Bernhard in Baltimore in 1908 and had three children Mildred (b.1909), Katherine (b. 1911),and Louis (b.1913)(My father). Reinhardt was killed in an accident in 1922 when my father was nine and my grandmother remarried a few years later and my father lost track of the Gunkel side of the family. I am trying to find where in Germany the family emigrated from and the name of Reinhardt's father. There was some rumor that Katherine's husband was in the Prussian army as she may have received a small pension as a result but that is unconfirmed. Lou Gunkel ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== If you have any problems with this list please contact Janet Reinhold, [email protected]

>Has anyone heard of this Konkleville in Idaho? According to Mapquest (URL = www.mapquest.com), there is a place called "German Settlement" about 10 miles WSW of Orofino. Could that be it? Bob ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== If you have any problems with this list please contact Janet Reinhold, [email protected]

Although I have an extensive list of genealogy info provided by John Decker and James Kunkle, I have been unable to locate any information about my ancestors's lives. If anyone could help me out with the following persons, I would be glad to share what I do have. Harry Amos Helman and wife, Lela Pearl Kunkle, b. 1875 in Blacklick, Pa, d. 1954 in Blairsville, Pa. Daughter of Emanuel Kunkle and Amada Altemuns. Regards, Debbe ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== To send a message to everyone, send it directly to: [email protected], or reply to an individual message and note "send to all recipients" or whatever your system has for this option.

Howdy, My mother called me real excited a few months back regarding the on going research for Konkle's. She was told by a salesclerk in Portland, Oregon that there was a community near Orofino, ID. I have tried to find something out about this area, but have found nothing on the Internet and I must confess that is as far as I went. I know there is a Kunkleville in PA. Has anyone heard of this Konkleville in Idaho? could it possibly be a small township? This was a salesclerk who came from that area of Idaho and commented on the Konkle name on my mothers check, and asked her if she was related to anyone in Konkleville, ID. of course who knows since we can't even find any information on the area. Happy hunting? Tracy Konkle Miller [email protected] ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== To send a message to everyone, send it directly to: [email protected], or reply to an individual message and note "send to all recipients" or whatever your system has for this option. See our web site at http://www.flash.net/~conkle/INDEX.HTM

-- [ From: Janet Reinhold * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- The following was sent to me by Robert L Middlestead, [email protected] org, and might prove helpful to members: > Date: Wednesday, 05-Nov-97 09:47 AM > The following is the address to write for information on German > immigrants coming from Hamburg, Germany: > Historic Emigration Office, c/o Tourist Information AM Hafen, Bei den > St.Pauli Landungsbrucken 3, D-20359 Hamburg, Germany. > When you request genealogical information they will include tourist > brochures and a note stating how much it will cost. When I requested it > the charge was $30 for each year researched so needless to say, the > closer you can come to the date your ancestors immigrated the better. > The information I received was a copy of the ship's manifest showing > their names, the city in Germany where they lived, the ship's captain's > name, the ship's name, and port of entry in the US. I was very pleased > with the information. ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== To send a message to everyone, send it directly to: [email protected], or reply to an individual message and note "send to all recipients" or whatever your system has for this option.

Seeking information on my great-grandfather's missing sister, Amanda Jane "Jennie" Kunkel, b. c1868, d/o John Kunkel and Catherine Elizabeth Shriver/Schriver/Schreiber. John and his family migrated from York Co. PA to Fountain Co. IN after the Civil War. Jennie m. 18 Sep 1887 in Fountain Co. Andrew J. Claypool. She was present to sign papers immediately after the death of her father in 1889, but was not a buyer at the estate auction two months later. We think she and Andrew were probably living elsewhere and had returned to their home by then. Even the fact of her existence was not passed down in the families of her nephews and nieces. What happened to Jennie Kunkel Claypool? -----Marilyn Bridge Brown -----627 Polk 412 -----Mena, Arkansas 71953 -----e-mail: [email protected] -----researching: BRIDGE, HARRINGTON, ETTER, FLETCHER, KUNKEL -----editor/publisher: Fletcher Family Research Bulletin -----editor: Polk County [Arkansas] Pioneers ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== To send a message to everyone, send it directly to: [email protected], or reply to an individual message and note "send to all recipients" or whatever your system has for this option.

I am seeking information regarding parents of Hollis KUNKEL (aka KUNKLE, KONKLE, KONKEL) who was residing in Michigan in 1860 with his wife and 2 years old daughter. Would appreciate any assistance in tying this family to a specific group of Kunkle's, if possible. Hollis was apparently the brother of Louisa KUNKLE who married a John LOTT in Michigan. Best regards Clarence Lott <[email protected] (zero not an O); or [email protected] ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== To send a message to everyone, send it directly to: [email protected], or reply to an individual message and note "send to all recipients" or whatever your system has for this option. See our web site at http://www.flash.net/~conkle/INDEX.HTM

Hi! As you may remember, I said recently that our messages will be archived & available on the Rootsweb site. Here are the instructions of what to do, if you want to retrieve them. Please let me know if you have problems. Also, if you have determined which dates or digests that you are missing, I may be able to find them in my own messages saved, and may be able to just forward them to you. INSTRUCTIONS: Take a look at the webpage: http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/ and follow the links down to the archives. To access our mailing list web archive use the following information: username: KUNKEL-L password: 80nod It is just in its beginning stages right now, so "be patient." Janet ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== If you have any problems with this list please contact Janet Reinhold, [email protected] To unsubscribe, send a message to [email protected], with the word "unsubscribe" in the message and nothing else.

Would like information on a Mary Kunkle b 1842 and d 1898. Married 9 Jul 1861 in Wabash Co, IN to Levi Puterbaugh b 1836 Darke Co, IN and d 31 Jan 1904 CA. Need names of Mary's parents and descendants of Mary and Levi. ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== If you have any problems with this list please contact Janet Reinhold, [email protected]